Dreamblade...

[LilNewbie]

Okay, I just finished reading the rules for Dreamblade from the Wizards site and I am impressed. This looks like a game with a lot of potential not only for Heroscape but as a stand alone game. After reading the background about the idea behind Dreamscape, it struck me as an interesting twist on Netrunning (the ccg and any cyberpunk rpgs) except you are fighitng in ethereal space and not in cyber space. The rules look balanced (from a first glance reading) and I like the restrictions on force building (no more than 3 of any figure, etc.)

Anyone else have thoughts on the game?

Here is a link to the site. The demo set is in the download section and the rules are in the Rules/FAQ section.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/welcome

Newb.

[reapersaurus]

Dreamblade's been discussed and drooled over a lot in the minis worth using in HS thread:
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=132&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=dreamblade&start=30
it started on the bottom of page 2.

This site seems to have the best pictures of the minis:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faceless-illusion/DBpics.htm

I actually found the Boneblade Serpent mini at Kublacon for a buck!
I picked him up :D

[toddrew]

This site seems to have the best pictures of the minis:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faceless-illusion/DBpics.htm


Thanks for that link, Reaper. I like their version of Sudema better ;)
Seriously, cool looking sculpts.

[Miniature Geek]

My favorite thing about this...

All the models I like...

They're all commons...

Finally.

[toddrew]

Yeah, the game scenario is a little more tightly defined than "The Battle of All Time" :)

EDIT: That's wierd. MG, I read your post as "my favorite models are all demons" Late I suppose.

[Miniature Geek]

Yeah, the game scenario is a little more tightly defined than "The Battle of All Time" :)

EDIT: That's wierd. MG, I read your post as "my favorite models are all demons" Late I suppose.

LOL, was there a line I missed... you edited something, was it about you thinking all my favorite models were demons?

[toddrew]

LOL, was there a line I missed... you edited something, was it about you thinking all my favorite models were demons?

yeppers, that's what I did, :)

[ultradoug]

I like that castle looking thing.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faceless-illusion/Graphics/Dreamblade/Wizards/Heartsblood_Temple_LG.jpg

Now I have to see how the game plays!

-edit-

does the way WOTC is allready holding big prize pay outs for this game look like how they could handle heroscape....

[reapersaurus]

oh, don;t get me started, UD. :lol: :mad:

[Miniature Geek]

The edit must have changed something major I'm so lost.

[boom]

I've read the download rules and am also impressed. The game seems like it can be tought quickly enough, but has a strategic depth. Knowing when to stike or shift is going to be huge. I also appreciate how some crappy rolls (of blades, for instance) can actually help you in some situations. A benefit of rolling crappy is definitely my kind of game. 8) I won't go on about how beautiful the minis are as I'm sure everyone agrees they are.

Now, my only concern is that it is a CMG. Oh well, you can't have it all.

[LilNewbie]

Yeah the CMG aspect is a bit of a turn off but I like the game rules a lot. What would be nice is if WOTC would list some standard, balanced armies so people can play pickup games with those armies without dealing with the CMG style cheesefest. Navia Dratp lists the starter armies in the back of the rulebook which allows a pickup game to start without having to create armies.

The idea of the 2 phases and having to choose between strike or shift(move) gives a lot of flexibility and tough choices to the players. I also like the idea of the blades and how you can divert some bad luck by making sure you have a diverse army.


Newb.

[toddrew]

Anybody know what the expected retail of this game will be? Am I being too optimistic with $20 starter and $10 boosters?

[toddrew]

Well, to answer my own post, yes and yes:

from talkinsports.com

At the GAMA trade show in Las Vegas Wizards of the Coast unveiled a major new game initiative. Dreamblade is a collectible miniatures game featuring elaborate, somewhat larger (40mm) pre-painted minis and involving a great deal of strategy. According to lead designer Jonathan Tweet, "Dreamblade players take on the role of powerful psychic dreamlords summoning creatures to do battle in the dreamscape." The high concept description of the fast-paced new game, which takes only 20-30 minutes per contest, may be "battles in the dreamscape, the collective unconscious of humanity," but this original property with its very original set of rules, and the summoning of creatures from the unconscious sounds a lot like Magic with minis on a mat.


Hobby retailers may have wanted a straight Magic: The Gathering miniatures game, but they should be pleased with the elaborate organized play program WotC is rolling out in support of Dreamblade and with the fact that the Dreamblade game will be an exclusive "core" hobby game targeting the kind of confirmed gamers (15 and up) who patronize hobby venues. The first Dreamblade release, which will be released this summer, will include 96 figures, 32 commons, 32 uncommons, and 32 rare figures. Starter Sets ($29.99) include 16 random miniatures, rules and a play mat. Booster Packs ($14.99) will contain seven miniatures, one rare, two uncommon, and four commons. The Booster Packs will come in cases, each of which will contain 12 packs. WotC plans to release Baxar's War, the first expansion for Dreamblade in October. Baxar's War will include 60 new figures and will be boosters only.

[LilNewbie]

Looks like the MSRP for starters is 29.99 and for boosters 14.99 but most retailers had the starters for 22.99 and boosters for 9.99 (preorder specials).

Newb.

[Jason]

I think Sudema, Su Bak Na, Braxas, and Nilfheim all look cooler than any of those figures

[boom]

To each his own. The HS figures you listed are nice sculpts, but it doesn't appear as if they can touch the paint jobs on most of those Dreamblade figures.

The retail prices sound right about the same as A&A minis. I thought I read on the Wizards site that the boosters will have 9 minis per, not the 7 listed in the talkinsports blurb.

[boom]

Nope, I'm an idiot. It is 7 per booster pack. Here's the product link:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/products

[Jason]

I never factored in paint jobs since those do not matter to me. I'd play HS if they came unpainted

[toddrew]

To each his own. The HS figures you listed are nice sculpts, but it doesn't appear as if they can touch the paint jobs on most of those Dreamblade figures.

Yeah, I had posted earlier (another thread?) that I thought some of those sculpts (and paint-jobs) would be straight-up improvements over the current HS sculpts, Sudema, being one of them. Not that I don't think the HS sculpts are terrible by any means.

That ogre/demon with the hydra-heads poking out his back is a pretty mean sculpt.

The retail prices sound right about the same as A&A minis. I thought I read on the Wizards site that the boosters will have 9 minis per, not the 7 listed in the talkinsports blurb.

You raised my hopes there for a moment, ya greedy bastard, ya :lol:

Actually, though I despise the blind purchase gimmick, making squads for HS will be facilitated by such.

[boom]

The good news is a local vendor at a continuous convention here in LA sells A&A cases for $90.00. :wink: I'm sure we're looking at the same price for Dreamblade.

[toddrew]

12 per case, or only 10? excuse my noobness in this area, haven't purchased blind purchases in bulk...yet

[LilNewbie]

12 boosters per case and 6 starters per case as far as the listings on the internet show.

I'll probably pre-order a booster case and then just pickup the starter (plus a few boosters) during the release at Gencon. That's a good deal at 90.00/case, Boom!

Newb.

[boom]

Yeah, we're very fortunate in that we have that particular convention every Wednesday and Saturday here in LA county. Lots of vendors selling comics, cards, CMGs, CCGs, Sports memorabilia and toys. :D Don't know if that's what the price will be when Dreamblade comes out, but I figure it should be within a dollar or two. Definitely the place to shop (when the wife gives you permission, of course). :wink:

[Rodriquez]

so far Ive only seen a case being listed at 120 on preorder..
if anyone finds it less lemme know.

cheers

[ultradoug]

now if only hasbro would take a page from wotc or maybe if wotc will handle heroscape this way (good suport etc) then we will have no more problems. /end thread jack.
I'm going to get this game... maybe.

[boom]

so far Ive only seen a case being listed at 120 on preorder..
if anyone finds it less lemme know.

cheers

I'm going to try to talk to the vendor today and see what his price should be. Do you want me to inquire about s/h to Texas?

[endpawn]

I like that castle looking thing.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faceless-illusion/Graphics/Dreamblade/Wizards/Heartsblood_Temple_LG.jpg

Now I have to see how the game plays!

-edit-

does the way WOTC is allready holding big prize pay outs for this game look like how they could handle heroscape....

Id be happy to teach you or anyone else how to play for free. You can play online for no charge with any of the figures currently previewed. The locations get summoned into a particular space and cannot move or fight, but they enhance your creatures in different ways. For instance the Temple lets you bring out more or larger creatures every turn. The Castle lets you pull your creatures into its location giving them extra movement.

If you are interested in trying the game out completely free visit here
http://dreamblade.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?id=770 Every single person I have met playing Dreamblade is very friendly and will likely help you learn how to play. It helps to download and read the rulebook through once first though.

[Rodriquez]

so far Ive only seen a case being listed at 120 on preorder..
if anyone finds it less lemme know.

cheers

I'm going to try to talk to the vendor today and see what his price should be. Do you want me to inquire about s/h to Texas?

if ye would man that would rock...on total to get a case of boosters and 2 starters and what shipping would be.


Local shops Ive checked out here are just about raping ppl....30 for starter and 14 for the boosters.

[toddrew]

Local shops Ive checked out here are just about raping ppl....30 for starter and 14 for the boosters.

Not disputing that that's a lot, but that is the MSRP. Getting the boosters for $8 a pack by the case would be very, very nice.

[Rodriquez]

Local shops Ive checked out here are just about raping ppl....30 for starter and 14 for the boosters.

Not disputing that that's a lot, but that is the MSRP. Getting the boosters for $8 a pack by the case would be very, very nice.

true but that still makes it hard to get into esp since Ive seen starters for 20 online and boosters for 10...

I understand the local shops have to make money but geez some of out here take it to extremes....one place here has the HS master set for 50 bucks....

ouch

[LilNewbie]

HS being outrageous I can understand since Hasbro doesn't cut any slack for small business but WoTC products can be picked up from distributers for about 60% retail. That leaves room for the FLGS to give some type of discount and still make money. Selling this stuff for full retail is a bit over the top especially since online places are giving discounts. I'm all for supporting the local shop but we (the shoppers) also have to eat and pay mortgages, etc....they need to learn to give shoppers a break also. I'm surprised they aren't giving a discount if you preorder since most of the FLGS I've frequented would give a generous discount if you preordered (and paid) for a product. Can you inquire if they will work with you on such a deal (not sure how your relationship is with them or if they are even decent enough to approach?)

Newb.

