What will be the first Marvel Expansion?

[Wytefang]

What will be the first Marvel expansion?

(For fun, you can also say what you think it 'should' be, as well.)

:D

[johnny139]

Though the Fantastic Four deserve it more, being Marvel's first BIG superhero comic, I'm 99% sure it'll be the X-Men. Wolverine sells.

[netherspirit]

Aren't there already a few of these discussions?

[IAmBatman]

I believe this one is the most relevant:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=4991

I believe this is the first poll on the topic, however. (and hopefully the only one we'll be seeing!)

[netherspirit]

Its your section, I won't step on your toes....this time. :P

[IAmBatman]

If you or Hex or anyone decides this is lockable, no problem in my book. I'm learning on the job here. :P But I don't think it's toooo terribly redundant. And with this being a less trafficed section, there's a little bit more leeway for that type of thing now. If traffic levels get nearer the regular section, I'll be a little quicker on the guns.

[jcb231]

Fantastic Four just had a reasonably successful movie out. Maybe they will beat the X-men to the punch, but I doubt it.

[Grungebob]

If you or Hex or anyone decides this is lockable, no problem in my book. I'm learning on the job here. :P But I don't think it's toooo terribly redundant. And with this being a less trafficed section, there's a little bit more leeway for that type of thing now. If traffic levels get nearer the regular section, I'll be a little quicker on the guns.You run it your way Batman!! We want MORE traffic here so I say go for it!!

[IAmBatman]

If you or Hex or anyone decides this is lockable, no problem in my book. I'm learning on the job here. :P But I don't think it's toooo terribly redundant. And with this being a less trafficed section, there's a little bit more leeway for that type of thing now. If traffic levels get nearer the regular section, I'll be a little quicker on the guns.You run it your way Batman!! We want MORE traffic here so I say go for it!!

That's kind of my thinking. If traffic/multiple threads become a big problem in this section, I'll respond in kind. As is, Hex or the admins beat me to locking the obvious problem threads 99% of the time.

[K/H_Addict]

Carnage. and the Rhino.

[IAmBatman]

I think the Fantastic Four and the X-Men are the obvious choices in this poll (and thus the most likely ones). I think the *huge* omission of Wolverine will make an X-Men one the most likely, though.
The real question is will Marvel expansions come in new Master Sets or in booster packs?
If it's booster packs, I could see an X-Men pack like this:

Wolverine
Sabretooth
Professor X
Magneto
Storm

and this:

Jean Grey
Cyclops
Angel
Beast
Ice Man

If it's a Master Set, it'll likely be the 5 heroes to 5 villains breakdown, meaning ...

Wolverine Sabretooth
Storm Mystique
Prof X Magneto
Cyclops Juggernaut
Jean Grey Apocalypse

[Wytefang]

I mainly posted this because it's a poll though I hadn't done my research enough to notice other posts like this (should've realized this would have been talked about, to death, already...LOL)...

So my apologies for a somewhat duplicated topic. If you choose to lock it, no recriminations on my part, good sir. Who am I to question THE Batman?

[Uprising]

Well, I'm not as familiar with the other groups as I am with the X-Men. I still have a box of about 250 X-Men comics in my parents garage from the 80's. They would be my pick. Wolverine has to be one of the most well known super heroes. I would like to see Colossus make an appearance. He was always my favorite Hero. I voted X-Men by the way.

[jcb231]

I am really hoping this game is sold as Master Sets. It will give us extra terrain without buying duplicate figures and seems like a nice way to get some second-tier characters in there without "cheapening" a pack that only contains four-five figures (booster) to begin with.

But yeah...Fantastic Four and X-men are a given, even if they make nothing else. Putting Wolverine's face on anything sells, and there are enoguh X-men that multiple packs could be made. And they can't have Doom without the FF to fight him. I'm just crossing my fingers that they make the whole FF team.....toy comapnies have a tendancy to ignore Sue Storm or Reed Richards sometimes and just focus on the "cool" looking Thing and Torch. This is one of those times when they need to package the whole team together. Hopefully we'll get a Galactus too....if we have Surfer we need his boss.

As a third option, I like Marvel Knights....Punisher, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, and Doctor Strange are all major enough characters to warrant a pack. Add in a Spidey-villain or two, Bullseye, Kingpin, or supernatural villains like Mephisto and you've got a fun expansion.

For a fourth, the Avengers would work....Thor has got to be in the works, and heroes like Nick Fury, Black Panther, or Hawkeye seem likely.

