you like....

[shakey_snake]

what's you favorite:

[Aranas]

Had a dog for 15 years. They are good company!

[CupidsArt]

Well out of the 2 I like cats better, but in all honesty Fish are my favorite pets.



On a side note I had to get rid of Frankenstein (my Goldfish) at 7 inches he became too big for my 20 gallon tank :( :cry: , but it's all good he's got his own pond now, :D

[Gambit]

opps! that said niether, not nether, i misread it, oh wel....

[InfinityMax]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware, but inside cats are an absolutely horrible idea.

Now dogs - a dog will be loyal, loving, self-sacrificing, noble, and brave. Of course, his breath will smell like ass because he licks his testicles, but you can't have everything.

[netherspirit]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware, but inside cats are an absolutely horrible idea.

Now dogs - a dog will be loyal, loving, self-sacrificing, noble, and brave. Of course, his breath will smell like ass because he licks his testicles, but you can't have everything.

My cat is just as affectionate as a dog, after work everyday he is on my lap looking for some attention.

[Gambit]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware, but inside cats are an absolutely horrible idea.

Now dogs - a dog will be loyal, loving, self-sacrificing, noble, and brave. Of course, his breath will smell like ass because he licks his testicles, but you can't have everything.

i compleatly agree

[bad_calvin]

I prefer dogs but Own two cats. One is called Bugs (I call him Dumb cat). the other is called Spidey (I call her fatass).

I can't stand dumb animals. so Bugs I hate.

This is how you test if you have a dumb animal.

Point in a direction

If the animal sniffs (or looks) at your finger, it is dumb.
IF the animal looks to see what you are pointing at, it is smart.

[shakey_snake]

I prefer dogs but Own two cats. One is called Bugs (I call him Dumb cat). the other is called Spidey (I call her fatass).

I can't stand dumb animals. so Bugs I hate.

This is how you test if you have a dumb animal.

Point in a direction

If the animal sniffs (or looks) at your finger, it is dumb.
IF the animal looks to see what you are pointing at, it is smart.:lol:

[Gambit]

I prefer dogs but Own two cats. One is called Bugs (I call him Dumb cat). the other is called Spidey (I call her fatass).

I can't stand dumb animals. so Bugs I hate.

This is how you test if you have a dumb animal.

Point in a direction

If the animal sniffs (or looks) at your finger, it is dumb.
IF the animal looks to see what you are pointing at, it is smart.

my dog is reeeally dum then

[K/H_Addict]

i despise cats (except my g/f....she thinks she was a cat in a past life or soemthing.....). I love kittens though, but when they grow up they're like f**k off as*hole.let me sit here all day and lick myself.

Dogs, on the other hand will never ditch you for self-licking, and love to play for all their life, rather than just their infant years.

When i move out, i am going to get a baby husky and name him Felix and raise him and love him and pet him and feed him and care for him and...........play with him....i cant wait


my g/f wants to get a wiener dog and name it Oscar...and a chihuahua and name it Taco

[Gambit]

my g/f wants to get a wiener dog and name it Oscar...and a chihuahua and name it Taco


:puke:

[djsmith]

CATS RULE! DOGS ARE COOL TOO, BUT CATS RULE. I VOLUNTEER AT A NO KILL CAT SHELTER IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING.

[shakey_snake]

my g/f wants to get a wiener dog and name it Oscar...and a chihuahua and name it Taco


:puke:QFT. little dogs are worse than cats.

[djsmith]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware,

So you think cats are like some old roommates of mine then! :D

[InfinityMax]

QFT. little dogs are worse than cats.

Absolutely and without reservation. Little dogs are undeserving drains on the air supply. They have absolutely no reason to exist. A cat may hate you, but at least he's cool, with his acrobatics and portable deadly weapons and a go-to-hell attitude. A little dog, on the other hand, can't jump, has ***** little dull claws and stupid little teeth, and wants to hump your leg but can't reach past your knee.

And yipping - what is that? It's like the little bastard wants to bark, but has a chew toy stuck in his esophagus.

Give me a big ol' loyal mutt, 60-90 pounds, who can scare the crap out of burglars, run off trespassers, sleep on the bed when my wife's out of town, and give little kids piggyback rides. Now that's a companion.

[ultradoug]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware, but inside cats are an absolutely horrible idea.

Now dogs - a dog will be loyal, loving, self-sacrificing, noble, and brave. Of course, his breath will smell like ass because he licks his testicles, but you can't have everything.

My cat is just as affectionate as a dog, after work everyday he is on my lap looking for some attention.

did you vote "neither"

[Gambit]

I hate cats. Worthless, pointless, destructive, sociopathic little vermin. They're fine if they're outside, where they can't tear up your couch and pee in your Tupperware, but inside cats are an absolutely horrible idea.

