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earlofwessex
June 16th, 2006, 06:51 AM
I've been working on converting my RAFM Space 1889 Martians for Heroscape play. If you don't know Space 1889, the Martians are something like E.R. Burroughs' "John Carter of Mars" Martians - an ancient race of red men who have slowly lost the knowledge of their ancestors as their planet dries up. They live in beautiful cities beside canals that bring water from the poles. If you want to see a pic of some similar figs (in a smaller scale):
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/images/gallery/More%2BImperial%2BMartians.jpg

A few notes on my philosophy. For me the most important element here is theme. I want this to feel like a Martian army - this is more important than having it "rock." The second most important thing is balance - hence the lack of really creative special abilities.

In the primary sources (old science fiction), Martian armies tend to be swarmy and VERY hero-driven. Martians with a leader do well, without a leader, their performance is lackluster. That's why I have given almost all the special abilities to the heroes, rather than the squads, so that if you kill a hero, it really hurts the Martian's performance. I'd appreciate help. Here they are. (The Hero names are a work in progress).

Martian Musketeers (3 per squad) W:1 M:6 R:6 A:2 D:1
Common Squad - Martian Soldiers - Valiant - Size 5
Cost 40

Martian Infantry (4 per squad) W:1 M: 6 R:1 A:2 D:2
Common Squad - Martian Soldiers Valiant - Size 5
Special Ability: Hedgehog: If an adjacent Martian Musketeer is attacked from a range of 1, you may switch Martian Infantry figure with the Musketeer - Martian Infantry figure receives the attack. You may not switch any figure in this way more than once in a turn.
Cost: 40

Martian Royal Guard (3 per squad) W:1 M:5 R:4 A:2 D:4
Unique Squad - Martian Guards - Valiant - Size 5
Special Ability: When MRG attack an adjacent figure, they get +1 Attack die
Cost: 55

Oordzdaz W:5 M:7 R:1 A:3 D:3
Unique Hero - Martian Warlord - Valiant - Size 5
After moving Oordzdaz, you may take a turn with any Martian common squad you control
Hero of Song: All Martian squad figures within 4 clear LOS hexes of Oordzdaz get +1 Defence die
Cost: 85

Rooksdak W:4 M:7 R:1 A:4 D:4
Unique Hero - Martian Prince - Valiant - Size 7 [He is mounted]
After moving Rooksdak, you may take a turn with any Martian common squad you control
Hero of Tale: All Martian squad figures within 4 clear LOS hexes of Roodsdak get +1 Attack die
Cost: 100

Martian Captain W:4 M:6 R:1 A:3 A:3 D:3
Unique Hero (Common?) - Martian Officer - Valiant - Size 5
After moving Martain Captain, you may take a turn with any Martian common squad you control
Special ability: Adjacent Martian squad members get +1 attack die
Cost: 80

Martian Ranger W:1 M:6 R:7 A:2 D:2
Common Hero - Martian Ranger - Valiant - Size 5
Martian figures with a range greater than one adjacent to Martian Ranger get +1 Range and +1 Attack, this does not effect Martian Rangers.
Martian Ranger only spends 1/2 a movement point for every rise in elevation.
Cost: 30

Thanks in advance.

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Interesting ideas... Surprised that no one else has given you any feedback yet! Have you got any pix of what you have acheived so far? Would be interested in seeing them!

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 05:27 PM
Ya it would, I would jump through hoops to see a good custom. (Im to fat to fit through a hoop, that is saying a lot)

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 05:32 PM
When I picture martians, I imagine the Mekon guy from Dan Dare... Now they would make a good selection of units....

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Not seen um, yet.

:jotun: :nopics: :jotun:

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 05:46 PM
big, green round head. Mekon's soldiers have smaller heads and look very martian like. if ya do a google image search on mekon, tons come up

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 05:52 PM
I will thanks

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 05:54 PM
O the bulbus headed alians, those are classic. I think those would be awesome, but they are also a little old, in the tooth, as well as overused, in many cases. However, a squad for HS would be awesome, why dont you do one Rob!