[IAmBatman]

I think if we're getting guys like Thanos and Abomination in the first Master Set, they're saavy enough to put Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman in any Fantastic Four expansions.

[jcb231]

I think if we're getting guys like Thanos and Abomination in the first Master Set, they're saavy enough to put Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman in any Fantastic Four expansions.

I certainly hope so.

[IAmBatman]

Craig and the boys (and gals) have earned my trust enough by this point to think that they wouldn't make such an easily avoidable blunder.

[Dartheyegouger]

While unlikely, they could have, in the same Wave, a Fantastic Four and an X-Men pack.

[rdhight]

If it's a Master Set, it'll likely be the 5 heroes to 5 villains breakdown, meaning ...

Wolverine Sabretooth
Storm Mystique
Prof X Magneto
Cyclops Juggernaut
Jean Grey Apocalypse

Niiiiiice. I can easily picture an Avengers set about like that, too. (And I would buy it.) But what about a Fantastic Four lineup in this format? Who would you tap for the fifth hero? A two-hex Fantasticar? And with Doom and the Silver Surfer already taken care of, what five villains would make worthy opponents?

[jcb231]

I hope they don't always feel the need to make equal numbers of heroes and villains. Spider-Man, for instance, has a lot of well-known rogues to fight and is only one man. Pairing his villains with other heroes would be weird.

[JIrish780]

Not in all cases, though, jcb. Sandman and Hydro Man both have a pretty decent history of antagonizing the Fantastic Four as part of the Wizard's Frightful Four, so putting one of them in the F4 expansion would probably be a savvy move on Hasbro's part.

[IAmBatman]

I think She-Hulk would make a pretty good fifth hero in a Fantastic Four set. Namor would be another consideration.
Hmm ... Fantastic Four villains ... Skrulls and Mole Man would both be immediate considerations ... Galactus would be on that list as well, but he's almost worth a large hero (or large terrain!) expansion all on his own ... I'm really more of a DC guy, though, so my knowledge of Marvel characters is somewhat limited.

[rdhight]

I think She-Hulk would make a pretty good fifth hero in a Fantastic Four set. Namor would be another consideration.
Hmm ... Fantastic Four villains ... Skrulls and Mole Man would both be immediate considerations ... Galactus would be on that list as well, but he's almost worth a large hero (or large terrain!) expansion all on his own ... I'm really more of a DC guy, though, so my knowledge of Marvel characters is somewhat limited.

The Ultimate Galactus was some kind of a swarm, and the Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus was a cloud-like being. If the Marvel masterminds have made a decision to move away from portraying Galactus as a humanoid who's vulnerable in a conventional superhero fight, we might never see him as a figure or even terrain.

Cool ideas, though.

[Cleon]

I put (and think) that X-Men will be the first expansion because they didn't put any in the master set. Spider Man and Fantastic Four did come out with movies recently, but that was a couple mounths ago. I think X-Men will be the first, just because it seems most likely and a good first expansion (to me).

[IAmBatman]

We get Spidey and Venom in the Masterset. I think there will be more Spidey related characters eventually, but seems like they'd hold off and cover some other territory first.

[Talos]

The Ultimate Galactus was some kind of a swarm, and the Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus was a cloud-like being. If the Marvel masterminds have made a decision to move away from portraying Galactus as a humanoid who's vulnerable in a conventional superhero fight, we might never see him as a figure or even terrain.

Cool ideas, though.

I just pray if they do decide to do Galactus, that he is portrayed as he was originally. I remember being awestruck by the planet devouring Giant and his sleek silver herald reading the comics when I was a kid. Big mistake trying to retcon him as anything but the iconic image. I was bitterly disappointed to hear that they had altered him in the new FF film.

As for expansions, I voted for X-Men, as it would be the most saleable, even though it's not my first choice.

As far as my personal preference, I would be hoping for a Fantastic Four, or Avengers set, definitely more terrain with future expansions too. There's not enough in the base set from what I can see.

Whatever they do with MarvelScape, I am hoping they retain a 'classic Marvel' feel. I like the assortment of characters they've released and I would hate to see too many obscure characters appearing without fair representation of the characters that made Marvel what it is today! :2cents:

Yes, I'm a TTB...'nuff said! 8)

[JIrish780]

Starting with Galactus, I have a hard time calling the movie version a retcon, since there's no Galactus continuity in the movies for them to retcon in the first place! Is it a drastic change from what we're familier with? Of course. Is it a good idea? Well, us comic geeks don't think so, but look at it from the perspective of the average movie-goer. What would they take more seriously, a gigantic cloud of cosmic energy, or a ridiculously huge man in a purple outfit and a bucket helmet?

