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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:42 PM
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Hollywood is that stupid - Buffy without Joss

Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!


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Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!
You think THIS is the watershed moment marking the stupidity of Hollywood excutives? You give them more credit than I would.


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Re: Hollywood is that stupid - Buffy without Joss

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Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!
Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


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Re: Hollywood is that stupid - Buffy without Joss

I've heard about this (on Wikipedia). Geez... How stupid are they? Well maybe movies aren't Mr. Whedon's strong suit. Remember that one he made with Sigourney Weaver?

Then again...



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Old June 9th, 2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: Hollywood is that stupid - Buffy without Joss

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Joss Whedon was unhappy with the final product. When asked in 2005 how the film differed from the script he had written, Whedon responded:

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable.
This is important in relation to that


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Joss Whedon was unhappy with the final product. When asked in 2005 how the film differed from the script he had written, Whedon responded:

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable.
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Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!
Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


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Actually he only wrote the screenplay, which was then heavily altered by the very people who want to remake it. They did such a bad job, he wanted to do the show so it could be done properly.


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Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!
Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


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Actually he only wrote the screenplay, which was then heavily altered by the very people who want to remake it. They did such a bad job, he wanted to do the show so it could be done properly.
Fair enought. After ready the above I suppose it was just a case of be lost in translation you can't blame Joss for poor direction, acting, set design, etc.

He just gets the blame for starting the whole mess of a movie.

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Re: Hollywood is that stupid - Buffy without Joss

Lol yeah. In this case, I've never read the original screenplay, though it was supposed to be a fair bit more serious than the final product was.

Course, sometimes the final product is better than the initial screenplay - See the first draft of Star Wars for a great example of that.


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If they're going to make another movie in that universe, they should adapt Fray for the big screen. READ THAt BOOK! NOW!


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