GENCON Events All Approved!!

[Grungebob]

Ok, so I've laid some preliminary groundwork in finding support for our events this year. We have the means available with the help of Hasbro and our lovely Sandra to have some good and diverse events this year. So now since we have some time (submission needs to be finalized by Feb 12th) I think it would be cool to get some input from the community as to what type of events and prizes etc motivate you. Chime in y'all!!

For the chamionship is a two day Championship still OK or do folks think it needs to be just one day?

Last year the win-a-waves were a huge success, should we do more of those this year?

Ninthdoc will be running our Marvel events so he might need some ideas as we go along as well.

[LilNewbie]

Win-a-Waves were great especially how you ran them in groups of 8 players so, yes!

Championship being two days is fine and it might need to be with the turn out that HS will draw this time.

The Mindshackle tourney was a great idea.

Some ideas:
1. No-range tourney
2. 100-120 point tourney
3. Unique-only tourney
4. Common-only tourney

After we get an idea of how the Marvel Game plays it will be easier to decide on tournament structure for that game. Way to go, Ninthdoc!

Newb.

[Grungebob]

Interesting Newb. i think Spider poison won several events last year. It would be cool if there were different categories that a person could try to win in...

[Doc_Savage]

Sadly, I cannot attend...

1x MS Draft 400 pts.

Both players get 10 min total to draft from 1 Master Set. No Stalling.


Marvel 2 on 2 Heroes Vs. Villains.

[toddrew]

I'm hoping to make it out there, and after traveling all that way, you can be sure I'm staying at least two days :) Though, unless there's a consolation round, one will probably be enough for me, as far as the tournament goes :lol:

What you've got going sounds great. Niche games like Newb's suggesting would be wonderful. (Yes, Newb, I am following you around the threads and complimenting every post you make :lol: )

[ninthdoc]

I really like Newb's No Range, All Common, and All Unique tourney ideas. It would be cool to have a coliseum atmosphere for the No Range Tourney. Anyone have the skills to make us a hella cool coliseum shell to put around the map(s)? There was a pretty good one at a Battletech table last year to depict Solaris VII. That would be awesome!

[LilNewbie]

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(Yes, Newb, I am following you around the threads and complimenting every post you make :lol: )

LOL! I'll give you 5 years to quit doing that. ;)

Hmmm...a coliseum event sounds awesome. Especially with all the talented people here making a nice map.

Newb.

[ChaosChild]

Championship - 2 days is good.

Win-a-Waves - The way you did this last year was a great way for more people to win prizes. So, yes, it would be good to have them.

Single General - I would like to play in this type again. Maybe someone else will play Einar this time. Make me earn that Best Einar Player shirt.

Mindshackle - This was a good idea but, there weren't enough Mindshackle attempts. It mostly played like a protect Ne-Gok-Sa tourney. Ke-Mo-Shi adds some new options to this format, though. Two come to mind: making both NGS and KMS mandatory with winning by Mindshackling or killing one of them or getting a choice of NGS or KMS for your army. Lowering the point total from 400 to 300 (or around 300) might get NGS and/or KMS into the game more.

No-range touney - I like this idea (well, I liked all of Newbie's ideas but, I liked this the best). Would that be no ranged attacks or no figures with a range >1? Nilf has a range of 1 and a ranged SA. I played a no-range army in the General Tourney last year so, I'm ready for this format.

Grungebob and ninthdoc, let me know if I can be of any help. I'm not sure what that would be but, you can ask. I plan to be there all 4 days.

[Grungebob]

Chaoschild you were tons of help last year. Do you have an event you'd like to run this year? Or a day you would like to take control of. I don't want to be a slave to this whole thing like last year. In fact I simply refuse so I am depending on you guys.

[CupidsArt]

I really like Newb's No Range, All Common, and All Unique tourney ideas. It would be cool to have a coliseum atmosphere for the No Range Tourney. Anyone have the skills to make us a hella cool coliseum shell to put around the map(s)? There was a pretty good one at a Battletech table last year to depict Solaris VII. That would be awesome!

I could make 2D flats that could be wrapped into a circle (a little like a BK crown).

How many do you think would be needed for the event?



1. No-range tourney FRIGGAN LOVE THIS IDEA
2. 100-120 point tourney NICE
3. Unique-only tourney FRIGGAN LOVE THIS TOO
4. Common-only tourney Meh


What if there was an event called "Blind Purchase"? You are given one random Hero and squad, from there you fill the last of your points with draft.

[Grungebob]

I think the Zombies would rule a no ranged tourney.

[toddrew]

I think the Zombies would rule a no ranged tourney.

Not against my "circle of samurai" formation :lol: - boring match though, me not doing any activations on my turn and all...

EDIT: I guess it would be a line - the "Red Rover" match :)

[CupidsArt]

I think the Zombies would rule a no ranged tourney.

Not against my "circle of samurai" formation :lol: - boring match though, me not doing any activations on my turn and all...

I have this picture of them all just hanging around for 5 rounds and then, out of boredom, performing sepuku.

[justjohn]

I made this a while back messing around on vscape : http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=3877

Dunno if it will any help in the coliseum construction.

I really like Newb.'s ideas.