That having been said, since Heroscape is taking it's cues from the classic versions and interpretations, we'll almost certainly get bucket-head Galactus if they decide to bequeth us with one. Personally, I hope they release him as a full-scale set, with terrain pieces to represent the devices he used to convert a planet's energy into what he can consume, as well as some of his other Heralds (Firelord, Terrax, Airwalker, et al).

Now, for an F4 set, She-Hulk would be probably the best choice. She's got ties not just to the F4, but also the Hulk (duh) and the Avengers, not to mention a moderately successful comic book, as well as a couple other toys that are either newly released or will be soon. Namor's not a bad choice, either, especially since a Defenders set would look horribly truncated without Hulk and Surfer, the teams two best known members to Joe Public.

And it's said Joe Public which leads us to problems with the F4 villains. Aside from Dr. Doom, they haven't penetrated the mainstream consciousness very much at all. So, from a marketing perspective, they'd probably need to instead focus on picking characters with dynamic appearances, hoping for a "wow, that guy looks cool" reaction since they're less likely to get a "hey, I know that guy" response. Hence, characters like Puppet Master and the Mad Thinker aren't as likely to appear as Annihilous, Dragon Man and the oft-mentioned Super Skrull.

All this is really conjecture on my part, of course. I'd simply die if I got the chance to play with an official 'Scape released Mad Thinker and his Awesome Android, but I'm not holding my breath here, either.

[ninthdoc]

Definitely X-Men.

[jcb231]

The Ultimate Galactus was some kind of a swarm, and the Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus was a cloud-like being. If the Marvel masterminds have made a decision to move away from portraying Galactus as a humanoid who's vulnerable in a conventional superhero fight, we might never see him as a figure or even terrain.

Cool ideas, though.

I just pray if they do decide to do Galactus, that he is portrayed as he was originally. I remember being awestruck by the planet devouring Giant and his sleek silver herald reading the comics when I was a kid. Big mistake trying to retcon him as anything but the iconic image. I was bitterly disappointed to hear that they had altered him in the new FF film.


Actually, you never real see him in the film. You see a cloud with something vague and perhaps alien looking behind it. In watching the movie, I could envsion Galactus as just about anything I wanted him to be. If I wanted the Jack Kirby version, the movie didn't rule him out as being in that mysterious mechanical cloud.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Out of the entire Marvel genre, Spider-man and the X-men are the most popular, so since Spidy is finished...the X-men will probally be next.

[atmospro]

Firstly I don't think the Marvel expansion are going to follow the same pattern as classic scape. They will be small in the form of either 1 large booster package, a la large classic expansions or two booster packages. If the latter then I see four or five heroes per package. One package all heroes and the other all villains. I don't for see squad in the foreseeable future.

as to what I would like to see that's another story so here goes
Adam Warlock
Pip the Troll
Captain Mar-Vel (original Kree war hero)
Starlord
Caleb Hammer
Jack-of-Hearts (original version)
MoonKnight
Ka-Zar
Dr. Strange
Paladin
Dominic Fortune
Black Bolt and The Inhuman crew
A Man called Paradox

Drax the Destroyer
Magus
Ultron
The Ancient One
Super Skrull
Mandrake
Tasksmaster

[rdhight]

The Ultimate Galactus was some kind of a swarm, and the Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus was a cloud-like being. If the Marvel masterminds have made a decision to move away from portraying Galactus as a humanoid who's vulnerable in a conventional superhero fight, we might never see him as a figure or even terrain.

Cool ideas, though.

I just pray if they do decide to do Galactus, that he is portrayed as he was originally. I remember being awestruck by the planet devouring Giant and his sleek silver herald reading the comics when I was a kid. Big mistake trying to retcon him as anything but the iconic image. I was bitterly disappointed to hear that they had altered him in the new FF film.


Actually, you never real see him in the film. You see a cloud with something vague and perhaps alien looking behind it. In watching the movie, I could envsion Galactus as just about anything I wanted him to be. If I wanted the Jack Kirby version, the movie didn't rule him out as being in that mysterious mechanical cloud.

True. Maybe the Kirby Galactus was in there all along with his feet up on a big ... dusty... uh, ottoman or something... um, made out of... dust? Okay, it's a little hard to picture, but you make a good point.

[Talos]

The Ultimate Galactus was some kind of a swarm, and the Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus was a cloud-like being. If the Marvel masterminds have made a decision to move away from portraying Galactus as a humanoid who's vulnerable in a conventional superhero fight, we might never see him as a figure or even terrain.

