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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:04 AM
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The Book of Alfred Pennyworth

The Book of Alfred Pennyworth

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Batman: Alpha set.
Its model number and name are #014 / Alfred.

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Origin set.
Its model number and name are #214 / Alfred Pennyworth.
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Character Bio - Alfred was a retired intelligence agent who followed the deathbed wish of his dying father, Jarvis, to carry on the tradition of serving the Wayne Family. To that end, Alfred introduced himself to Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson at Wayne Manor and insisted on becoming their butler. Although the pair did not want a butler, especially since they did not want to jeopardize their secret identities with a servant in the house, they did not have the heart to reject Alfred. That night, Alfred awoke to moaning and followed the sound to the secret door to the staircase leading to the Batcave and met his would be employers in their superhero identities (Wayne had been injured while out in the field). As it turned out, the wounds were actually insignificant, but Alfred's care convinced the residents that their butler could be trusted. Since then, Alfred included the support staff duties of the Dynamic Duo on top of his regular tasks.
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  • Alfred may heal a wounded Human Unique Hero adjacent to him with his Field Medic special power. Current Unique Human Heroes include: Captain America, Doctor Doom, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Spider-Man.
  • Alfred may move a Vigilante or Sidekick figure with his Remote Field Extraction special power. Official Marvel Vigilantes include: Venom
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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:05 AM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

History: Things not resolved in red

-Started thread
-GreyOwl wants all shotguns to work with the same mechanic (in terms of LOS)
-Batman wonder if Field Medic and Field Extraction shouldn't have slightly more specific titles, like Vigilante Field Medic and Vigilante Field Extraction due to the class specific additions. - Any thoughts?
-Griffin has a problem seeing Alfred's hidden Shotgun; thinks perhaps it should be removed - no-one else minds the sculpt not matching the ability so it's not changing, plus whitestuff posts some awesome Alfred action
-Range of 7 needs changing to 1
-Spidey suggests a double-barrel shotgun for a double attack; not met with much interest from others
-Hahma, along with everyone else, is shooting for a low cost hero, but Griffin wishes he could shoot an automatic shotgun...
-Tweaked the wordage of the medic ability
-Initial playtesting green lighted
-Griff suggested a quick rewording as to when the Medic ability happens.
-Initial playtesting to occur - finished.
-whitestuff was concerned after the one-on-one hero tests as the only figure Alfred was able to beat was Onatashi
-Others are not concerned as they believe that Alfred will see little action in a game. He is a support figure.
-Dropped the range restriction in Field Extraction
-Griff catches a missing qualifier for Field Extraction. You can now only extract figures you control.
-whitestuff's growing concerns lead to a failed test.
-Alfred has his healing ability changed so that it is more automated. He also is slashed in price.
-Bats comes over all English guy, tightening up wordage.
-Some concern over who would activate first if Ana was drafted into the same team as Alfred. Rolling a D20 was determined to be how to deal with such a situation.
-ERB response was that the theme of the Field Extraction was missing so the ability has been renamed Remote Field Extraction.
-Into playtesting
-playtesting finished...
-some concern over the low cost of 40 points
-extra testing by Hahma proves very little (other than he beats himself well )
-cost bumped to 60
-finalized and cards finished
-done and dusted


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Old May 12th, 2010, 08:51 AM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

I think whatever we decide for the Shotgun on Punisher should be consistent with what we do here (as far as the LOS requirement and affecting himself).


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Old May 12th, 2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

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I think whatever we decide for the Shotgun on Punisher should be consistent with what we do here (as far as the LOS requirement and affecting himself).
I think that the Punisher is using an auto-shotgun so that can account for the differences in the attacks.


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Old May 12th, 2010, 11:01 AM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

But a shotgun either affects the shooter or not, regardless of whether it's automatic. And it either shoots around corners or not.


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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

I think it should affect both of them. Part of the fun, in gameplay, of the shotgun is having to decide whether or not to hit adjacent foes with it knowing you could take out yourself.
I've got to ask, by the way, what accounts for his normal range of 7? That seems like a bit much for a Butler ...
I wonder if Field Medic and Field Extraction shouldn't have slightly more specific titles, like Vigilante Field Medic and Vigilante Field Extraction due to the class specific additions.
Really liking everything here, though.


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Old May 12th, 2010, 12:38 PM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

I kinda have a problem visualizing a shot gun hidden under those coat tails.... I just don't think a Shotgun belongs on this card.


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Old May 12th, 2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

Doesn't bother me - from Wiki - Alfred is quite a brilliant man. He primarily keeps up day-to-day operations of Batman’s home of Wayne Manor and maintains much of the equipment of the Batcave beneath it. A former actor, he can use his acting and disguise skills to help Batman in the field when necessary, and is even capable of impersonating Bruce Wayne on the telephone convincingly. He has also provided first aid up to and including suturing wounds and removing bullets, as well as occasional tactical support. With time, he has increased his surgical skills, and he's now able to perform arthroscopy and other advanced medical procedures, thus limiting, if not eliminating, the need for hospital medical treatment even in front of grievous injuries.

While not as skilled at hand to hand combat as Bruce Wayne, Alfred is still nearly as resourceful. During a time at which he was kidnapped, he readily escapes and overcomes his captors without disturbing the cut of his suit. It was later mentioned that he had been kidnapped unsuccessfully 27 times (it should be noted, however, that these events take place in the Gotham Adventures comics, based on the animated adventures of Batman, and not within the standard DCU continuity).[12] In the recent Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul story, Ubu, Ra's massively muscled bodyguard and henchman, attempts to use Alfred as a hostage, only to be disabled by a well timed sucker punch from Alfred.

Presumably due to his lack of superpowers, the advanced combat training Bruce's other associates have, and Alfred's age, Alfred is the only member of the "Batman Family" that Bruce does not mind using a firearm, in his case favoring a shotgun.

I think if Alfred is coming to a superhero brawl, he's bringing his sidearm.


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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

That doesn't explain where he is hiding that Shotgun under his tux though. I think this is a case of not having the right sculpt to reflect the desired theme.


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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

I'm willing to use my imagination in cases like this. I don't think the sculpt always needs to 100% represent everything on the card, especially when there are limited options with sculpts.
I mean, with this sculpt, the extraction power doesn't really make sense either - he should be riding in a Batmobile or Batcopter for that one.
If anything, based on this sculpt, he should have a "dressing the Batman" power, but I don't think we want that.
So, yeah, still in favor of the Shotgun.


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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

I don't mind the sculpt not matching the powers either. It's not like Spider-Man's sculpt has his webline or anything...


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Re: Alfred Pennyworth - Design Thread

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I don't mind the sculpt not matching the powers either. It's not like Spider-Man's sculpt has his webline or anything...
But Spiderman has hands, and you know those hands shoot webbing. Bad comparison.


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