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Old November 2nd, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Final Ruin

Final Ruin



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NAME = FINAL RUIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE ONE SHOT
TYPE = SPELL

POINTS = 10


FINAL RUIN
After a Unique Hero enemy within 5 clear spaces takes 1+ wounds from a normal attack, if that Unique Hero has only 1 Life remaining, this figure may cast this spell to defeat that Unique Hero.

PUBLISHER: C3G
REQUIREMENTS: MAGICAL AFFINITY
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WINTER 2024: Magic can be as deadly as it is beautiful, this spell highlights that fact by giving one who is already close to death a little push.

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One Shot: See the rules for playing with One Shots.

Credits
• Legacy design: Yodaking
• Card art: Japes

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Last edited by IAmBatman; February 3rd, 2024 at 12:16 PM.
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Old November 3rd, 2023, 09:14 AM
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Re: Final Ruin

You want "defeat" not destroy.

Big picture question: does this need to be unique? Any reason someone shouldn't be able to draft multiples of this?

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Old November 3rd, 2023, 10:18 AM
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Re: Final Ruin

Awesome to see some more spells converted!

Final Ruin was one of the strongest spells, IMO. That may be a reason for keeping it unique. But it doesn’t trigger every game so I could see multiples being wasted too.
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Old November 3rd, 2023, 10:34 AM
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Re: Final Ruin

I feel like I'd always forget to cast this thing when I used it, but I always forget to use these kinds of Backbreaker-style abilities, so maybe that's just a me problem, hoss.
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Old November 3rd, 2023, 01:19 PM
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Re: Final Ruin

Because it is not a guaranteed cast, I'm not sure I personally would draft multiples unless I had multiple spell casters in my army (and thus better odds of being able to cast it). I find it pretty satisfying to cast when it can be used though. Not sure the opponent would feel the same if it happened multiple times per game.

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Old November 3rd, 2023, 01:23 PM
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Re: Final Ruin

Point of clarification/potential tweak idea here:

The language in 1.0 made it clear the caster was the one who had to be making the normal attack in order to cast the spell, but when I tried updating the language that may or not have come through. Which gave me an idea here, what if you could cast it after anyone on your team made a normal attack that left someone within range (ie. aura around caster) at 1 life. Maybe make the caster be not engaged unless they are the one making the attack?
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Old November 3rd, 2023, 01:25 PM
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Re: Final Ruin

I like that tweak. I wouldn't worry about the engagement part, though.

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Re: Final Ruin

FINAL RUIN
After an enemy Unique Hero within X clear spaces receives 1+ wounds from a normal attack action, if that Unique Hero has only 1 Life remaining, this figure may cast this spell to defeat that Unique Hero.
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Old November 3rd, 2023, 03:35 PM
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Re: Final Ruin

Looks good. Do we want normal attack action or just normal attack here?
Also, you want "takes" not "receives."

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Re: Final Ruin

I'm not sure. I thought we were trying not to use attack as a term, referring to either the attack phase or attack action so I went with normal attack action.

*takes edited and updated above, going with X=5, to match the aura size of Final Ruin (another 10 point unique spell that deals 1W)*
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Re: Final Ruin

We haven't been trying to avoid attack as a term. We've been trying to avoid timing things after an attack when they need to know the results of the attack (wounding, etc.) to work correctly. This isn't using the attack for the timing, though, just as the source of the wounds.

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Re: Final Ruin

Updated. Vote for FE!

YK - yea
Bats - yea

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