Now dogs - a dog will be loyal, loving, self-sacrificing, noble, and brave. Of course, his breath will smell like ass because he licks his testicles, but you can't have everything.

My cat is just as affectionate as a dog, after work everyday he is on my lap looking for some attention.

did you vote "neither"

no, i voted neiter because i thought it said nether at first

[shakey_snake]

QFT. little dogs are worse than cats.

Absolutely and without reservation. Little dogs are undeserving drains on the air supply. They have absolutely no reason to exist. A cat may hate you, but at least he's cool, with his acrobatics and portable deadly weapons and a go-to-hell attitude. A little dog, on the other hand, can't jump, has ***** little dull claws and stupid little teeth, and wants to hump your leg but can't reach past your knee.

And yipping - what is that? It's like the little bastard wants to bark, but has a chew toy stuck in his esophagus.

Give me a big ol' loyal mutt, 60-90 pounds, who can scare the crap out of burglars, run off trespassers, sleep on the bed when my wife's out of town, and give little kids piggyback rides. Now that's a companion.
I have this theory.
You see, dogs were bred into terriers to kill rats in small places. This was necessary for humans because These were the rats that carried the flees that carried the Bubonic plague. Well, when the plague went away, all the pain and evil it caused was transfered to the "personalities" of these half-**** terriers.

As long as toy dogs are with us, so is the plague.

[Su-Bak-Na]

I like cats much less work, all of my friends dogs are so hyper it gets anoying very quikly.

[markwars]

I want to type a response but I just can't bring myself to waste brain cells on it.

I did get a good laugh from Shakey Snake's post though. Thanks.

[vernz]

i like all animals i have 2 cats and a turtle right now i want a dog but i have enough right now

[NiteRaider]

I'm allergic to cats and dog, so neither.

[Gambit]

rubber chickens and inflatible hamsters

[Revdyer]

I have a 100 pound black labrador and a 20 pound rat terrier and a Maine Coon cat, at present.

In the past we've had hamsters, gerbils, boas, geckos, and fish.

The big black dog saved my life, so he has a pass forever at our house.

But I'll never let a monkey or a bird voluntarily in my home.

[shakey_snake]

The big black dog saved my life, so he has a pass forever at our house.
please do tell.

[Revdyer]

Oh, I got the lab as a six month old puppy, from the Humane Society. The way I picked him out (getting a dog after the loss of a 17 year companion dog) as to walk along the cages with my hand brushing the gates. Most dogs jumped and barked, and I didn't want that. A few cowered, and I wasn't up for dog psychology. This lab licked my hand and I said, "That's your ticket home." Anyway, I soon discovered that a young lab needs a LOT of exercise, so I began walking him each day about two miles over fairly steep hills. As it turned out, several months of that exercise had me in better shape than I'd been in in years (mid-50s age, you see). So, when I was diagnosed with colon cancer (April 2004) and had to have surgery, my surgeon said, "Geez, you are in great cardio shape!" That made the surgery and recovery fairly easy and the risk of the operation was greatly reduced, just because the dog had taken me for so many walks.

When, a year later, I was diagnosed with a second cancer (non-Hodgekin's lymphoma) I'd fully recovered from the surgery and had no trace of the colon cancer, and the dog, again, had made sure I was exercising. The particular chemotherapy best for my illness requires a strong heart, as the chemo drugs can destroy heart tissue if the heart does not completely empty with each beat. Mine was, again, strong because of the walking with the dog. During those times when I was doing chemotherapy or recovering from surgery, he (name: Ralph) was incredibly gentle. When I started to get stronger, he'd bug me to get out and exercise. He nagged me much more than my wife, in fact.

So, that is why I say the dog saved my life. The companionship and joy of the dog also aided and speeded my healing, I do believe.

Incidently, I'm fine now, in full remission. I have to have chemo one month out of every six for the next couple of years, but it isn't too bad. And HeroScape is a great way to pass the time when I can't get out because of the chemo and to have friends in.

[[[ Sorry to ramble on so. I'm sure this is much more than anyone wants to know about me. ]]]

[NiteRaider]

Wow, that's an incredible story!

[Revdyer]

Way too wordy, I'm afraid, NiteRaider, but, at least, I didn't get all preachy. <grin>

[Oprime]

Fact.

Dogs need to be taught. Cats learn by observation.

Who do you think is "smarter"?

Cats rule!

[Parduz]

Fact.

Dogs need to be taught. Cats learn by observation.

Who do you think is "smarter"?

Cats rule!
Oohhh, finally!
So this is the reason!