[Rodriquez]

well this is the same shop that is pre-ordering horrorclix for 28 I believe for a starter and 2 boosters...

or 5 boosters for 40 bucks...

[endpawn]

The prices are not really that bad. HS figures cost 2-3 dollars a piece. Dreamblade figures cost 2 bucks a piece.

[boom]

Yes, 2 bucks a figure is not bad, except when it's the sixth time you've pulled that very figure and learned after the first pull that it is very ineffective in the game. With HS, you know exactly what you're getting for your 2-3 dollars.

Now, while we're still on pricing, it looks like the vendor here in SoCal will have cases for about $90-$100. He said he has not heard of the game yet (he's a seller, not a gamer) but if it's from WotC, he'll carry it. 8) He'll do mail order by phone or email. I left the business card in my car, but I'll contact any interested parties with his info.

[endpawn]

Thats where buying and selling singles comes in I guess but the game is really fun regardless.

BTW this game seems very balanced. Ive played all 44 pieces available and every single one was worth using.

[boom]

That's great to hear. The owner of my local gaming store also sings the game's praises. It will be a nice "end of summer" bonus.

[endpawn]

Feel free to come try it out boom the player base is very friendly.

http://dreamblade.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?id=770

[boom]

There's stats and demo pieces for 8 new minis at the Dreamblade site. Check 'em out here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.aspx=dbm/article/20060606virtualbooster

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Damn you Boom!!!!!

I REALLY didn't need to know about this game!!!

I checked out the rules and minis......

Damn you to HELL!!!!!!

I don't need to eat..... that much.

[boom]

See, this is when you ebay off all your old minis from games that have lived past their "tickle-your-fancy" expiration dates. I see a nice Menoth army for Warmachine up for bid sometime soon. Mechwarrior LE's??? Gone to the highest bidder. :wink:

[LilNewbie]

LOL! Don't get rid of them just make up HS units for them. :D

Newb.

[jcb231]

Yeah the CMG aspect is a bit of a turn off but I like the game rules a lot. What would be nice is if WOTC would list some standard, balanced armies so people can play pickup games with those armies without dealing with the CMG style cheesefest. Navia Dratp lists the starter armies in the back of the rulebook which allows a pickup game to start without having to create armies.

The idea of the 2 phases and having to choose between strike or shift(move) gives a lot of flexibility and tough choices to the players. I also like the idea of the blades and how you can divert some bad luck by making sure you have a diverse army.


Newb.

I think each figure has draft points...that's what intrigued me at Wizard World at least....didn't get a lot of time to play it though...I was too busy rushing through it to get my stamp and thus free loot.

[endpawn]

Each figure has a spawn cost. Each turn you get so many spawn points to bring out figures. It can be modified but normally spawn points are equal for each player. You build a warband of 16 figures and try to space it out so you can make good use of your points each turn.

[LilNewbie]

Thanks for the clarifications, jcb and endpawn. So picking 16 high priced figures would be a bad move since the opponent could get several figs out faster win the game while the high priced figures were still waiting to get on the board. Nice balance.


Newb.

[endpawn]

Yes indeed, its very well built that way. The rare figures have higher spawn costs and you cannot stack your warband full of all rares and even come close to winning a game. Commons and uncommons are just as important as rares if not moreso.

[boom]

Ooh, this game is just making me all tingly. Oog and I have got to get a game going with the little print out minis from their website.

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Ooh, this game is just making me all tingly. Oog and I have got to get a game going with the little print out minis from their website.
Already printed in high res color...

...thanks to work. :wink:

[django]

did you play with the cutout minis?

[boom]

Not yet. Twas a busy weekend for Oogs and myself. Hopefully this week.

[Joah]

Damn you Boom!!!!!

I REALLY didn't need to know about this game!!!

I checked out the rules and minis......

Damn you to HELL!!!!!!

I don't need to eat..... that much. Oogie, you caan blame Boom all you want :wink: , but trust me, you were gonna find out about Dreamblade. I mentioned this before, but a Wotc friend that worked the WizardWorld Philly Con last weekend said that DreamBlade was THE GAME of the show. It is going to be huge.

[jcb231]

Can someone explain to me why blind boosters are the way these things are sold?

How is that the most lucrative way to sell them?

I mean, in HS, if I want one of everything I can price it all out and figure out how much that will cost me...(about 300 bucks plus Nerak). With this game, getting one of everything is near impossible, unless you want to go to eBay, and WOTC doesn't make money from eBay.

Wouldn't it make more sense to sell these guys in blister packs like HS so fans can go out and buy the figures they want, and thus spend just as much, if not more money?

Once you get the twentieth piece of a figure you don't want, aren't you going to be turned off from buying boosters because the chances of getting what you want are so slim? If you knew what you were getting, you'd never be hesitant to buy.

[jcb231]

Well, to answer my own post, yes and yes:

from talkinsports.com

At the GAMA trade show in Las Vegas Wizards of the Coast unveiled a major new game initiative. Dreamblade is a collectible miniatures game featuring elaborate, somewhat larger (40mm) pre-painted minis and involving a great deal of strategy. According to lead designer Jonathan Tweet, "Dreamblade players take on the role of powerful psychic dreamlords summoning creatures to do battle in the dreamscape." The high concept description of the fast-paced new game, which takes only 20-30 minutes per contest, may be "battles in the dreamscape, the collective unconscious of humanity," but this original property with its very original set of rules, and the summoning of creatures from the unconscious sounds a lot like Magic with minis on a mat.


Hobby retailers may have wanted a straight Magic: The Gathering miniatures game, but they should be pleased with the elaborate organized play program WotC is rolling out in support of Dreamblade and with the fact that the Dreamblade game will be an exclusive "core" hobby game targeting the kind of confirmed gamers (15 and up) who patronize hobby venues. The first Dreamblade release, which will be released this summer, will include 96 figures, 32 commons, 32 uncommons, and 32 rare figures. Starter Sets ($29.99) include 16 random miniatures, rules and a play mat. Booster Packs ($14.99) will contain seven miniatures, one rare, two uncommon, and four commons. The Booster Packs will come in cases, each of which will contain 12 packs. WotC plans to release Baxar's War, the first expansion for Dreamblade in October. Baxar's War will include 60 new figures and will be boosters only.



A magic minis game could be cool, but I hope they don't flood the market with these things too much.

[netherspirit]

Can someone explain to me why blind boosters are the way these things are sold?

How is that the most lucrative way to sell them?

I mean, in HS, if I want one of everything I can price it all out and figure out how much that will cost me...(about 300 bucks plus Nerak). With this game, getting one of everything is near impossible, unless you want to go to eBay, and WOTC doesn't make money from eBay.

Wouldn't it make more sense to sell these guys in blister packs like HS so fans can go out and buy the figures they want, and thus spend just as much, if not more money?

Once you get the twentieth piece of a figure you don't want, aren't you going to be turned off from buying boosters because the chances of getting what you want are so slim? If you knew what you were getting, you'd never be hesitant to buy.

The people that are buying the Blind Purchases are the people that AREN'T going to be turned off from buying the blind purchases. Some of the thrill in Collectible games is opening the pack to see what you got!

WOTC might not make money from eBay but someone had to buy the blister that the figure came in and they DO make money from that.

Basically the people that aren't turned off by Blind Purchases are going to be buying LOTS of packs, thus making WOTC more money.

[LilNewbie]

Also EBay does make WoTC money on the first sale. There are a lot of shops that will by scads of booster cases to split into single sales on EBay auctions.

I wish they didn't do blind purchase but it does make WoTC a lot of money.

Still the game looks amazing. I just hope they don't screw it up with broken pieces that require errating and banning for tourney play.

Newb.

[Miniature Geek]

Blind buys are addicting, it's a form of gambling, and just like people who go and throw money at the slots, people like me (just spent around 90 dollars on D&D minis) are throwing money at these. Only are payoffs are more freguent, and with blind buys, the stuff you don't want, someone else might, so you trade.

[ninthdoc]

Blind buys are addicting, it's a form of gambling, and just like people who go and throw money at the slots, people like me (just spent around 90 dollars on D&D minis) are throwing money at these. Only are payoffs are more freguent, and with blind buys, the stuff you don't want, someone else might, so you trade.

Egg-friggin'-zactly!

There have been days when I've felt like I needed to go to GA because of my blind purchase buys. I've had days when I got rare after rare and streaks when I just got crap over and over again.

I get more excited about opening a blind purchase than scratching off a lotto ticket.

http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/REGamblMoney01HL1.gif

[Miniature Geek]

Blind buys are addicting, it's a form of gambling, and just like people who go and throw money at the slots, people like me (just spent around 90 dollars on D&D minis) are throwing money at these. Only are payoffs are more freguent, and with blind buys, the stuff you don't want, someone else might, so you trade.

Egg-friggin'-zactly!

There have been days when I've felt like I needed to go to GA because of my blind purchase buys. I've had days when I got rare after rare and streaks when I just got crap over and over again.

I get more excited about opening a blind purchase than scratching off a lotto ticket.

http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/REGamblMoney01HL1.gif

Good to know I'm not alone. BTW I love that little smiley.

[boom]

Blind buys follow the tried and true standard set by baseball cards. Yeah, you want that Nolan Ryan. Yes, you get about 20 Burt Hootens first, buy when you snag Nolan, life is good. :wink:

I'm a bit turned off w/ CMG's thanks to mechwarrior, but I'm chompin' at the bit for this game.

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Here's a teaser pic. The mini's look smaller than they actually are. The map actually takes up most of my dinner table. The figures are actually an impressive 40mm.

http://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/article_teaser.jpg

The left side, had big hitters, who rolled 14 attack dice (6 for the Axemorph Demon, 6 for the Iron Thug, and 2 for the Asylum Escapee). Those dice yielded 16 hit points, 4 blades, and 2 misses (an excellent roll).

The blades where used like mana to activate special abilities (some positive, some negative). 2 were used for a one time special of the Demon Crit10 (add 10 damage to attack) and The Iron Thug had to Fumble (-2 to attack) still... this was a whopping attack. Enough to destroy (or disrupt) the smaller enemies who were out numbered 3 to 2.

The right side did however get to deal a deathblow on their way out and managed to muster 6 attack damage, enough to disrupt the Iron Thug.

Shift or attack? Claim ground or destroy enemies? Lots of strategy.

Not till August.

[LilNewbie]

Sweet pic, Oogie! How did you get the game already (sorry if I missed your explanation earlier)?

Newb.

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Funny... I didn't realized how the post was worded.

