View Full Version : Is the Hulk going to be the strongest character EVER??
Mego Stretch Hulk
June 10th, 2007, 06:43 PM
We all know the Hulk will have superstrength and he will have a power called "adrenaline surge" in which his damage will increase to untold of levels. But just how much damage do you think the Hulk will do? I'm guessing more than anything this game has ever seen!!
Hulk is the strongest one there is and every game the Hulk has been in showed this. This game will be no different...
What do you guys think?
johnny139
June 10th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I expect him to be in the 250-300 point range. Weaker than Thanos, but stronger than pretty much anyone else, minus the Silver Surfer.
Mego Stretch Hulk
June 10th, 2007, 06:56 PM
I'll bet you he does more damae than Thanos will. The Hulk's problem will come with his ability to hit. He will also be able to take just as much or even more than Thonos will.
Place bet's anyone???
MacG
June 10th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Hulk is the strongest one there is and every game the Hulk has been in showed this. This game will be no different...
What do you guys think?
I think Abomination will be stronger and will be able to kick the Hulk around...until Hulk gets mad!
Robotech Master
June 11th, 2007, 02:48 AM
RE: I'll bet you he does more damae than Thanos will. The Hulk's problem will come with his ability to hit. He will also be able to take just as much or even more than Thonos will.
Place bet's anyone???
As far as Marvel power ratings usually go, Thanos is far above Hulk in power. Thanos lasted a long time against Tyrant, a man who simultaneously beat down Silver Surfer, Firelord, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, and all the other heralds of Galactus like they were pansies.
He's taken beatings from Odin while in Odin's realm of power and shrugged it off later. He's just as powerful, if not more powerful, than Sentry, who broke every bone in Hulk's body and left him beaten like a piece of trash.
However, for the purposes of this game, I'd say that Hulk and Abomination most likely have the highest attack ratings. Abomination's will probably start highest, whereas Hulk will probably start with 6 attack and his special abilities will slowly build him up to like 9 attack or something. The deal though, is that Hulk will probably be slower (move of 5, not sure how the jump will work though), with possibly less defense but more life, and a range of 1. So he'll be really tough and hard to put down, but characters like Thanos and Silver Surfer will be more brutal because of their mix of high move, flying, good range, and good attack power.
Drumline3469
June 11th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Hmmmmm.... Hulk getting mad..... Wounded Strike anyone?
dragonfire9788
June 11th, 2007, 12:43 PM
Hmmmmm.... Hulk getting mad..... Wounded Strike anyone?
Most likely.
Eclipse
June 11th, 2007, 01:59 PM
Hmmmmm.... Hulk getting mad..... Wounded Strike anyone?
Most likely.
http://boardgames.about.com/od/marvelheroscape/ig/Toy-Fair-2007/Iron-Man-Card.htm
Not that they didn't change Iron Man, but I think we've already got this covered.
Tiberius
June 11th, 2007, 02:38 PM
What about attack and defense boost as he takes wounds? He gets stronger and more difficult to hurt. I think that would be more fitting.
allskulls
June 11th, 2007, 02:56 PM
What about attack and defense boost as he takes wounds? He gets stronger and more difficult to hurt. I think that would be more fitting.
That sounds like the perfect ability for Hulk. At 8 life he can start with a 3 attack and 2 defense. With that kind of ability you would want to hit him as hard as you can quickly to take advantage of the 2 defense then have some defense negaters (MBS) ready to clean up.
Would be cool to get a boost in his leaping ability too. 320 points?
Aldin
June 11th, 2007, 04:53 PM
Welcome to the boards, Mego Stretch Hulk!
On behalf of our bodybuilding and green with env..., umm, err, green with anger community I extend to you a laurel and a hearty handshake.
As a new member, you can begin your journey on the path to the fellowship, praise and respect of your Heroscapers peers by checking out this announcement: http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=6970
~Aldin, who thinks that Hulk will SMASH
yynderjohn
June 11th, 2007, 05:15 PM
I bet Hulk will be about 300 pts. He should start out tough and get ridiculously tough as he gets madder. As for power, yes Thanos is tougher overall, but no one is stronger than the Hulk in the Marvel Universe when he's angry, that's part of the Marvel Canon. I mean in The 1st Marvel Secret Wars, Hullk held up I believe the entire Rocky Mountains on his shoulders while the rest of the heroes figured a way out of the mountain the Molecule MAn dropped on them. I would hope the Hulks stats would be something like
10 life
6 move
1 range
5 attack
3 defense
Abilities
Superleap:Hulk can leap up to 25 spaces, forfeit's attack.