Also, any consideration for having a barracks/halls event?

[CupidsArt]

I made this a while back messing around on vscape : http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=3877

Dunno if it will any help in the coliseum construction.

I really like Newb.'s ideas.

Also, any consideration for having a barracks/halls event?

I think a good hex shaped center section like that could be great (not the whole thing, 60+, you're an animal)

[Dennys]

Just cut that thing down to one level of walls in 2 rings 3 hexes apart (Outer entrance, inner arena). Add 4 doors, and make 3 stepped tiers from inner to outer wall, surround with the battlements on inner and outer side, done.

[spider_poison]

I think a two day event for the championship was a really good idea....and I thought the format of it was perfect. Also, it's kind of cool to have a repeat event every year...I gotta defend my title!

The win-a-waves were completely awesome. More of those are always cool.

The Mindshackle thing was a great idea as well. If you did that again, that would be great. Just kind of a thought though...if you selected a new unit every year (say...Sudema this year) and had similar rules to the Mindshackle tourney, that might work too. Then again, Mindshackle sounds a lot better than Share of Stone, so take it for what it's worth.

As for specific army-building tourneys, I'll just share my thoughts.

General-specific- loved it...great idea

No range- I think people would realize the game is much more boring (and easy) without ranged units. Plus, there are some units that would dominate.

Just uniques- I guess I don't think it's enough of a special thing to merit a whole tourney for it.

Team tourney- Sounds really cool if it can work. What does it have going against it? Plus, I just think it's a lot of fun to take advantage of those units that affect "friendly units"...just adds a bit of synergy.


These are just my thoughts, and I'm sure no matter what you ultimately decide on, GenCon will be just as much (if not more) of a success as last year. I do have one request though...or no...a demand. What can I do to help you this year? I kinda felt like I was a slave driver exploiting all of your hard work last year. Can I bring some terrain, set up maps, or help somehow in organizing? I'll even be your honorary coffee gopher :) . Just PM me or let me know what I can do to help.

[LilNewbie]

I was thinking about the Marvel HS games and it would be interesting to have each person design two armies one with good guys and one with bad guys. When the roll for first player is decided that person gets to choose his good team or bad team and the other player uses their opposite team. Not sure if this will be feasible with the number of figures available at the time of the con but it something to consider for future events when we have a bigger selection of units. Also a Marvel Team-Up (2 figs vs. 2 figs) would be cool but not knowing the point structure of the figs is somewhat hindering at this time.

GB, I'd be glad to help out with the tournies...just let me know.

Newb.

[ChaosChild]

...Can I bring some terrain, set up maps, or help somehow in organizing? I'll even be your honorary coffee gopher :) . Just PM me or let me know what I can do to help.

You could play with 50 points less than everybody else. :P

[spider_poison]

...Can I bring some terrain, set up maps, or help somehow in organizing? I'll even be your honorary coffee gopher :) . Just PM me or let me know what I can do to help.

You could play with 50 points less than everybody else. :P

Hey, :gb: only :) . Besides, I'm sure it would make it much more difficult with pairings, placings, and stuff like that. In fact, it'd make it so complicated that we best not discuss it :) .

[InfinityMax]

I really don't care what you guys do - I'll be working, so I'm not playing tourneys - but you had all better be done by 6:30, or I'm going to start drinking without you!

[CupidsArt]

I really don't care what you guys do - I'll be working, so I'm not playing tourneys - but you had all better be done by 6:30, or I'm going to start drinking without you!

LOL, Hey I-Max. When/If I'm not helping out GB and crew, I'd be more than happy to give you a hand.

PS, do you have those dimensions? I may have an idea for a another "style", if you're interested.

[Rÿchean]

Win-a-waves!!!! yes the only thing I could actually win at last year. More of those please ;-)

Piggy backing of what Spider said, Mind Shackle Tourney was great!! we could just sub in KeMoShi instead of NeGokSa; removing the Warlord plus higher points for her plus higher chance of shackle. It would create different army builds and still be a mind shackle tourney.

Newb said All unique...Why not just All Hero???

Also, one that could be a replacement for the general specific tourney....Flagbearer Tourney. :-D

Teams..it got nixed last year I would like to give it another go

Others:

Cowboy Tourney: army must consist of at least two cowboys? or maybe all 4?

Cut Throat Tourney :-D 3 player FFA ..only the winner advances (bah.. probably a pipe dream)

Crippling Gaze Tourney Like the Mind Shackle tourney I guess….c'mon lets throw the doggin a bone?

Capture the Flag

[Grungebob]

What if we did a Bad Mofo tourney where everyone must field at least one big expensive powerhouse such as Jotun. The trick is to keep him alive. You lose him, you lose the game.

[netherspirit]

What if we did a Bad Mofo tourney where everyone must field at least one big expensive powerhouse such as Jotun. The trick is to keep him alive. You lose him, you lose the game.

The BMF Tourney? That could be fun!

[ninthdoc]

What if we did a Bad Mofo tourney where everyone must field at least one big expensive powerhouse such as Jotun. The trick is to keep him alive. You lose him, you lose the game.

The BMF Tourney? That could be fun!

