Traveling base molds

[josh-n-papa]

I am ready to send out version 3!.
As we all know from back on HQ, I made a set of plastic molds to cast bases for customs out of cheap,readily available fiberglass resin.

This is the resin.It costs about $10.95 a can at Walmart or where-ever auto supplies are sold.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/fiberglass_resin.jpg

You should probably grab an extra tube of hardener for a dollar,you get one with the resin,but I usually needed extra.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/extra_hardener.jpg

The only problem with the first molds was they broke after they got to like the second guy.They were doomed to break,it was a design flaw.
About that time the thread went missing in action because of the server change,so I kept waiting for it to come back before I made a new set.Then HQ died,so I procrastinated a little longer.
Now that it seems we have all settled into our new home,I have finally got around to making a new set-version 3(There was a version 2 but I had a disagreement with it and it does not exist anymore).

Improvements to version 3 include 4 different sizes.large single space,small single space,large double space,and small double space.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/base_sizes.jpg

Also on version 3, we have kick-out pins!(no more bending to get the parts out :D )Once the parts are hardened just tap on the pin on the bottom side of the mold and you parts pop right out.The pins usually stay stuck to the part but you can easily snap it loose with your fingers(please do not use pliers on the pins...it will leave rough marks on the pin and tear up the pocket it presses into)
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/pins.jpg

Here is a picture of the molds empty
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/empty_molds.jpg

Here is a picture of the molds with the pins inserted
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/pins_inserted2.jpg

Here is a bottom view to show how the pins stick out the bottom
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/pins_inserted_bottom_view.jpg

Here is what the molds look like full of resin
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/filled_molds%7E0.JPG

Fresh molded bases.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10081/freshly_molded.jpg

There are 32 oz in a quart,and to fill both molds it takes almost 4 oz(maybe someone more careful than me can get by with less)So I estimateyou should get about 32 large single bases,64 small single bases,32 large double bases,and 16 small double bases out of one can of resin.

I don't remeber who was on the list,I think Bad Calvin was next,But I have not seen him around lately.It would be nice if we could retrieve the old list.I intend to send them to Hahnarama first,cause back when the first molds went out I promised him in a PM that if they got lost or ruined I would make a new set.
Hahn! check your PM box!

^^^This post under construction^^^
There are things I like about these new molds and things I don't really care for,I will try to go over them when I edit this post to try write a how-to.I am going to go ahead and click submit anyway and then come back later and add stuff.
josh-n-papa

HOW TO
First of all you need to find a well ventilated place to do this,as this stuff dries and cures it gives off fumes.

Next,you need to lay lots of newspapers down,cause it's messy.

Get youself a measuring cup and put 4 oz. of water in it. Pour the water into whatever you plan to use to mix the resin(the mixing cup that comes with the can is too small)and make a mark with magic marker so you know how full to fill it.Dump water out.Dry mixing cup.I used a plastic drink cup made out of a real flexible plastic,so that I could bend it to get the hardened extra resin from the last batch out.

Now that your mixing cup is ready lay the molds on the table.Firmly press kick-out pins into their pockets until the top of the pin is flush with the bottom of the mold cavity.The skinny end of the pin should now be protruding out the bottom of the mold.If a pin seems unduly loose in it's pocket,try switching it around with one that seems tight.When all the pins are in,you are ready to mix the resin.

To mix the resin,simply pour the resin into your cup to the fill line,and add 11 drops of hardener per oz of resin.We are doing 4 oz.,so we need 44 drops.The amount of drops is not critical,so a few drops plus or minus isn't going to matter.FoeHammer back on HQ,who I felt was pretty experienced with this kind of stuff,said that the resin is very forgiving.He also saidIf you get the hardener in your eyes it will blind youSo it would also probably be a good idea to wear some eye protection........ Stir resin and pour into the molds.
Now this is the part I don't particularly care for,the original molds had tops that made the bottom nice and consistantly flat,but it did not let the bubbles settle out.Without using the tops you have to be real careful how full you fill the molds,if you don't fill them enough...the bottom of your bases will be slightly concave.If you put in too much....the bottom of your bases will be slightly convex.It just comes down too practicing on a couple of batches until you get a feel of how full to fill the molds.
Possibly GrungeBob or Imax can chime in with a more specific method here,cause I don't have an exact science to give you.

Once you have filled the molds to your satisfaction,let them dry for about an hour.Tap on the bottom of the pin with something gently until the part pops out.Try to tap the double base pins evenly,if you only tap only one pin on the doubles it can crack your part sometimes.
Repeat until all parts are out.Most of the time the pin is going to remain stuck to your part.You can get them off by firmly snap the pin sideways with your fingers.Please do not use pliers on the pins because it will leave rough marks on the pin that will tear up the pin pockets.

Clean up the excess hard resin from the molds.You can use a metal putty knife,but please be careful not to damage the mold pockets.If you gouge the insides of the pockets(the part that forms your bases)it is going to show up on your parts.

Repeat the process until you have all the extra bases you need.[/b]

[InfinityMax]

Wow! I almost wish I needed more bases! Great work, JnP. It's really great of you to do all this work.

[shakey_snake]

yey there back!

[Doustin]

The originals I got (I think from IMax) were great. I may have to get myself on the waiting list and try my own this time, especially now that it should be a bit easier.

[dickflea]

Oh man those are kick *#$ bases. I wish i had some ideas for custom models.

[skyknight]

I would love to get my hands on some extra bases, do you trade or sell them. I wish I was able to do that :(

[Agent Minivann]

Skyknight, I have some extra bases laying around. How many do you want/need? Shoot me a PM, or I'm in the chat room right now.

[LilNewbie]

Nice job on the improvements, J-n-P! I thought the originals were great. These newer molds are even better!

Newb.

[josh-n-papa]

Skynight,I guess I should have explained better for newer members that might not have seen the original thread.I 'm giving the mold to the community.That is why it is called traveling base mold,kind of like a gypsy wandering from member to member.I thought it would be neat to watch them travel around the country.
Any one may use it as long as they agree to send it along to the next guy who wants to use it when they are done.If someone wants to make extras for other members who would rather just pay someone else to do the molding,that's cool.I would however think it extremely "uncool" for some E-Bay bob to set himself up in business on e-bay using the molds I donated to the community.
There was a list on who was next,but sadly it died with HQ,I guess somebody needs to start a new list,not me.After I send these on their way I relinquish all control of them,they belong to the community.Like I said I intend to semd them tol Hahnarama first.I think Bad Calvin was next on the list,but lately he seems to be MIA.

[Hahnarama]

josh-n-papa (sorry about the publis post)

I just got your PM today. I have tried to reply back to it but I am not sure if it is going through.

E-mail me directly if you can.

Thx,

Hahn

[InfinityMax]

The ideal of the traveling mold is great - you wait your turn, you get to make some molds, you pass them on like the Sisterhood and their pants. The problem is, some people are A) unable to cast stuff in resin, or B) would rather just pay for a few.

When I had the molds, I made a few batches for people who were in either A or B camps. I made some for Doc Savage, too, but that was just because he kicks ass. When I made them for others, I charged a few bucks for shipping and a little for the resin. I also limited it to something like 2 batches, because I didn't want to profit, and if someone needed more, they just had to pony up and wait for the molds.

So anyway, if anyone just wants a few molds, maybe someone who gets the molds can hook them up. I think I did like 5 bucks for 20 bases, and wouldn't sell any more than that.

[Hahnarama]

OK just a quick note. I will get my bases done ASAP as soon as I get the molds, sometime next week. I am not sure what the mail schd is for the week of 7/4, but I will mail these on to the next person.

Josh, what is the ratio of resin to hardener? I know G Bob had some issues with bubbles when he tried to make the very first set of molds.

And I have to say these new molds look AWESOME! You put a lot of hard work into them. You R-O-C-K my friend.

[Bixby]

I was on the list to BUY some molds. If someone would be so kind to make an extra set, I would gladly pay all out of pocket costs and some coin to fund your future HeroScape addictions.