Adrenaline boost +1 attack, defense and move per life point taken. if Hulk is below 4 life he gets 2 attacks
Disengage: Can disengage with no parting shot
Havokscry
June 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM
I'm guessing that point wise, the Abomination will be around 260 to 275 and the Hulk will be around 300. The Silver Surfer should be around 325 based on the stats for Thanos. Venom will probably be around 180.
IAmBatman
June 11th, 2007, 06:06 PM
Well, on the about.com picture you can see the wording for a "jump punch" power, which I believe we interpreted as an attack he could place after his initial attack that he could place against a figure a certain distance away from him. You can clearly see the wording from the about.com at the end of the jump punch power says: "The Incredible Hulk doesn't receive an engagement attack after using Jump Punch" so that's a disengagement ability of sorts.
Also from the about.com picture, unless he's changed, he has a very Krug like power. The title and the first part of the power are almost exactly like Krug's except with a limitation.
It's worded more or less as so:
Rage, Smash 5
When the Incredible Hulk attacks, he receives one extra attack die for each wound marker on his card up to a total of five extra attack dice.
Then there's about a sentence or two after that, I'm guessing where the restrictions for the power are spelled out. I suppose it could give him a defensive bonus as well, but I doubt it.
We also know from that picture that Hulk is a human, unique hero, creature, angry, and medium 6 (I believe that's the curve of a 6, at least).
jcb231
June 11th, 2007, 08:55 PM
We all know the Hulk will have superstrength and he will have a power called "adrenaline surge" in which his damage will increase to untold of levels. But just how much damage do you think the Hulk will do? I'm guessing more than anything this game has ever seen!!
Hulk is the strongest one there is and every game the Hulk has been in showed this. This game will be no different...
What do you guys think?
Where did you get the "adrenaline surge" thing from? So far the only powers we've seen on his card are "Jump, Punch" and "Rage, Smash 5" and those may change in the final product.
If the current powers are any indication, he will be able to leap and attack, and as he takes wounds it seems he will gain attack dice. Very thematic, and there's still room for a third power. I'd suggest some sort of area-effect attack, such as a ground-pounding punch that flattens figures surrounding him.
It would be impossible to create a balanced game with a Hulk that could gain infinite attack dice, nor would it be very interesting I think. This "Hulk beats everything" concept is new to me, but looking around it seems like its been building in the comics for a while. My personal favorite Hulk stories are the ones where he has limits, high as they may be. Characters that can overcome EVERYTHING remove all sense of danger and drama, I think. Even Superman has weaknesses.
ares834
June 11th, 2007, 10:30 PM
He will be good but compared to the surfer and thanos he will die.
Mego Stretch Hulk
July 7th, 2007, 09:45 AM
So now that the Hulk stats are finally up. Who owes me a big fat kiss and needs to tell me sorry.
With his potenial 12 attack, he is the strongest one there is.
With his 370 cost, he is the games most expensive figure making him, the strongest one there is.
So what does this all prove?
HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Havokscry
July 7th, 2007, 09:50 AM
So now that the Hulk stats are finally up. Who owes me a big fat kiss and needs to tell me sorry.
With his potenial 12 attack, he is the strongest one there is.
With his 370 cost, he is the games most expensive figure making him, the strongest one there is.
So what does this all prove?
HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Until they release a Thor figure.. :twisted:
Mego Stretch Hulk
July 7th, 2007, 09:52 AM
If you want to put a wager on that, PM me. I'll bet you the Hulk is still strongr AND more expensive.
:twisted:
skyknight
July 7th, 2007, 10:05 AM
As for kind of another thought...I was always hoping when we hit high three hundred point figs it would be characters like Odin and Thor and such. I was a bit irked at how powerful the Hulk is. That kind of power i thought would be reserved for things like the Norse Gods or possibly the Generals if Hasbro ever released them. I think they went a bit overboard on the Hulk :? Oh well.
jcb231
July 7th, 2007, 10:31 AM
So now that the Hulk stats are finally up. Who owes me a big fat kiss and needs to tell me sorry.
With his potenial 12 attack, he is the strongest one there is.
With his 370 cost, he is the games most expensive figure making him, the strongest one there is.
