Garada's Customs - 11/30 - Rocket Red White & Blue Mk II

[NecroBlade]

No problem, I really enjoy customs and you've got some good ones!

[Garada]

Originally Posted by NecroBlade

No problem, I really enjoy customs and you've got some good ones!

Wow, thanks!

Here is a Sasquatch, done in collaboration with Matt Helm:



And a Unique Hero version of the same figure, Bigfoot:



Also, Nessie is fixed per Necro's suggestion.

- Garada

[Matt Helm]

Excellent job as always. I wasn't thinking when I created the common hero with life of 5. I was planning on only ordering one piece so never thought about the problem with more than one.

I actually love the idea you proposed on the "commission" thread to print out both and have them on the flip side of each other. I think I'll use Bigfoot more often but the option is a great idea.

With Bigfoot increased to a Defense of 3 and generic Sasquatch reduced to life of 1, we may need to alter the cost on both. I would think that 1 Bigfoot should cost at least as much as 2 ordinary Sasquatch. Hopefully some veterans can help us here.

[Matt Helm]

Hope you don't mind that I tried to get you some recognition over in the classic Heroscape custom forum. In my opinion, these Hellboy cards are good as crossovers.

[Matt Helm]

Back to Hecate if I can. I think I mentioned this before, but I'm not sure. Well anyway, I was viewing Grey Owl's complete list of Species and Class that incorporates official scape and his creations. Now I know we don't have to comply exactly with his customs, but consistency in this custom world always works better.

In Grey Owl's system, both Deity and Queen are Classes, neither is a Species. This makes sense since Thor is an Asgardian, Hercules is an Olympian, etc. A Deity is more of a class than a species for this game.

So here's what I was thinking. Leave "Queen" as the class because it works great with the Brine Witches (who should be able to bond with any Queen and not any Deity") and consider changing Hecate's species to "Titan". I know it's a new class but according to my research, the most common Greek mythology legends have Hecate being the only Titan after the great war, that Zeus allowed to remain roaming free after the Olympian Gods took over. Therefore, I think "Titan" would be her true species. This would give her the same stauts as the original "Goddess" without conflicting Class and Species in the rest of the custom community.

What do you think?

On Nessie, we might want to consider making her size/height: HUGE 8. I got the piece today and she is comparable to Krug and Brunak (I gues an extended neck can get her that extra height but it might seem better at .

On Bigfoot, I wrote the following on my thread...
... do you think we need to change "bush" on Sasquatch/Bigfoot to "brush" to fit with the official terrain released thus far? I kind of wanted to incorporate all possible plant life as a hiding place and point of sneak attack for our mysterious monster and therefore went with the general term "bush". It leaves it open for those custom terrain creators who make their own bushes. But now I'm afraid that it might leave debate over "brush". Am I over thinking this? Does it need to be "tree, bush, or brush"?

[Garada]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

Hope you don't mind that I tried to get you some recognition over in the classic Heroscape custom forum. In my opinion, these Hellboy cards are good as crossovers.

Of course I don't mind... the more people that look and hopefully give feedback the better! I do try to keep the Hellboy customs having a nice level of compatibility with Classic Scape anyway.

[Garada]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

Back to Hecate if I can. I think I mentioned this before, but I'm not sure. Well anyway, I was viewing Grey Owl's complete list of Species and Class that incorporates official scape and his creations. Now I know we don't have to comply exactly with his customs, but consistency in this custom world always works better.

In Grey Owl's system, both Deity and Queen are Classes, neither is a Species. This makes sense since Thor is an Asgardian, Hercules is an Olympian, etc. A Deity is more of a class than a species for this game.

So here's what I was thinking. Leave "Queen" as the class because it works great with the Brine Witches (who should be able to bond with any Queen and not any Deity") and consider changing Hecate's species to "Titan". I know it's a new class but according to my research, the most common Greek mythology legends have Hecate being the only Titan after the great war, that Zeus allowed to remain roaming free after the Olympian Gods took over. Therefore, I think "Titan" would be her true species. This would give her the same stauts as the original "Goddess" without conflicting Class and Species in the rest of the custom community.

