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Re: Decision 2016
I am skeptical that Trump's legacy will be as a "protectionist." Time will tell. For better or for worse, I think he will be sufficiently nimble, philosophically, that such labels will not easily stick.
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#686
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Re: Decision 2016
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Jill Stein's recount is kind of a joke anyway, she keeps raising the amount of funding she needs and any leftover will go to "election integrity". 10 Years of Gencon/Scapecon Battle Reports - Comic Battle Reports - Probability Calculator App - Reverse the Whip Army Archetypes "It's all about the game." - Sgt. Ernie Calhoun |
#687
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Well, this is an interesting development. Why would Michigan take legal action to stop a recount that it isn't paying for? I read this article & immediately remembered Nate Silver's response to Trump's Twit-storm (yes, I wrote that) alleging "millions" of fraudulent votes for Clinton.
It turns out that Silver's written a piece about it, which bears a read. He concludes: Quote:
Whatever Jill Stein's motives, and whatever the wild dreams of the contributors, the money is there, the accusations of fraud are there (courtesy of the P/E), and one (so far) of the affected states is offering a really lame excuse about why it doesn't want to, and is fighting it. There's probably nothing there, but let it happen. |
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Looking at it from a practical/legal standpoint, I can see why Michigan wouldn't want to take the time to do a recount for Stein. She came in last in every state I think, so there's no real reason for her to want a recount. If Clinton was the one asking for a recount, that should be accommodated. A recount won't change the outcome for Stein, so there's no reason to recount for her, IMO.
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I also heard that the parent company is a defense contractor, so I'm suspect that had more to do with the deal than the $7 million in tax breaks Carrier will get over the next 10 years from us in Indiana. While companies have leveraged their location based on tax incentives between states in past, now they may have a new leverage to stay in the country. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
#690
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Michigan doesn't take time to do a recount. It's bought and paid for by the other party, in this case, Stein. Spending money given to her for this purpose. If Michigan doesn't want other people to waste their money, it should have discouraged them before now. A waste of time and/or money is a pretty weak excuse, considering that it's all bought and paid for by private parties.
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#691
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Re: Decision 2016
From my understanding, Stein has raised money to cover some costs, but not all costs, and there is also a potential problem, in the event of a recount, with the final tally not being "official" in time for the electors final vote.
Usually I don't do links, but this Yahoo story is where I got the information: https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-...150741389.html |
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The point would be an audit of the vote. The President Elect himself has cast doubt upon it, the requesting party has raised money to pay for it, and the request itself is apparently lawful.
You know, Swamper, it's ok for you to sometimes agree with the position taken by someone who you think of as a liberal. Nothing bad will happen. Seriously, when Trump publicly claimed that there were millions of fake votes cast for Clinton, that should have been the end of this conversation. System integrity is important, as is trust in the system. The person about to assume the (arguably) most important job in the entire world just said that the vote was marred by fraud. People should be demanding a recount, particularly those who are his allies and supporters. |
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Agreeing with a liberal has nothing to do with this. You said that there would be no cost for Michigan to do the audit. From what I've read, that's not true, and that's all I was pointing out, along with the possibility of not getting the recount done by the deadline.
As for the point about Trump, I think people aren't taking it seriously because they know Trump is full of bull. I certainly don't think there were tons of illegal votes, and no one I know does, either. Trump has been full of crap since the beginning of the campaign. I choose not to worry about every crazy thing he says, cause he says a lot. I'll pay attention to his actions when the time comes. Speaking of actions, I'm not a fan of the Carrier deal. It's good for those individuals, but it sets a dangerous precedent. Are we gonna give every company tax breaks if they threaten to move overseas? I don't think that's a viable strategy. |
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I mean, I'm not sure what else could be done to keep jobs in America, this is basically what Trump ran on. You either incentivize staying, or disincentivize leaving. I don't think this will be something Trump consistently does, but rather he wants to show his supporters early that he will "save American jobs".
We will have to see though. Trump is still very much an unknown 10 Years of Gencon/Scapecon Battle Reports - Comic Battle Reports - Probability Calculator App - Reverse the Whip Army Archetypes "It's all about the game." - Sgt. Ernie Calhoun |
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