So what does this all prove?
HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
He's still not as strong as you seemed to want him to be.
Plus he can get 11 attack dice potentially....unless you are assuming height. But if you're assuming height why not assume glyphs, tAelord, Finn, Captain America, or any other boosts? Doesn't make sense to assume height. He's an 11 on his own.
Mego Stretch Hulk
July 7th, 2007, 11:24 AM
And can anyone do a 11 attack on there own??
he,he,he,he... :wink:
jcb231
July 7th, 2007, 12:25 PM
And can anyone do a 11 attack on there own??
he,he,he,he... :wink:
I'm not saying he's not the strongest attacking figure currently in the game, just that he's not the end-all be-all of Heroscape. Attack strength isn't everything. He's very beatable. I'd actually argue that Thanos is a better investment.
Havokscry
July 7th, 2007, 02:38 PM
As for kind of another thought...I was always hoping when we hit high three hundred point figs it would be characters like Odin and Thor and such. I was a bit irked at how powerful the Hulk is. That kind of power i thought would be reserved for things like the Norse Gods or possibly the Generals if Hasbro ever released them. I think they went a bit overboard on the Hulk :? Oh well.
I think they went far more overboard with the Abomination. Since when did he become an "A-list" powerful supervillain in the Marvel Universe? To think they have him valued the same as the Silver Surfer. :roll:
I agree, if they make Hulk more expensive than a god, then I'll do a double :roll: :roll:
JediNate
July 7th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Sky's right, Hulk shouldn't have been this powerful. If future Marvelscape sets come out they will have to make the Norse Gods (Marvel calls them Eternals) and the Valkyrie generals (fingers crossed :D ) ridiculously expensive. As for Abomination I give him a big BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. The Leader could have been a more possible choice or not even a hulk rival. I mean all are rivals except Iron man and Doom so it wouldn't be like it didnt fit. Owell....
NecroBlade
July 7th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Plus he can get 11 attack dice potentially.Thank you for teaching them math.
Mego Stretch Hulk
July 8th, 2007, 08:16 AM
And can anyone do a 11 attack on there own??
he,he,he,he... :wink:
I'm not saying he's not the strongest attacking figure currently in the game, just that he's not the end-all be-all of Heroscape. Attack strength isn't everything. He's very beatable. I'd actually argue that Thanos is a better investment.
I never said the Hulk was not beatable. I said he was going to be the strongest. Check out my posts in this thread. And I don't care how many more Marvel sets come out, no other character will have the Hulk's power.
You can bet on this... :lol:
jcb231
July 8th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Sky's right, Hulk shouldn't have been this powerful. If future Marvelscape sets come out they will have to make the Norse Gods (Marvel calls them Eternals) and the Valkyrie generals (fingers crossed :D ) ridiculously expensive. As for Abomination I give him a big BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. The Leader could have been a more possible choice or not even a hulk rival. I mean all are rivals except Iron man and Doom so it wouldn't be like it didnt fit. Owell....
Why would the generals have to be the strongest figure?
Nobody ever said they were the greatest warriors in Valhalla.....they summon others to do their fighting.
GreyOwl
July 8th, 2007, 10:29 PM
I never said the Hulk was not beatable. I said he was going to be the strongest. Check out my posts in this thread. And I don't care how many more Marvel sets come out, no other character will have the Hulk's power.
You can bet on this... :lol:
That depends on which characters are released. The Marvel Universe has plenty of characters more powerful than the Hulk, though they would be more "cosmic" characters (like Galactus). Actually, I thought Thanos would have been more powerful than the Hulk. In the comics, isn't that the case?
markwars
July 9th, 2007, 09:56 AM
So now that the Hulk stats are finally up. Who owes me a big fat kiss and needs to tell me sorry.
With his potenial 12 attack, he is the strongest one there is.
With his 370 cost, he is the games most expensive figure making him, the strongest one there is.
So what does this all prove?
HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
He's still no match for the castle door.
JediNate
July 9th, 2007, 11:26 AM
jcb231, Typically people rally themselves around strong leaders. If the 5 valkyrie generals arn't powerful why didn't the warriors they summoned just say, "screw Valhalla", beat up said general, then leave for parts unknown. I have to believe the generals are beings of immense power to keep these massive armies under their control. And greyowl is right, Thanos is on an entirely different level than hulk.