BAMF :shrug:

[Codeman]

What if we did a Bad Mofo tourney where everyone must field at least one big expensive powerhouse such as Jotun. The trick is to keep him alive. You lose him, you lose the game.



That is a good idea… I like it.

I also concur with keeping the Gen Tourney a two-day event ( Making day 2 & the finals makes that event feel even a bigger, and hopefully generates more excitement )

Thanks GB for taking this on again… enjoyed last year… thanks again

[Grungebob]

I think I am going to leave the grand tourney exactly as last year. With limitations in supplies we are looking at a maximum participation of 40 players.

We may do themed win-a-waves so that these ideas can all see light of day. I am difinitely wanting the BAMF tourney and we will also have a couple of mystery events as well. I want more volunteers and also more events which we will have considering Ninthdoc's Marvelscape.

[Codeman]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.

[Menchy]

Aww my parents wont go there with me so im gonna miss this year. Damn, I'm gonna be on here 24 7 waiting for information. Next year my friend isn't going on a safari in Kenya, so I might be able to persuade him and his family to go and take me. Muahahhahahah :twisted:. But for now, I'll just sit idly and cry. :cry:

[Grungebob]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.Well think about the amount of terrain needed. Yes there are limitations but with enough events everyone will get to play. It isn't like having a local event. there are just too many master sets needed for this thing, not to mention Marvel, and all the expansions needed. I can't count on a bunch of volunteers to bring full sets and I doubt they will want to keep up with them. Now if Hasbro wants to provide even more sets, then we can have more but that is not determined yet.

The 40 slots will be available for pre-reg. This just means that it is imperative that we all preregister for the events we want to take part in. I will be attending some events this year instead of running all of them so I am looking forward to it.

There are a few locals and some driving to the con, we may be able to scrounge and increase the size of the Championship a bit, but it is too early to tell.

[Jormi_Boced]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.Well think about the amount of terrain needed. Yes there are limitations but with enough events everyone will get to play. It isn't like having a local event. there are just too many master sets needed for this thing, not to mention Marvel, and all the expansions needed. I can't count on a bunch of volunteers to bring full sets and I doubt they will want to keep up with them. Now if Hasbro wants to provide even more sets, then we can have more but that is not determined yet.

The 40 slots will be available for pre-reg. This just means that it is imperative that we all preregister for the events we want to take part in. I will be attending some events this year instead of running all of them so I am looking forward to it.

There are a few locals and some driving to the con, we may be able to scrounge and increase the size of the Championship a bit, but it is too early to tell.

There are other options to allow more players to play in the main championship. One could be to have two 40 person tourneys and taking the top 4 from each to play in the top 8.

I also think it would be cool to see the top 8 bracketed with the 1st place from tourney one playing 4th from tourney 2 and vice versa. Also, the top 8 could play best 2 out of 3 to bar a fluke luck streak from knocking someone out on the final day.

Just some ideas form some of the other championship game events I have played in.

[Bonesaw]

Well, this year I may be making the trip to Indie for the big convention. Living in Wisconsin, I had attended Gen Con for about 8 years straight in until it left a few years ago. I haven't had a reason to go, but I do now with Heroscape.

[Grungebob]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.Well think about the amount of terrain needed. Yes there are limitations but with enough events everyone will get to play. It isn't like having a local event. there are just too many master sets needed for this thing, not to mention Marvel, and all the expansions needed. I can't count on a bunch of volunteers to bring full sets and I doubt they will want to keep up with them. Now if Hasbro wants to provide even more sets, then we can have more but that is not determined yet.

The 40 slots will be available for pre-reg. This just means that it is imperative that we all preregister for the events we want to take part in. I will be attending some events this year instead of running all of them so I am looking forward to it.

There are a few locals and some driving to the con, we may be able to scrounge and increase the size of the Championship a bit, but it is too early to tell.

There are other options to allow more players to play in the main championship. One could be to have two 40 person tourneys and taking the top 4 from each to play in the top 8.

I also think it would be cool to see the top 8 bracketed with the 1st place from tourney one playing 4th from tourney 2 and vice versa. Also, the top 8 could play best 2 out of 3 to bar a fluke luck streak from knocking someone out on the final day.

Just some ideas form some of the other championship game events I have played in.Great ideas... It would require a committment of all day to run both. Two 32 player tourneys 8-9 hours. But I doubt we could get 64 players... Hmm. I will think on this. It presents all kinds of problems. It uses up all of our maps for an entire day thus cutting out all other events that day. It causes issues with pre-registering as it forces folks to choose and could be balanced oddly. But, I do like the idea...

[Jormi_Boced]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.Well think about the amount of terrain needed. Yes there are limitations but with enough events everyone will get to play. It isn't like having a local event. there are just too many master sets needed for this thing, not to mention Marvel, and all the expansions needed. I can't count on a bunch of volunteers to bring full sets and I doubt they will want to keep up with them. Now if Hasbro wants to provide even more sets, then we can have more but that is not determined yet.

The 40 slots will be available for pre-reg. This just means that it is imperative that we all preregister for the events we want to take part in. I will be attending some events this year instead of running all of them so I am looking forward to it.