Cool ideas, though.

I just pray if they do decide to do Galactus, that he is portrayed as he was originally. I remember being awestruck by the planet devouring Giant and his sleek silver herald reading the comics when I was a kid. Big mistake trying to retcon him as anything but the iconic image. I was bitterly disappointed to hear that they had altered him in the new FF film.


Actually, you never real see him in the film. You see a cloud with something vague and perhaps alien looking behind it. In watching the movie, I could envsion Galactus as just about anything I wanted him to be. If I wanted the Jack Kirby version, the movie didn't rule him out as being in that mysterious mechanical cloud.

True. Maybe the Kirby Galactus was in there all along with his feet up on a big ... dusty... uh, ottoman or something... um, made out of... dust? Okay, it's a little hard to picture, but you make a good point.

Funny that you guys have mentioned this. I have just read a review in the latest SFX magazine from the UK and they mentioned Galactus' appearance in detail. To paraphrase, they say that he's not nearly daft enough, and agree with jcb in that you can almost imagine his helmeted face hidden in the cloud. They summed my feelings up in this paragraph:

"The comic book Galactus is such a fabulous visual: a skyscraping glam rocker come to eat your planet. It's the kind of outlandish, unapologetic dream imagery that cinema should be trading in. We're not watching Gosford Park here people. There's room in our hearts for giant spacemen in purple stack heel boots."

That sums up my gripe, they copped out because they thought the image of Galactus might look cheesy on screen, or that the audience wouldn't be able to accept it, or (perish the thought) laugh a little! But we KNOW how he's supposed to look and I for one wanted him represented just like that! :2cents:

[riledguy]

For the age groups they are targeting.... X-Men is the best bet to pull in sales.

Also they are just plain the coolest... though the Ultimates has made me like the avengers a lot.

[NecroBlade]

Avengers Assemble! is one of the scenarios, isn't it?

[riledguy]

Avengers Assemble! is one of the scenarios, isn't it?

It is though they are drawing from the new avengers and have spider-man in there.

[NecroBlade]

Avengers Assemble! is one of the scenarios, isn't it?

It is though they are drawing from the new avengers and have spider-man in there.All the more reason to have some of the original Avengers show up then, IMO.

[riledguy]

Avengers Assemble! is one of the scenarios, isn't it?

It is though they are drawing from the new avengers and have spider-man in there.All the more reason to have some of the original Avengers show up then, IMO.

I really hope they do as they are much fun. I want Thor more then any other single character.

Though as far as the next set you just can do better then ...
http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/groupsandteams/xmen/xmen90s.jpg

[IAmBatman]

I'd be surprised if we got that many X-Men in the next set ... (or, sadly, ever ...)

[riledguy]

I'd be surprised if we got that many X-Men in the next set ... (or, sadly, ever ...)

I would be happy with ...

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/groupsandteams/xmen/xmen60s.jpg

though I doubt it would ever happen...

It would be great to get the original team as everyone now has a high cost. It would be fun to be able to field a small team for about the cost of Thanos.

Then later they could sell there current and much more powerful incarnations.

[IAmBatman]

As far as alternate versions of those guys, I at the very least hope we get both an Angel and an Archangel over time.

[kboleen]

I would like to see Fantastic Four released together. If Marvel expansions are released like Heroscape, we may see FF, X-men, Avengers, and another set released at once.

[GI Joker]

I voted for x-men because they have always been my favorite. However, I am under no illusions that my favorite character will be coming out any time soon, or ever for that matter(see avatar). They should release some squads, though. A group of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents or Skrulls would be cool. Or you could have Cap lead the ABE from classic against the Red Skull. I would also like to see a Deadpool figure, but again, that is not real likely.

[Wytefang]

If, in fact, the X-men ARE the first Wave for Marvel Legends, I can't imagine them NOT including Nightcrawler. His Teleport ability and cool appearance makes him nearly a shoo-in, in my estimation, to be included in any kind of X-men expansion. :D

Man, I can't wait for new Marvel figures!! Juggernaut, Wolvie, Sabretooth, Iceman (he'd look pretty cool, I bet), Apocaplypse, Angel (Kyrie?), and so many more cool units.... :drool:

[IAmBatman]

If they release an X-Men Masterset that's in the same mold as the Marvel Legends Masterset they released (i.e. 5 heroes, 5 villains), I really don't see Nightcrawler making the cut. I'd think Cyclops, Wolverine, and Storm would be absolute shoe ins, with Jean Grey being darned close as well. That leaves one slot that could just as easily go to Prof X, Colossus, Rogue, Iceman, Beast, or a few others as Nightcrawler, IMO.