Let me know via PM or email if anyone is willing to do that. It also saves on the delay in having the base molds travel to Canada and back. Sometimes customs introduces som nice delays.

-Bix

[skyknight]

Could I please be on that list, I really need to make some molds, thoguMinivan is hookin me up to begin with. Please add me in line if you could Josh. Thanks :D

[robaula]

Could do with some extra bases myself - been using Games Workshop bases, but they are a bit smaller than the standard size Heroscape bases. The other method I was using to get more bases was getting rather expensive - buying extra figures just for the bases.

[josh-n-papa]

Edited the first post with a HOW-TO,sort of .I did the best I could.

I no longer have or want control of these.It us up to the people interested in using them to use the honor system of who gets them next and to send them on to the next guy.Someone back on HQ kept the list updated on who wanted them and who would just like to pay for some.
Like I said,I had promised Hahn that I would make a new set when the first ones broke,that's why I sent them to him first.I'm pretty sure Bad Calvin was next on the old list.I was going to send them on to Bad Calvin when I traded for some of his bridges(which are awesome by the way!)but I did not get them done in time.I haven't seen B Calvin around for awhile so I decided to send them to Hahn.

[Doc_Savage]

josh-n-papa you are awesome to put that much work into something you are just giving to the world. If people take care, that looks like it will last a long time.

As Imax said, I got some bases from the 1st mold and they are great. A little sanding, a little primer, a little testors pro "light earth" spray paint and a matte clear coat and you are good to go.

I put little circles of masking tape under the bases when I painted to keep them from flying from the force of the spray paint; it also lifted them off the surface so the edges didn't blob up.

In my thread you can see some figures with the old mold bases - Migoi, Bodvar...

[skyknight]

HAhn could you send that my way next please :P

[Hahnarama]

OK the base molds are IN THE HOUSE!

The pictures can't begin to describe how much skill J-N-P put into these.

I am going to "try" and get started tomorrow evening on my casts. I need to experiement on how much resin to pour. I am only going to use the large Single and Double bases. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[Hahnarama]

OK I had a conf that I took from home this AM, so I deceided to mix up my first "test" batch and see how it goes.

A few hits.

GLOVES No matter how hard you try you will get messy. I am using some latex ones.

A FLAT level surface.

GOGGLES,
GOGGLES,
GOGGLES, No reason to loose you sight.

I mixed 4 oz and I had some left in the cup so I will see how this first batch went. I am pretty sure I have some good level fills. And you will need a new mixing cup each time. I am going to use my as the test to make sure the resin is complete hard.

And as Lloyd Bridges would say "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue" Make sure you do this out side in the garage with the doors open.

49 minutes and counting.

PS I had some issues getting the hardener bottle open I think the opening I made was too big so I adjusted the number of drops to about 25-30. We'll see.

[Hahnarama]

I've had time to brew two batches today. The first batch was a learning one. About 6 of the single bases did not set. I think I did not mix the goo enough before. So the 2nd time I mixed for a full minute. It made all the difference. it's pretty easy and they just look so kick ass. The knock out pins are a nice touch. Just a few very light taps from a hammer and they pop right out.

I wish I had time to buy a 2nd can of "goo" and make enough bases to last me a lifetime.

From the beware section. The left over goo in the cup will continue to have a chemical reaction. I wrapped mine in a few trash bags and then in a box. Some of the Goo still managed to eat through one of the bags.

[robaula]

Hey... how about someone setting up some travelling molds in the UK?

[Widigo]

Ya we need base molds in the Under Kindgom, also in the Underwhare Kastle, and we also need to make bases in Utopian Kollosus, (a rilly big town outside of nosturlund)

[Widigo]

sorry that siunded funnier at 3 in the morning when coffie ran out at 1.

[bunjee]

Oh man, I would love to be on the list to get the mold, or to buy a bunch of finished product from someone. I have a bunch of stuff I want to get good looking bases on. Hey! maybe we could have a base making party during Gencon. Oh, wait, no free time, right!

[Widigo]

I might have said this already, but what about a base, that has molds for Markers, Glyphs, Turn Markers, water tiles, real tiles, Oh, and my favorite, the bases to the pine trees. It would be awesome to have a hindread extra glyphs, or real hard fit-on-the-hexes bases for cutom trees and such. The tiles and water tiles would be a little ambitous and I do not know how you would make the gorrvs, but if anyone could it would be you Papa. I just wounderd, 'cause I have plenty of extra bases, so I started thinking of other stuff the community (ok me actualy) needs. Maybe we could take Hasbro right out of the picture, make a new game called JoshScape. (OK I was joking about that part),but we do need other things, the glyphs and tree bases are something I think people would use. I would say dice but that would put you out of bisyness.

[robaula]

Good thinking, Widigo. Would be ace if someone made a professional mould of land hexes, it would be *VERY* popular and useful. Reckon if Hasbro got whiff of it though, they would start kicking up a fuss...

[skyknight]

Hahn, am I next in line for these?

[Widigo]

They would, but with all of my money the CEO could go retire in the Bahamas. I know the land ones are near imposable, but water (lava, snow, tar, blood, whatever you wanted) would be a really popular one, so would glyphs for those of us that customize them, you could make like fifty glyphs and never have to ruin you originals. Ruins I did not think of that one that would be awesome. The tree bases are a big deal, people would not have to glue there stuff to hexes, thus making a fully changeable set of whatever, snow, swamp, anything would be cheep and easy, 'cause you could do a big field without having to spent hexes on terrain.

[josh-n-papa]

molds for Markers, Glyphs, Turn Markers, water tiles, real tiles

It would be cheaper and easier to buy these things from HouseMouse.

As for terrain,I'm 98% percent sure I could make injection molds for them,if I had access to an elox machine and a wire EDM.But we are talking about a pretty sophisticated die that would have to run on a plastic injection machine.To do all this and get the cost down to what you can purchase an extra master set for,you would have to have a run of thousands of pieces.I'm pretty sure Hasbro would frown on that :wink:

I made these molds because you can't buy bases seperate.
Since a lot of the newer guys never read the threads on .NET and HQ,I got the idea from the guys(Infinity Max,Chameleon,and somebody else??) that were using rubber molds to make water tiles.The materials to do that looked kind of expensive, so I made my molds out of an old cutting board and used cheap inexpensive fiberglass resin I could get locally.
When I was done with them I offered them to the community to use.

As for making another set to send overseas....? That is probably not going to happen.Your best bet would be to get someone mold you some extras and send them to you.Or possibly send the molds themselves across the puddle.But I would think the shipping cost and import tarrifs would be kind of costly.I don't know....it would be neat to see them travel around the world :)

[robaula]

Guess at the moment I will keep painting and putting stickers on my old Games Workshop bases then! :lol:

[josh-n-papa]

Guess at the moment I will keep painting and putting stickers on my old Games Workshop bases then! :lol:

All hope is not lost!Try asking InfinityMax for details about how to make a rubber mold.It is just going to be a little costlier than using this one for free :)

[robaula]

Thanks josh-n-papa, I will follow up that advice!

[skyknight]

Hey Josh do you know who is next in line?

[Hahnarama]

Sorry for the late reply...I haven't been following this thread like I should.

The molds are currently in Virginia Beach, and I hope to have them back here in Indy in time to had off to some of the GenCon Crew.

J-N-P told me he was not going to be involved where they were going next, but I am willing to step up and be the keeper of the list. I will put you on it. Anyone else who would like to use the molds please send me a PM.

Try and remember this. Though it's pretty easy to make these bad boys it's a very time consuming process. It took me just over an hour per set. The most I ever made in one night was two sets. I am guessing it will take the average person a 7-9 days to get a full set done, so if you are on the list try and be patient.

I will post later on about my experience, and a few pictures of finished pieces.

[Doc_Savage]

If anyone who gets these molds would make me a few of the large bases - both 2-space and single space I would greatly appreciate it.

I would gladly pay postage and a couple of bucks....