There are a few locals and some driving to the con, we may be able to scrounge and increase the size of the Championship a bit, but it is too early to tell.

There are other options to allow more players to play in the main championship. One could be to have two 40 person tourneys and taking the top 4 from each to play in the top 8.

I also think it would be cool to see the top 8 bracketed with the 1st place from tourney one playing 4th from tourney 2 and vice versa. Also, the top 8 could play best 2 out of 3 to bar a fluke luck streak from knocking someone out on the final day.

Just some ideas form some of the other championship game events I have played in.Great ideas... It would require a committment of all day to run both. Two 32 player tourneys 8-9 hours. But I doubt we could get 64 players... Hmm. I will think on this. It presents all kinds of problems. It uses up all of our maps for an entire day thus cutting out all other events that day. It causes issues with pre-registering as it forces folks to choose and could be balanced oddly. But, I do like the idea...

Yeah, it definitley presents its own set of challenges, but it would allow more players to play in the main event.

One way you could set up for Pre Reg is that everyone registers for one event, and shows up in the morning, where you will randomly assign folks to heat 1 and heat 2. That way you can keep things even, and if we have less than 40 show up you could just run one tourney with top 8 advancing.

Jsut tossing out a couple of ideas.

[Grungebob]

Possible 40-player limit? Do you know how you will be allotting the 40 spaces? My guess is that there will be well over 40 who will want to enter this event or any of the other special events. It seems unfortunate that someone will travel to Indy and they ( or me :cry: ) may not be able to participate in the tourney.Well think about the amount of terrain needed. Yes there are limitations but with enough events everyone will get to play. It isn't like having a local event. there are just too many master sets needed for this thing, not to mention Marvel, and all the expansions needed. I can't count on a bunch of volunteers to bring full sets and I doubt they will want to keep up with them. Now if Hasbro wants to provide even more sets, then we can have more but that is not determined yet.

The 40 slots will be available for pre-reg. This just means that it is imperative that we all preregister for the events we want to take part in. I will be attending some events this year instead of running all of them so I am looking forward to it.

There are a few locals and some driving to the con, we may be able to scrounge and increase the size of the Championship a bit, but it is too early to tell.

There are other options to allow more players to play in the main championship. One could be to have two 40 person tourneys and taking the top 4 from each to play in the top 8.

I also think it would be cool to see the top 8 bracketed with the 1st place from tourney one playing 4th from tourney 2 and vice versa. Also, the top 8 could play best 2 out of 3 to bar a fluke luck streak from knocking someone out on the final day.

Just some ideas form some of the other championship game events I have played in.Great ideas... It would require a committment of all day to run both. Two 32 player tourneys 8-9 hours. But I doubt we could get 64 players... Hmm. I will think on this. It presents all kinds of problems. It uses up all of our maps for an entire day thus cutting out all other events that day. It causes issues with pre-registering as it forces folks to choose and could be balanced oddly. But, I do like the idea...

Yeah, it definitley presents its own set of challenges, but it would allow more players to play in the main event.

One way you could set up for Pre Reg is that everyone registers for one event, and shows up in the morning, where you will randomly assign folks to heat 1 and heat 2. That way you can keep things even, and if we have less than 40 show up you could just run one tourney with top 8 advancing.

Jsut tossing out a couple of ideas.That would prevent any other events from being run that entire day, and it would also mess with those players Gencon plans. Say they want to register for an afternoon game of D&D only to find out they are supposed to be in Heat 2? I think I will start thinking about trying to increase the size of the Championship to accomodate more than 40. It is so complex with the way Gencon runs the spaces available. Basically, if you want more space you have to prove that you can fill that space with busy gamers the whole time. I was so fortunate last year to have had events scheduled every day as it allowed me to keep my stuff set up and not have to take it all down. I plan on doing that again this year. Imagine building maps every day several times a day YUCK!!.

So if the size of the Championshiop increased, it would take more space!! an we would need to be sure that it filled up. I would rather turn folks down than have too much space and risk having Gencon bust me on it. That said I think I will search out those who are travelling by car or live in the area. Chaoschild has volunteered to donate some of his sets to the cause so I can probably get the tourney up to 50. I will ask Gencon for more space as well.. Lots of work to do!!

[LilNewbie]

You (meaning 'Us' :D ) could run each heat on a seperate day. Heat 1 on Friday, Heat 2 on Saturday and the top winners in each heat compete on Sunday for the finals. That way you only use the maps you assigned for the big tourney and people can sign up for one or the other and they will know when to show up and what time to block for the championship.

Newb.

[Jormi_Boced]

We could maybe bring some sets with us. Let us know.

[Grungebob]

You (meaning 'Us' :D ) could run each heat on a seperate day. Heat 1 on Friday, Heat 2 on Saturday and the top winners in each heat compete on Sunday for the finals. That way you only use the maps you assigned for the big tourney and people can sign up for one or the other and they will know when to show up and what time to block for the championship.

Newb.No way we are doing the finals on Sunday. Craig is going to want to meet them and play the winner... Sunday is just not a good day for that!!

