The Book of Martial La Hire

[Arch-vile]

Well he wouldn't guard it as an attacker, now would he? He would have a tough time wounding it anyway though.

[superfrog]

I found Martial to be useful with Theracus, as a "T-bomb". It sets him away from friendly forces and can be a quick but devastating hit to your enemy's front line, and all for 110 pts.

[kpucblek]

I see him as a fun guys to use in an
"adventuring party". He doesn't seem to fit with many competitive armies.

[capsocrates]

Originally Posted by kpucblek

I see him as a fun guys to use in an
"adventuring party". He doesn't seem to fit with many competitive armies.

He's actually a great filler / cleanup hero. I love throwing him in my armies whenever I can.

[Sir Dendrik]

He's Concan without the frills, but with a potential to attack twice, 10 points cheaper.

As far as filler goes, that's solid. Unless you're into the Zettian Guards.

[flameslayer93]

Originally Posted by Super Bogue

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

If you want to get the second attack out on Reckless Second Swing, his first target has to be a figure. DO's are not considered figures.

You are free to use his second attack on the door however.

[kolakoski]

Well met!

I'd be inclined to use him with Finn.

[flameslayer93]

Originally Posted by kolakoski

Well met!

I'd be inclined to use him with Finn.

That's an interesting idea, but a bit OM intensive isn't it? Well maybe you could use Knights...

Hawthorne
Finn
La Hire
Knights x4
550 points

Finn and La Hire move in first. If La Hire goes down before Finn, then you can still put Finn's Spirit on

[Xotli]

Originally Posted by flameslayer93

If you want to get the second attack out on Reckless Second Swing, his first target has to be a figure. DO's are not considered figures.

You are free to use his second attack on the door however.

Well, the question is whether you'd be forced to use his second attack on the door if you had no other targets available, and SB was saying that you would (which I would agree with). Now, as to whether the door could be the first figure involved ... well, I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as you seem to believe. Let me ask the C3V Rules Team to weigh in on the topic.

[Xotli]

Originally Posted by Xotli

Well, the question is whether you'd be forced to use his second attack on the door if you had no other targets available, and SB was saying that you would (which I would agree with). Now, as to whether the door could be the first figure involved ... well, I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as you seem to believe. Let me ask the C3V Rules Team to weigh in on the topic.

I have a consensus from the C3V Rules Team; would the creator of this Bo thread please add this to the OP?

Originally Posted by R&C

If Martial attacks a destructible object and causes a wound, is he required to attack a second time?
Yes. Even though destructible objects are not figures, they are impacted by special attacks or special powers that only cause wounds, and Reckless Second Swing is such a power.

Now, for those who don't feel this is sufficient explanation, let me point out a few other things, based on the Official FAQ:

• The FAQ says: "Remember, that the Door is not a figure, but it can be targeted and attacked much the same way a figure is targeted and attacked, with some exceptions." It then lists several exceptions, none of which apply in the case of Reckless Second Swing.
• Yes, Reckless Second Swing does specifically say "when Martial La Hire wounds a figure"; however, so do many special attacks which we know apply to destructible objects. For instance, Explosion Special Attack says "choose a figure to attack," but we know that you can choose a destructible object, because the FAQ says: "If I target the closed door with an explosion attack (that also affects adjacent figures), will it affect figures that are adjacent to it, even if they are on the other side? Yes."

Hopefully this is sufficient for everyone.