I do have a "Virtual" Starter and Booster Sets, and a "Virtual Map".

These are actually just printouts (cut and fold) with stats (they look good in high res color).

And the map is a about 18 regular (8 1/2" x 11") pieces of paper taped together (again printed to reproduce the map).

I'll post a pic of it later (looks good for paper cut outs).

The pic in the other post was a sneak peak from Wizards.

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/dbm_article_20060512virtualstarter_picMain_en.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/global/images/dbm_article_20060606virtualbooster_picMain_en.jpg

[ninthdoc]

Are they going to be using those weird bases? Ugh! :puke:

[LilNewbie]

LOL! I was thinking... "Dang, Oogie's got some deep contacts at WoTC!" :D

Newb.

[boom]

I take it Wizards battle-report is up. I'm hightailing it over there now. :wave:

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Are they going to be using those weird bases? Ugh! :puke:

Not sure... I know the game is not scheduled for Release until August.

Prototypes? not sure.

Bases or not though, the mechanics are sweet, and the minis are awesome.

http://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/gallery/Bladehound_LG.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/gallery/Ekkyon_Wayfarer_LG.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/gallery/Lunar_Handmaiden_LG.jpg

[toddrew]

http://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/gallery/Bladehound_LG.jpg


I've said this before (likely in this very thread :) ), but when Khosumet is re-issued with stats deserving a "darklord" this is the sculpt that should be used :)

[SlikkRikk]

Whoa -- that is my new Khosumet. Add a few abilities, beef him up to 4 att/4 def and boost his points to 110 and that's a sweet unit there!

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

http://www.wizards.com/dreamblade/images/gallery/Bladehound_LG.jpg


I've said this before (likely in this very thread :) ), but when Khosumet is re-issued with stats deserving a "darklord" this is the sculpt that should be used :)

Whoa -- that is my new Khosumet. Add a few abilities, beef him up to 4 att/4 def and boost his points to 110 and that's a sweet unit there!

Add to the fact that it will make Khosumet roughly Krug Sized. Now THAT is a Darklord!!!!

[boom]

Nope, the battle report is not up yet. :(

[ArchonShiva]

One thing I really liked about Heroscape was that when I saw the really cool winged mini on the box, that mini was actually inside the box! Now they give us the Handmaiden as one of the very first pics, and none of these early pics seem part of the starter set.

Go HS!

(Well of course, years from now, I'll be buying up non-rares at discount prices to use for customs...)

[endpawn]

Well every single picture of the entire set has been spoiled. About half the pieces have been spoiled to the point you can use them to play (46 or so?). By far the best and of course free way to try Dreamblade out is on Vassal via online.

As for the size of Oogies post, if you look one box to the right of the fight theres a demon and a smaller guy standing next to him. The demon would be about the size of the DW from the main set. The smaller guy would be about Sir Denrick size.

The bases shown in the picture are indeed official. Each of the 4 factions (madness, passion, valor, fear) have their own color and the cost, stats, and special abilities are printed onto the base for reference. In additon the full wording for specials and "flavor text" is printed on the bottom of the base. (you can see it on the tipped over dead guys)

[boom]

Oogie and I had our first games, yesterday, with the downloadable paper figures from the website. Okay, here we go:

-The game mechanic is easy to pick up, but the depth of strategy lags just behind chess. I found myself trying to think two to three moves ahead. The only bummer, unlike chess, is you may not get that figure spawned into the column you need it because, like Oogie and I, you roll 1's like they're going out of style. :lol:

-Deathblow is a killer. Sometimes during the game I found myself hoping I would be the 2nd just so Oogie would stop killing my figures w/ his deathblows. I finally spawned my Axemorp Demon and put the 'ol stomping on his Noble Dragon. So what does he do with his 6 deathblow dice? He rolls an 11! A freakin' 11! Sheesh. :x

-You are limited in your downloadable figure picks, but the Gun-Possessed Killer, the Eagle-Feather Warrior, and Savage Ogre are pretty cool. Our initiative rolls were pretty inconsistent and bringing out the big boys was problematic, at best.

-I usually excell at rolling 1's, 2's and 3's in all my other games. I was astounded to learn how much I've improved at rolling 4's and 5's with this game. :cry:

-Three games, 2 massacres and 1 closer, but all wins by Oogie. We are going to play chess on my Dad's marble chess board just so I can beat him over the head with it. :twisted:

I cannot wait until August. The game is quick and fun, easy to learn, but very challenging. The minis look beautiful. Pick up the latest Inquest, if you haven't already, and check out the Whirlwind Dervish, Doomsinger, Malborn Croc, Thunder Sultan and Flame Harrower, just to name a few. Until next time, Mr. Bruce. :wink:

[endpawn]

Two comments Boom. First, tournament rules, not standard game rules state if you have a no spawn turn, then the following turn you reroll 1's. That way at max, only every other turn gets no spawns. Helps keep things rolling in the game and improves the quality.

Also, with deathblows you may have missed this. If you kill one of his figures, you have full rights to dissipate that creature instead. There are many situations in which its more strategic to leave his creature alive and teleport him to avoid that Deathblow. Hope that helps some ;)

[boom]

Thanks, endpawn, we didn't know about the tournament rule for consecutive "no-spawn" rolls.

I did, however, know I could have disrupted his figures instead of killing them, and on one particular turn (Oogie can vouch for this) I said out loud, "I should just disrupt him instead of killing him." Well, my bloodthirst got the better of me and I killed him. He, of course, killed me back w/ his deathblow. :roll:

Yep, such is life.

[endpawn]

Usually as a rule of thumb kill valor when you can, they are hard to take out and have low power. Madness usually disrupts a ton so take the kill when you can. Fear is usually pretty safe to kill. Passion you have to watch out for the most.

[boom]

A battle report is now available over at the Dreamblade site. Check it out.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/bm/20060620a

[Rhydderch]

A battle report is now available over at the Dreamblade site. Check it out.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/bm/20060620a

Cool! Thanks for the link. It has some neat pictures too though they are kind of small. The DnD people need to learn to take some close-ups =)

[ReverendBayes]

Okay. Ive never gotten into a collectable game before, but I'm thinking of starting with Dreamblade (Even though it's only 2-player).

So here's my noob question with regard to blind purchase Dreamblade:

Facts:
*One case of 6 starter sets, at 16 minis each, comes out to 6*16 = 96 minis.

*A case of 12 booster packs, at 7 minis each, comes out to 7*12 = 84 minis.

IF the two cases are equally priced (pre-release prices!) why *not* go with buying the case of starter sets? Sure you'll have extra maps, but you also get 12 more minis.

Does anyone know how the # of rare/uncommon/common are distributed among the 16 in the starter set? If, for instance, there is no guarantee of a rare in the starter set, then it's clear what option to choose.

Any help here would be great. Thanks!

[Joah]

Does anyone know how the # of rare/uncommon/common are distributed among the 16 in the starter set? If, for instance, there is no guarantee of a rare in the starter set, then it's clear what option to choose.

Any help here would be great. Thanks! They don't really mix it up that much. Or I should say haven't before with any of their starter packs. You would most likely end up with many of the same commons going that route. Just a hunch.

[justjohn]

I would wager that the count is 2 rare, 6 uncommon, 8 common per 16 figure starter. There were 2 rares in the box I got to look through, but I didn't count the commons/uncommons.

[boom]

Okay. Ive never gotten into a collectable game before, but I'm thinking of starting with Dreamblade (Even though it's only 2-player).

So here's my noob question with regard to blind purchase Dreamblade:

Facts:
*One case of 6 starter sets, at 16 minis each, comes out to 6*16 = 96 minis.

*A case of 12 booster packs, at 7 minis each, comes out to 7*12 = 84 minis.

IF the two cases are equally priced (pre-release prices!) why *not* go with buying the case of starter sets? Sure you'll have extra maps, but you also get 12 more minis.

Does anyone know how the # of rare/uncommon/common are distributed among the 16 in the starter set? If, for instance, there is no guarantee of a rare in the starter set, then it's clear what option to choose.

Any help here would be great. Thanks!

There is only 1 rare in the starter sets, so a case of starters will net you 12 rares for $360.00. A case of boosters will snag you 16 rares for $240.00, retail. Sure, you'll get a few more commons, but remember, 3 of one individual figure is the most you'll have in a warband.

For me, I just preordered two starters (and snatched two promo figs :wink: ) and will buy a couple of booster cases to round out things.

Don't forget, all, that this weekend saw most WotC Premier stores receiving there demo starter sets. Oogie and I hit a LGS and played with the beautiful new figures. Very nice :D . He beat me, again. Not so nice :x . Head over to your gaming store and paw the new stuff. The figs are great.

[ReverendBayes]

Thanks, guys.

I've got confirmation on boom's info:

16-Fig Starter Set breakdown: 1 Rare, 3 Uncommon, 12 Common

7-fig Booster Set breakdown: 1 Rare, 2 Uncommon, 4 Common


So a case of Starter Sets (6 Sets) is getting you only 6 Rares and 18 Uncommons....

Compare that with at case of boosters (12 boosters) that gets you twice the rares (12 rares) and a total of 24 Uncommons.

You can find cases of 12 booster packs on ebay (and elsewhere) for only $99.

Can't wait for August!

[boom]

August 9th will be here soon :D . Have you hit a local store for a promo figure?

A vendor claims he can get cases of boosters for $90 :shock: . Here's hoping he comes through.

[Joah]

I taught the local Delegate how to play Dreamblade tonight. He basically came over, dumped out a box of 30 some mini's and said "Alright, how do I play this?". He hadn't even looked at the book. It's pretty easy. Had the core rules down pretty quick. I could see this game getting a lot of cross-over appeal with CCGers'. I could also see this as a "Non-gamer" game. My wife might play this.

[boom]

The stats and blade abilities for all the set 1 figures are now availble at the Wizards website. :D

[jcb231]

So is there anyway to get free starter kits for this game? Do they have a program for that?

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

I know that each Wizards "Premire" stores all got a free starter Demo set with 12 promo pieces (2 of each) to give away (thanks to Boom I got 5 of the 6 - and he is getting me the sixth hopefully today).

These have already been sent out. You can try contacting Wizards to get a free starter...???

[jcb231]

Ah, so they just do a few pieces.

I keep hoping I'll find a game that gives away full starters now that I've found out Clout does that.

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Ah, so they just do a few pieces.

I keep hoping I'll find a game that gives away full starters now that I've found out Clout does that.