NecroBlade
July 9th, 2007, 11:26 AM
He's still no match for the castle door.Sadly, that's too true. I'm going to have a permanent house rule in effect that the castle only has 5 life.
GreyOwl
July 9th, 2007, 12:43 PM
But leaders can be strong in other ways besides combat skills. Force of personality or wielding power in other ways (political, etc.). Just look at history. Napoleon, Julius Caesar, and even people like Hitler. They were powerful leaders, but not necessarily the best at fighting.
jcb231, Typically people rally themselves around strong leaders. If the 5 valkyrie generals arn't powerful why didn't the warriors they summoned just say, "screw Valhalla", beat up said general, then leave for parts unknown. I have to believe the generals are beings of immense power to keep these massive armies under their control. And greyowl is right, Thanos is on an entirely different level than hulk.
jcb231
July 9th, 2007, 01:32 PM
jcb231, Typically people rally themselves around strong leaders. If the 5 valkyrie generals arn't powerful why didn't the warriors they summoned just say, "screw Valhalla", beat up said general, then leave for parts unknown. I have to believe the generals are beings of immense power to keep these massive armies under their control. And greyowl is right, Thanos is on an entirely different level than hulk.
There are different kinds of strength.
Do we assume George Washington could beat up every man in America? Or Napoleon every man in France?
In temrs of game design, I see no reason why they'd have to be the most powerful figure....they'd just need to have some nice army boosting stats, like a beefed up flagbearer.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be powerful, just that they don't need to be 400 points or something absurd like that. They could easily fall into the 180-250 range, perhaps going as high as 300 depending on what else the deiginser have planned around them.
Wytefang
July 9th, 2007, 01:35 PM
As for kind of another thought...I was always hoping when we hit high three hundred point figs it would be characters like Odin and Thor and such. I was a bit irked at how powerful the Hulk is. That kind of power i thought would be reserved for things like the Norse Gods or possibly the Generals if Hasbro ever released them. I think they went a bit overboard on the Hulk :? Oh well.
Well thank goodness that he's at least compatible with the normal, 'vanilla' HeroScape figures! :wink:
Havokscry
July 9th, 2007, 06:11 PM
I would have liked them to add some kind of "Banner" effect to knock him down a peg. Hulk's worst enemy has always been Banner.
JediNate
July 9th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Jcb231 and greyowl, my apologizes you guys are completely right. I guess i was thinking more of a fantasy type leader such as Sauron for example. But personally I would like to see the generals (if they are ever made) as juggernaut powerhouses. O and your right about Washington and Napoleon, the two toughest guys ever from the US and France are Teddy Roosevelt and Zidane obviously. :D :D
IAmBatman
July 9th, 2007, 11:30 PM
I think it'd be cool if the Generals could, in the middle of the game, draft units that you didn't already have in your army. :twisted:
By way of a D20 roll, of course. My personal vision is that they wouldn't be very tough in actual combat, though.
Wytefang
July 9th, 2007, 11:32 PM
That's a very cool and entirely appropriate idea for a General figure's powers.
I'd like to suggest that you post that as its own thread and start a discussion about it! Really great idea for a General figure, IamBatman. Wow.
IAmBatman
July 9th, 2007, 11:37 PM
That's a very cool and entirely appropriate idea for a General figure's powers.
I'd like to suggest that you post that as its own thread and start a discussion about it! Really great idea for a General figure, IamBatman. Wow.
heh, maybe I'll make some General customs in my regular customs thread one of these days. That thread is sort of my neglected child for the most part, though, as per my nickname.
edit: I do have a Neuron custom on the way one of these days that's got a similar power called "Revamp" though. Basically with a roll of a certain number you can swap out figures you have for figures of a higher point value, essentially revamping the characters like Neuron did in the comics.
rdhight
July 10th, 2007, 12:15 AM
How about this for a general:
CONTINGENCY PLAN
When all units on an Army Card you control are destroyed, you may immediately move one unrevealed Order Marker from that card to any other Army Card you control.
IAmBatman
July 10th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Hmm ... I like that. I may have to steal that for something. :D
ArgosCap
July 10th, 2007, 03:10 AM
Wha??? IAmBatman, I am shocked at you! I thought you were our resident DC expert! It's Neron, not Neuron! I'm so disillusioned now!
:-(
IAmBatman
July 10th, 2007, 03:22 AM
Wha??? IAmBatman, I am shocked at you! I thought you were our resident DC expert! It's Neron, not Neuron! I'm so disillusioned now!