[Jormi_Boced]

You (meaning 'Us' :D ) could run each heat on a seperate day. Heat 1 on Friday, Heat 2 on Saturday and the top winners in each heat compete on Sunday for the finals. That way you only use the maps you assigned for the big tourney and people can sign up for one or the other and they will know when to show up and what time to block for the championship.

Newb.No way we are doing the finals on Sunday. Craig is going to want to meet them and play the winner... Sunday is just not a good day for that!!

Yeah, I agree with Sunday not being the best for that. It is kind of a wrap up fun day. Then get you butt on the road for that long trip back.

It could be run Thursday Heat 1 and Friday Heat 2 with the finals on Saturday. That might work out fairly slick. It would be hard to keep the heats even though

[LilNewbie]

Hardcore Genconers stay till Monday. ;)

Thursday and Friday would work too. The real question (already posed by GB) is can we fill up 64 slots for the championship? If not, how do you handle having 16 in one slot (probably on Thursday which generally has a lower attendance) and 32 on Friday?

Just throwing out ideas.

Newb. (scared of GB's exclamation points). :D

[Grungebob]

Hardcore Genconers stay till Monday. ;)

Thursday and Friday would work too. The real question (already posed by GB) is can we fill up 64 slots for the championship? If not, how do you handle having 16 in one slot (probably on Thursday which generally has a lower attendance) and 32 on Friday?

Just throwing out ideas.

Newb. (scared of GB's exclamation points). :DYou know what??!! I'm not going to do two heats. I think it would not be as accomodating as just trying for 50 and allowing the other events to please any who did not get to do the main Championship...

[Codeman]

2007 will be interesting. I will be curious to see how much interest there is in the Heroscape Tourney.

Suggestion for 2008 and beyond:

Grungebob,
It may be a non-issue but I can see that if things continue to grow as I am imagining they may. In 2008 you or ( Hasbro?) may want to consider regional qualifying tournament. Then the top ( 4,6,8? ) would advance in each region, and would get a guaranteed spot in the Gen-Con Tournament.

Good luck with your Gen-Con 2007 efforts, if some of us from the upper mid-west group can help in some way… let us know.

[Menchy]

Not that I am going, but would someone I would consider would be a curse of Ne-Gok-Sa game at Gencon.

[damja]

Having never been to GenCon (Blasphemy!) since up until now I have not been able to take the time off of work (now that I get the summer's off I can) I don't really know how things typically get organized for the Main Event, but I have an idea.

Couldn't you have 10 smaller satellite tournaments (16 ppl each) during Thursday and Friday and have the top 4 from each one qualify for their spot in the Main Event like in the World Series of Poker?

This way you might have a Main Event qualifier or two being played at the same time as a Win-a-Wave and or another "Special" tournament and give people the flexibility to play when it fits into their schedule.

Just an idea.

[ninthdoc]

Having never been to GenCon (Blasphemy!) since up until now I have not been able to take the time off of work (now that I get the summer's off I can) I don't really know how things typically get organized for the Main Event, but I have an idea.

Couldn't you have 10 smaller satellite tournaments (16 ppl each) during Thursday and Friday and have the top 4 from each one qualify for their spot in the Main Event like in the World Series of Poker?

This way you might have a Main Event qualifier or two being played at the same time as a Win-a-Wave and or another "Special" tournament and give people the flexibility to play when it fits into their schedule.

Just an idea.

Wow, you do think big. We had great interest in the game last year, but the only thing that was drawing numbers like you mention (160+) was Dreamblade, and that was because they were offering up a $20,000 top prize. Unless Hasbro or HouseMouse wants to pony up $20,000 for the top prize, we're not going to have those numbers. For the record, I just don't see this happening.

Forty to fifty people participating in a fan-run tourney is pretty hefty. We have been very fortunate that Grungebob has been so successful in securing us prize support to the level he has.

I'd love to see this game go that big one day. For now, it may be smaller, but you'll definitely get your money's worth and have a damn good time.

[damja]

Wow, you do think big. We had great interest in the game last year, but the only thing that was drawing numbers like you mention (160+) was Dreamblade, and that was because they were offering up a $20,000 top prize. Unless Hasbro or HouseMouse wants to pony up $20,000 for the top prize, we're not going to have those numbers. For the record, I just don't see this happening.

But wouldn't people who didn't qualify the first time through want to play in another tourney to get in? Or another idea would be to make the satellites 8 people each?

Also, Hasbro may have more interest this year considering the current Poll at www.heroscape.com

[Jormi_Boced]

Yeah, I think 160 is high, but 60-100 is definitely within easy reach.

If the TTO in Podunk Iowa can get 38, I think the Gen Con Tourney should look for numbers close to double that for 2007.

I know Hasbro has tons of Master Sets at Gen Con for their massive build they do in the dealer hall. I wonder if there would be anyway they could sneak a few of them over to the miniatures hall to help flesh out our number of maps.

[Grungebob]

It is one thing for somebody to drive a few miles in podunk for an innexpensive one day tourney, but a completely different thing to spend the money and time to go to Gencon... then to devote a chunk of that to a big tourney. Hasbro is already supplying my sets, plus Marvel as well don't forget. Again, if we get too much space from Gencon and then fail to adequately fill it, we lose in the long run. It is better to max out. Last year almost nobody preregistered for the events. This year should be different!!