I work in an little office, we are 3 programmers, Boss included. I now know why the Boss cat sleeps all the days, 22h on 24....
She can only see sitting ppl, she is not enough smart to understand what to learn :)

LOL

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Well out of the 2 I like cats better, but in all honesty Fish are my favorite pets.
On a side note I had to get rid of Frankenstein (my Goldfish) at 7 inches he became too big for my 20 gallon tank :( :cry: , but it's all good he's got his own pond now, :D

Eh. Dogs for me, but I agree with you, CA - fish are excellent pets. I deal only in hardy, cheap goldfish and dojo (weather) Loaches. Nothing funner than the Loaches.

During the rainy season, I let my students bring in earthworms they've found during recess to feed to the goldfish and loaches. The fish LOVE earthworms!!! Some even get in a tug-o-war, lady and the Tramp situations! :lol:

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

Dogs are chewy and cats taste gamey...so I guess neither.

[gibberish_47]

We had an insane cat on our farm. It didn't live too long. :twisted:

We've had many stray cats come up to our patio. That didn't turn out too well either.

Our dog can tell the differnce between my BB gun, bolt .22 that I use for shooting shotshells, and my semi-auto .22 for varmin hunting. He loves the BB gun, barks when he sees the bolt but doesn't run, and cowers in the garage when he sees my semi. I think he's pretty smart. :D

[NiteRaider]

Yeah, the dog is pretty smart.

[shakey_snake]

Fact.

Dogs need to be taught. Cats learn by observation.

Who do you think is "smarter"?

Cats rule!

Cats learn what by observation?
I've never seen a cat show signs of learning anything.

[Rhydderch]

I like Chinchillas at the moment. They are somewhat dumb but easy to take care of because they are a cage animal and clean themselves as long as you provide a dust bath. They are the size of a small cat and have the softest fur. They are borderline affectionate - rodents are not very touchy feely! :P

Otherwise I'm a cat person even though they would probably eat both the hamsters I have and possibly the chinchillas too!

[django]

I prefer dogs but Own two cats. One is called Bugs (I call him Dumb cat). the other is called Spidey (I call her fatass).

I can't stand dumb animals. so Bugs I hate.

This is how you test if you have a dumb animal.

Point in a direction

If the animal sniffs (or looks) at your finger, it is dumb.
IF the animal looks to see what you are pointing at, it is smart.

what if your dog looks in the opposite direction that you pointed. :?

[NiteRaider]

Then it's really stupid.

[Agent Minivann]

Fact.

Dogs need to be taught. Cats learn by observation.

Who do you think is "smarter"?

Cats rule!

Cats learn what by observation?
I've never seen a cat show signs of learning anything.

I'm not sure on this one. Right after we got him, our cat would see my son coming up to him (son 18-24 month old range) and not move. The boy was pretty mean to the cat, as can be expected from a toddler, but the cat never moved. The only thing he learned was to flinch. Same thing when my son had a cast and the little slaps became strikes with a blunt object; the cat would flinch but not move. To this day ( seven years now) the stupid thing won't move when something like a toddler or infant approaches. Sure if he takes enough punishment he'll bite, but that is rare.

I didn't care much for the dog we had either, but that may be because it was a big dog for our place that we couldn't keep outside. So that's a neither for me as far as pets. If it is just watching animals on something like a documentary, or nature show, then I'd have to go for cats, really big cats (read: tiger, panther, etc., but not including lions).

[Oprime]

Fact.

Dogs need to be taught. Cats learn by observation.

Who do you think is "smarter"?

Cats rule!

Cats learn what by observation?
I've never seen a cat show signs of learning anything.

1st example.
Dogs need to be trained to eliminate outside.
It takes months of training and often they have relapses.
Cats will learn to use a litter box simply by watching mom do it.

2nd example
Wolves take thier young on hunts and include them in the process, essentially teaching them to hunt.
Lions do not allow thier young to join the hunt because they are inexpierienced and will screw it up. The young lay a safe distance away and observe the lionesses hunting thereby learning the technique.

I could give more but I dont feel like wasting the energy.

[Revdyer]

Ralph, a pretty good dog.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/Revdyer/000_0203.jpg

[Havokscry]

Cat's are far less work. Every kitten that I ever had was litter box trained when I got them. Can't say the same for the dogs I've been around. Last thing I want to do is take a dog out for a walk and pick his or her crap up, after they've finished their business.

[shakey_snake]

1st example.
Dogs need to be trained to eliminate outside. It takes months of training and often they have relapses.Properly housebreaking a puppy doesn't take more than a 2-3 weeks, including any "relapse periods".