:-(
psh, w/e. I wiki my customs on one leg at a time like everybody else. :P
allskulls
July 10th, 2007, 04:13 AM
How about this for a general:
CONTINGENCY PLAN
When all units on an Army Card you control are destroyed, you may immediately move one unrevealed Order Marker from that card to any other Army Card you control.
Love it!
Hmm ... I like that. I may have to steal that for something. :D
Me too :P
Sounds like an Oracle ability.
IAmBatman
July 10th, 2007, 04:51 AM
I know, I was thinking Oracle too. I may have to retcon here now ...
NecroBlade
July 10th, 2007, 08:29 AM
How about this for a general:
CONTINGENCY PLAN
When all units on an Army Card you control are destroyed, you may immediately move one unrevealed Order Marker from that card to any other Army Card you control.That's a brilliant custom ability. :up:
rdhight
July 10th, 2007, 12:33 PM
How about this for a general:
CONTINGENCY PLAN
When all units on an Army Card you control are destroyed, you may immediately move one unrevealed Order Marker from that card to any other Army Card you control.That's a brilliant custom ability. :up:
Well thanks, guys. I've had it sitting there in HCC for a while without a figure to put it on. Hope someone gets some use out of it.
IAmBatman
July 10th, 2007, 02:14 PM
I'm pencilling it in for my Deathstroke custom. He was a bit overpowered with the Counterintelligence power I gave him - and this is kind of like a more limited version of that. Well, Counterintelligence is really an unlimited type of Master Manipulator power, but they're all interelated.
GreyOwl
July 10th, 2007, 03:56 PM
I was actually thinking of using that special for Oracle, as well. Not that I have an Oracle custom, but it might make me decide to do one. I'm thinking it would apply only between certain figures, the ones usually associated with Oracle. Maybe those figures would have a "Bird of Prey" ability or something...So when a Bird of Prey figure is destroyed, you can move the order markers only to another Bird of Prey figure. Now if only the Oracle HeroClix wasn't so freakin' expensive! :cry:
NecroBlade
July 10th, 2007, 04:42 PM
rdhight, just letting you know I used your Contingency Plan on General Grievous, completing his card perfectly, IMO.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/skeletalwolf28/Heroscape/StarWars/GeneralGrievous.jpg
There's the card, and you can comment on him and my other Star Wars customs in my thread here:
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=4259&start=180
allskulls
July 10th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Nice, NecroBlade! He is perfect...but maybe you should add a COUGH ability :D
Good choice for the card template too :wink:
NecroBlade
July 10th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Nice, NecroBlade! He is perfect...but maybe you should add a COUGH ability :D
Good choice for the card template too :wink:Thanks, but perhaps you could move that suggestion to my custom thread, so we can leave this one for HULK. ;)
IAmBatman
July 10th, 2007, 05:44 PM
I'm getting some use out of certain metallic templates as well today as I work on some Metal Men customs. Lovin' how they look, Allskulls.
NecroBlade
July 10th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Lovin' how they look, Allskulls.Yes, major props there.
rdhight
July 13th, 2007, 01:10 AM
I was actually thinking of using that special for Oracle, as well. Not that I have an Oracle custom, but it might make me decide to do one. I'm thinking it would apply only between certain figures, the ones usually associated with Oracle. Maybe those figures would have a "Bird of Prey" ability or something...So when a Bird of Prey figure is destroyed, you can move the order markers only to another Bird of Prey figure. Now if only the Oracle HeroClix wasn't so freakin' expensive! :cry:
Now that I see it on Grievous, I think it really works better for an uncaring master villain. He can order his troops in, and if they get killed, his scheme moves forward over their dead bodies. Good "general" characters, like Oracle, should probably be more about helping your fighters accomplish more while alive, and keep alive, rather than mitigating your death.
GreyOwl
July 13th, 2007, 01:26 AM
I don't know, it's not as if you're not caring if they die. I see it like this - the death is a necessary sacrifice and the fight must continue so they didn't die in vain. I like the ability, because it fits pretty well with both ways of thinking.
rdhight
July 13th, 2007, 02:59 AM
I don't know, it's not as if you're not caring if they die. I see it like this - the death is a necessary sacrifice and the fight must continue so they didn't die in vain. I like the ability, because it fits pretty well with both ways of thinking.
