2 attack dice from height advantage

[bobofett]

When do you get the 2nd attack die from height advantage. :?:

[netherspirit]

Check out the 2nd edition rulebook.

http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=432

[bobofett]

how did i know you would be the first one to respond

[netherspirit]

how did i know you would be the first one to respond

;) Its on Page 14, under Height Advantage.

[Su-Bak-Na]

When the figure is 10 levels higher then the figure you are attacking.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

When the figure is 10 levels higher then the figure you are attacking.

Actually:

When your figure is 10 levels higher than the height of the figure you're attacking, then you get 2 extra attack dice from height:

From the 2nd edition rules:

If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more levels higher then the height of the lower figure, the higher figure rolls two extra dice.

Note: 'then' should be 'than'

[Tiberius]

Thanks, there was a big argument about this in my last game. I was higher with the snipers and they were arguing it was too vague in the rule book to give me the bonus. Oh well.

[bobofett]

Just read the rule book and it says that the figure must be at least 10 levels higher than the height of the defending figure.

[netherspirit]

Thanks, there was a big argument about this in my last game. I was higher with the snipers and they were arguing it was too vague in the rule book to give me the bonus. Oh well.

I am not sure how the text from the rulebook that HEH posted could be considered vague. Seems pretty explicit to me. :shrug:

[Tiberius]

we were using a 1st edition rule book I believe. It only mentions you have stronger attack and defense for being higher, nothing specific. I will need to down load and print out the 2nd ed one. Now that I actually have a working printer as of today, my wife and I splurged and bought a new computer, monitor, speakers, printer, and all that jazz. The other one I had since 2000 and it wouldnt even boot up anymore.

[Oprime]

we were using a 1st edition rule book I believe. It only mentions you have stronger attack and defense for being higher, nothing specific. I will need to down load and print out the 2nd ed one. Now that I actually have a working printer as of today, my wife and I splurged and bought a new computer, monitor, speakers, printer, and all that jazz. The other one I had since 2000 and it wouldnt even boot up anymore.

The first ed. rule book caused me consternation on this issue as well.
You are not alone.

[bobofett]

I love your avi OPrime

Drakan rocks :!:

[Oprime]

Thanks.

Yeah, a great "sleeper" game

I actually named one of my cats "RYNN" :D

[gorillanator]

Wow I have been playing wrong this whole time.

I thought it was just ten levels higher.

No wonder I always failed my reading comprehension tests. :bang:

[skyknight]

I still only use the 1 bonus die because I hate friggin countin hexes. Especially when they are in the middle of heaps of tiles.

[Oprime]

I still only use the 1 bonus die because I hate friggin countin hexes. Especially when they are in the middle of heaps of tiles.

LOL, yeah, you would think with all the other "simple" rules for a "kids game" that just leave it at 10 or higher = 2 dice would be easier eh.

None of this , "well the character your targeting is 6 high and youre at 21 levels high so....21-6= 15...so yeah you get 2 dice....." BS

[GaryLASQ]

so is that a comment on the quality of the American Education system? no 8 year old would know what 21-6 equals?
:)

[Oprime]

Nah, its more a comment about my laziness :wink:

I understand the rule, I think it stays consistant with adjancy height issues.

Its just a pain in the.....

[geddy lifeson]

I myself don't like this rule and never use it. Counting hexes is a pain and since most people i know don't play with maps having that much height, it doesn't come into play that often anyway.

To me it makes no sense that being 1 hex higher gives an extra die but you have to be over ten more for that additional one. Don't get me started about having a 4 high figure on a higher hex attacking a huge fig that towers over them even with height.

[Aranas]

...Don't get me started about having a 4 high figure on a higher hex attacking a huge fig that towers over them even with height.

I agree :roll:

[jcb231]

I played against someone a while back that said that it's possible to get a second DEFENSE die for extreme height....it says nothing about this in the rulebook that I can find. Is this true? Do folks play this way?

There is a photo in the rulebook that is captioned along the lines of Syvaris having a MINOR height advantage, which lends credence to the idea of there being MAJOR height advantages, but I can't find anyplace that this is stated specifically.

[shakey_snake]

you need the second edition rulebook.
Check the stickies.

[morgonis]

Jcb, this might help make it a little clearer for you :)

When the figure is 10 levels higher then the figure you are attacking.

Actually:

When your figure is 10 levels higher than the height of the figure you're attacking, then you get 2 extra attack dice from height:

From the 2nd edition rules:

If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more levels higher then the height of the lower figure, the higher figure rolls two extra dice.

Note: 'then' should be 'than'


you will notice the direct quote simply states "dice" the reasoning is because the higher figure gets to use 2 extra Attck and Defense Dice...if hes attacking he gets the 2 free dice, and if hes deending he gets 2 free dice

[geddy lifeson]

I played against someone a while back that said that it's possible to get a second DEFENSE die for extreme height....it says nothing about this in the rulebook that I can find. Is this true? Do folks play this way?

There is a photo in the rulebook that is captioned along the lines of Syvaris having a MINOR height advantage, which lends credence to the idea of there being MAJOR height advantages, but I can't find anyplace that this is stated specifically.

I too wondered about this amny a time until someone on HQ pointed out the same thing about the rule sonly stating "dice", not attack nor defend specifically. It is easy to assume that if you are getting extra attack dice, the same should hold true for defense.

[UgolGnuzg]

The 3rd edition rules clarify in writing (not only in the picture) that you get additional dice for defending if having height advantage.

[Revdyer]

we were using a 1st edition rule book I believe. It only mentions you have stronger attack and defense for being higher, nothing specific. I will need to down load and print out the 2nd ed one. Now that I actually have a working printer as of today, my wife and I splurged and bought a new computer, monitor, speakers, printer, and all that jazz. The other one I had since 2000 and it wouldnt even boot up anymore.Down load the 3rd ed. though (SotM) and use it.
http://www.netherspirit.com/sotm.pdf

[Dragonmaster384]

I've played major height advantage wrong for 2 1/2 years! :shock: :duh: :passout:

[Jexik]

I've played major height advantage wrong for 2 1/2 years! :shock: :duh: :passout:

I played it wrong the first time I was on Migol's Tomb. Since the highest part of the map was 11 high, and most of the ground was 1, I thought that the map was designed with extreme height in mind.

I never used extreme height properly until I got my FotA. It comes into play a lot there, and it's pretty easy to count those hexes.