[Jormi_Boced]

It is one thing for somebody to drive a few miles in podunk for an innexpensive one day tourney, but a completely different thing to spend the money and time to go to Gencon... then to devote a chunk of that to a big tourney. Hasbro is already supplying my sets, plus Marvel as well don't forget. Again, if we get too much space from Gencon and then fail to adequately fill it, we lose in the long run. It is better to max out. Last year almost nobody preregistered for the events. This year should be different!!

A few miles??? In podunk, nothing is a few miles the average driving distance to the TTO was 122 miles. That includes five people that only drove a mile, cause there home is actually in that speck of a town called Forest City. That brought the average down quite a bit.

Anyway, it was a relatively expensive endeavor for many attendees with the cost of gas and hotel in there, understandably not as much as Gen Con costs, but I want you to understand what it takes to play Scape in the podunk midwest.

Some people pre-registered at Gen Con last year??? I scoured the book many times and couldn't find a single listing for Heroscape.

[Grungebob]

It is one thing for somebody to drive a few miles in podunk for an innexpensive one day tourney, but a completely different thing to spend the money and time to go to Gencon... then to devote a chunk of that to a big tourney. Hasbro is already supplying my sets, plus Marvel as well don't forget. Again, if we get too much space from Gencon and then fail to adequately fill it, we lose in the long run. It is better to max out. Last year almost nobody preregistered for the events. This year should be different!!

A few miles??? In podunk, nothing is a few miles the average driving distance to the TTO was 122 miles. That includes five people that only drove a mile, cause there home is actually in that speck of a town called Forest City. That brought the average down quite a bit.

Anyway, it was a relatively expensive endeavor for many attendees with the cost of gas and hotel in there, understandably not as much as Gen Con costs, but I want you to understand what it takes to play Scape in the podunk midwest.

Some people pre-registered at Gen Con last year??? I scoured the book many times and couldn't find a single listing for Heroscape.Not trying to minimize y'alls efforts at all!! From all accounts you guys pulled off a miracle game day!!! Anyway, I am going to shoot for 50 players. That is 25 Master sets and doesn't include the sheer amount of expansions we will need. I will itemize all of that. I am going to attempt to get 2 1/2 to 3 rows of table space for our events so it means we will need good participation for the rest of the con to keep those tables. Shipping of those Master sets is going to be expensive!! No matter who does it. There will be other materials that will need shipping as well. Now we will need to look at prizes as well and figure out all of that!!

[Hendal]

Hey Grunge- just wanted to say thanks for all the work you did last year, and again for the coming year, you rock, I think that is so big for the game in general to have people willing to do all that work.
Thank you.

I am all for the no-range tourney ( that is no range and no range on special attacks also ). I play like this off and on, and the big thing is that you use guys that you normally don't -- which to me is what makes it so much fun. Actually the snakes are the one of the very best for no range, if you have mittens and they move 9, they always get 1st attack, and with a few frenzies thrown in, look out. I need to try a snakes verses zombies for a no range and see how that goes.

All one general - love it
all one genreal with a flag bearer - loveit even more, if nothing else it makes buying the flag bearers a better deal ( you can use them at GenCon )

The other are OK, IMO.


I am hoping to make it to GenCon this year, But I have a feeling it ain't happening,

[Codeman]

“Shoot for 50 players” I am sure we will hit that mark easy. I certainly understand you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere so you can plan. This as well as being limited by the physical logistics of space and materials, as well as being able to manage it all in the big hall. I understand completely as there are these unfortunate limitations.

I’m not physic or a fortuneteller, but I would be my prediction that for 2007 Gen-Con we will have well over 50 people interested in HS. Then for 2008 who knows how wild these number could grow. I just threw out my observation as something to think about, as I do see this growing. I have no answers ( other than possible regional qualifiers – for the future ) nor did I ask for any…. I just thought collectively as a group some great ideas may evolve.

Again GB thanks for all your efforts during the last Gen-Con and for this coming year also. It is all appreciated. Thank you.

[spider_poison]

Aside from the numbers of players and all that, do you know what maps you might use? I know it's forever and a half from now, so here's a better question...Will the maps used definitely be ones issued by Hasbro like last year? OR...Are you planning on using fan-made maps?

Oh, and for the record, I think using either would be great.

[markwars]

I just read this thread for the first time and I have to say that after reading it I am giddy with excitement. I can't freakin' wait for GenCon now. :D

[monte_kev]

I treally enjoyed gencon last year. Anything you guys improve on will just be awsome.

one comment...win a wave boards could have been a tad bigger...10-15 rounds were really quick.

[Grungebob]

Aside from the numbers of players and all that, do you know what maps you might use? I know it's forever and a half from now, so here's a better question...Will the maps used definitely be ones issued by Hasbro like last year? OR...Are you planning on using fan-made maps?

Oh, and for the record, I think using either would be great.Well, I want to use both official and fan made. Perhaps a contest to have a couple of fan made maps? SOTM might have some maps as well.