I'm willing to try out anything.... especially if its free.

So how do you get a free Clout starter???

[Runehardt]

Here's one of the promo dudes that someone gave me.
http://upload4.postimage.org/639979/BlindSpikemauler.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/639979/photo_hosting.html)

[jcb231]

Ah, so they just do a few pieces.

I keep hoping I'll find a game that gives away full starters now that I've found out Clout does that.

I'm willing to try out anything.... especially if its free.

So how do you get a free Clout starter???

Go to the website....offhand I forget what it is, but I have a link to it in the thread on Clout Fantasy, in this very forum.

You may be able to ask at Board Game Geek too.

[boom]

Hey Rune, have you tried playing the game yet, either at a demo or with the paper figs from the internet? Just wondering what your thoughts were on the game. If you can make the SoCal tournie on the 29th of August the store has the demo starter we can use.

[ninthdoc]

boom, I'm your huckleberry.

I played about a week ago. I reminded me of Navia Drapt. I enjoyed it, but I can see where I'd get bored with it after a while.

[Runehardt]

Hey Rune, have you tried playing the game yet, either at a demo or with the paper figs from the internet? Just wondering what your thoughts were on the game. If you can make the SoCal tournie on the 29th of August the store has the demo starter we can use.
I downloaded the virtual set but never played it. The local game shop will sell me the started set that they already got. I'm thinking about it.
Unfortunately I'll be in VEGAS on the 29th of August. These tournaments keep falling on bad days for me.

[Runehardt]

Ah, so they just do a few pieces.

I keep hoping I'll find a game that gives away full starters now that I've found out Clout does that.

I'm willing to try out anything.... especially if its free.

So how do you get a free Clout starter???

Go to the website....offhand I forget what it is, but I have a link to it in the thread on Clout Fantasy, in this very forum.

You may be able to ask at Board Game Geek too.
Clout looks interesting. i just went out at lunch and purchased two starters and a bunch of boosters.
There's a Pirate set coming out in August - AAArrrgh

[jcb231]

No no people, don't purchase it! They will give you all four starters for free....for free! Oh, why....why the purchasing?

:-)

[Runehardt]

No no people, don't purchase it! They will give you all four starters for free....for free! Oh, why....why the purchasing?

:-)
I sent them an email - We'll see what comes of it. I would love to have one of those vinyl dropzone mats.
i'm also thinking about sending them some artwork to see if I can get some art on a chip!

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Note: I'll be visiting the Dreamblade booth at Comic-Con, Friday. And be snapping off pics.

[boom]

boom, I'm your huckleberry.

I played about a week ago. I reminded me of Navia Drapt. I enjoyed it, but I can see where I'd get bored with it after a while.

Bored, huh. Well, I see two reason why it should keep my interest. First, its a collectible game and, as any obsessive/compulsive like me will tell you :lol: , that's right up my alley. Next, the game has a depth that makes me use pieces of my brain that HS, 'clix and A&A don't. The need to get certain pieces w/ others, hopefully to roll that blade to activate a specific ability, all the while trying to anticipate whay your opponent is doing, and control the board at the same time, is just too much fun. 8)

[LilNewbie]

Yesterday, I got a chance to play a couple of Dreamblade games at an FLGS demo night and my first reaction is WOW!! The game has a lot going for it. First, the miniatures are just astounding. I would say about 80% of the miniatures are just plain frickin' awesome looking. 10% are hilarious and the other 10% are meh. Pretty good averages when considering other CMGs out there. The game play is very well thought out and the tough decision between shifting (moving) or striking (attacking) becomes a big factor. A quick breakdown of the game follows (I'm only relaying how they taught us the rules. If something is wrong with how I describe a rule, please let me know):

Winning a game of Dreamblade requires a player to win 6 turns. To win a turn, a player must score more conquest points than the other player. Conquest points are scored by defeating enemy units and controlling certain scoring spaces on the map. Controlling spaces means that you have figures in a space and the opponent doesn't (uncontested.)

Each player chooses 16 figures as a pool. You can have any Dreamblade figures desired but you can't have more than 3 of any type in your pool.

Initiative is determined by each player rolling a D6. High roll wins (1st turn reroll ties). Each figure has a spawn cost and both players add the initiative dice together to determine their spawn points for the turn (spawn points can be modified by casualties taken on a previous turn.) On the first turn, there will always be a spawn phase. After the first turn, if a player rolls a 1 for initiative, there will be no spawn phase for that turn. Initiative winner (first player) chooses spawns and places them according to some interesting placement rules. Second player does the same.

First player now gets two actions. There are only two actions to choose from at this time: Shift or Strike (you cannot combine these actions.)

Shift: A player may move any or all of his figures one space. Figures already in contested spaces (spaces that contain enemy units) cannot move.

Strike: A player may attack with any or all figures that are in contested spaces. Roll the number of attack dice equal to all the attack values in a space and determine outcome (a little more on this later.) A player may choose the order of the spaces to attack in but the outcome of one space must be concluded before moving to another space.

Once the first player completes two actions, then the second player gets to choose from the same action list and complete two actions.

After both players have acted twice, then you add up conquest points and the player with more conquest points wins the turn. No one wins a turn on a tie of conquest points. Conquest points don't carry over from turn to turn.

The game has some very interesting things going for it:

1. I love the initiative/spawn point determination. Very cool idea and the fact that not being able to spawn some turns can really impact tactics.

2. Combat is very unique. The heart of the combat system is the special abilities that are enabled by rolling the sword symbol on the dice. The combat dice are six-sided and have the following sides: 1, 2, 3, empty diamond, full diamond and sword symbol. The numbers are damage caused, the diamonds are misses (at this point in the game but I have a feeling their will be abilities activated by them later) and the sword symbol (which is used to activate abilities.) If you do roll any sword symbols, they must be used which can be okay but there are detrimental abilities too. The owning player can determine where to apply the sword symbol on his figures. Also attackers my choose which figures to apply damage too (there are exceptions to this also) and each figure has two defense numbers (e.g. 4/6): The 4 is the disruption value and the 6 is the destroyed value. If a figure takes damage equal to its disruption value but less than its destroyed value, the attacker can move that figure to any empty space. If the figure takes damage equal to or greater than the destroyed value, the figure is destroyed. If a figure is destroyed, the attacker receives 1 conquest point at the end of the turn (and the defender receives 2 spawn points the next time a spawn phase takes place.) Also a figure destroyed in the first player's actions gets to make a deathblow (gets to roll its attack dice) against the attackers figures.

3. The tough decision between shifting or striking is at first a pain to get used to but their is a beauty to the system that shines through as the game is played more and more. Each decision (except maybe the first turn or so) is extremely important and using the two actions correctly is the key to winning the game.

4. I can see a game lasting no longer than 30 to 45 minutes once players are used to the game rules and have some familiarity with the figures in play.

The game is going to be a lot of fun to play and I can see some of my non-gamer friends playing the game with some pre-made armies. It's a combination of chess, miniature games, ccg and boardgames all in one convenient package. The collectibility aspect will turn some people off but at least give the game a try. You might be surprised how well it plays and you might catch yourself rethinking your moves the next day determining where you could have played differently or used your figures more effectively.

Newb.

[boom]

newb, that was a very concise explanation of the rule mechanics. I don't think I could have said it better myself. I'm really stoked about the game. Only 12 more days. :D

[LilNewbie]

Thanks, Boom! I am also very excited about this game. More so now after getting a few demo games under my belt. Just wish they would have let me take a starter home that night (of course, they couldn't but doesn't hurt to wish.) :D

Newb.

[ReverendBayes]

Thanks, Boom! I am also very excited about this game. More so now after getting a few demo games under my belt. Just wish they would have let me take a starter home that night (of course, they couldn't but doesn't hurt to wish.) :D

Newb.

Got the starter set from my FLGS today...they aren't going to carry Dreamblade. Night Queen was the rare...

Once the shipments arrive (I have 2x booster case on order), we're bound to get some unwanted replicate minis...I'll send you guys (Boom, LilNewbie, Oog) a PM with a list of my tradeable minis to see if you're interested!

I feel better helping HS players complete their collection than I do those strangers over on the Dreamblade boards.

[LilNewbie]

Good idea, ReverendBayes! I'll compile a list too when it gets released.


Newb.

[boom]

Thanks Rev. I have two starters and two boosters cases coming next week, hopefully, and will get a list of extra stuff together, also. Good idea.

[reapersaurus]

anyone know a good etailer that can get boxes for cheaper than retail?

And a trading thread may be warranted for HSers.com, if many people pick up some Dreamblade....

[ReverendBayes]

anyone know a good etailer that can get boxes for cheaper than retail?

And a trading thread may be warranted for HSers.com, if many people pick up some Dreamblade....

The best I've seen so far is on ebay, where a case of 12 boosters goes for $99.99 and $13 shipping.

[boom]

Dreamblade is here! :D :banana: :D :toast:

I've popped open the two starters I had on order. My rares were Crysalis Spinner and Greenlife Dryad. Most of my commons and uncommons were the same as the downloadable paper figs Wizards had on the website: iron thug, hellshrieker, bladehound and boneblade serpent. I was really hoping for a Thunder Sultan (love that fig) and, of course, the 13-year-old who picked up his starter just before me had it in his box. :evil:

I'm hoping my two cases of boosters come in this weekend. Let's hear what others have nabbed to date.

[boom]

Am I the only stooge who bought Dreamblade this week? :(

[Runehardt]

Am I the only stooge who bought Dreamblade this week? :(
I'm sure I'll be picking some up soon.

[boom]

Excellent, mayber we can through down after the SoCal tournie in September. Oogie and I had a long game tonight, slowed down by our constant analyzing of each other and a lot of Seven & Seven. The game is a blast. And the figs are even more striking when you have them in your little mitts.

[Runehardt]

Excellent, mayber we can through down after the SoCal tournie in September. Oogie and I had a long game tonight, slowed down by our constant analyzing of each other and a lot of Seven & Seven. The game is a blast. And the figs are even more striking when you have them in your little mitts.
I printed the little paper figures but never got around to trying it. I went over the "how to play" once and it looks like fun. Might take me a while to get it down though. I might pick up a starter and some boosters this weekend while looking for Heroscape stuff.