What do you think?

On Nessie, we might want to consider making her size/height: HUGE 8. I got the piece today and she is comparable to Krug and Brunak (I gues an extended neck can get her that extra height but it might seem better at .

On Bigfoot, I wrote the following on my thread...
... do you think we need to change "bush" on Sasquatch/Bigfoot to "brush" to fit with the official terrain released thus far? I kind of wanted to incorporate all possible plant life as a hiding place and point of sneak attack for our mysterious monster and therefore went with the general term "bush". It leaves it open for those custom terrain creators who make their own bushes. But now I'm afraid that it might leave debate over "brush". Am I over thinking this? Does it need to be "tree, bush, or brush"?

On Hecate, I'm OK with leaving her as a Deity if you are... all of my DC Universe RPG books [from the old West End Games series] list certain characters [such as Eclipso] as 'Deity' for their race, since they are one-of-a-kind and god-like. I don't really mind changing it though, I'm just not sure I'm sold on Titan... that sounds like more of an occupation to me! Let me sleep on it.

For Nessie, I also just got the mini in the mail yesterday, how funny. She is a bit smaller than I expected, but with neck extended she would be around 8 or 9. I'll change her to 8 though, it does sound a bit better.

Bigfoot - changed to brush. Anytime I can get closer to official scape wording, I do so! Anyway, if someone makes a custom bush, it would basically be considered brush anyway, right? Also, change Bigfoot's cost to 90 to be double the common Sasquatches 45, as per your suggestion.

Check out the up-to-date Index of my HELLBOY for HEROSCAPE custom Army Cards to see it all!

[Garada]

Matt Helm wrote this icky Demon for Hellboy:



Have fun fighting that!

- Garada

[Matt Helm]

I'm good with all three. Hecate as a Diety, Nessie at a size of 8, Bigfoot with "brush" wording and cost.

Excellent edits. Check out my suggestions on Rel-Warc-Thorn in my thread. Good choice of color combo by the way.

[Matt Helm]

By the way. I forgot to order some giant centipedes. I guess I'll need three to maximize fun. Are you going to change the logo from DC to Hellboy? What about the Mummy... also a Hellboy?

Not a big deal really, just wondering.

[Garada]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

...I was viewing Grey Owl's complete list of Species and Class that incorporates official scape and his creations. ...

I'd like to see GreyOwl's list, do you have the link handy?

It's funny too, because I basically compiled the same sort of thing for the NARRATOR'S GUIDE portion of the 'DC Universe Roleplaying Game' I'm doing. I went through all of my official Heroscape cards and then went through all of my DC Universe books [from both West End Games and the even older Mayfair RPG]. I have also included several entries that are 'pop-culture staples', since I allow a wide range of characters from all genres in the DCU RPG. Also on the list are inclusions from the Hellboy Sourcebook and various people's customs, especially Sherman Davies and GreyOwl. I'm not nearly finished with it yet, and eventually the entire NARRATOR'S GUIDE will be up for all to see in PDF format [along with the PLAYER'S GUIDE, which contains all the rules of the game]. Please help me fill in any glaring omissions. Also, I included notes on 'Mechanical Beings' and 'Magic Users', since the rules of the RPG require a possibly wide array of differently named species or occupations that operate basically the same way in game terms to fall under the same rules. Wow, that sounds complicated.