[skyknight]

Sorry for the late reply...I haven't been following this thread like I should.

The molds are currently in Virginia Beach, and I hope to have them back here in Indy in time to had off to some of the GenCon Crew.

J-N-P told me he was not going to be involved where they were going next, but I am willing to step up and be the keeper of the list. I will put you on it. Anyone else who would like to use the molds please send me a PM.

Try and remember this. Though it's pretty easy to make these bad boys it's a very time consuming process. It took me just over an hour per set. The most I ever made in one night was two sets. I am guessing it will take the average person a 7-9 days to get a full set done, so if you are on the list try and be patient.

I will post later on about my experience, and a few pictures of finished pieces.

Yeah that sounds like a great idea, since I asked in like post three of this thread :roll: Anyways I do not need them anymore. I am not going to wait for these to get passed around on the good ol boy circuit before I get them, so I have gone ahead and made wooden ones with Malechi's stickers ( you rock Malechi) Thanks anyways

[Hahnarama]

Sorry you're upset dude but I meant nothing by it. Charles e-mailed me directly and asked for them. He is making a set for him and his daughter and another for a buddy of his.

I've been waiting paSorry you're upset dude but I meant nothing by it. Charles e-mailed me directly and asked for them. He is making a set for him and his daughter and another for a buddy of his. Then getting them back so I can had then off to someone else @ GC, who I am sure will send them to the next person who needs them. So far the demand is not that great.

I've been waiting patiently for these since the first set. I know Bad Calvin was also on the old list, but I have not heard him speak up yet.

J-N-P donated his time and effort so anyone who wants to can make bases. He just doesn’t want to be involved in the list. I offered to step up. I used them and sent them on their way.

And as long as we are counting it was post 6 not 3.

[skyknight]

I'm not that mad boss, was just a little dissapointed is all. You are managing to keep up with the thread a little better though now :wink:

[Hahnarama]

Dude send me your address so I can get you on the list.

trust me it's worth the wait.

I hope to post some pictures of re based figures later today.

-Hahn

[Malechi]

Yeah that sounds like a great idea, since I asked in like post three of this thread :roll: Anyways I do not need them anymore. I am not going to wait for these to get passed around on the good ol boy circuit before I get them, so I have gone ahead and made wooden ones with Malechi's stickers ( you rock Malechi) Thanks anyways

Of course I do! As Hahnarama stated, they are wth the wait! They have the look and feel (by weight, not the hollow interior) of the real deal.

As for your mention of "good ol boy circuit", that implies nepotism. Although, I am not part of this casting of the resin traveling road show, I have taken notice of the hoopla as the bases go hand in hand with my base stickers. A lot of people have jumped up and screamed they want the molds now! Others wait patiently for their turn. But, as far as I could tell, the bases moved in the original order set up long ago back at HQ.

For those inclined to be the "jumpers and screamers", this may seem like a very long time indeed. Everyone must remember two things, as Hahnarama pointed out the bases take some time to make and the fact that this is the second mold set. J-n-P was nice enough to create a new set after the original set was destroyed.

So be nice and polite in the queue. When you do get the molds, be courteous by using them promptly and carefully. Once you are done send them to the next person on the list as quickly as you can, they are waiting as you once were.

[skyknight]

I was not jumping and screaming but Josh said the original list was lost, though he knew Bad calvin was on it but had dissappeared. That is pretty much when I asked. Sometime between then and now another list developed. Again I really am not mad, I have been making them out of wood and your design and they look really nice. The other cool thing is that I can make them a bit bigger this way to fit bigger critters on it. I do appreciate the offer Hahn but I am good. Thanks though, everything is good boss. :P

[Malechi]

I was not jumping and screaming ...

I did not, in any way, mean you specifically in my above statement. It is just the general reaction by those when they first happen across this thread and its previous incarnations.

[skyknight]

ooooohhhh, ok :lol: I still like the base template though you Graphic stud you :P

[Hahnarama]

Kinght.....send me your address you knuckle head :P so I can get you on the list.

[skyknight]

Alright. here it comes

[jcb231]

I would be willing to pay a little for the resin and shipping if anyone wants to make me some bases and labels to go on them.

I don't really have the willingness to do the whole molding process myself....nor the time.

PM me if anyone is willing to do this when they get the mold.

[fuzzysadist]

I'd like to get on the waiting list please!!!

[fuzzysadist]

Do the molds still exist?
Does the waiting list still exist?
Can I get on the list?

Thanks!

[Hahnarama]

Last I heard they were still in Seattle, and then onto Skyknight.

[fuzzysadist]

Aaaaahhhh Man!
I'm IN seattle!
So close and yet so far!

Any idea who's got them? Maybe I can convince them to knock me out a few bases before the send it on its way.

[Bixby]

I would still be interested in paying for someone to make me a batch (or two) and ship them to me. I am more than happy to re-imburse all costs and pay extra more your time & effort...

...let me know.

[bunjee]

I'm going to be working with them this weekend after a heinous delay. My apologies. Fuzzy, I'll make extra for you since you are local, or drop me a line and we can make it a party.

[fuzzysadist]

That would be great. I know brotheraaron on here is interested as well. Thanks bunjee!!

[Doc_Savage]

I just picked up 2 new MS at TRU so at this time I don't need any one to make me more bases :).

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

I need bases, and I'm in Seattle. Thanks!

[Zeek]

Any idea what happened to these?

[deathsaurx]

Their traveling, hence the name 'Traveling Base Molds.'

[bunjee]

Their next destination is Skynight, they are currently with FuzzySadist as he is just up the road from me.
After Skyknight, they would go to:
Doustin (in NH) if he still needs them
Fuzzie Fuzz (in Seattle) (I can get you a few bases to tide you over)
Zeek (in OH)

Some people that mentioned interest in just bases:
Bixby(just send bases)
robaula(just send bases)
jcb231(just send bases with labels on)

If I've missed anything, or if anyone has questions about this, mention it soon please.

[deathsaurx]

I could use some bases too...

[fuzzysadist]

Cooking up my first batch as we speak... wasnt so hard :)

Fuzzy

[bunjee]

I could use some bases too...does this mean you would like to be on the list? Otherwise, you'll have to ask someone nicely to make some for you and get re-imbursed.

[ikkyu142]

please add me to the list for the molds. I'm in san diego.

[django]

so the cost to make the bases is about $13.how much is a full set of masterset figs worth?

[eldurand]

I'd like to be added to the list. Thanks!

[bunjee]

so the cost to make the bases is about $13.how much is a full set of masterset figs worth?Well, in a masterset of figs, you get:
27 Small Single
1 Large Single
0 Small Double
2 Large Double

1 $11-$13 quart of resin with hardener makes:
64 small single bases
32 large single bases
16 small double bases
32 large double bases
assuming you fill both molds for every batch. Now, if I'd been thinking, I would have stopped making double bases after a while, but I didn't think about it until now. :roll:

The question would be, about how much resin does it take to fill each mold, instead of both molds. Well, I weighed the finished products to try and figure this out.
Double bases (4 large, 2 small) weigh 1.8 oz
Single bases (4 large, 8 small) weigh 1.7 oz
10 Small single bases weigh 1.3 oz (.13 oz each)
10 large double bases weigh 3.4 oz (.34 oz each)
10 Large single bases weigh 1.6 oz (.16 oz each)
10 Small double bases weigh 2.8 oz (.28 oz each)

It does take slightly less than 4 fluid oz of resin to fill both, and I'd bet that the dry weight isn't to far off the fluid weight.

Material cost (just the resin) to make the equivalent of the Master set would be around $2 but would use a substantial number of small bases. If you figure the cost a different way, by cost per base, rather than weight, you get $13/144bases=0.0903¢ per base. So a master set would be $2.71 materials cost. The problem is that it would take up a disproportionate amount of one base, so you need to figure the supply and demand thing... but I've already rattled on to much. I needed the nice analytical math break from the crap I've been dealing with, thank you.

