Peoria NHSD 2012: Draft

[kevindola]

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Date:Saturday, October 20, 2012
Time: 10am-7pm
Location: Just for Fun Games (Website, Map)++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Final Standings for this tournament. Format was 4 rounds swiss style where top 4 advanced to single elimination playoff round (including 3rd place game):

Champion: Kevindola (3-1, 2-0 playoffs)
Runner Up: Jexik (3-1, 1-1 playoffs)
3rd: vegietarian18 (4-0, 1-1 playoffs)
4th: jetjake (3-1, 0-2 playoffs)

(remainder of players ranked by SOS tiebreaker)
5th: Brian - legoboy's son (2-2)
6th: Legoboy (2-2)
7th: Clarissimus (2-2)
8th: vminer (2-2)
9th: Jason - vegie's dad (1-3)
10th: Captain Canuck (1-3)
11th: mac0122 (1-3)
12th: Devin - Jexik's nephew (0-4)

Details on the tournament and format below

Spoiler Alert!

Schedule*
10am-11:30am: Registration, Map Setup, Eat Lunch
11:30am-12:00pm: Rules rundown and Round Setup
12:00pm-4:00 pm: 4 Rounds of Games
4:00pm-5:00 pm: Semi-Finals + Extra Games
5:00pm-6:00 pm: 3rd Place Game and Championship
6:00pm-7:00 pm: Teardown, Cleanup, and Prizes

*Schedule is flexible. If we speed through maps, registration, and lunch then we could start sooner than 12 (assuming everyone is there). As soon as a complete round is finished by everyone, we will move on to the next round.
(There is no food in the play area, and any beverages must be in a lidded container.)

Rules
1) 400 Point Armies (bring your own dice, order markers, and wound markers)
2) “Draft Pool” (650-750 points) Tournament
How the Draft Pool Will Work:
Each player should bring between 650-750 points of army cards. You must have at least 4 different army cards of at least 25 points. You may not bring multiple of the same unique card (no two Raelins nor two Drakes of any kind) in your pool of figures brought. Once players are paired, the two of them place all of their units together in a communal pool. (You might want to either mark your cards or keep each player's cards in two piles right next to each other.) Each player rolls a 20-sided die, and the higher roller gets to decide which start zone they get or whether to pick first or second. The loser gets the remaining choice.
Then the draft begins: the person picking first will pick one card, and the person picking second will pick two; after that, each alternate picking one more card (1,2,1,1,1...). Your army may not exceed 400 points.
*As in the rulebook, common squads may be drafted one card at a time like everything else. (Please bring multiple cards for multiple squads.)
*If there are two of the exact same unique army card in the pool, each player may draft one, but the same unique may not be in the same army.
*All figures will be placed in the starting zones after both players have finished drafting.
*Please allow a few minutes for each player to familiarize his or herself with unfamiliar units before the draft begins, but after the draft begins, please move it along to maximize playing time: Aim for a 5 minute draft, which will allow ~45 minutes to play.
3) No Marvel, SoV, CuC and C3V figures.
4) Maps: Pleave select a map from the Battlefields of Valhalla list. If you want another in the pool, please send your request to me and I’ll review it to be admitted. We will obviously need 1 map for every two people attending, but if you’re attending please plan on bringing at least one map. I will update this with list of maps as people sign up for them.
5) Glyph Pool: We’re going to do glyphs slightly differently this year. Please provide your own glyphs for the map you made. You (the map bringer) pick the glyph pool for your map. If you do bring glyphs for your map, you may not have more than 1 of the same glyph in your pool. You may opt not to have any glyphs on your map. (Example: You may opt to only bring 2 different glyphs if that is the minimum amount needed for your map.) The glyph pool you choose must come from the list of glyphs below. Each opponent will be shown the glyphs before the game starts and they will be randomly chosen for their locations and put face down on the glyph locations. (If you choose to have glyphs, they must be placed where the map states they go)
Acceptable glyphs
-----Astrid (Attack +1)
-----Gerda (Defense +1)
-----Dagmar (+8 Initiative)
-----Wannok (Wound)
-----Valda (+2 Move)
-----Lodin (+1 D20)
-----Ulanlva (+1 Unique Attack)
-----Rannveig (Wind)
-----Crevcor (Common Attack +1)



6) Format ***NOTE: SCORING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR***(Based on the Super Simple System (SSS) for tourney management.)
-----50 Minute Timed Rounds (including draft) (I will try very hard to announce a 2 minute warning)(When time is called, finish the ROUND you were on, only if the first turn of the current round has been started)
-----Absolute (Fractional) Losing Score
-----Fractional Card Scoring


4 Swiss Rounds
Matches between players used to playing each other will be avoided in the 1st round only. Noone should play on the same map twice during the Swiss round, unless unavoidable.

Semifinals
The top 4 players will be ranked #1-#4 based on their final W/L then SoS, then losing points. The #1 player will play the #4 player and the #2 will play #3 in the Semifinals. However duplicate matches will be avoided if possible by switching the #3 and #4 players.
The higher seeded players will select the map.
Winners of this round advance to the Championship.
(All other players will play a 5th game Swiss Style)

Championship

2 Winners of the Semifinal match will play in the championship.
2 Losers of the Semifinal match will play in a 3rd place game.
The higher seeded player will select the map.
(All other players should tear down)



Prizes - Please, bring $5 to contribute to store gift certificates.
I will purchase a minimum of 3 Gift Certificates for J4F with the money. Anyone who can contribute additional prizes is encouraged to do so, such as spare figures that are never used or even non-Heroscape items of worth or interest. I will inquire to prize support from whatever is left from Hasbro’s stock. I will also update a prize list as it accumulates.