The raw form of my list of SPECIES / OCCUPATION / PERSONALITY:

SPECIES / RACE

Amazon
Android*
Angel
Arachnid
Atlantean
Bolovaxian
Cyborg*
Clone
Deity
Demon
Doggin
Dragon
Droid*
Elf
Eternal
Fiantooth
Fish-Man
Giant
Gorilla
Gryphillin
Human
Imp
Insect
Korllian
Korugaran
Kryptonian
Kyrie
Lycanthrope {includes any 'were' species, such as werewolves, werecats and werebears.]
Martian {come in Green or White varieties]
Marro
Menace
Mutant
Nagrub
New God
Ogre
Orc
Plesiosaur
Primadon
Robot*
Sasquatch
Soulborg*
Symbiote
Thanagarian
Troll
Trolticor
Undead {Vampires, Zombies, Rechets, Shades]
Wolf
Wulsinu
Zenn-Lavian

*A note about Mechanical Beings - several species fall under the category 'Mechanical Being'. These include [but are not limited to]: Android, Cyborg, Droid, Robot, Soulborg.


OCCUPATION

Adventurer
Agent
Alchemist
Archer
Archmage #
Ashigaru
Assassin
Beast
Champion
Collector
Conqueror
Creature
Crime Fighter
Criminal
Daimyo
Darklord
Deathreaver
Deathwalker
Despot
Devourer
Drone
Duchess
Elemental
Emperor
Escape Artist
Exorsist
Faerie
Gladiator
God
Guard
Guardian
Herald
High Priest
Hive +
Hivelord
Hunter
Invader
Investigator
King
Knight
Lady
Lawman
Lord
Mage #
Major
Magician #
Manhunter
Manipulator
Mastermind
Menace
Minion
Monk
Monster
Mount
Mystic #
Ninja
Nuisance
Pharaoh
Predator
Protector
Queen
Reporter
Ruler
Samurai
Savage
Savior
Scout
Sniper
Soldier
Sorcerer #
Spirit
Stinger
Super Hero
Vigilante
Wanderer
Warden
Warlock #
Warlord
Warrior
Warwitch #
Witch #
Wizard #

# A note about Magic Users: A Magic User is any character whose occupation is one of the following: Archmage, Mage, Magician, Mystic, Sorcerer, Warlock, Warwitch, Witch or Wizard.

PERSONALITY

Angry
Arrogant
Cocky
Cunning
Determined
Disciplined
Egomaniacal
Emotional
Fearless
Ferocious
Innocent
Insane
Loyal
Menacing
Merciful
Merciless
Misguided
Morose
Nihilist
Obsessed
Passionate
Precise
Protective
Rebellious
Reclusive
Relentless
Reluctant
Resolute
Ruthless
Selfish
Terrifying
Tormenting
Tricky
Valiant
Vengeful
Wild

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- Garada

[Garada]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

By the way. I forgot to order some giant centipedes. I guess I'll need three to maximize fun. Are you going to change the logo from DC to Hellboy? What about the Mummy... also a Hellboy?

Not a big deal really, just wondering.

I was thinking about eventually adding all of the more generic 'monster'-type customs I did for DC into Hellboy [again, a double sided card is always cool], but they're pretty low on the list of priorities. I mean, I'd rather spend my time making 'All-New' customs first! But yeah, I'm sure I'll eventually make 'em Hellboy.

Speaking of the Mummies, I just got a Tomb Mummy from HorrorClix:

He's going to be an Undead Unique Hero that is a Pharaoh [so the Mummy common hero can bond with him]. Any suggestions on how to make him cool? I don't really have any ideas for him yet! I'll probably end up putting him on a Hellboy card, which will prompt my OCD to convert the common Mummies over pretty soon afterwards!

By the way, the reason so many of my 'generic' customs are stamped DC is because I use them when we play the DCU RPG. Nosferatu is planned to be a major villain for the group of heroes [all members of the Justice League San Diego] at some point; in another adventure, the heroes will time-travel to WWII-era Egypt where they will face Mummies [and luckily have the help of the WWII-era Union Jack]. The stamp doesn't really matter anyway... when we play the RPG, I'll surely use many of the Hellboy customs [and won't bother to 're-brand' them] along with Classic and Marvel cards. I guess I just stamp them DC when I create them for use with that version of my Heroscape obsession!