Undead in Valhalla

[Alastair MacDirk]

I keep seeing people wanting undead units and Zombies and the like to be future heroscape figures. This makes little sense if you know a bit about Norse mythology and what Valhalla represents......

Valhalla, Hall of the Slain, in Norse mythology is the hall presided over by Odin. This vast hall has five hundred and forty doors. The rafters are spears, the hall is roofed with shields and breast-plates litter the benches. A wolf guards the western door and an eagle hovers over it. It is here that the Valkyries, Odin's messengers and spirits of war, bring half of the heroes that died on the battle fields (the rest go to Freya's hall Folkvang). These heroes, the Einherjar, are prepared in Valhalla for the oncoming battle of Ragnarok. When the battle commences, eight hundred warriors will march shoulder to shoulder out of each door.

So, the heroes in heroscape are dead heroes of different times and places brought together for Ultimate Battle as the game designers wanted. This explains why you have Romans fighting robots. How can there be undead in Valhalla when everyone is already dead?

[quixotequest]

Use your imagination!

Here's one (and not very original idea): how about the undead are cowardly soldiers cursed to torment and misery due to their lack of allegiance in their real life. They must regain their honor, and a more noble afterlife existence, through loyal battles fought for their general.

[shakey_snake]

Marros are as close to undead as I think we'll get.

[justjohn]

Sudema is undead. Maybe she is an exception?

[Karkadinn]

Oi, not this again. Already been through this with Reaper. u_u Valhalla in Heroscape is not a LITERAL afterlife, just a metaphorical one. Yes, this is different from the original mythology. Deal with it. We already have one official undead unit in the case of Sudema, so that's that.

[Fallen Templar]

Originally Posted by Karkadinn

Oi, not this again. Already been through this with Reaper. u_u Valhalla in Heroscape is not a LITERAL afterlife, just a metaphorical one. Yes, this is different from the original mythology. Deal with it. We already have one official undead unit in the case of Sudema, so that's that.

ditto

[dra(gon)]

most of the heros are not"undead" they came to Valhalla before they die.
the differens from the orginal are very big.

sudema is a verry strage undead she looks like a mummy, and got "stare stone" if it is here eyes, medusa head, or one artefact. only the story make her un dead . and that lotr story about Khosumet the Darklord and Marhana, a mighty female Elf Banisher and mosbane.

so it seems thre is a middelerath realm in hs. but undead? ist seems agic that she lives. uta undead common ary could be cool warrios that cannont die but then the player had use two of (one) roundmarker to relive them.
and heal could destroy them.

[Jason]

Undead can still "die". Vampires can be killed (stakes, sunlight, etc), liches can be killed, zombies can be killed (often with fire or cutting off head), etc. Undead have been destroyed/killed commonly in movies, myths, etc

[dra(gon)]

but for game like hs undead sould have some ud (undeath) features.
if dw9000 vs a lich is the same as dw9000 vs a normal soldier.

and undead can not mark as undead with more defense.

[Jandars_Hope]

Could it not be possible that Valhalla is a planet that was just named after the Norse, Valhalla? Doesn't mean that it is THE Valhalla, just a planets' name inspired by it!

[dra(gon)]

could be but that wellsprings( and the collection of other world heros)
it remebers me on some old star trek episods.
kirk vs gorn, other the gladiator planet wehere.

but so seems that Valhalla had to technologie(some middeage thing)
and the poor mission fight foe wellsprings and kill all the others then is the power my. ist verry strange we know we got this power firt a figure is on it.

and that is not like a roleplaying game . the the +2 on defense is going with you after you win a battel.

i wish there comes some undead more a grave yard expansion.

[Revdyer]

They could do a Lazarus figure that comes back into the game three moves after he dies.

(this is NOT a serious suggestion, and I'm not even going to mention the possibility of a Moses or Jesus figure)