[Grungebob]

OK the events for Gencon this year have been submitted and are awaiting approval:

NMN00021 Heat of Battle
NMN00022 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00023 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00024 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00026 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 1
NMN00027 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00028 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 2
NMN00029 Heroscape Slugfest
NMN00030 Big Ol' Monster Battle

[Buddy Lee]

OK the events for Gencon this year have been submitted and are awaiting approval:

NMN00021 Heat of Battle
NMN00022 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00023 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00024 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00026 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 1
NMN00027 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00028 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 2
NMN00029 Heroscape Slugfest
NMN00030 Big Ol' Monster Battle

Where/when can we find information (template, rules, etc.) for these events?

Thanks,

Buddy Lee

[AgentX-127]

OK the events for Gencon this year have been submitted and are awaiting approval:

NMN00021 Heat of Battle
NMN00022 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00023 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00024 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00026 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 1
NMN00027 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00028 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 2
NMN00029 Heroscape Slugfest
NMN00030 Big Ol' Monster Battle

I see the scenario idea submitted by UranusPChicago (Heat of Battle.)

Congratulations UPC!

[spider_poison]

OK the events for Gencon this year have been submitted and are awaiting approval:

NMN00021 Heat of Battle
NMN00022 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00023 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00024 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00026 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 1
NMN00027 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00028 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 2
NMN00029 Heroscape Slugfest
NMN00030 Big Ol' Monster Battle

Hey GB, I couldn't help but notice that there is no NMN00025. What's that all about? Some secret event? :)

[Grungebob]

OK the events for Gencon this year have been submitted and are awaiting approval:

NMN00021 Heat of Battle
NMN00022 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00023 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00024 Win-A-Wave Tournament
NMN00026 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 1
NMN00027 Marvel / Swarm of the Marro
NMN00028 HeroScape Gen Con Indy Championship '07, Day 2
NMN00029 Heroscape Slugfest
NMN00030 Big Ol' Monster Battle

Hey GB, I couldn't help but notice that there is no NMN00025. What's that all about? Some secret event? :)There was an extra event in there that was a ticketed event. It was removed to be an open "exhibition" event. Not especially secret, just set aside.

[saintBYgrace]

I am looking into going to GenCon this year (my first time ever) and would like to know if anyone can help me out with some info? I do not drive and am looking to fly so I am needing the airport three letter code of the airport closest to this event. As well can anyone tell me if I am able to get around (to and from the airport to GenCon without the use of a car?). I thank you for your help in this matter and hope to see you at GenCon this year.

God Bless and Keep Faith;
-John-

[playa1]

I am also hoping to go to GenCon for the first time this year and participate in the tournament. (I can't help with travel arrangements; fortunately I am within driving distance)

Is there any place to find out more about what these different events are like? I don't find anything on the GenCon site yet, but some of you have done this before: What is "Heat of Battle", "Slugfest", and "Big Ol Monster tourney"? Also, where can I find out more about how the tournament will go: what boards might be used, will there be restrictions, can one bring more than one army and use different armies in each round of play, how is scoring exactly done? If anyone can give me info on any of these issues it would be appreciated.

[ChaosChild]

I am also hoping to go to GenCon for the first time this year and participate in the tournament. (I can't help with travel arrangements; fortunately I am within driving distance)

Is there any place to find out more about what these different events are like? I don't find anything on the GenCon site yet, but some of you have done this before: What is "Heat of Battle", "Slugfest", and "Big Ol Monster tourney"? Also, where can I find out more about how the tournament will go: what boards might be used, will there be restrictions, can one bring more than one army and use different armies in each round of play, how is scoring exactly done? If anyone can give me info on any of these issues it would be appreciated.

The tournament parameters will be posoted on the GenCon site (I think sometime in April). Battlefields will most likely be determined closer to GenCon and will be posted in a thread here.

[curseyoukhan]

Can those who were there last year give any hints as to what these different tournies might involve?

Like what's Win-A-Wave?

Look forward to meeting you all in person in Indy.

[ChaosChild]

Last year the Win-a-Waves were single elimination 8 person heats, 400 point armies, kill 'em all. Winner recieved a wave of their choice.

I don't know what Grungebob has planned for them this year as they can be any sort of battle with the winner recieving a wave. We will find out when they get posted on the GenCon site.

[curseyoukhan]

Coolness! many thanks.

[demon_llama]

please don't make the championship on sunday. my sons and i are planning on attending this year, after vacation in cleveland/medina area, but we have to be back in oklahoma sunday evening (school down here starts friday, so they will already be missing the first day and my wife is a teacher, so she'll be missing work as well).

if i can help, let me know. i'll be there from wednesday through saturday afternoon (and my son's are great unpackers/haulers/labor force).

this will actually be the first year i've been to gencon that i'm not staffing. weird. i hope i don't get too bord...

[Rÿchean]

it won't be on sunday; that I am sure of

[ptucker78]

All of the events planned sound like a lot of fun. I may be going to my first GenCon this year, any tips on planning for what events to go to? Will probably be there Fri-Sunday.

[curseyoukhan]

All of the events planned sound like a lot of fun. I may be going to my first GenCon this year, any tips on planning for what events to go to? Will probably be there Fri-Sunday.

Me, too.