[GI Joker]

Yeah, I agree he is teh roxorz, as the kids say, but he is not as main stream as say, Wolvie of Cyclops. He was really cool in the second movie, even if they messed with his appearance and personality a bit, but he is still kind of a second-tier X-man. Of course more people know about him than guys like Havoc, Sunspot, or Sage so I will keep up hope.

[johnny139]

Nightcrawler is one of those "Well known, but not a selling point" figures. He won't ever be a focus, but he's an inevitable release.

[hex706f726368]

I voted xmen. It's a practical choice. Their bound to get at least a couple figures everyone will want.

It will be interesting to see how fast hasbro pumps out marvel expansions. We get 3 waves of boosters plus a large hero set every year of classic scape. And so far we've got a new masterset once every 3(?) years of classic scape.

The consensus seems to be that hasbro will continue to do mini-mastersets for marvel. I'm more than likely wrong, but I'm beginning to think there's going to have to be something between mini-mastersets.

Obviously they can't pump mini-mastersets out as fast as classic heroscape waves, but they'll also likely come faster classic master sets. I can't imagine them doing more than 1 per year just based on available shelf space at the local B&M. I think marvel masterset 2 will have to share or replace the spot taken by this first one. And to keep a consistent price point, it'll likely be 10 figures again. At 10 figures per year...that just seems too slow to me. There has to be something in between...right?

[IAmBatman]

I agree that if there are several expansions, he's a likely release. I just don't know if he's a shoe in to be in the first wave of X-Men. I'd call him a top 10 X-Man hero in terms of recognizability, though.

[Wytefang]

Well I may have jumped the gun a bit in that theory but since I'm almost 100% positive that any first expansion would be themed around the X-universe, it doesn't seem unlikely that he'd not be included. Plus you have to consider powers and appearance for sculpting purposes. He'd make a very striking figure and he has that little extra 'Bamf!' ability that the Beast (who's also blue and fuzzy) doesn't.

[MacG]

I'd love a Nightcrawler, especially because
1) he's hard to proxy - I hate the sculpt of the only "cheap" Nightcrawler clix.
2) he's a favorite of mine as well.

I'm not holding my breath for themed expansions. Look at the first MS: Spidey - Hulk - Iron Man - Captain America - Silver Surfer

They have no real common ground, except maybe provisional Avenger status. Doom without the FF? I think they're hitting as many bases as possible.

The villains were chosen to be pairings, as far as I can tell. Spidey vs. Venom! Surfer vs. Thanos! Etc. (Doc Doom and Iron Man aren't really in there, but they're each the "smart inventing genius in a tin can" sort.)

I'll bet the expansions are all mixed to pull in as many fans as possible. I think they'll want to work in some pairings to give kids obvious oppositions, but will put a few guys from the heroes and villains of (FFour, Avengers, Spider-friends, Marvel Knights) in each expansion.

A possible first expansion is:
Jean Grey - Wolverine - Mister Fantastic - Daredevil - Ms. Marvel/Warbird
White Queen - Sabertooth - Annihilus (classic) - Bullseye - Green Goblin

second expansion:
Cyclops - Storm - Human Torch - Sue Storm - Ghost Rider
Magneto - Juggernaut - Klaw - Sandman - Blackheart

third expansion:
Nightcrawler - Colossus - Thing - Black Widow - Nick Fury (for Ninth)
Mystique - Avalanche - SuperSkrull - Viper(Hydra) - Baron Zemo

[IAmBatman]

A fourth expansion along those lines might be -

Jubilee - Prof X - Human Torch - Punisher - Thor
Toad - Apocalypse - Mole Man - Deadpool - Loki

I was gonna go Ice Man/Pyro, but too much hot cold action when you've got Human Torch too.

[TheMightyAargh]

I think one logistical thing I can't quite guess is how these expansions will be delivered. Will they be in waves, like the "bubble" packages we see in CHS? Or will they be maybe boxed sets, like a Raknar's Vision or Orm's Return?

I think that's a crucial consideration to tell how the exansion are going to be. If they're like the former than we may see more commons like: AIM soldiers, Shield Agents, Brood Aliens, Morlocks, Street Thugs, NYPD, etc. And the heroes might be more themed.

If they boxed, then I totally see expansions like MacG envisioned.

I personally hope it's the latter with more unique heroes.

[ej]

HULK NEEDS INFORMATION!