Thanks again. Back on topic, I think the Marvel designers did a good job of letting each of the characters do their own thing and letting the power levels fall where they may, whether it's Hulk's thing of being the strongest one there is at a record-setting power level or Spidey's thing of being annoying and hard to kill at a relatively low power level. Hulk, Thanos, Abomination, and the Surfer have to be close to the top of the scale to feel right.
But it's still a team game, and I hope they keep the unlimited weight class pretty sparse. Down the road a few years, if the most common matchups are something like Surfer/Thanos/Superman/Green Lantern vs. Galactus/Q9, I'll be disappointed. Too many well-rounded loners take away from the fun of team-building. Some generalists are good, but I hope armies made out of a few big generalists lumped together don't become the strongest.
CandyMakingMaster
August 9th, 2007, 03:52 PM
He's the highest point value so far... so I guess so! :lol:
But points aren't everything... :duh:
Taylosun
August 14th, 2007, 09:20 PM
i got the marvel base set today and me and my mom have been playing with the hulk all day.when you play with the regular heroscape games witht he 400-500 point costs hulk is a no-no.you sick the marro warriors on him and he's out and you're down more than likely your only hero so you've basically lost.if you play with the marvel costs then go for it.you can have hulk and about 700 more points,although i think the marvel figures are WAY to overpowered.
thanos failed miserably when i used him.you have 1/10 of a chance to revive him but he is good while he's alive,but maybe not 300 points worth.
i HATE spiderman.i played the avengers against the regular heroscape figures and venom (regulars included krug,su-bak-na,krav maga agents,izumi samurai,grimnak[chomped captain america]me-burq-sa,and 4 more people) the regular ones killed everybody except spiderman and it took about 10 turns to kill him because of the stupid spider sense 11 all the while he was picking people off with the web attack.plus he could dodge with spidey sense then go web swing behind the little building thing that came with it to get out of sight then web swing back on next time and attack.
when someone else picks the hulk,if i wanted him,i just pick abomination since they're basically the same thing except the rage smash which is one thing that makes hulk so good.when me and mom were playing under tempest's cover from the regular heroscape set.i was the person that had to get to the glyph,i picked hulk and got there in 3 rounds.
Squadshed
August 19th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Silver Surfer is, in my opinion, the most powerful. Of course, when my brother and I play, I have the Hulk, he has Doctor Doom, he takes control of my mind and then tells me to go jump into lava.
Grim
August 20th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Surfer is the FASTEST.
But
Hulk is the STRONGEST.
Zombie Hoard
September 6th, 2007, 07:30 PM
Too much.
riledguy
September 19th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Silver Surfer is, in my opinion, the most powerful. Of course, when my brother and I play, I have the Hulk, he has Doctor Doom, he takes control of my mind and then tells me to go jump into lava.
I personally like Thanos more then the Silver Surfer. I like that his attack can get height bonus. Since he has flight it makes it pretty easy for him to add a die or two to that already impressive 6. I had one game where he was tossing 9 dice at folks... not to mention I have been able to get his power to work every game I have used him which has been absolutely huge.
The Silver Surfers Cosmic blast power fails me so much I just assume now it won't work. Still I want to like him as he is the Silver Surfer and it is just cool to have him. If only his regular attack was not 4. That is really what hurts him for me.
IAmBatman
September 19th, 2007, 06:39 PM
Yeah, the Cosmic Blast power has never kicked off for me either. Which is strange, b/c Rejected by Death is a regular occurance for me as well.
Lord Pyre
September 20th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Heh, I've never gotten Rejected to work. But I still use him the most of all the Marvels....
riledguy
September 20th, 2007, 12:04 PM
Heh, I've never gotten Rejected to work. But I still use him the most of all the Marvels....
Who else are you fielding with him? Also You are throwing him out first right?