Basically, it would just need to be negotiated with the person who was able to make bases for you. The tough thing is that it take an hour for the things to harden, and that would have to be part of the negotiated cost. Along with postage.

Just for the record, here is what my setup looked like before I started:
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/DSCN0311.jpg
And here are filled molds:
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/DSCN0314.jpg

I used Dixie brand plastic cups (aka Keg cups) the 16/18 oz size (that is what is stamped on the bottom). Conveniently, that first ring near the bottom of the cup, about 1 inch up, is the 4 oz mark. I used a different cup for each pour, and when I left the cup open to the air, the resin hardened without eating through the cup. I used plastic utensils to stir the hardener in, and paper towels to wipe off the resin container after pouring resin into the cup. With this stuff, it works best to wipe up soon. On the other hand, once you've mixed in the hardener, it is best to let any spills dry and then pull it up. At least on hard surfaces.

On my first pour, I took the photos in the first thread to heart and just poured out the resin and let it overflow the base spots. Big mistake, big mess. On every subsequent pour, I took a little extra time and only filled each base to what it needed. Much much less cleanup, pretty much zero. Total time I had to spend out in the garage for each set; mixing, pouring, and then knock out and pin set when they were hardened? About 10-15 minutes, if that. Had quite an assembly line going. Now I just need to print out some base stickers and paint the bases.

[django]

Thanks i was going to try and sell my 7 extra master set figs at $15 bucks set that included shipping but i guess that sounds a little crazy now and thanks for using dixi cups i hope you do not use solo cups i used to work there and they treat there employees worst than walmart does.

[bunjee]

Thanks i was going to try and sell my 7 extra master set figs at $15 bucks set that included shipping but i guess that sounds a little crazy now and thanks for using dixi cups i hope you do not use solo cups i used to work there and they treat there employees worst than walmart does.Well, $15 would be steep for master set figs, there isn't much of a market. See House Mouse's prices: http://www.housemousegames.com/masetfi.html

The funny thing about the cups, I thought they were solo brand until I actually looked at them. Thank you for the heads up on Solo, I try to avoid companies that treat their employees poorly.


The list as I know it right now (Hahn may have people who were on the list after Skyknight that I don't know about.
After Skyknight, they would go to:
****Doustin (in NH) if he still needs them
****Fuzzie Fuzz (in Seattle) (I can get you a few bases to tide you over)
****Zeek (in OH)
****deathsaurx (unknown location, might just want bases)
****ikkyu142 (in CA, San Diego)
****eldurand (unknown location)


Some people that mentioned interest in just bases:
****Bixby(just send bases)
****robaula(just send bases)
****jcb231(just send bases with labels on)

[Xotli]

I'd be interested in either paying someone for some bases, or getting on the list. Actually, bunjee, if you have too many double bases, I'd be real interested in taking them off your hands and reimbursing you for your time and materials. Doubles is what I need the most (since that's what you get the fewest of by cannibalizing extra master set figs).

I'd probably prefer just paying someone for bases, since I'm not that crafty (I have a vision of wandering around for the rest of my life with resin permanently hardened on my fingers :D), but if that's not convenient for anyone I'll be happy with being on the bottom of the list and waiting patiently for my turn.

[bushi96]

Please add me to the list of molds. Location under the avatar. Which makes we wander a little bit...

My signature is somewhat deviously appropriate to my new SW avatar. How funny, not intentional. Anyway, yeah, please add me to the list. Thanks!!!

[Maska]

If I could be on the list for bases I would greatly appreciate it...

[beetleboy8]

Please place me in the next dibs for making molds. I'm in Gainesville, Florida. Thanks for this non-profit tool, Josh n papa!

[NecroBlade]

I'd love to be next in line, but if it's possible to get some extras from someone who's already had it, please PM me!!!

EDIT: Please do put me in line after beetleboy, though, I'm not too far away from him!!!

Awesome idea, btw!

[darkmooninc]

I'll take a ticket. I can afford $20 of assorted bases, mainly the normal size. Lemme know if you can ever get around to it.

Thanks,
Shawn

[Zeek]

Any news as to who has these now?

[Maska]

I was wondering the same... being a month since putting my name in... ;)

[Xotli]

Does everyone think it would be a good idea for people to post here when they receive and/or pass on the molds? Just so we can all see the progress they're making ... does that sound reasonable?

Still willing to pay someone for some extra bases if anyone's interested.

[skyknight]

Please take my name off the list for these whoever has them.

[cryptoknight]

I'd like to get on the list of people willing to pay for this...

No garage... and I think pouring in my apartment might kill me.

[King's Knight]

I would like to get on the list for the moulds

[fuzzysadist]

Hey, I've still got the molds. Between the cold snap making the bases brittle and the holidays I haven't quite finished them. I'll try and knock the rest out this weekend and get them on thier way.

Fuzzy

[Xotli]

Hey, I've still got the molds. Between the cold snap making the bases brittle and the holidays I haven't quite finished them. I'll try and knock the rest out this weekend and get them on thier way.
Great, thanx for letting us know Fuzzy!

[Stee-Jans]

I would like to be put on the list for the mold please. I'm in Muskegon, MI. Do we still need to PM Hahn with our address or is someone else watching the list?

Thanks all.

[KevHead]

So who is the keeper of the base mold list? Is there one?
I wouldn't mind being on it.
Thanks

[zombiedude]

Please put me on the list as well. :D

[chezious]

I'd like to be on that list as well. And I thought I read somewhere that someone is selling a set for about $5. LMK thanks

[Timthetoolman]

If it hasnt gotten too long, Id like to be added as well.

[Heroscaper90]

what do you use to mold them(the white thing)

[Zeek]

So fuzzysadist just dropped off the face of the earth with the base molds?

What gives?

[Zeek]

Hello?

[Syvarris the Ruler]

Hello?
Hi

[skyknight]

Who knows, there was a list and then that got ignored. No telling where they got to after that.

[bunjee]

Who knows, there was a list and then that got ignored. No telling where they got to after that.The list will be back on starting when I bring you the molds at Gencon. I finally managed to get back in touch with FuzzySadist and got the molds from him. They will be in my carry on so we don't have to worry about luggage safety.

They are in good health and I'll even bring you some of the really nice sticker sheets that we printed ages ago that are a water resistant shipping label printed on the color laser at work. What size finished bases would you like me to bring to tide you over while you are casting?

Now, regarding the list. I have it, but we would want to make sure to contact people that asked ages ago to find out if they are still interested, or if they just want some bases. I'll be PM'ing people, but this is the list as it stands in the thread (I'm giving Fuzzie Fuzz bases, so he's off the list):

After Skyknight, they would go to:
Doustin (in NH) if he still needs them
Zeek (in OH)
*ikkyu142 (in CA, San Diego)
eldurand (unknown location)
bushi96 (OR, Eugene)
Maska (NH, Nashua)
NecroBlade (FL, Orlando)
King's Knight (VA, Alton)
Stee-Jans
KevHead
zombiedude
chezious
Timthetoolman
Onacara

Some people that mentioned interest in just bases:
Bixby(just send bases)
robaula(just send bases)
jcb231(just send bases with labels on)
deathsaurx
Xotli
darkmooninc
cryptoknight

[Onacara]

Woohoo...I want on the list now that the molds have been found again

[brickman1444]

Funny, for some reason I thought the molds were destroyed for some reason, hmm, curious.

[Bixby]

Yes, I am still interested in buying bases and paying a bit extra for someone's time and effort to make them. Let me know...

[skyknight]

Bunjee I already managed to get a bunch of bases so I do not need these anymore. Please take my name off of the list if thats ok and just ship them on to the next person. Thanks a bunch.

[Doustin]

Wow Im still on this list? I got a bunch from someone long ago and havent even used those, I dont think I need any more. Ill step down from my spot on the list.

[Zeek]

Yes! I am still interested. :D

And now apparently next on the list. :shock:

[bunjee]

Funny, for some reason I thought the molds were destroyed for some reason, hmm, curious.All rumors of broken molds were the fabrication of paranoid people. Evidently that accusation was sent to Fuzzy Sadist at one point.