Cats will learn to use a litter box simply by watching mom do it.
Yeah, because the litter box is inside the house, and mom's around. That's totally different than learning to control your bowels and bladder until someone lets you outside. If you put a kitten's litterbox in a corner in the basement and it usually spends most of it's time upstairs, a kitten will **** all over the place.

And I don't think I really have to go into how much more harmful bacteria live in cat feces than dog feces do I? Your cat knows it. Cats instinctively bury their feces in their litter boxes because they're scared ****less by their own ****.

2nd example
Wolves take thier young on hunts and include them in the process, essentially teaching them to hunt.
Lions do not allow thier young to join the hunt because they are inexpierienced and will screw it up. The young lay a safe distance away and observe the lionesses hunting thereby learning the technique.
There's a good reason for this too. Dogs can't screw up a hunt. African Wild Dogs chase their pray until exhaustion. No real stalking or crap needed, they just run. It's a way more successful tactic and way more energy efficient.
I could give more but I dont feel like wasting the energy.You could have a lot more interesting pet (aka A DOG) but, you probably wouldn't want to waste your energy.

That where I really think cats have their niche. People who think they want a pet, but don't want one enough to spend time or energy with the pet.
Might as well have a stuffed animal.


I agree with you fish guys. I have a 6 gallon tank of Tiger Barbs. They're very entertaining.


http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2479/mill7gh.png
This is my Gordon Setter, Millie.

[Oprime]

curious, your basis for info on 2-3 weeks for training a puppy.

I see probably 'bout 20 on a weekly basis, any individual puppy once or twice a month.
All until they are about 4 months of age. then generally see them again around 6-8 months.

granted most puppys should be fully trained by 4 months. The best method being crate training.

Oh and how is running until your prey and probably youself are exhausted MORE energy efficient?

I dont wanna start a flame war so Ive said my peace.
I was merely responding to a question posed.

FYI: I love Dogs they are great pets thats why I've been a CVT for 15 years.

[K/H_Addict]

I'm allergic to cats and dog, so neither.

what else are you allergic to? I used to be allergic to nearly every animal with fur. The only animal i wasnt allergic to was rabbit. I have never been fishing because i'm allergic to fish (seafood mainly, but my mom doesn't wanna take the risk...)

I had a small dog (not sure of the breed) for like 2 years...he had hair loss on his rump, and my dad had him put down.

I hat a cat. I was allergic to it, so we gave it to my cousin, who gave it to their friends to help with mice, and they let it get hit by a car. Assholes.

I had a guinea pig for about 9 years. He died of old age. It was a Mother's Day gift (from my dad, sis and me to my mother, obviously). He was my favorite Pet.

I also had a Beta Fish for like 9 months then it died....oh and a series of goldfish that didnt last longer than 2 days....

Like i said, when i move out i'm going to get a Siberian Husky (as young as possible) and raise it. I cant wait!

[shakey_snake]

Running the prey until the prey is exhausted.
AWD's will even chase the prey in relays. And when the prey is exhausted, AWD's don't have to worry about being injured. They get a meal nearly every time the go hunting, unlike the big cats.

We got Millie when she was 10 weeks old. Whenever she'd have an accident, we'd rub her nose in it, tell her her "no", go to the door, ring the bell that was on the door and take her outside. After a weeks time, anytime she had to go, she'd go to the door and ring the bell with her nose. We couldn't lolly-gag around as she wasn't the greatest at holding it yet, but she understood the program. A week later, she didn't have any more accidents in the house.
Anytime no one was home or at night time, she was in her crate.

So yeah, she was 3 months old at the time, but it was only 2 weeks worth of training. Hardly your stated "months of training with often relapses". You don't have to be Cesar Millan or anything to have a obedient dog, just a little effort and consistency. My dad owns a pet store, and I've also met my share of dogs while working there. You know which dogs will have behavioral problems just by meeting the owners.

I also wasn't trying to start a flame war, I just really don't understand cats or 'cat people' at all. And how anyone could claim that cats are "smarter" is beyond me. They might be more instinctive, and more convenient for urbanites and the really busy, but the ability to learn like dogs do is a vastly superior intelligence. What makes us the most intelligent species on the planet, is our unmatched learning abilities.

[Havokscry]

Dog's will eat cat crap out of the litter box. Do you see a cat eating a dog's crap? :wink:

[shakey_snake]

I've seen cats do it.
It's just outside so people notice it less often. And I think the dogpile needs to be kinda warm.

[NiteRaider]

I'm allergic to cats and dog, so neither.

what else are you allergic to? I used to be allergic to nearly every animal with fur. The only animal i wasnt allergic to was rabbit. I have never been fishing because i'm allergic to fish (seafood mainly, but my mom doesn't wanna take the risk...)Pretty much anything with fur except giraffe and buffalo. I had two beta fish that lasted for a little over a year.