Lord Pyre
September 25th, 2007, 10:55 AM
I should also mention that he only died three times in all the games I've played with him.... :lol:
Tiak
October 11th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Well we have played about six games of Heroscape so far and the Hulk is ruling the board. I can't wait for the next Marvel expansion. I just don't understand why It's going to be the Fantastic Three! Why is Reed Richards Not in the set!?
bjmorga
March 22nd, 2008, 02:14 PM
My friend and I played a quick round of Marvel Heroscape last night after our regular Heroscape game. Emphasis on quick. He ended up being the heroes while I was saddled with the villains. Within a couple of rounds, he killed all five villains with Hulk like they were nothing. It was awesome seeing him in action!
guido
March 22nd, 2008, 07:23 PM
I'm hoping that The Thing has the kind of endurance to withstand the might of The Hulk. I highly anticipate his release.
artemiscorso
July 14th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Not only should the Hulk not be more powerful than the Silver Surfer, he shouldn't be more powerful than Thanos or Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom gave the entire Fantastic Four fits, while Hulk had pitched battles against the Thing. The Surfer routinely dispatched characters with hulk-like powers. The marvelscape creators didn't really follow the comic based power levels of the characters at all. NO WAY does Captain America have a more
powerful attack than the Silver Surfer. Ridiculous. Why didn't they give
Spider-Man and Venom a power that more naturally fits their webbing, like maybe a chance at webbing up enemies and removing order markers. I do like the sculpts for the most part, and they did do some creative things like Thanos rejected by death. I think any real comic fans would say some of the power levels are a bit screwy, but hey, its just a game. The
characters are still fun to play.
IAmBatman
July 14th, 2008, 07:49 PM
Good thing I only like the fake comic books then!
ares834
October 19th, 2008, 11:25 PM
Not only should the Hulk not be more powerful than the Silver Surfer, he shouldn't be more powerful than Thanos or Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom gave the entire Fantastic Four fits, while Hulk had pitched battles against the Thing. The Surfer routinely dispatched characters with hulk-like powers. The marvelscape creators didn't really follow the comic based power levels of the characters at all. NO WAY does Captain America have a more
powerful attack than the Silver Surfer. Ridiculous. Why didn't they give
Spider-Man and Venom a power that more naturally fits their webbing, like maybe a chance at webbing up enemies and removing order markers. I do like the sculpts for the most part, and they did do some creative things like Thanos rejected by death. I think any real comic fans would say some of the power levels are a bit screwy, but hey, its just a game. The
characters are still fun to play.
Two words: PLANET HULK!
I mean hulk was ridiculily overpowered in tose comics, he took on nealry all the supes.
Yodaking
October 20th, 2008, 03:11 PM
Not only should the Hulk not be more powerful than the Silver Surfer, he shouldn't be more powerful than Thanos or Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom gave the entire Fantastic Four fits, while Hulk had pitched battles against the Thing. The Surfer routinely dispatched characters with hulk-like powers. The marvelscape creators didn't really follow the comic based power levels of the characters at all. NO WAY does Captain America have a more
powerful attack than the Silver Surfer. Ridiculous. Why didn't they give
Spider-Man and Venom a power that more naturally fits their webbing, like maybe a chance at webbing up enemies and removing order markers. I do like the sculpts for the most part, and they did do some creative things like Thanos rejected by death. I think any real comic fans would say some of the power levels are a bit screwy, but hey, its just a game. The
characters are still fun to play.
I'm no comics expert by any means, but based on what I know about the various characters I would have to agree that the heroscape versions are not balanced correctly.
I also wish they would have focused on putting out some of the most popular characters first. They may have pulled more players into the game if Wolverine (as well as a few other X-men) and the Punisher were available in that first release. Now I doubt we will ever get official versions of those characters since the sales have been so slow.
Plus I don't get why they released 5 villians and 5 heros but then didn't make the points totals of each side match up.
Wike the Great
October 22nd, 2008, 10:56 PM
The Hulk is uber powerful. Its like trying to beat a wall with a rubber chicken. I don't think I've ever been on the recieving end of his fury (then again I have a horrible memory), but I have been behind the rage & destruction caused by him. I was playing my friend & he couldn't take him down for the longest time(I can remember some things, typically pointless or my own achievments). I believe I took out his 4 Gladiatrons, 3 Dzu-Teh, & 3 Blastatrons. Bare in mind that it was a fairly large map & it took a while for his figures to reach mine. I believe I beat his Abomination & then his Spider Man finally took him down. So, yeah, he's is INCREDIBLY, he he :D, strong.
guido
October 27th, 2008, 04:35 AM
I once killed the Hulk, Thanos and Iron Man all in one move... with Braxas. Therefor, Braxas = strongest character ever. What is our criteria for strong? If we are going by sheer destructive nature, I'm going to have to pick the auto killers.
gorthan313
October 27th, 2008, 11:02 AM
My answer to the question of if the Hulk is the strongest character ever: NO.
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