Ok, so the revised list is:
Zeek (in OH)
ikkyu142 (in CA, San Diego)
eldurand (unknown location)
bushi96 (OR, Eugene)
Maska (NH, Nashua)
NecroBlade (FL, Orlando)
King's Knight (VA, Alton)
Stee-Jans
KevHead
zombiedude
chezious
Timthetoolman
Onacara

Some people that mentioned interest in just bases:
Bixby(just send bases)
robaula(just send bases)
jcb231(just send bases with labels on)
deathsaurx
Xotli
darkmooninc
cryptoknight

Anyone that is on the list, please PM me with your:
Real Name
Mailing Address
phone number

So I can make a list to ship with the molds. Thank you all for your incredible patience! Those of you that just want bases, please PM me with your preferred types and quantity and I'll let you know what I can do. Firstest come firstest serve (after Bixby)

[OmegaX01]

i wouldn't mind dropping say 20 or 30 bucks for a doubble batch of bases. if someone wouldn't mind taking care of the casting.

[josh-n-papa]

I finally managed to get back in touch with FuzzySadist and got the molds from him.
Now, regarding the list. I have it, but we would want to make sure to contact people that asked ages ago to find out if they are still interested, or if they just want some bases. I'll be PM'ing people, but this is the list as it stands in the thread

Most Excellent!!!!!
Bunjee,your awesome!! I had pretty much given up hope on them.Thanks for doing the detective work getting ahold of FuzzySadist.
You are, and always have been, a major supporting pillar of this community.
I'm really happy you found these and I can't thank you enough!.......Well maybe I can.When you get done with Gencon PM me,You got a free set of dice coming.I just got done doing 5 set for gencon prizes, but I still got some blanks left :D

[bunjee]

I finally managed to get back in touch with FuzzySadist and got the molds from him.
Now, regarding the list. I have it, but we would want to make sure to contact people that asked ages ago to find out if they are still interested, or if they just want some bases. I'll be PM'ing people, but this is the list as it stands in the thread

Most Excellent!!!!!
Bunjee,your awesome!! I had pretty much given up hope on them.Thanks for doing the detective work getting ahold of FuzzySadist.
You are, and always have been, a major supporting pillar of this community.
I'm really happy you found these and I can't thank you enough!.......Well maybe I can.When you get done with Gencon PM me,You got a free set of dice coming.I just got done doing 5 set for gencon prizes, but I still got some blanks left :DOk, but I have to say I don't deserve that at all. I broke the initial rules of passing the molds and so I had the responsibility of recovering them. I'll still take the dice though, I'm not stupid!


i wouldn't mind dropping say 20 or 30 bucks for a doubble batch of bases. if someone wouldn't mind taking care of the casting.That is way too much money for 2 sets of bases. At least in my mind. I'll get back to you on cost and if I can fulfill the need.

[TOG]

All rumors of broken molds were the fabrication of paranoid people.


Hmmmm, I never thought of Malechi as being a paranoid person....

[bunjee]

All rumors of broken molds were the fabrication of paranoid people.
Hmmmm, I never thought of Malechi as being a paranoid person....I was never approached with any questions about if they were broken from Malechi or anyone else. I certainly would have set them straight.

Besides, Malechi probably is paranoid, he's definitely crazy! :twisted:

[Ted]

I would be interested in just getting a batch of bases if someone is willing to do so. Please let me know via PM or email. email is listed in my profile.
Thanks.

[SmokeScreen]

I'd love to be put on the list..! ( i know i'll have to wait a bit, but thats cool) :)

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

Smokescreen, you will never get them. The person who has them has dropped off the face of the earth.

[Cavalier]

Smokescreen, you will never get them. The person who has them has dropped off the face of the earth.

Who knows, there was a list and then that got ignored. No telling where they got to after that.The list will be back on starting when I bring you the molds at Gencon. I finally managed to get back in touch with FuzzySadist and got the molds from him. They will be in my carry on so we don't have to worry about luggage safety.

They are in good health and I'll even bring you some of the really nice sticker sheets that we printed ages ago that are a water resistant shipping label printed on the color laser at work. What size finished bases would you like me to bring to tide you over while you are casting?

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

:oops: Nevermind...

That's good news! :D

[Ted]

So did these turn up at gencon? And if so who ever has them are they willing to make me a batch of bases?

Pretty please!

[Ted]

Any news here. I hate to double post but I am curious and have not seen a response.

[bunjee]

So did these turn up at gencon? And if so who ever has them are they willing to make me a batch of bases?

Pretty please!Sorry, start of school has been busy lately. They turned up before Gencon, some base making assembly line is happening for the large number of people that want bases. Send me a pm outlining your desires and I get back to you on what can be done.

[Onacara]

So did these turn up at gencon? And if so who ever has them are they willing to make me a batch of bases?

Pretty please!Sorry, start of school has been busy lately. They turned up before Gencon, some base making assembly line is happening for the large number of people that want bases. Send me a pm outlining your desires and I get back to you on what can be done.

Bunjee are all of thsoe requests being filled before the people on the actual list for the molds??

Just trying to figure out when it will arrive here so i can ensure i am ready to cast and get the mold to the next person ASAP

[bunjee]

So did these turn up at gencon? And if so who ever has them are they willing to make me a batch of bases?

Pretty please!Sorry, start of school has been busy lately. They turned up before Gencon, some base making assembly line is happening for the large number of people that want bases. Send me a pm outlining your desires and I get back to you on what can be done.

Bunjee are all of thsoe requests being filled before the people on the actual list for the molds??

Just trying to figure out when it will arrive here so i can ensure i am ready to cast and get the mold to the next person ASAP

Sorry to confuse, no, the molds are not being held pending base making for ones only wanting bases. I am waiting on a few addresses but I'll be getting the final route together this weekend.

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

Hey, while they're in Seattle, could someone make me a set real quick? Thanks.

[skyknight]

These things are still in Seattle :lol: Good thing we had that list well over a year and a half ago :D

[Onacara]

I swear if someone breaks this mold chain I will ........
(deep breath)

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

These things are still in Seattle :lol: Good thing we had that list well over a year and a half ago :DUm, I know.

Hey, while they're in Seattle, could someone make me a set real quick? Thanks.

Translation: Before they leave Seattle.

[bunjee]

These things are still in Seattle :lol: Good thing we had that list well over a year and a half ago :DNo one ever sent me a list of addresses. As I recall, the only address Hahn had was yours and you don't want them any more.

[Onacara]

These things are still in Seattle :lol: Good thing we had that list well over a year and a half ago :DNo one ever sent me a list of addresses. As I recall, the only address Hahn had was yours and you don't want them any more.


I will send you mine again if I can get them first :wink: LOL

[bunjee]

These things are still in Seattle :lol: Good thing we had that list well over a year and a half ago :DNo one ever sent me a list of addresses. As I recall, the only address Hahn had was yours and you don't want them any more.


I will send you mine again if I can get them first :wink: LOLI have yours, you're all good. I'm going to PM users that are on the list that haven't sent me their addresses.


I have addresses from fewer than I thought. The * people have sent their addresses, I've pm'd the rest as indicated to find out if they still want them.

Updated list Sunday evening with people who have contacted me. We're pretty close to a go, I want to give the first three people a bit more time since I sent these pms.

pm'd Zeek (in OH)
pm'd eldurand (unknown location)
pm'd bushi96 (OR, Eugene)
* Maska (NH, Nashua)
* NecroBlade (FL, Orlando)
* King's Knight (VA, Alton)
pm'd Stee-Jans (DC)
* KevHead (MI)
pm'd zombiedude (OH?)
pm'd chezious (MI)
* Timthetoolman
* Onacara (NY)
* beetleboy8 (FL)
* bigdawg76126 (TX)
(declined until future) ikkyu142 (in CA, San Diego)

[Xotli]

Have we ever considered trying to get a large number of bases to Sandra for sale to us lazy people? :) Something similar to the lexan mats, which were started by Teekay, then picked up by Cavalier, and now sold by HouseMouse. Certainly I'd be willing to pay for extra bases, especially if they're priced perfectly reasonably (as are the lexan mats, which I've already purchased 2 of and definitely plan to get more). It could possibly be combined somehow with Mal's base stickers ...

