Defeating the Orcish Horde

[Phloid_and_D-Man]

I'm looking for tips and tricks in beating 500+ point orc bonding armies. Which characters should play well against them? What tactics work best? I have no way to practice against these armies as I have no bonding units in my collection (or only one half the combo). These armies are what I'm looking at beating.

Codeman's 500pt Orc Army
Mimring - 150
Krug - 120
Arrow Gruts x 3 - 120
Swogs x 4 - 100

Su-Bak-Na's 500pt Orc Army
Heavy Gruts x2 140
Ornak or Tornak 100
Blade Gruts x3 120
Grimnak 120

gamjuven's 500pt Orc Army
Krug-120
arrow gruts x3-120
grimnak-120
heavy gruts-70
swog rider x2-50

[gamjuven]

Well I just had my friend play with my army above and this army beat it pretty easily, altho the map and skill of play on my opponent's part could have been a big factor:

Q9 180
Nakita Agents 120
Laglor 110
Deathreavers x2 80

total: 490

The key is to tie up the orc units. If you can tie up krug and shoot him up my army becomes much worse, same goes with Grimnak. Just make sure you use a lot of deathreavers to tie up krug, or else you'll just make him uber-powerful and ready to destroy Q9 or anything else in your army. Nakita agents serve well in disabling any annoying arrow grut firepower. Any ranged armies can do fairly well against an orc army as long as you have some kind of slow-down unit like the deathreavers to tie up the big guys like Krug. If you can stop those guys, you can stop an orc army. Also, always remember to take out the helper units first, such as swog riders or grimnak. Don't bother targetting the little orc units unless you take out the guys supporting them. That always seems to work.

Also you could practice against proxies. Although I hate doing that, if you are low on budget or don't have the units you need, it can help. Hope that helps

ps: I'm very flattered you picked my army as one of the armies to try and beat. Good luck!

[scorpiusx]

For Subakna's army:

Braxas
deathreavers X2
Nilfheim
Dumatef

I don't have a second set of reavers, but here is my idea. Have the flantooth go out first and kill an orc or two or however many. When and if he dies send out the rats and mess with the orcs. Have Nilfheim keep Chompy away from the rats and have Braxas start breathing on the blue barbarians. Either of the dragons will take out the other orc champion later.

[Tiberius]

gladiatrons x2
blastatrons x 2
krav maga agents
Laglor

I beat two different orc armies and a mixed army with orcs in it at the columbus tourney with this army. It worked quite well taking away thier disengage and thier numbers. Super range that clips them down before they can do much.

[Aldin]

Phloid,

Try proxying! Go to the Gallery and look for the card of the unit you'd like to use, print it up or copy its stats and use other figs to represent them on the board. Great way to test stuff.

Orc armies, in my experience, hate Braxas, Q9, Nilfheim and counterstrike capable units(melee only). They are also not big fans of the 4th Mass, or Warriors of Ashra(melee only).

~Aldin, carrying a bigger stick

[Stealth Dodge]

The AE can dominate Orc armies. Just drop the AE, kill all the Swogs and suddenly most of their army is now worthless.

[Codeman]

The AE can dominate Orc armies. Just drop the AE, kill all the Swogs and suddenly most of their army is now worthless.

That sounds simple, you left out the part about getting them deployed, and then once you get that accomplished you have to roll and get initiative otherwise your soldiers along with your plan are toast :oops: .

If you can deploy them early and get initiative…I will agree with your statement but those ate two big ifs that have to happen together. If that happens they can dominate anyone or at least put a big hurt on :wink:

[player_of_volleyball]

man my orcish horde is sucking cause i only have 2 squads of arrow gruts.

but getting back on topic now. The AE are a great way to counter them. I think another great is counter is johnny or james with their shotgun special. usually they are near each other so that they can stay strong. Another poissble counter is Imperium IMO, they can get 6 attacks in hopefully enough to kill things so they cant get attack with their weak defense.

[gamjuven]

man my orcish horde is sucking cause i only have 2 squads of arrow gruts.

but getting back on topic now. The AE are a great way to counter them. I think another great is counter is johnny or james with their shotgun special. usually they are near each other so that they can stay strong. Another poissble counter is Imperium IMO, they can get 6 attacks in hopefully enough to kill things so they cant get attack with their weak defense.

true true.