[Wytefang]

Oh man, all this talk about new figures has me just drooling - there are SO many well-known, interesting, and powerful heroes in the Marvel Universe. I can't WAIT until we get an expansion. Aggghghghghghgh!!! This is agonizing!!! :frustrated:

[monkeyfish]

X-men, since they've got a lot of popular characters(ex. Wolverine).

[IAmBatman]

It was a bit on the ambiguous side, but Craig and co seemed to hint on the podcast that Marvel expansions would be just like regular Heroscape expansions - thus waves and boosters, not just Master set after Master set.
But, I could be reading too much into what little they said.

[hex706f726368]

It was a bit on the ambiguous side, but Craig and co seemed to hint on the podcast that Marvel expansions would be just like regular Heroscape expansions - thus waves and boosters, not just Master set after Master set.
But, I could be reading too much into what little they said.

I got the same thing from the podcast. I still think it will be interesting to see how shelf space in traditional B&M's is handled between classic and marvel heroscape. For re-stocking purposes, I hope they have separate areas.

[Firemaster]

Well, based on the latest pixelated picture:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Firemaster_M/pixelatedpic.jpg

it seems we will be getting Beast and the Super Skrull. I expect it will likely be a dual themed set, where 2 teams and their villains are represented. So, here is what I think:

Pack 1:
Mr. Fantastic
Invisible Woman
Super Skrull
Paibok the Power Skrull

Pack 2:
Human Torch
The Thing
Annihilus
Wizard

Pack 3:
Beast
Wolverine
Sabretooth
Sauron

Pack 4:
Nightcrawler
Cyclops
Mystique
Havok

[jcb231]

I hope the boosters are solid.

I was kinda hoping the set would be boosted by large figure packs....increases the odds we'd get second and third stringers. Small boosters are going to have to all have a first stringer in order to sell, and there's only so many of those big characters. I wonder how long they really intend this line to go on for.

[Talos]

Well, based on the latest pixelated picture:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Firemaster_M/pixelatedpic.jpg

it seems we will be getting Beast and the Super Skrull.

I agree with you as to the charcater on the right, It looks like the Beast, maybe the one one the left is Johnny Storm? His arms look like they are 'flaming on'...

Where did the pic originate from?

[ej]

I hope the boosters are solid.

I was kinda hoping the set would be boosted by large figure packs....increases the odds we'd get second and third stringers. Small boosters are going to have to all have a first stringer in order to sell, and there's only so many of those big characters. I wonder how long they really intend this line to go on for.

Great question. Time will tell, but I've got a feeling that booster packs are going to be no more than 3, possibly 4 figures each. To maximize the longevity of the license they're going to have to include a couple of second/third stringers in each pack. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a pack for Thor, Loki, Katie Power and Doug Ramsey.

[champrjk]

I'm hoping for fantastic four. But most likely I believe it will be some x-men.

[johnny139]

Well, based on the latest pixelated picture:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Firemaster_M/pixelatedpic.jpg

it seems we will be getting Beast and the Super Skrull.

Yep, definitely Super-Skrull. Green face, flaming hands, invisible legs... awesome!

[WeaponV]

Well, based on the latest pixelated picture:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Firemaster_M/pixelatedpic.jpg

it seems we will be getting Beast and the Super Skrull.

Yep, definitely Super-Skrull. Green face, flaming hands, invisible legs... awesome!

It actually looks like one hand is on fire and the other one looks like stone (the Thing's hand). It is bigger and more orange than the other.

[johnny139]

Well, based on the latest pixelated picture:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Firemaster_M/pixelatedpic.jpg

it seems we will be getting Beast and the Super Skrull.

Yep, definitely Super-Skrull. Green face, flaming hands, invisible legs... awesome!

It actually looks like one hand is on fire and the other one looks like stone (the Thing's hand). It is bigger and more orange than the other.

On a second look, yes, I believe you're right. That pretty much confirms it, huh?

[jcb231]

Pixilation study is so much easier when you kinda know what the characters are, isn't it?

No more squinting and analyzing all of history, fantasy, and sci-fi to find the answer. We just glance at a blob and basically know who it is. I'm spoiled now for future blobs.

[Grungebob]

They look like pixilated blobs to me!! You guys sure you aren't just letting your imagination run wild?

[Obsidianator]

If they have super skrull, maybe they'll have an expansion for skree and skrull warriors. THeir giant whale transports would be awesome.

[dickflea]

Oh i would so love an X-Men expansion with all the favourites like Nightcrawler and Colossus.

I think they might have to have more then one pack hehehe...

[jcb231]

Oh i would so love an X-Men expansion with all the favourites like Nightcrawler and Colossus.

