The Book of Black Cat

[Scapemage]

Maybe for the Prob. Manipulator concern, we could add to Black Cat's power, the word "immediately". "You may immediately subtract...", or "You may subtract 2 from the roll before any other modifiers".

[Griffin]

Good idea. That + this = good for me.

BLACK CAT CROSSED YOUR PATH
When an opponent's figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Black Cat rolls the 20 sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll. When an opponent's figure attacks Black Cat and at least one skull is rolled, you may immediately roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, the opposing player must re-roll all dice that show skulls once for this attack.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Good idea. That + this = good for me.

BLACK CAT CROSSED YOUR PATH
When an opponent's figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Black Cat rolls the 20 sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll. When an opponent's figure attacks Black Cat and at least one skull is rolled, you may immediately roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, the opposing player must re-roll all dice that show skulls once for this attack.

[Griffin]

Hey, what if there was a "must" in there next to the "immediately"? That would be kinda cool as an auto curse, while also helping with initiative over the Probability Glyph that has a "may".

BLACK CAT CROSSED YOUR PATH
When an opponent's figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Black Cat rolls the 20 sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll. When an opponent's figure attacks Black Cat and at least one skull is rolled, you must immediately roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, the opposing player must re-roll all dice that show skulls once for this attack.

[MegaSilver]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Hey, what if there was a "must" in there next to the "immediately"? That would be kinda cool as an auto curse, while also helping with initiative over the Probability Glyph that has a "may".

BLACK CAT CROSSED YOUR PATH
When an opponent's figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Black Cat rolls the 20 sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll. When an opponent's figure attacks Black Cat and at least one skull is rolled, you must immediately roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, the opposing player must re-roll all dice that show skulls once per attack.

I changed the second red wording since it sounds better, IMO.

[Tornado]

I sense a consensus nearby.

[Griffin]

The problem with that is, it could still trigger a misuse against probability glyphs because "per attack" could mean "per attack roll" pretty easily to some people. I think the way I have it translates the intention a bit better. Maybe there is a better way, but I don't think that "per attack" is it.

[Porkins]

Well, I'm not really seeing the difference...

Are you thinking the word "immediately" makes Black Cat roll the d20 before the attacker can use the Probability Manipulator? If so, I'm fine with that and let's move forward!

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Porkins

Are you thinking the word "immediately" makes Black Cat roll the d20 before the attacker can use the Probability Manipulator?

Yes

[Porkins]

OK, it's good with me.

I propose we move to Initial Playtest.

Black Cat
Felicia Hardy

Human
Thief
Seductive
Medium 4

Life 4
Move 6
Range 1
Attack 4
Defense 4

Points 150

CAT BURGLAR
Black Cat can move through all figures and never takes leaving engagement attacks. After moving and before attacking, if there is not a glyph on this card, you may choose a figure that Black Cat moved through this turn with an Equipment Glyph on its card and place that glyph on this card.

EXPERT CLIMBING
When counting spaces for Black Cat's movement, elevation changes up to 2 levels count as one space. You may ignore Black Cat's height of 4 when climbing. Black Cat never takes falling damage or major falling damage.

CROSSED YOUR PATH
When an opponent's figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Black Cat rolls the 20 sided die, you may subtract 2 from the roll. When an opponent's figure attacks Black Cat and at least one skull is rolled, you must immediately roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, the opposing player must re-roll all dice that show skulls once for this attack.

[Griffin]

No proposal necessary for that. The Initial Test is part of the Design Phase.

[Porkins]

Okay, uh...hey, how about we get an initial playtest on Black Cat?