[skyknight]

Am I the only stooge who bought Dreamblade this week? :(

I bought 4 starter sets Boom, great figs

[boom]

Cool, 'knight, what were your rares, if you don't mind my asking. Hope to see you on the 25th. 8)

[skyknight]

I only have a starter and a booster right now, the rest of the order is enroute. I have some Indian named Tlamixec and Lone wolf. I will be seeing you out there on the 25th, BTW Nascar is buzzing 4 miles from my house as we speak, Actually tommorow is Nascar today is Busch, God are they loud :lol:

[boom]

Ah yes, the Glenn. Hopefully Gordon can pull off a win from the 4th spot. Enjoy the sounds of the race. :wink:

Oh, the Tlamexic Battlelord is my favorite fig in the whole set. If you pull an extra, bring him by on the 25th and I'll bring my extra rares to tempt you. :shock:

[Annerios]

I saw a demo setup of the game today at a local comic shop.

I got to see a bunch of the figures and some of them are quite nice (like the green chitinous creature with pincers) while others are just weird (the bloody
scissors).

I may pick up some singles to use with HS.

[skyknight]

Ah yes, the Glenn. Hopefully Gordon can pull off a win from the 4th spot. Enjoy the sounds of the race. :wink:

Oh, the Tlamexic Battlelord is my favorite fig in the whole set. If you pull an extra, bring him by on the 25th and I'll bring my extra rares to tempt you. :shock:

Hopefully I can tell yopu tommorow. :)

[Miniature Geek]

I'm probably going to get beaten for saying this, but to me, this game is going to get sucky.

They don't have a point system, so power creep is enevitable, and I can already see from what I've played, that the best way to win is to buy as many blind buy starters as you can so you get the best figs.

To me the game was Magic The Gathering, with figures, which is funny, because I designed a game similar to that when I was younger, but I couldn't get a good system of movement, they got that down pat. However, after playing a game, I can pretty much safely say the only reason I'm going to keep buying the figs is for Heroscape Mods.

Go ahead, beat me up now, I can take it.

[skyknight]

HHHmmmmmm very interesting opinion Minigeek....now how about a nice yummy smack in the mouth :lol:


Just kiddin, to tell the truth I have the game but have not played it yet. Looks fun though so very soon. And as you said either way the figs are great and will make wonderful scape pieces if the games sucks :wink:

[skyknight]

Alright miniGeek here we go, I now played Dreamblade and I thought it was great . I really really enjoyed it. The two phase turn is just great strategy and keeps you on the edge of your chair. I really like this game, I can't wait to get more figs :P Here's the downfall though, I am not a big gamer so I do not have alot of experience in these things so you may be right. All I know is that my kids picked it up quick and we had a great time.

[EyeOfSauron]

UPDATE BELOW

[skyknight]

I really do not have enough to trade right now, maybe sometime. Anyways I am going to design my own board instead of the chessy poster they gave me, should be fun :P

[Rodriquez]

well when my dreamblade comes in I might have some to trade, etc...

will keep ye updated :)

that is as soon as it gets here..

cheers
Rod

[ReverendBayes]

One of my 2 DB booster cases arrived this past weekend.

I was under the impression that when you order a case, you'll not be getting any duplicate rares in that case. This is NOT TRUE.

My case had 2x Greenleaf Dryads.

The other 10 rares in the case were:

Noble Dragon
Axemorph Demon
Scarab Warcharm
Dreadmorph Ogre
Fleshless Reaper
Steelborn Griffin
Falcon Soldier
Chrysalis Spinner
Ego Cannibal
Ekkyon Wayfarer

I really like the sculpts that use the translucent plastic (Noble Dragon and Chrysalis Spinner, for example). The sculpts overall are indeed very nice.

In spite of the duplicate rare, I was super pleased with this draw. Looking forward to the arrival of case #2 (sometime this week?). I'm sure I'll get some duplicates (of my first case) from this next case, and then I'll be looking to trade!

[koolkid/VGN]

Yeah, Minigeek, I see where you're getting that from, but they /can/ give figures the ability Unique. Which, IIRC, means that you can only have one in your warband. I have a dream (lol) warband;

In no particualar order;
Carrion Spiker x3 (omg key piece)
Barbstrider x3
Cannibal Pariah x3
Inspired Samurai x3
Shard Troll x2
Spellbound Scissors x2

Basically, the goal is to get all my small guys destroyed so that my Spikers can hit for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

[skyknight]

Hey got my new dreamblade stuff today. My rares were the dreadmorph ogre and the Dryad thingy. I also recieved my case of MK Lancers boosters I use for customs and such. I gotta tell you I have the 36 new Dreamblade figs next to my new 192 Lancers and the lancers cannot hold a candle to the quality of the Dreamblade figs. They are really nice, if you guys need really nice customs for HS, I am telling you now I do not believe you will find better figs right off the shelf .

[Runehardt]

I really do not have enough to trade right now, maybe sometime. Anyways I am going to design my own board instead of the chessy poster they gave me, should be fun :P

It would be awesome to make a board and build up terrain. Maybe make the scoring cells like ruins of a dungeon or castle with really short broken walls. You could even make raised portals.

I was at the local game store this evening picking up some Clout chips and the owner of the shop GAVE me a Dreamblade starter set. I told him I was interested and that I'll probably come back later and pick one up. He tore open a box and gave me one. He knows I'm going to organize a Clout Tournament at his shop so that's probably why.
I only received one rare in the set... is that normal?
The rare I got is "Zungar Bodyguard".
The guy also gave me an extra one that has P2 on the bottom. I assume that means "promo"? It also doesn't have a figure number on it. It's the "Hellshrieker" It's number 60/96. It's a common. He gave me a poster too which is pretty cool because it has a good picture of each of the figures. I can't wait to try the game but I'm off to the islands for a bit. :pirate:

[skyknight]

Thats about right, seems to be 1 rare per box. i just want to make a real nice looking board for this. I need to make the stickers for the board but I don't know how to do it. I think someone does though..... :roll:

[koolkid/VGN]

Yeah, Carrion Spiker is powerful to the umpteenth power. I even built a 'band around it!

[Gabbi]

got 1 base + 4 boosters, and played some games.
nice game, it's more a boardgame than a miniature game, easy and fun to play. since I've played only few games and own few minis I can't evaluate how well balanced it is. for now I'm pretty happy with it.

its concept is somewhat similar to Navia Dratp (http://www.naviadratp.com) a collectible miniature game by Bandai that i love VERY much.
ND is more chess-like: has pieces that move in different ways, you have to take a king-like piece to win (well, actually this is just one of the three ways to win) and, best of all, has no dice or any other random aspect.

[boom]

Anybody have a spare:

Eater of Hope *pending*
Heartsblood Temple
Shard Troll

I have for trade:

Greenlife Dryad *pending gone*
Ego Cannibal
Falcon Soldier

LMK and thanks.

[ReverendBayes]

Gee Boom, we've got similar multiples.

Want:

Darkheart Cottage
Zungar Bodyguard
Unspeakable Freak
Voodoo Manipulator
Blood Wolf

Have:

Ego Cannibal
Falcon Soldier
Greenleaf Dryad
Chrysalis Spinner
Axemorph Demon
Steelborn Griffin

As well as a few extra uncommons and lots of extra commons.

[LilNewbie]

I'm waiting for a box of boosters which will be here on Tuesday. After it arrives I'll be ready for some trading.

Newb.

[EyeOfSauron]

updated below.

[Hahnarama]

NO NO NO!!

The only good things about this game are;

The (3) free T shirts I got @ GC

and

the Free Knight of Autum Gate that DMG gave me.

The figures look great but its COLLECTIBLE!!

Run away!

[koolkid/VGN]

(insert picardfacepalm here)

You do know that if you don't get what you want, you could always trade and/or buy singles, right?

[Hahnarama]

ya on ebay!

going that route is not my thing. My real gripe was the dice mechanics. It could have been a kick a s s game if they better.

[koolkid/VGN]

;-_- there's other places... like shuffle&cut. Mind going into further detail on what you don't like about the dice mechanics? Finally, spellcheck much?

[boom]

My real gripe was the dice mechanics. It could have been a kick a s s game if they better.

Eh, I'm used to dice screwing me in just about any game I play :lol: . I like the figures, the simplicity and the fact that successive waves are not going to be as large as the 1st (60, from what I've heard). This game is cool, where smart maneuver and board management helps ease the pain of the "dice" stuff.

[LoneDragon]

The minis look great but the game costs too much and they're already planning an expansion... I'll just stick with spending my money on more HeroScape.

[LilNewbie]

The minis look great but the game costs too much and they're already planning an expansion... I'll just stick with spending my money on more HeroScape.

I'll agree that the price for the game is pretty steep. 30.00 for a starter and 15.00 for a booster (msrp, mind you) is going to detract a lot of people. Many of the minis are awesome and I love the gameplay (dice and all ;) ) but I can see this being a game for older people with more disposable income than kids. Mom won't mind shelling out 10 bucks for a few booster packs of MtG but 15.00 for 1 booster of 7 minis might not fly so easily. The price was the my biggest concern for this game but even if the game doesn't make the long haul it still is a fun "boardgame" that will be fun to play. I would like to see some 3 and 4 player variants in the future though.

Newb.

[boom]

If anyone wants to trade with EyeofSauron, feel free. Just completed a trade with him and everything went great. :D

[ReverendBayes]

The worst thing about this game is the paper mat you have to play on.

Lumber + router + dremel tool to the rescue!

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/normal_DBmap4.jpg

What am I doing wrong? I want to put a pic of the map in this thread...maybe some sort of symbolic link to the pic I just posted in the coppermine gallery.

When I type the image url above into my web browser, I go right to it!

Any help would be appreciated!

EDIT: LilNewb helped me get the pic in this post corrected. More are in my post below.

[LilNewbie]

That is a link to a page not an image.



Try this:

{img]http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/DBmap1.jpg[/img}

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/DBmap1.jpg

Awesome board! When can I expect mine in the mail? :D

Newb.

[ReverendBayes]

Thanks LilNewb!!

Here are all the pics I took:

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/normal_DBmap1.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/normal_DBmap2.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/normal_DBmap3.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10123/normal_DBmap4.jpg

[boom]

:shock: Rev, that is very cool! Yea, the paper mat is a bit of a bummer. Hopefully, a folding cardboard map is not too far in the future.

[Gabbi]

awesome board! :shock:

btw I've definitely solved the problem with folded paper maps/boards or multi part boards that tend to open apart during games: I've got a large board of plexiglass, just a bit smaller than gaming table. I place/assemble the map/board on the table, then put the plexiglass on it, so no more shifting, creases, spilled cola, erc...

