Shogun Wallenstein - Page 2

ninthdoc · #13 October 22nd, 2006, 11:53 AM

Wow, it appears to come with its own dice tower. Sweet!

Edit: Okay, it's not quite a dice tower, but a mechanism to further randomize the luck factor of dice.

netherspirit · #14 October 22nd, 2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninthdoc

Wow, it appears to come with its own dice tower. Sweet!

Edit: Okay, it's not quite a dice tower, but a mechanism to further randomize the luck factor of dice.

I don't think you use it for the dice. I think its for the cubes in the game. You put all the cubes in the tower that are involved in a battle, some of them get stuck in there and some of them come through or something like that. Not sure exactly how it works as I haven't played the game, but I have read enough to get that general gist of the tower...

ninthdoc · #15 October 22nd, 2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by netherspirit

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Originally Posted by ninthdoc

Wow, it appears to come with its own dice tower. Sweet!

Edit: Okay, it's not quite a dice tower, but a mechanism to further randomize the luck factor of dice.

I don't think you use it for the dice. I think its for the cubes in the game. You put all the cubes in the tower that are involved in a battle, some of them get stuck in there and some of them come through or something like that. Not sure exactly how it works as I haven't played the game, but I have read enough to get that general gist of the tower...

From what I read, it's designed to actually trap some of the cubes and then release them during subsequent uses. It would make for more random results.

peterm · #16 October 22nd, 2006, 04:52 PM

Yeah, that's what it looks like to me too. I think you use it in the battles. With that system, if you drop your cubes in and not much comes out so you lose that battle, you can think that your odds for the next one are better given that you still have cubes left in it.

RichardD · #17 October 25th, 2006, 07:55 AM

Yup, that's exactly what it is. Queen first used it in Im Zeichen des Kreuzes, which was a fun game for 60 mintutes followed by a 15 minute endgame that sucked. Completely.

Then they used it for Walenstein. Which was a much better game.

Launched last week was Shogun. Same tower, same mechanics as Wallenstein, but with a samurai theme. Not played it yet (I have a copy upstairs), and as I bought back about 50 games from Germany this weekend, it will have to wait its turn.

BTW, if you like Wallenstein, the new Warfrog game, Perikles, is similar but better IMO.