Possibly this would not be logistically feasible; I'm just throwing it out there. I have no idea how things were worked out between Cav and Teekay, so I don't know if that's equally feasible to work out with J-n-P (and/or Mal). Just saying ... I would pop some in my HouseMouse order nearly every time. :)

[bunjee]

Have we ever considered trying to get a large number of bases to Sandra for sale to us lazy people? :) Something similar to the lexan mats, which were started by Teekay, then picked up by Cavalier, and now sold by HouseMouse. Certainly I'd be willing to pay for extra bases, especially if they're priced perfectly reasonably (as are the lexan mats, which I've already purchased 2 of and definitely plan to get more). It could possibly be combined somehow with Mal's base stickers ...

Possibly this would not be logistically feasible; I'm just throwing it out there. I have no idea how things were worked out between Cav and Teekay, so I don't know if that's equally feasible to work out with J-n-P (and/or Mal). Just saying ... I would pop some in my HouseMouse order nearly every time. :)The base molds are to be a free thing. I do have you on the list for bases but I don't remember how many you said you wanted, I'll take a look later (gotta go help a friend move some stuff)

[Malechi]

Have we ever considered trying to get a large number of bases to Sandra for sale to us lazy people? :) ...

I am sorry, but you have to leave now. Don't let the URL hit you in the booty on the way out.
:twisted:

The Lexan mats are hex mats and as such do not fall under any copyright. However, the HeroScape bases do indeed fall under copyright laws and selling such would be a very big no-no.

The Traveling Base Molds on the other hand are very gray in this as nothing whatsoever is being sold. Basically, if you're too lazy to make bases yourself, buy some figures from eBay and remove them from the bases. If that is still too much work ... What were you planning to do with the bases any way?!?
:roll:

[Doc_Savage]

Obviously the bases are not an issue... It's the stickers...

[Scape Demon]

Does anyone know if the fiberglass resin is compatible with silicone rubber molds? I have some OOMOO 25 so I can make my own molds, but I'd like to know before hand if the resin will eat the silicone molds. THX

Here's a spec sheet on the mold rubber.
http://tb.smodev.com/tb/uploads/Oomoo_25___30.pdf

[Malechi]

Obviously the bases are not an issue... It's the stickers...

Oh, so now you're blaming me?

:twisted:

[Doc_Savage]

NOOOOO!!!! Your stickers are awesome :D :D :D

Someone else just can't sell them...

[Ted]

Are these still going around and if so is anyone willing to make some for others? I have asked several times and have not heard anything.

[skyknight]

These things were supposed to have been public property, its to bad they did not get used like they were intended to. The original list idea was a good one and it seemed kind of cool. Seems to have hit a few snags though. Hopefully it straightens itself out soon, it has been well over a year since they were diverted from the list and never made it back into that direction. Many of the members on that address list have already come and gone in that time. If these do get back into circulation please make sure you guys pass them on as they were intended to be. :wink:

[Ted]

Is it possible to find out who has them and recreate a list as to who wants the molds and who would just like the bases?

[Onacara]

I am still on the list and still waiting....and waiting...and waiting :-(

[bunjee]

Oncara and Ted, PM's sent.

[Rocktroll]

Hi guys, I was on the original List by J&P , and I was the one keeping the list till some one broke the molds :)

Think I was going under the name of Gamgan back in heroscape HQ

Can I get back on the list, and are these mods still traveling? or did they get stuck :)

will have to go back and read the last 9 pages of post I guess to find out the status

[bunjee]

Can I get back on the list, and are these mods still traveling? or did they get stuck :)Pm sent

[Malechi]

Can I get back on the list, and are these mods still traveling? or did they get stuck :)

Talk about security, Mods are traveling with the molds!
:twisted:

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

No, I think he means unstuck. The mods accidentally stuck themselves to the molds. Then the molds got shipped off, the mods along with them.

[SunTzuNhu]

Please add me to the list for bases. Thanks!

[DrRansom]

Hello. Are thes molds still being passed around? I am currently using washers from wallmart as my bases.. not the best material but at least it works. :)

If they are available can I be added to the list?

Thanks.

[bunjee]

Please add me to the list for bases. Thanks!PM sent since I mistakenly thought you were added.

Hello. Are thes molds still being passed around? I am currently using washers from wallmart as my bases.. not the best material but at least it works. :)

If they are available can I be added to the list?

Thanks.PM me your full real name, address, email address, and phone number to be added to the list.

[DrRansom]

Done, thanks.

[Onacara]

If the molds have started on their quest again can whoever has them please post when they get them and when they pass them on so us folks who are waiting have some sort of clue? I want to make sure i have everything i need to pour mine when the molds arrive and move them to the next person as quick as possible.

Thanks[/i]

[Onacara]

Who has these now?????

[bunjee]

They are one there way to Zeek and should arrive to him by Monday.

[Onacara]

They are one there way to Zeek and should arrive to him by Monday.


It took 2 months but at least they are back in circulation

[Maska]

They are one there way to Zeek and should arrive to him by Monday.


It took 2 months but at least they are back in circulation

Quoted For Truth ;)

[Zeek]

They are one there way to Zeek and should arrive to him by Monday.

Wheeeeeeeee! :!: ! :D

[UranusPChicago]

If anyone is interested in selling off some extra bases, I would be interested in buying them. :wink:

Please send me a PM if you are interested.

I am amazed at the described ease of the process, but I am quite sure that I would find some way to screw it up. :lol:

[DrRansom]

If anyone is interested in selling off some extra bases, I would be interested in buying them. :wink:
Please send me a PM if you are interested.
I am amazed at the described ease of the process, but I am quite sure that I would find some way to screw it up. :lol:

If the mold ever makes it to me I'm going to make more than I'll use and I'll send you a handful for free.

[Zeek]

My wife says the molds have arrived safe and sound, and that the box is in perfect condition. I will be getting home tommorow or early the next morning, but my time will be consumed by prep work for our familly get together on Friday and Saturday. So I will most likely get to them on Sunday. I hope to have them on their way to Maska before the turn of the year.

:D

[cold_fuzion]

Since I'm quite certain I can find some way to mess this up, I'd be willing to pay someone to make me a batch of these. I have a few customs I'd really love to make, but can't bring myself to kill some of my existing figures.

[Rocktroll]

Can we have the updated list ?? I want to see how far down I am in it :)



Hey I'm wondering does any one have the original list? wonder if we can make a time line to see how long it stopped at each person to see an average of how long it took to be shipped to the next scaper.

My unit is going to Iraq soon and was hopping to get these made before I deployed.

[bunjee]

Can we have the updated list ?? I want to see how far down I am in it :)



Hey I'm wondering does any one have the original list? wonder if we can make a time line to see how long it stopped at each person to see an average of how long it took to be shipped to the next scaper.

My unit is going to Iraq soon and was hopping to get these made before I deployed.Well, there were some severe delays with myself and FuzzySadist so the average time isn't easy to work out.

Here is the list without addresses:
List of requests * indicates address received:
* Zeek (has the molds)
* Maska
* NecroBlade
* King's Knight
* KevHead
* zombiedude
* Timthetoolman
* Onacara
* beetleboy8
* bigdawg76126
* Rocktroll
* SunTzuNhu
* DrRansom

[DrRansom]

Wow.. I'm a year away! :) Can we start passing around the mold for the mold?

[Zeek]

Well the weather was nice for my family get-together, warm and mild, but just as soon as I had the last of them out the door, the temperature dropped and the wind picked up.