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 06:01 PM
http://www.dan-dare.net/Dan%20JPEGs/Mekon%202%20JPEG.jpg

Thats the Mekon, then there are the Treen Soldiers...

http://www.dandare.org/dan/aliens/venus/treen6.jpg

http://www.dandare.org/dan/aliens/venus/treen5.jpg

Sure there must be some Treen figures out there somewhere that would be the right size for Heroscape...[/img]

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 06:03 PM
O the bulbus headed alians, those are classic. I think those would be awesome, but they are also a little old, in the tooth, as well as overused, in many cases. However, a squad for HS would be awesome, why dont you do one Rob!

If I can find suitable figures, I would give it a whirl... Reckon that they would probably be better if they were bright blue instead of green though - kind of like a futuristic Grut!!

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 06:15 PM
NIMO, I think they would need to be green, or grey, to look like a people unto themselvs.

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 06:20 PM
reckon green would be too samey, like you said before (done to death) grey could be good, or maybe even a light shade of purple. more I think about it, more I feel that its a great idea... must find some figures!

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Hmm... Been looking on Ebay, but I can't find any Treen or Mekon figures at all. I'm sure that there must be some out there somewhere...

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 06:34 PM
Are you gifted with a sculpting knife?

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 06:41 PM
... not particularly. The full extent of my craft-knife prowess is the ability to make diapers and dummys, as you saw on my Grimnak Jnr custom.

Just having a look on Ebay for other suitable aliens as I write this....

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 07:09 PM
O that was yours, now I now why your name looks familiar. He was intresting.

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I remember that you didnt like the poop idea :lol:

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 07:22 PM
No I did not :? it was, well, it was just a little strange. Actualy it was a lot strange. He did look ok though.

robaula
July 10th, 2006, 07:25 PM
heh heh... I've had no joy looking on Ebay for any martian type alien figures that would be suitable... Guess I'll have another look tomorrow. Gonna hit the sack now - half past midnight here. Guess the night is still young where you are!

Widigo
July 10th, 2006, 07:28 PM
What night its supper time. Good Night.

robaula
July 11th, 2006, 04:48 PM
I've had a look today for any decent martian looking miniatures, and I think I'm gonna give up. I cannot find any that look decent. If anyone else can find decent looking ones, please post details here!

LilNewbie
July 11th, 2006, 04:59 PM
It really depends on what you think Martians look like. If you want to go with some classic views, say Edgar Rice Burroughs vision, then you could use some MK figures that do look like the Tharks:

MK Omens set:

Darkfen Blade (#s 22,23,24 )

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/MKOM/MKOM_022.jpg

Shyft Fiend (#s 25,26,27 )

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/MKOM/MKOM_025.jpg

Shyft Summoner (#s 69,70,71 )

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/MKOM/MKOM_069.jpg


You could even use some Skinnies from Startship Troopers Mini game from Mongoose Publishing (you would just have to paint them):

Skinnie Militia
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/sstskinmilitia.jpg

Skinnie Soldiers
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/product_images/full_size/sstskinsoldiers.jpg

Hope this helps out!

Newb.

robaula
July 12th, 2006, 03:26 AM
Thanks Newb, the Skinnies look very intriguing. Couldnt view the MK picutres though... just came up as little red crosses :?

robaula
July 12th, 2006, 04:44 PM
How about some "grey" type aliens - like the ones associated with Roswell? Having them zapping around the landscape would be kind of interesting...

robaula
July 22nd, 2006, 09:57 AM
Wow! Have found perfect martians!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f40/robaula/retrovian1.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f40/robaula/retrovian2wargamessupplydump.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f40/robaula/retrovian3.jpg

Widigo
July 22nd, 2006, 11:33 AM
cool

robaula
July 22nd, 2006, 02:58 PM
They just look to me look a run-of-the-mill regular martian would look.

Widigo
July 22nd, 2006, 08:43 PM
They do, are there more, or would you have to bend them and green stuf them.

robaula
September 8th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Thats the lot, Widigo. Potential for customising though.

(ah... just realised that this thread was probably dead...)