All prizes will be placed in a prize pool for selection in the order of finish in the standings.

Prize List
Just 4 Fun Gift Certificate #1 ($$ Unknown as of now)
Just 4 Fun Gift Certificate #2 ($$ Unknown as of now)
Just 4 Fun Gift Certificate #3 ($$ Unknown as of now)
Iron Rain Hill Giant Mage Knight Figure #1 (donated by mac122)
Iron Rain Hill Giant Mage Knight Figure #2 (donated by mac122)
Castle Set


List of Attendees [12]
kevindola
jetjake
mac122
vegietarian18
(dad of) vegietarian18
Jexik
(nephew of) Jexik
vminer
legoboy
Captain Canuck
(child of) legoboy
Clarissimus

List of Maps[8]
Sirocco - mac122
Fulcrum - kevindola
Ticalla Sunrise - Jexik
Highways and Dieways - vegietarian18
Stygian Rift - vegietarian18
Broken Skyline - Legoboy
Emabttled Fen - son of Legoboy
Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh - Captain Canuck

DISCLAIMER: All information is non-contractual and subject to change as deemed necessary by the tournament organizers.

[Evar-Scarcarver]

Originally Posted by kevindola

Then the draft begins: the person picking first will pick one card, and the person picking second will pick two; after that, each alternate picking one more card (1,2,1,1,1...). Your army may not exceed 400 points.
*As in the rulebook, common squads may be drafted one card at a time like everything else. (Please bring multiple cards for multiple squads.)

Boromir26, Samuelfrost4 and I did a mini tournament with four people using 750-point pool draft. (The fourth person was Boromir's little brother) We found that the person who picks second has a large advantage, being able to counter draft their opponents pick; also giving them a double pick advantage might give them a huge headstart. It's fine if you keep it, but I would suggest taking away that rule.

[boromir96]

You can put me down as a maybe.

But I think you should change this,

the person picking first will pick one card, and the person picking second will pick two

I've been practicing a lot, and I don't think 2nd pick should pick twice, because it's better to pick second already. If I pick first, the other person can pick a counter to what I just picked. If he gets to pick twice that's just icing on the cake.

Edit 'ed

[tomrza44]

I will be on the maybe list. I will update my status as we get closer to the tournament. Thanks.

[Vydar]

Glad to see this is still going. Good luck to all!

[vegietarian18]

I am definitely going to be there. I'm looking forward to a great day (it's on my birthday ).

I like the omission of C3V/SoV. It doesn't seem right for a NSHD event to have them. Perhaps in a few years, or if we ever get around to doing a summer tournament, but I do not think now is the time for it.

The format is good too. It's like Reverse the Whip, but with a little more strategy to it. I've already thought of a few builds, but I just need a few more figures to pull it off...

[boromir96]

Hmm, you said we'd be buying at least 3 Gift Cards, do you know what the rest will go to? I was thinking, It would be cool to use the rest of the money to buy a large Heroscape lot of ebay(Or even Auggies) Something like this, If we were to get 22 people at $5 bucks each we could afford that. Split it up into a RttFF, a RotV(May not be complete, I can't tell, but it looks very close ) And Orms Return.

Thoughts?

[kevindola]

I said a minimum of 3 cards, but I'm not opposed to getting something off of ebay once we get more clairty of the number of attendees and the cash pool we have to work with.

I'm also not convinced about the drafting policy change request. I think there are steps you can take as picking first that you can take to deflect or lessen the counter drafting done by the person going second. But if i get enough feedback that it should be changed, then I will listen to the people.

[vegietarian18]

I agree with leaving the drafting rules as it is. There will always be a best figure in the pool to take (Raelin, Major Q9, etc.), and picking first lets you take that figure. If you want to let me pick first if I play you, go ahead.

[boromir96]

Originally Posted by vegietarian18

I agree with leaving the drafting rules as it is. There will always be a best figure in the pool to take (Raelin, Major Q9, etc.), and picking first lets you take that figure. If you want to let me pick first if I play you, go ahead.

Yes, But if you pick Q9, Boom, they pick Stingersx2 or Nilfheim or Krug etc...

[vegietarian18]

The thing is, the pools aren't really large enough to allow for that kind of countering to be present. You basically can have two different armies, or you can have one army with slightly different variations on it that you can pick. You also have to be smart, and not put perfect counters to figures in your army in your pool, or put figures that only work well with other figures in your pool (ie: Sir Gilbert, Venoc Warlord, 4th Mass, etc)

[jetjake]

I think the drafting rules are fair (other than the glyphs rule because I want my massive curse). This sentence is a little confusing

and the higher roller gets to decide which start zone they get or whether to pick first or second. The loser gets the remaining choice.

If you get high roll, you can take 2nd pick, and honestly that decision may depend on what the draft pool is. If there are 2x Stingers or KOW, I may want 2nd pick instead of Krug or Raelin. The down side is that for less experienced players they may not be as comfortable with the powers or the technique you need to play with some of the less common figures.