I had intended to do the bases in my shed as I have no garage, but the temp and wind made this impossible. I had heard stories about brittle bases shattering in below freezing temps, and I did not want particles of dirt, dust, and dried leaves blown into the wet resin.

So I decided to set up in the apartment that is attached to the back of our house. It is a two bedroom apartment that we manage to keep rented out about three quarters of the time, but is curently unocupied.

I opened all the windows on the first floor (window screens still in place) and turned the furnace down to 55. After mixing the first batch I discovered I had yet another problem.

Even with all the windows open the smell still made its way into the front (our living space) of the house. So I went back and turned on the bathroom fan, and kitchen/stove fan. This reduced the problem to just our first floor bathroom.

So for the next three days my wife (who is sensative to chemicals, and has the nose of a bloodhound) refused to set foot in the fist floor bathroom.

Over the next three days I managed to get nine sets done. I had purchased two cans of bondo resin thinking this would go fast and be a breeze, Ha. I should have know better than to try this over the hollidays.

The time involved in actually doing all of this is very small. The time waiting for the resin to harden is what eats up your day, and if you have a wife and kids that unreasonably expect you to participate in in your life, your familly, and little inconsequential things like the hollidays, then your time will get cut into even more.

Once the first set had hardend I noticed I had a few problems.

First of let me say that if you plan on being as neat and tidy as Bunjee was in her description and photo, you will need to do this in a very well lit area.

The resin has a very high surface tension (at least at the temperature I was working in) and will "grab" onto the side of the mold below the top edge or "rim."

I had three or four bases from the first set that had small sections of outer edge missing due to this tendency. The resin will do this even when the top of the resin is higher than the top of the mold.

The other problem was that when looking at the bases from the side I could see that the molds must not have been sitting level when I set them to dry.

So I got out my level and checked the table. Sure enough it was not level. So with cardboard shims and more checking with the level I was soon satisfied that I had eliminated the problem.

The problem was that the "problem" was still there. All the bases from the second set from both molds showed a slight taper in thickness from one side to the other.

What I had thought was a lean in the table was in reality a lean in the molds. I had been looking at the bases after removing them from the molds. I thought the taper was all in one direction, but in truth it was from the outer edge of the molds to the middle.

If you look at the photos of the molds you can see that Josh-N-Papa put a bar down the long side of the molds but none on the short side. My guess is this was done to prevent warping that happened to the first set.

I think that if each person who gets the molds sets them on some "one by two" boards and sets some books on them, that we can keep this under control. But please don't try to undo this warping too quickly, as this may damage the molds. Just let the weight of some heavy books do the work slowly.

The problem is minor and the method I used to solve the problem of the high surface tension also minimised the taper problem.

As per the instructions that Josh-N-Papa gave us, I mixed up four ounces of resin. When I was done with the first set I had a small amount left over.

To solve the problem of the surface tension in further sets I continued to mix four ounces, but I used all of it. This gives you mold cavities that look horiblly over filled.

The fix is that you then take the plastic spoon that you mixed your resin with, and "paint" the edge of the mold cavities out at least one quarter of an inch, and no more than half an inch.

This solves the problem of the high surface tension, and the best part is that the high surface tension helps with the taper. With the "ring of resin" around the mold cavity, the surface tension attempts to pull it all flat.

This works much better when you take your time and get the resin evenly distributed. Good lighting is a must.

[Zeek]

Hey Rocktroll, Onacara has asked me to make him three sets, and I said I would. I will not profit from this nor do I wish to make a career out of it. So I will buy one (and only one) extra can of resin. This will give me nine extra sets.

So if you want when I get home again (I'm back on the road right now), I can send you three sets so you can have them before you leave.

So that would be three sets for Onacara, three sets for Rocktroll and three sets for someone else.

I don't feel like reading through this entire thread right now to see who asked first for bases. I also know that many who asked first have already been given bases. Bunjee I don't have the list with me in the truck. Can you tell me who was on the list for just bases?

[Zeek]

I just want everyone to know that my mentioning the warping in the molds is in no way a critisism of Josh-N-Papa or his work.

I think his molds are one of the greatest contributions to the heroscape fan community ever made!

Not to mention that he did it for free!

I only mention it so that we may work around it and correct it. I think that if each one of us that has them sets weight on them in the manner I mentioned, that we can correct the problem, or at least keep it from getting worse.

[Onacara]

I will be trying to hone my mold making skills when the weather gets better and I can use my workshed.

If all goes well I plan on making some extra molds to offer free to the members of this site just like these were provided to us.


Thanks again Zeek

[bunjee]

I will make a note that if you overfill the molds, the bases will not fit in the ladders. I didn't have much/any problem with the resin coming out of the molds so I'm not really sure what your describing with the sticking?

I'll get you a list of base desires. I have to get some of the extra bases I made to people too, but I didn't get them out before leaving for my trip.

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

Can I be added to the list?

EDIT:If someone makes extras before they make their way to me, I'd be interested in buying some cheap, if I could.

Thanks!

[Drizzi]

can i buy like 20 of each base from some one PLZ.

[Raudulfr Shieldcrusher]

I will be trying to hone my mold making skills when the weather gets better and I can use my workshed.

If all goes well I plan on making some extra molds to offer free to the members of this site just like these were provided to us.

Thanks again Zeek

Can't wait to see what you come up with. Can I be first on your list? :wink:

[Ted]

I have asked for my name to be placed on the list of those willing to buy so if anyone is interested in making some for others I am still interested.

Thanks.

[yodajunkie]

Those are really cool. How can I get a set? They would really help me out with my customs.

[robbdaman]

How can I get on a list to buy some bases for each size?

R~

[NecroBlade]

You can go ahead and remove me from the list. I'll just cannibalize bases for now. Speed these along to someone else.

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

Can I be added to the list?

EDIT:If someone makes extras before they make their way to me, I'd be interested in buying some cheap, if I could.

Thanks!Please?

[TheMedic]

I MIGHT be getting a batch of suitable bases (Just the standard 30mm single hex figure though).

It depends how much they are going to cost me, and that they match the original bases close enough etc, etc as to whether it is a viable move. BUT, if it comes off I will let you know, and it should be a very inexpensive option for re-basing custom figures properly.

[Rocktroll]

I just got back from training been out for a month now

And first thing I saw when I got home was a box full of bases Zeek had made for me for free

Can’t say how much I appreciate it man. It’s this kind of generosity that makes this site so awesome.

Once I hit Iraq I hope to have enough free time do nothing more then read and paint minis and these bases will be an awesome start
Thanks Zeek!

[Mystillate]

Anyone tried making molds out of silicone? Seems like there'd be less trouble getting the bases out of the molds. I'm going to try this as soon as I'm able and I'll post the results here...

-=Mystillate=-

[ripelop]

I didn't read through the entire post... but who has the mold right now, and how do I get on the list to either get the mold or recieve bases? Please email me @ michael.stallcup@gmail.com if you can answer either r both of these questions. Thans in advance.

-Ripe

[Wallstreet]

I am looking for some double bases to build a few large custom units. I don't really think I can "mold my own"...so if anyone has some for sale please let me know. wallstreet32@ameritech.net. Thanks.

[land.scape]

I'd love to buy some single bases from anyone with extras.

[Maska]

ok, I know I'm a little out of the loop... someone who had the molds before me (and sorry I totally forget name) and was a trucker offered to drop them while passin through and was relatively close. Unfortunately my situation wasn't as flexible so I didnt get them from him... and told him to just send them along when he finished what he needed.


That was the last I saw/heard of them.


I thought I was maybe a couple/few weeks out but it was a while ago I heard from whomever it was.

I still want to be on the list obviously... :)

[bunjee]

Zeek has the molds, you could pm him and I'll send him an email

[Xotli]

I'm suddenly in need of a few small doubles, which is the one thing you can't cannibalize out of an extra master set. I would really like to pay someone for making some bases for me, if anyone would be interested. Drop me a PM if you've currently got the molds or are getting them soon and would be interested in doing this.

Thanx!