I think they might have to have more then one pack hehehe...

Definately...there's no wy they'd just release one pack with four or five X-men in it and call it a day. If they're really commited to pushing this line, they could easily make four or five packs without dipping too low into the dregs.

[IAmBatman]

Let's see ... if there are five in a pack ... we'd at least need ...

Cyclops
Jean Grey
Ice Man
Beast
Angel
Prof X
Wolverine
Storm
Rogue
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Shadowcat
Magneto
Sabretooth
Mystique
Psilocke
Blob
Pyro
Toad
Apocalypse
Sauron
Multiple Man
Juggernaut
Jubilee
Bishop
Cable
Havok
and ... that's all the fairly iconic ones I can think of off the top of my head. That's like 27, though, so 5 or 6 packs easy. And I'm a pretty casual X-Men fan.

[Turtleboy]

Onslaught is whom im hoping for, but id take Colossus too :wink:

[Wytefang]

You forgot Longshot. :P

[jcb231]

Let's see ... if there are five in a pack ... we'd at least need ...

Cyclops
Jean Grey
Ice Man
Beast
Angel
Prof X
Wolverine
Storm
Rogue
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Shadowcat
Magneto
Sabretooth
Mystique
Psilocke
Blob
Pyro
Toad
Apocalypse
Sauron
Multiple Man
Juggernaut
Jubilee
Bishop
Cable
Havok
and ... that's all the fairly iconic ones I can think of off the top of my head. That's like 27, though, so 5 or 6 packs easy. And I'm a pretty casual X-Men fan.

I think your definition of "iconic" is a bit of a stretch.....or just REALLY wishful thinking! :-)

I'd go with these before I felt like I was pushing it in the recognizability area:

Heroes:
Wolverine
Colossus
Professor X
Iceman
Angel
Beast
Jean Grey
Cyclops
Storm
Nightcrawler
....I think all of the above are "lunchbox worthy" characters. Kids know them. They are in countless toys and games already and make up the core of nearly any version of the team. They also all have interesting powers or sculpts.

Villains:
Sabretooth
Juggernaut
Magneto
Toad
Mystique
Apocalypse
Sentinels (if they make squads I think Sentinels, Skrulls, and SHIELD Agents have got to be front runners)
...when I think X-men villians, these are the ones that spring to mind. I think the general public is well-versed in most of them (maybe not Apocalypse) due to the movies, and all can be easily justified.

That makes 16 plus Sentinels....perhaps four packs of all mutant action? Sentinels could go in a large figure pack with Galactus or other biggies.

If I was told to stretch these out to five or six packs....I'd probably "fill-in" with these secondary/tertiary guys:
-Shadowcat
-Blob
-Rogue (super-fun game mechanics might justify her inclusion as a major player)
-Gambit
-Psylocke
-Bishop
-Deadpool (perhaps as a pack-in with the Punisher, as Punisher has no real notable villain of his own....Jigsaw is barely recognizable to the non-fan...Deadpool might at least be somewhat known)
-Cable
-Mister Sinister (we may need villains if the trend becomes hero/villain pairs)

I don't think they'll make Jubilee, Sauron, Multiple Man, Pyro, Banshee, Forge, Siryn, Polaris, Dazzler, Havok, or really any other mutants unless the game goes on for a really long time....Multiple Man had his moment of movie stardom, but does that really justify multiple figures for a fairly minor villain? You'd likely need at least three figures to make the mechanic fun....a lot of valuable package space there. Pyro doesn't add anything that Human Torch couldn't handle, Jubilee and Havok don't do anything exciting compared to many other Marvel stars, and Sauron is in no way a major player.

[IAmBatman]

You're probably right, jcb. I hope they do Sentinels as common heroes - maybe packed one at a time with some terrain. I think with the high points they'll need to be really representative, they'd work better that way. That way you can still have hordes of them, but only one at a time would move. I think in order for them to be as strong as they should be, a squad would be veeeeery expensive (in terms of points).

[jcb231]

You're probably right, jcb. I hope they do Sentinels as common heroes - maybe packed one at a time with some terrain. I think with the high points they'll need to be really representative, they'd work better that way. That way you can still have hordes of them, but only one at a time would move. I think in order for them to be as strong as they should be, a squad would be veeeeery expensive (in terms of points).

Given that they could only have one life though I think you have to go with a squad unless you give the common hero figure some sort of very powerful multi-attack. Otherwise you'd have a one-life figure that could only hit one guy at a time, and likely wouldn't cost that much....making him seem weak.