[C28525]

Im a little curious about these contests that are being planned. Would I have to buy a special badge to play? Or are they just for any heroscaper who happens to show up there and being a few figs?

I hope I am not out of place asking this but how do the exclusives work. One of the bigger reasons I am going to to pick up whatever exclusive Hasbro will have for heroscape. If I buy a 4 day pass do I get a chance at getting 4? If this post is way out of place then kill it, don't want to make anyone mad.

[netherspirit]

Im a little curious about these contests that are being planned. Would I have to buy a special badge to play? Or are they just for any heroscaper who happens to show up there and being a few figs?

I hope I am not out of place asking this but how do the exclusives work. One of the bigger reasons I am going to to pick up whatever exclusive Hasbro will have for heroscape. If I buy a 4 day pass do I get a chance at getting 4? If this post is way out of place then kill it, don't want to make anyone mad.

Events cost tickets. You can buy a ticket for a specific event and be guarnteed a spot or you can buy generic tickets and go to an event and find the GM and see if there is space, from either not selling out or someone who bought a ticket not showing up.

Exclusives are generally 1 per badge. They will punch your badge and you won't be able to get it again.

[C28525]

Will the heroscape games be a sanctioned event we can buy tickets to? Or will it be something we can get on this site?

[ChaosChild]

You can purchase tickets for specific events on the GenCon site (http://www.gencon.com/2007/indy/) when they are put up. Should be sometime later this month. You do need a general admission badge (1 or more days) to purchase tickets for idividual events.

[GaryLASQ]

ChaosChild, QUICK delete your last post to this thread and nobody will notice.
then i'll edit this post so nobody will notice that i said nobody will notice. ;)

this year is the 40th anniversary
http://www.gencon.com/2007/indy/press/releases/2007.02.10.Press.aspx

event registration begins on 5/7

[ChaosChild]

GaryLASQ, thanks for catching that. I fixed my link. That's what I get for not paying attention to which one I clicked on.

[Dragonmaster384]

How much do event tickets usually cost? I might be going this year, it'll be my first time.

[Grungebob]

How much do event tickets usually cost? I might be going this year, it'll be my first time.Each event ticket costs $1.50. So an event that is $6 will take 4 tickets as an example.

[Grungebob]

Yes our events are approved barring any unforseen disasters we are looking at nine events that span the entire 4 days. We have prize support and also support in the form of terrain sets. Looks like we are a go. I will be posting more details soon.

[skyknight]

Just posting here so I can keep an eye on this thread...thank you very much for your cooperation :P

[Buddy Lee]

Yes our events are approved barring any unforseen disasters we are looking at nine events that span the entire 4 days. We have prize support and also support in the form of terrain sets. Looks like we are a go. I will be posting more details soon.

Magnificent job, Grungebob. I for one really appreciate all the effort you and many others have put into making this such a great event.

Buddy Lee

[markwars]

Thanks GB. If I may ask who agreed to support us in terms of terrain sets?

[Grungebob]

Some guy named Linderman!

[markwars]

:lol:

Nice! :D

[Buddy Lee]

Some guy named Linderman!

Umm. He isn't by any chance a Las Vegas mob boss with a penchant for art and the ability to heal, is he?

Just hoping that HRG et. al don't crash the party. Or maybe I do. Now, THAT would be interesting.

Buddy Lee

[CupidsArt]

Oh, that reminds me, I'll be giving out free haircuts at Gencon this year. My booth will be near the Dremblade minis table, just stop by, make an appointment and I'll get ya' cut, ;)



Sincerely,
Siler

[playa1]

On which days will the main Tourney and Win-A-Wave Tourneys occur (or is it yet known)?

I would like to plan on going on those days to make the most of my time there (I can't go all four days). And is it yet know how much these events will cost?

[Grungebob]

On which days will the main Tourney and Win-A-Wave Tourneys occur (or is it yet known)?

I would like to plan on going on those days to make the most of my time there (I can't go all four days). And is it yet know how much these events will cost?Friday and Saturday.

[demon_llama]

Some guy named Linderman!
figures he'd be interested in some game named Heroscape...

[mecha frog]

Gen Con mode activate! I've got my spread sheet out and am working on maximum gaming. Last year I just happened to be walking through the Wizards area in the dealer room when they started sending Sir Hawthornes out to good homes.

I didn't play any Heroscape games in 06 but plan on fixing that this year. The dilemma I have is I'm interested in the opening day games, but don't want to miss out on the goodies. Last year, did Wizards bring promo figures to the Heroscape gaming area or was this an at booth promo only?

Thanks,

strategery frog

[ChaosChild]

Gen Con mode activate! I've got my spread sheet out and am working on maximum gaming. Last year I just happened to be walking through the Wizards area in the dealer room when they started sending Sir Hawthornes out to good homes.

I didn't play any Heroscape games in 06 but plan on fixing that this year. The dilemma I have is I'm interested in the opening day games, but don't want to miss out on the goodies. Last year, did Wizards bring promo figures to the Heroscape gaming area or was this an at booth promo only?

Thanks,

strategery frog

Hasbro was giving out Sir Hawthornes on all four days. I got mine after the first event on Thursday. If they are giving a promo figure out this year, you shouldn't have difficulty getting it.