[Onacara]

He is probably on the road again (truck driver from what I recall)


I am already on the list and at the rate it is going I am expecting the mold to arrive sometime in 2012 :-(

[robbdaman]

I've PM'd him before and gotten no response at all. I think the mold is lost.

R~

[SirSlayton68]

does anyone have a clue where the mold is?

[skyknight]

This is one of the most entertaining threads on this while site:lol:

[Hahnarama]

This is one of the most entertaining threads on this while site:lol:


Don't you start! I offered them to you from Seattle back in '06.:p


Seriously there is enough demand for the molds, and dice, that Papa and his Biz partner should start selling them. That's just my :2cents:

[robbdaman]

I just recently bought a huge lot of figures that comes out to about 60 cents a figure just for the bases, The only thing I don't get from them is the smaller large double hex bases. I've been thinking I may just make a mold of those to have.

I agree someone should just make bases and sell them, it'd be easier for everyone. ;)

R~

[Xotli]

I agree someone should just make bases and sell them, it'd be easier for everyone. ;)

Second that.

[Armageddon]

Did anyone ever find out where the molds went?

[skyknight]

Should be coming your way any day now...trust me on this.:lol:

[SuperflyTNT]

Does anyone know if the fiberglass resin is compatible with silicone rubber molds? I have some OOMOO 25 so I can make my own molds, but I'd like to know before hand if the resin will eat the silicone molds. THX

Here's a spec sheet on the mold rubber.
http://tb.smodev.com/tb/uploads/Oomoo_25___30.pdf

1. You can use resins on silicone molds BUT MAKE SURE YOU USE MOLD RELEASE so the molds don't deteriorate so fast.

2. These bases are NOT a grey area as if you look at the bases they are machined and not copied from an original (or at least it appears that way) and hence are not duplications. The missing hole patterns make this legal if nothing else does.

3. LOVE the work, great idea, and kudos for having the courtesy and selflessness to pass the mold around. I am working on my own mold in Silicone and I'll do the same when I've got it completed.

REP+

[DrRansom]

Hey everyone! Anyone know who's got the mold?

[Cavalier]

Does anyone know if the fiberglass resin is compatible with silicone rubber molds? I have some OOMOO 25 so I can make my own molds, but I'd like to know before hand if the resin will eat the silicone molds. THX

Here's a spec sheet on the mold rubber.
http://tb.smodev.com/tb/uploads/Oomoo_25___30.pdf

1. You can use resins on silicone molds BUT MAKE SURE YOU USE MOLD RELEASE so the molds don't deteriorate so fast.

2. These bases are NOT a grey area as if you look at the bases they are machined and not copied from an original (or at least it appears that way) and hence are not duplications. The missing hole patterns make this legal if nothing else does.

3. LOVE the work, great idea, and kudos for having the courtesy and selflessness to pass the mold around. I am working on my own mold in Silicone and I'll do the same when I've got it completed.

REP+
You do realize that you are responding to a post that is nearly a year old made by someone who hasn't posted anything on the site in nearly a year, right?

Hey everyone! Anyone know who's got the mold?
No. They seem to once again be lost. And have been for quite sometime.

[bunjee]

Zeek has them. I just called and talked to him and although he is currently on the road, he will get them on their way.

You know, reading the thread 2 pages back answered the who has the molds question. A person even received bases from him in February of this year.

I'm not saying that the delay isn't bad, but as a person who delayed them for a huge ton of time, I understand how it can slip from your mind when things get crazy.

And if Superflytnt has something to add to an old conversation, that seems fine by me. Even if the original poster can't use the info, perhaps someone else will be able to do something with it.

[DrRansom]

Allright.. Zeek (supposedly) has 'em now. As of last count then here's what the list looks like:

* Zeek (has the molds)
* Maska
* NecroBlade
* King's Knight
* KevHead
* zombiedude
* Timthetoolman
* Onacara
* beetleboy8
* bigdawg76126
* Rocktroll
* SunTzuNhu
* DrRansom

I'm likely to get them sometime in the '30s. :) It's ok. I'm still holding out.

[robbdaman]

I'm just going to make my own, by the time the molds could get to me I'll be dead of old age.

R~

[skyknight]

yep, we are still a good two years out from getting them to king's knight.

[yodajunkie]

I know this is an old thread, but here is a note to anyone who wants to make their own molds. Mine are'nt as good as the traveling ones, but sculpy clay will work. First use a crayon to get a layer of wax on your original base, then mold clay around it. Pop it in the oven with the base still in it. I Know, you ruin your original base, but it's worth it in the long run. When it's done baking, carefully remove the ruined base while it's still hot. Now you have a decent mold to work with. Before you put any resin in it, take some hot candle wax, and pour it in the mold, and quickly pour it out. You just want to coat the surface of the mold. Sometimes you may have to redefine your corners with a small screwdriver. Now you can pour your resin in and let it set up. After 30 minutes when the resin is still flexible, flex your mold a little, and the base comes right out. You want to then lay it on a flat surface face up, or it will shape to what ever you lay it on. The resin will not adhere to the wax. I've made several hundred bases this way. Just be sure to recoat your mould with wax if things start getting harder to get out. I made 16 single molds, and it takes about 2-3 ounces to fill all.

[SuperflyTNT]

And if Superflytnt has something to add to an old conversation, that seems fine by me. Even if the original poster can't use the info, perhaps someone else will be able to do something with it.

PooPoo on you, Cav! :rofl:

And thanks Bunjee, and PS - you've got a great figure!

[Onacara]

December 13, 2007 They are one there way to Zeek and should arrive to him by Monday.


HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!

September 23, 2008 Zeek has them. I just called and talked to him and although he is currently on the road, he will get them on their way.

You know, reading the thread 2 pages back answered the who has the molds question. A person even received bases from him in February of this year.

I'm not saying that the delay isn't bad, but as a person who delayed them for a huge ton of time, I understand how it can slip from your mind when things get crazy.

And if Superflytnt has something to add to an old conversation, that seems fine by me. Even if the original poster can't use the info, perhaps someone else will be able to do something with it.


Did they ever get to the next person on the list? I don't even think most of the people on the list still log on.

[DrRansom]

I know this is an old thread, but here is a note to anyone who wants to make their own molds. First use a crayon to get a layer of wax...
That sounds nice, but it totally misses the point. It's not about making bases at this point, No SIR. There's a higher principal afoot here; something akin to asking for directions when you're 78% sure you'd recognise the area if you just look around the bend. :D


HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!...Did they ever get to the next person on the list? I don't even think most of the people on the list still log on.
Thank you, you too. And I'm still here.. I'm holding out! :) MOLD me, baby!

[skyknight]

Ahhhhh...the traveling molds thread...so much fun to :popcorn:yet so much....
:horsepoo:

[DrRansom]

So I was thinkin about these the other day..

Does Zeek still have them or did they ever wind up with bunjee?

[bunjee]

Sigh. So far as I know, they are with Zeek. I need to see if his contact info is still good. Very sad.

[Caric]

Hey all,
Well I know this has been dormant for a while, but just wondering if anyone happens to know what material John-n-papa used to make his mold. I know he mentions "plastic molds", but maybe Silicone? Thanks in advance,
Doug

[robbdaman]

Hey all,
Well I know this has been dormant for a while, but just wondering if anyone happens to know what material John-n-papa used to make his mold. I know he mentions "plastic molds", but maybe Silicone? Thanks in advance,
Doug

Silicone ones work but will only last for so long which is why he made those out of a hardened plastic. You can get 50 castings out of silicone most of the time from what I hear so that may be plenty.

[Caric]

Thanks for your reply. I figured they almost looked as if they were CNC'd maybe or just molten plastic? Do you know if he just melted down plastic stock or is there a marketed plastic material out there? I can't find anything but variants of Silicone bases molding products. My goal is to create very durable molds.

Thanks again for the input!
Doug

[DrRansom]

...well I'm still alive if Bunji ever tracks down Zeek who whatever needs to happen next happens. :)