[IAmBatman]

True, squadding them could give them more of that horde mentality too. Or it could be common heroes with bonding that allow some sort of horde movement/attack (though why not just make them a squad then, I suppose?)

[rdhight]

Remember, though, we haven't seen the power level of the X-Men yet. A lot of the X-Men customs on this board are big, high-mobility wrecking machines in the 200-and-up class. Plus Cyclops, Wolverine/Colossus etc. have various mutant boosts/synergies. Plus, to do Professor Xavier right, he'll need to have some serious support powers, perhaps extra-turn related. If the official X-Men are at that level, a Sentinel that you need two or three of those guys to bring down will truly be a monster. But if the designers decide to put most mutants in the 120-180 range, the Sentinels won't need to be so ridiculous.

[jcb231]

True, squadding them could give them more of that horde mentality too. Or it could be common heroes with bonding that allow some sort of horde movement/attack (though why not just make them a squad then, I suppose?)

LOL....exactly.

"See, what I want is a common group of one life figures....like multiple common heroes, but all activated together....ya got anything like that?"

:-P

[jcb231]

Remember, though, we haven't seen the power level of the X-Men yet. A lot of the X-Men customs on this board are big, high-mobility wrecking machines in the 200-and-up class. Plus Cyclops, Wolverine/Colossus etc. have various mutant boosts/synergies. Plus, to do Professor Xavier right, he'll need to have some serious support powers, perhaps extra-turn related. If the official X-Men are at that level, a Sentinel that you need two or three of those guys to bring down will truly be a monster. But if the deisgners decide to put most mutants in the 120-180 range, the Sentinels won't need to be so ridiculous.

Depends on how Craig and Chris and co see the Sentinels.

I think having a squad of two Sentinels roughly equal the strength of one strong X-man like Colossus is a good mix.

[IAmBatman]

I'd like to see the Sentinels be something like the destructible wall - they have tough armor with an auto shield or two that's bypassed by superstrength and maybe special attacks.

[Ursas]

I have been reading everyone's predictions and wishes and I thought about how this first set came out...

A 1/1 hero/villain ratio. I actually think I like that idea for expansions as well. instead of having a set based on a particular team ( i.e. FF, Avengers X-men, etc ) you could doa pack with 3 heroes and three villain counterparts. I think this would ensure more longevity and much better villains.


Examples might be...

Wolverine/Sabertooth
Daredevil/Bullseye
Thor/Loki

Just a thought

[IAmBatman]

I think six is a lot of figs to hope for in a booster pack (though I'd love to see it). I think 4 per pack might be a more realistic expectation. Which would mean waves of 16. I could certainly live with packs of 6 and waves of 24, though. :D
I'm hoping it's five per pack, though, and they're a bit more liberal about packaging, so that the first booster we see is the Fantastic 4 with that Superskrull fig we saw, and the second booster is all X-Men heroes.

[jcb231]

I like a one-to-one hero/villain ratio, and I think that would work for a while, but the numbers aren't even....eventually they are going to have to have heroes packed with heroes or villains packed with villains if the goal is to make all the major characters and notable supporters.

Spider-Man, for example, has a whole slew of popular villains yet he is only one man.

The X-men are sort of the opposite. There's a bunch of them but their well-known villains are far less.

[IAmBatman]

Sinester Six would make a great booster. :D

[hi1hi1hi1hi1]

I think they will keep the 1 to 1 ratio going. The figures will probably not be arch-rivals though. Like two X-men could come in the same expansion as two of Spiderman's enemies. Thats probably how it will happen.

[jcb231]

I think they will keep the 1 to 1 ratio going. The figures will probably not be arch-rivals though. Like two X-men could come in the same expansion as two of Spiderman's enemies. Thats probably how it will happen.

Probably.

[ej]

I think you could do Sentinels as a squad with the usual 1-life limitation if you simply make them have two or three automatic shields against both normal and special attacks, plus have a pretty high defense to begin with. In the comics you rarely see the heroes "wear them down", you usually see a high-power attack, or hitting a critical spot.

:oops: Whoops! Sorry, IAmBatman... I didn't see your post.

[Wytefang]

I'd like to see the Sentinels be something like the destructible wall - they have tough armor with an auto shield or two that's bypassed by superstrength and maybe special attacks.

Totally perfect thought. I fully concur with your opinion on this. I believe you will be proven correct. :)

[Ursas]

Instead of Sentinels with destructable walls, why not have them with a destructable Master Mold! Heck it could even be part of some expansion...

The "Sentinels Fortress" or some such name. I can imagine plenty of secenarios regarding this.