[koolkid/VGN]

Yeah but now the dreamscape looks all...woodeny. Maybe get some swirling purples and greens in there to represent the trippin nature of the dreamstuff. You know kind of like the river of mad ooze from Ghostbusters, only purple....and green.

copypasta ftw

EDIT

If I make a board, it'll be made of Legos. Why? Because, the minis actaually are 5 by 5 in lego bump terms, and they even go on the nubs a bit.

[LilNewbie]

I'm looking for

Scarab Warcharm x1
Screambent Lunatic x1
Heartsblood Temple x1

Have for trade:

Ardent Zungar x5
Eagle-Feather Warrior x3
Hawk-Eyed Instigator x1
Inspired Samurai x3
Knight of Strife and Joy x1
Knight of Tomorrow x2
Loyal Scragglemaw x1
Mirrorman x4
Pearlthorn Castle x1
Runtagged Brawler x3
Sir Glorious x1
Twilight Scout x5
Zungar Bodyguard x1
Asylum Escapee x7
Doomsinger x2
Dreamstuff Entity x1
Faceless Stalker x3
Gateway to P s y c h o s i s x2
Gun-Possessed Killer x2
Nevret Screamtrooper x4
Pick-Pick x3
Spellbound Scissors x5
Blight Rat x1
Cannibal Pariah x4
Doomball x2
Eater of Hope x1 <---Trade Pending
Hellshrieker x3
Jack of Blades x3
Knight of Autumn Gate x4
Sould Grub x3
Zombie Enforcer x2
Alluring Succubus x3
Bladehound x2
Blind Spikemauler x1
Boneblade Serpent x3
Dreamreef Marauder x3
Rainforest Shaman x4
Skeever Hatchling x7
Tlamixec Battlelord x2

I Also have one sealed Dice set from a starter ( 8 Dreamblade Dice and 1 normal d6 )

I sent a few PMs out tonight for trades. PM if interested in anything listed.

Newb.

[Fallen Templar]

What is the best figure so far. How does Sir Glorius stand next to a Knight thanks for a reply

[boom]

There are a lot of good figures, but the most "in demand" figure has to be the Scarab Warcharm because of its use in the Chessmaster builds that proved so dominant in the big Gencon tournament. It seems to be going for $30.00 on ebay. After that, other Valor and Fear pieces with movement abilities like Skirmish, Advance, Fear, Expel, etc. seem to be sought after for the same purpose.

I personally like the Book of Nothing with its multi-blade warpstrike. Pretty cool stuff if you team him up with some big hitters and maybe a samurai to protect him and let him zap people all over the board.

[TweetyBird]

This is another game that my boys and I tried out recently. We enjoyed it quite a bit, but the blind-purchase aspect makes easy my decision not to bite. I can only afford one money pit at a time, after all. Care to guess what my current one is? :)

[Rodriquez]

that warchem...ouch is listed at about 40 on dreamblades site when I checked...

and I'm still waiting on my dreamblade stuff to get here! argh!!!

*hopes* *hopes* just one of those war's.....wait maybe 2 or 3 would be even better...


cheers
Rod

[LilNewbie]

The Warcharm is hot since it is in the toughest army composition at this time (Chessmaster.) Which is one of the problems with customizable games when they are new since someone will inevitably find a combo that is tough to beat. The problem will be fixed eventually with other releases (and other power combos are found.) I put the warcharm up on the want list just in case someone wanted to trade one away. :D

Newb.

[Gabbi]

found the pricy Scarab in my very first booster,
so what's this Chessmaster army composition and when can I find it? http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9921/plottingih8.gif

[LilNewbie]

Grats on your find. It's one of the few missing from my set but no biggie...in a few months, after the next release, it will probably be cheap enough to ebay it or trade for the next big thing. :D

Here is the article about Chessmaster:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/article/20060804a

You do need two Warcharms to complete the listed force.

Newb.

[Gabbi]

thanks, though I'll not get another one unless it will jump out of a booster.

[LilNewbie]

Anyone figure out a simple way to remove the figure and the black base from the outside base? I like the square black base and want to use some of the minis for other games.

Newb.

[ReverendBayes]

Anyone figure out a simple way to remove the figure and the black base from the outside base? I like the square black base and want to use some of the minis for other games.

Newb.

No, but I'm pretty sure it all starts by peeling off the stats label on the bottom of the mini.

One of these days I'm going to do just this to one of my extra commons, and then, a little exploratory surgery of sorts!

Lilnewb, if you figure anything out before me, please post.

[LilNewbie]

Removing the label reveals 4 'L'-shaped pegs on the corners of the black base inserted into the larger base. It also appears to have been glued down rather well. I might have to get some tin-snips and start removing the larger base. :D

Newb.

[Rodriquez]

just a note for those of ye lookin for a scarab warcharm...

ccgarmory has them listed on their rare singles page at 21.xx
that's still expensive at least to me, but it's less than ebay and such that Ive seen them at..

and still no luck on my order...*sig* hopefully it will be here when I get back from vacation...


cheers
Rod

[EyeOfSauron]

My first rebased DreamBlade figures:

http://static.flickr.com/69/227852323_44ddea71f7.jpg

Hope to have cards soon!



.

[LilNewbie]

Nice! Great choices for figs.

Newb.

[LilNewbie]

Got to play a few more games of DBlade last night and this game just gets better and better. I used a warband made up of Fear/Madness figs whose main strength was the ability to move the opponents figs around via blades or spawn phase abilities. It worked great even when the person playing the army screwed up sometimes. :D

Gonna work on a Valor/Passion warband next but want to do something a little of the wall and not the normal stuff.

The best part about the game, so far, is people are making some great warbands without having to spend a lot of money for the rare and powerful figs (except the Warcharm but you don't need it to make an effective army.) I've seen a couple of guys buy a starter and some boosters, trade out the stuff they didn't want and build a decent (meaning competitive) warband with those figs.

Newb.

[boom]

Hey Newb, you gonna hit any of the Edge tournaments in your area? Oogie and I are trying to make the first one this Sunday and a practice tournie tonight. The Scragglemaw repaint is pretty cool.

[LilNewbie]

Definitely. The game store running them won't start till next month...not sure why but Thursday nights are the official DBlade game night and, so far, there has been a great turnout for just practice nights. We were discussing the repaints and everyone in the discussion thought it would be cool if the repaints also had different stats (just a little change) and be unique. But hey, it's cool just to have a different looking figure. :D

Newb.

[CupidsArt]

Removing the label reveals 4 'L'-shaped pegs on the corners of the black base inserted into the larger base. It also appears to have been glued down rather well. I might have to get some tin-snips and start removing the larger base. :D

Newb.

I've been trying to find a good way of removing them myself as well and I'm feeling like I'll have to do them like a D&D Mini.

Cutting the feet away, :? :(

[LilNewbie]

I found some very good shears at Home Depot and they cut right down joint between the black and colored base. It still is a pain but works just be careful since those type of shears are very sharp and very strong. :D



Newb.

[EyeOfSauron]

UPDATED -- STILL NEED TRADES

In any trade, I will take the loss...

I will give you 2 commons for a common, 3 commons and an uncommon for an uncommon, 6 commons for a Rare. I will give you 3 uncommons for an uncommon. I will give your choice of commons and uncommons for a rare. Any resonable and most unreasonable offers will not be refused! :)

Here's my trade list:

HAVE:
3/96 Eagle-Feather Warrior C
16/96 Saint of Roses C
26/96 Asylum Escapee C
33/96 Dreamstuff Entity C
35/96 Faceless Stalker C
37/96 Gun Possessed Killer C
42/96 Neveret Screamtrooper C
43/96 Pick-Pick C
44/96 Relentless Eviscerator U
47/96 Unspeakable Freak R ----------TRADED
54/96 Doomball C
55/96 Dreadmorph Ogre R ----------TRADED
60/96 Hellshrieker C
63/96 Jack of Blades C
64/96 Knight of Autumn Gate C
69/96 Soul Grub C
72/96 Zombie Enforcer C
73/96 Alluring Succubus U
76/96 Blind Spike maulter C
78/96 Blookthirsty Redcap U
79/97 Bloneblade Serpent C
82/96 Flame Harrower U ----------TRADED

WANT:
2/96 Brighthammer Avenger R ----------ACCQUIRED
5/96 Hawk-eyed Instigator U
9/96 Kinght of Tomorrow C ----------ACCQUIRED
15/96 Runetagged Brawler C
19/96 Sir Glorious R
20/96 Steelborn Griffin R
21/96 Steelborn Lion U
38/96 Iron Thug C ----------ACCQUIRED
40/96 Malborn Croc U
93/96 Shard Troll R

PM me if you are interested.

[boom]

I have an extra:

Ego Cannibal
Falcon Soldier

I need:

Shard Troll
Heartsblood Temple
Scarab Warcharm

Any help would be appreciated. 8)

[LilNewbie]

So anyone compete in the Edge Tourneys yet? The Local shop here has the Edge tourneys set for 4:00 which is way to early for working people to get there. Some of us are trying to convince them to shift (pun intended) the time to a little later in the evening. It would be a strike ( :D ) in the right direction.

I did get to play 3 games last night and enjoy it more each time I play. Won 2 and lost 1.

Newb.

[Hahnarama]

Just say NO to Dreamblade

[Rodriquez]

got my dreamblade stuff in today and am still sorting it..
but so far I've gotten a ton of passion stuff..
is this normal?

also it seems the boosters aren't really random everyone Ive opened has had 4 commons, 2 unc's, and 1 rare.

and the 2 starters I bought have had: 11 commons, 4 uncommons, 1 rare

doesna really seem random to me there?

[LilNewbie]

LOL, Hahn. Don't knock it till you try it. :P

The number of rares, uncommons and commons are standard for each starter/booster. The randomness is what fills those slots. You should be getting all the same Rare in all the boosters, etc.

And Passion does seem to show up more than others.

Newb.

[boom]

Oogie Da Bruce played in an edge tournie last week and scored a Scragglemaw repaint, lucky stiff. I hope to make my first this Sunday. We played at our LGS last night, but his Chessmaster walked (advanced? skirmished?) all over my warpstrike army. Oh well :oops: .

[ReverendBayes]

Well, the chessmaster has got serious competition with the next expansion (due out late October).

Take a look at these guys (NOTE: the scorpion is actually spawn cost 8, *not* 4):

http://community.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=698582


"Unstoppable" and "venom strike"---not to mention other new abilities not revealed---will wreak havoc on Chessmaster.

Can't wait for the new minis; this game is great!

[Hahnarama]

LOL, Hahn. Don't knock it till you try it. :P


Newb.

I did try it. The sculpts are awesome and you can match units together to get more plays, powers etc....but its COLLECTIBLE!! I won't get sucked into that. I just won't. (Plus the dice mechanics let me down)

PS I really like the 2 Beetchin Dream Blade T shirts I have.

[Rodriquez]

woohoo got my DM stuff sorted..but ouch almost everything I'm missing is Rare right now..

here's what I need:

13 Noble Dragon
24 Zungar bodyguard
28 book of nothing
29 Chrysalis spinner
34 Ego cannibal
47 UnspeakableFreak
51 Blight Rat
57 Ekkyon Warfarer
58 fleshless reaper
71 voodoo manipulator
77 Blood wolf
87 Lone wolf
89 Prowling leopardman
93 shard troll
96 tlamixec Battlelord


if ye have any of those and are willing to trade pm me with what yer lookin in exchange and I can check to see if I have extra's of anything else.

cheers
Rod

[skyknight]

I have some trades I will list tommorow for people to see. I would do it tonight but it's gettin late. I have zombie enforcers comin out my arse

[droolster]

LOL, Hahn. Don't knock it till you try it. :P


Newb.

I did try it. The sculpts are awesome and you can match units together to get more plays, powers etc....but its COLLECTIBLE!! I won't get sucked into that. I just won't. (Plus the dice mechanics let me down)

"Collectible" is relative. Only a few of the rares are appreciably more powerful than the rest of the set. Generally, rares are rares because of the more difficult sculpt that is involved. Unless you are entering a 10 or 20k tourney, you will have a pantload of fun with a starter and a few boosters!

[droolster]

Any Dreamblade players in Delaware or surrounding parts? I'm looking for casual play. Thanks!

[ReverendBayes]

Hi guys,

The latest evolution of my trade needs is posted below. I'm posting on the DB boards too, but would much prefer to trade with a fellow 'scaper!

HAVE:

One rare:
Axemorph Demon

Eight uncommons:
Horrid Poltergeist
Slaughter Boots
Forgeblind Punisher
Knight of Tomorrow (x2)
Doomsinger
Acolyte of Loss
Heart Render

One W5 booster: Nakita Agents & Gladiators.

WANT:

Jack in the Box (highest)
Carrion Spiker
Book of Nothing


I know some people don't like to trade Uncommons for Rares, but I'm willing to trade *ALL EIGHT* uncommons listed above for any *one* of the rares I want. Also, I'll trade my W5 booster for any one of the rares I want.

PM me if interested!

[droolster]

Days of Knights in Newark, De. is taking names...

I bought a booster from them today, and the owner told the clerk to take my name, number and email addy for an upcoming Wizards-Sanctioned tourney, their first! If you want to be included in this info, the Days of Knights number is

(302) 366-0963

The number list is in the back of a composition notebook by the register, if you get a clerk that doesn't know about the list.

Cheers!

[droolster]

I have a dreamblade have/want list. PM me if you want me to send it to you.

[Tiberius]

This looks like a great game and I have two friends that just got into playing it. I am really tempted to pick up a starter and a few boosters just to make a functional warband and give it a go. My friend keeps talking about his shard troll and how it kicks some major butt. Not sure what it does but I saw that on a lot of people's want lists. I guess that is a pretty desireable piece?

[Uprising]

This looks like a great game and I have two friends that just got into playing it. I am really tempted to pick up a starter and a few boosters just to make a functional warband and give it a go. My friend keeps talking about his shard troll and how it kicks some major butt. Not sure what it does but I saw that on a lot of people's want lists. I guess that is a pretty desireable piece?

Yea, I'm really temepted to pick up a starter and 2-3 boosters. The minis look really good. I wonder how easy it is to pick up and learn. My GF and her Dad like light games like Nexus Ops and Monsters Menace America, so I probably should take that into account.

[Rodriquez]

Dm is actually pretty easy to learn..hard to master sorta thing..

DB is easier to learn than say Horrorclix..

cheers
Rod

[boom]

Dreambladers, the promo pieces for DB's next expansion, "Baxar's War," are at you local gaming stores and are available with booster preorder. Go grab yourself the giant Bloodcut Brawler. This figures is ginormous. Ask the owner if the have any Baxar's War posters left and see all the upcoming figure releases. The "Blind Eunach" looks to be an especially unfortunate fellow.

[LilNewbie]

Thanks for the info, Boom! Baxar's War is looking to be a good set.

Newb.

[telengard]

I am loving this game but can't find anyone in my local area to play against (same issue w/ heroscape too hehe). I've only played a few times but would love to play more. Anyone here using VASSAL to play and/or looking for someone to play against?

www.vassalengine.org

There's a module for Dreamblade which is pretty nice.

~telengard

[Rhydderch]

Just wanted to mention to anyone who is interested: WOTC is hosting UnCon this week. It is basically an online convention through their chat and forums. Amongst other events they will have an online chat with one of the Dreamblade game designers on Friday.

You can find more information on their events for the week here:

http://wizo.wizards.com/uncon/pages/events.php?sort=2

[telengard]

Just wanted to mention to anyone who is interested: WOTC is hosting UnCon this week. It is basically an online convention through their chat and forums. Amongst other events they will have an online chat with one of the Dreamblade game designers on Friday.

You can find more information on their events for the week here:

http://wizo.wizards.com/uncon/pages/events.php?sort=2

I missed this unfortunately and really wanted to be in there. I have yet to find a transcript. Anyone seen one?

~telengard

[jcb231]

If anyone wants to purchase my Dreamblade set please PM me. I don't have a lot, but I'm planning on selling it all.

[ReverendBayes]

If anyone wants to purchase my Dreamblade set please PM me. I don't have a lot, but I'm planning on selling it all.

PM sent.

[droolster]

test

[droolster]

I am trying to post my "for trades" here using cut and paste, but I keep getting this message...

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /community/posting.php on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

obviously, I have permission, as this and my previous "test" post went through. any ideas?

[LilNewbie]

Make sure the word p s y (without the spaces) is not in any part of the post. If it is, you have to space the letters or something along that line.


Newb.

[droolster]

updated wants and haves in bold 11/13/06

Unless there are a few rares changing hands, I'd like to keep my trading within the U.S. Shipping can be quite pricey otherwise!


PM me iffin' you have any offers. Thanks for perusing!

HAVES

Rares

Bloodhawk Barag
Cyclopean Sprite
Virtuous Maiden
Baxar the Soulstitcher
Unspeakable Brothers
Darkbringer x2
Stag Zealot
Equitar x2 - 1 wrapped, 1 unwrapped
Mangler x2 - 1 wrapped, 1 unwrapped

Scragglemaw repaint
Butcher promo P13
Nevret Warmaster promo P14
Bloodcut Behemoth promo P15

Blood Wolf
Ego Cannibal
Night Queen
Book of Nothing
Chrysalis Spinner
Zungar Bodyguard
Windborne Blademaster
Falcon Soldier
Tlamixec Battlelord
Whirlwind Dervish
Eater of Hope

Uncommons

Immortal's Resting Place
Clawclan Scout
Gent
Naga Broodqueen
Lockjaw
Faceless King
Ooktolok x2
Wayward Spiker x3
Horned Marauder
Citadel of Tourture x3
Bloodcut Behemoth x3
Arch of Triumph x2
Tower of Faces
Ogrol Ragelord


Slaughter Boots x2
Alluring Succubus x2
Painmonger x2
Thunder Sultan x2
Accolyte of Loss x2
Knight of Pain and Sorrow x2
Blight Rat x2
Skull Hill x2
Pearlthorn Castle
Inscribed Axebeast x2
Knight of Strife and Joy x2
Lunar Handmaiden
All Seeing Mage x2
Gateway to P sychosis x2


I also have for trade seven complete sets of P2-P7 Promos.


Wants

Rares

Pearlthorn Gargoyle
Heartsblood Temple
Unsated Ragedrake
Angel of Sunrise



That's it for now.
Oh, and a whole bunch of commons. I'm not looking for any, but to sweeten the pot, I may be able to add some to the trade.

[droolster]

Make sure the word p s y (without the spaces) is not in any part of the post. If it is, you have to space the letters or something along that line.


Newb.

WOW, that was totally it! Gateway to P sychosis did me in. Now...why is that?

[Cavalier]

Make sure the word p s y (without the spaces) is not in any part of the post. If it is, you have to space the letters or something along that line.


Newb.

WOW, that was totally it! Gateway to P sychosis did me in. Now...why is that?It's a bug in the PHP database backend of the site (not the fault of the admins or anyone here...it is the base code that has the bug). other words, like p y thon have the same effect

[jcb231]

All of these, plus my starter set materials (dice, etc) are for sale. PM me with a serious offer. I'm willing to sell everything as a lot or piece by piece. You must pay all shipping costs plus a fair price for the figure.

RARES:
29. Chrysalis Spinner
77. Blood Wolf
89. Prowling Leopardman

UNCOMMONS:
27. Bloated Parasite
32. Doomsinger
41. Misbegotten Mutant
62. Horrid Poltergeist
69. Thunder Sultan

COMMONS:
1. Ardent Zungar
3. Eagle-Feather Warrior
9. Knight of Tomorrow
15. Runetagged Brawler
16. Saint of Roses
22. Twilight Scout
33. Dreamstuff Entity
35. Faceless Stalker
60. Hellshrieker
61. Hive Pincer
68. Soul Grub
72. Zombie Enforcer
91. Rainforest Shaman
94. Skeever Hatchling, X2

PROMOTIONAL (from Gencon 2006):
-Hive Pincer, X3
-Jack of Blades, X3
-Blind Spikemauler, X3

[Tiberius]

My friends who are getting into this really big taught me how to play last night and I was really impressed. It isnt all about just overpowering your opponent. You have to worry about casting cost, special abilities, movement and all sorts of things and you dont really win for killing things, you win by holding positions or taking positions. And I really like the miniatures, I think they are very detailed and well done. I am buying into this game the first chance I get.

[jcb231]

I'll sell you the items above if you want. Eh? Eh?

[skyknight]

any idea on how much JCB????

[telengard]

My friends who are getting into this really big taught me how to play last night and I was really impressed. It isnt all about just overpowering your opponent. You have to worry about casting cost, special abilities, movement and all sorts of things and you dont really win for killing things, you win by holding positions or taking positions. And I really like the miniatures, I think they are very detailed and well done. I am buying into this game the first chance I get.

I agree, you have to think a little bit and sometimes the best thing to do is to *not* be aggressive, i.e. disrupt instead of destroy or stay put instead of pressing forward. Lots of agonizing decisions too which for me is the sign of a good game. :)

~telengard

[Tiberius]

So where do you buy this game, and JCB, what price are you looking for and would you throw in a map and dice? I am looking to get a starter set but you have better than that there. If it is in my price range I would consider it.

[jcb231]

Anyone who's interested drop me a PM.

I'd sell immediately to anyone for break-even plus shipping. I think I have one Starter and one Booster? I may have two boosters. I'll have to check how many figures are in each thing.

Anyway, I'll sell the lot right now for the average going price of a Starter and one or two boosters...however many boosters worth I have there. That means you're getting a bunch of Gencon promo figures thrown in for free...having a bunch of extra figures like that is a real nice way to start the game. How's that sound?

[EyeOfSauron]

I still have DreamBlade 1st wave figures rotting in my closet.

I am looking for trades!

Dream Blade for Dream Blade
In any trade, I will take the loss...

I will give you 2 commons for a common, 3 commons and an uncommon for an uncommon, 6 commons for a Rare. I will give you 3 uncommons for an uncommon. I will give your choice of commons and uncommons for a rare. Any resonable and most unreasonable offers will not be refused!

Dream Blade for Heroscape

I will generously trade DB for Heroscape figures from any booster. I do not need master set figs. These make great customs for HS, but most are too graphic for my kids. Make me an offer.

Here's my trade list:

HAVE:
3/96 Eagle-Feather Warrior C
16/96 Saint of Roses C
26/96 Asylum Escapee C
33/96 Dreamstuff Entity C
35/96 Faceless Stalker C
37/96 Gun Possessed Killer C
42/96 Neveret Screamtrooper C
43/96 Pick-Pick C
44/96 Relentless Eviscerator U
54/96 Doomball C
60/96 Hellshrieker C
63/96 Jack of Blades C
64/96 Knight of Autumn Gate C
69/96 Soul Grub C
72/96 Zombie Enforcer C
73/96 Alluring Succubus U
76/96 Blind Spike maulter C
78/96 Blookthirsty Redcap U
79/97 Bloneblade Serpent C

WANT:
5/96 Hawk-eyed Instigator U
15/96 Runetagged Brawler C
19/96 Sir Glorious R
20/96 Steelborn Griffin R
21/96 Steelborn Lion U
40/96 Malborn Croc U
93/96 Shard Troll R

You can find images for all of these at:
http://ww2.wizards.com/DreamBlade/Gallery.aspx?filter=Base%20Set,All%20Aspects

PM me if you are interested.

[zxc]

Anyone know of a good online source to buy Dreamblade figures?

Thanks

[Uprising]

Anyone know of a good online source to buy Dreamblade figures?

Thanks Try here http://gamingetcstore.com/dreamblade.html

[Tiberius]

Try gameoutfitters.com

They have half cases and cases really discounted. I have been really pleased with thier service so far too.

[Havokscry]

Ok, here is some potentially great news for the players out there. I went to a mall tonight (you know, the big building with a bunch of stores in it and a food court). There is a store called Go! Games or something like that. They're mostly a seasonal chain owned by Borders I believe that sell Board Games and Puzzles. The one at the local mall, just closed up for the season. I did some travelling today, however, and came across one that is open year round. Ok, my point. They have all their games 50% off through this weekend. Most of the games are overpriced. For example, they have the Axis and Allies board games for $45 regular price. With the savings, it's not that much better than Toys R Us pricing. I bought the World of Warcraft boardgame for $40. It looked fun. Ok, getting to my point.

They had Dreamblade starters and boosters for 50% off. I didn't check the price of the starters, but the boosters are $7.50 after the sale. Might be worth the trip for some of you.

[Tiberius]

So has anyone seen any of the new expansion out for this? Chysotic Plague, I think it is called? Just curious what people thought of them and if they were worth buying.

[LilNewbie]

I've picked up a few boosters and it's pretty good. I measure the releases on two seperate criteria:

1. Are there any figures that I want to help build armies or replace figures in already built armies? Depends on the armies you play but there were a few I wanted to help reinforce a few of my armies.

2. Are there any new sculpts that will be useful in HS and other games? There were about 8 to 10 sculpts in this release that I could see being used in HS as customs. The scale of Dreamblade is bigger than HS so most of the Human sculpts are useless except for one or two armored figures. The monstrous/robotic sculpts are easy to integrate into HS and I already created one unit from the Swordstrider sculpt called the Brazen Crusaders. There wasn't as many useful figures in this set as there were in the Base set and Baxar's War though.

Overall, I would say that this set was decent. There are a few power pieces but like usual they are rare. If not looking to complete a set, I would hit the Wizards Dreamblade site and look over the stats of the set and possibly just pick up the singles that interest you on EBay.

Newb.

[Tiberius]

Lilnewbie

I just picked up some of the Chrysotic Plague last night and I agree with your opinions, they are adequate, though my booster random draws were not exactly what I would have picked if I had chosen my own rares (mostly locations, I am not a location person). Though the medusa was an interesting addition. Some of the sculpts are very well done. I did see your customs based on the sword strider and I have to say I really like them. I like the sword strider as well, it seems to be a solid figure in the game.

[LilNewbie]

Thanks, Tiberius.


I just won 2nd at the 1K Tourney in town. Prize: $300.00 :excited:

1st place was won by an excellent player and very cool individual. At the end of the first round, he handed one of the new young players a bunch of spares to take home since the new guy didn't have much in the way of figures. That was classy!

Newb.

[Tiberius]

That is classy, it is great to see that people out there still do stuff like that especially in the cutthroat dream blade tournaments. Congrats on your second place win.

[toddrew]

Finally picked up a starter set over the weekend. Though mainly picked up the game for HS customs, I really am looking forward to playing some games - no interest in the D&D or Star Wars mini's games, but this one seems to be my bag :)

Anybody care to comment on "power creep" in this game? I know there's only been one expansion released so far, but does it augment or "replace" the original figures?

[LilNewbie]

There are two expansions: Baxar's War and Chrysotic Plague. The Power Creep is very minimal at this time. In fact, armies that were uber with only the base set have been overtaken by other armies. There are some very powerful pieces in each set and some extremely good armies out there but the skill of the user and luck have a lot to do with how well an army performs. For instance, my army that went 5-1 on Sunday only had 3 uniques in it (2 from the Base set and 1 from Chrysotic Plague and they weren't the normal uniques that everyone uses). I lost the last game mainly due to my opponent capitilizing on my bad dice rolls (I'm not trying to diminish his skill since he is a great player but my dice did not help the situation either. ;) )

Newb.

[Tiberius]

I agree, with only two expansions so far, power creep is not a factor yet. But it very well could be. When you get into any type of CCG or CMG with rares and a rare having a better figure for cheaper cost, you will have people willing to spend the cash to have the winning team. Though it still comes down to dice rolling in this sometimes, and no matter how powerful your creatures are, if you cant roll numbers or blades, you cant win. Spawn powers only get you so far. I just put together a warpstrike war band with alot of common figures, I think there is one rare in the entire warband, and it is alot more powerful than I gave it credit for.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Thanks, Tiberius.


I just won 2nd at the 1K Tourney in town. Prize: $300.00 :excited:


Whoah, NewB! that is HOT news! Congratulations on the placement and prize money!
With the money - more Dreamblade or Heroscape expansions?

[LilNewbie]

Thanks, Tiberius.


I just won 2nd at the 1K Tourney in town. Prize: $300.00 :excited:


Whoah, NewB! that is HOT news! Congratulations on the placement and prize money!
With the money - more Dreamblade or Heroscape expansions?

Thanks, HEH! Good call on the money...it's going to help fund the next one or two DB expansions (depending on the quality of figs in the sets).

Newb.

[droolster]

A listing of the top 8 warbands at the recent 10k in New York shows that from the Chrysotic Plague expansion, there were 8 Aviax Firebrands and 5 Boogeyman being run. The Firebrand is an uncommon and Boogeyman is a rare selling for between 5-8$ on Ebay.

Pearlthorn Dragon Knight is probably the most expensive CP piece out there at 10-20$. Dragons are always popular!

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

[Tiberius]

I have 1 Firebrand, I dont have any of those other figures, unfortunately. I would love a ragedrake.

[toddrew]

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

If I knew how to handle these things, I should cash in now, right :?: :lol: I got the Heartsblood Temple in the starter game I picked up. Yet to play a game, though I've got some people lined up to play at our next Tuesday boardgame get-together.

[droolster]

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

If I knew how to handle these things, I should cash in now, right :?: :lol: I got the Heartsblood Temple in the starter game I picked up. Yet to play a game, though I've got some people lined up to play at our next Tuesday boardgame get-together.

HBT goes for $40 to $50 on ebay regularly... :D

Dreamblade is my favorite game....ever. Every Monday Night I play with a group of skilled fellows. Just about every game is a brain-burner. I leave the event mentally drained! So many ways to get to six points.

[ReverendBayes]

I'll say too that this is a really great game. Very deep strategy. And, the prize support from WoTC is impressive. Having won two local 1K tournaments (1st place= $500), I'm (only slightly) in the black with this game.

Now to decide whether to travel to GenCon and play for $10,000 in the 50K tournament!

[LilNewbie]

Awesome, ReverednBayes! Grats on your wins. You should make the effort to head to GC. Not only for the Dreamblade tourney but a lot of us will be there at HS tourneys.

Newb.

[toddrew]

I was able to sneak a game in over the weekend, and, yeah, there's a lot going on on that small board :lol:

Going to take a while to know how to take advantage of the various abilities, but seems to me that holding plenty of creatures back in order to defend the opponents scoring cells is almost mandatory? Any general strategy tips to catch me up to speed would be appreciated.

I probably should go onto a Dreamblade specific site, but I don't like going anywhere else but here :D

[Tiberius]

It really depends on what you are using, I rarely bother defending those with my warpstrike band because I can shoot them from my own scoring cells. My other group is alot of really powerful creatures that just kill things as they run into them, I push back out of sheer force and they cant get to thier stuff. Valor guys give me a problem because they can skirmish or advance, dealing with alot of movement abilities is tough.

[LilNewbie]

It depends on your warband build but I've found that being agressive and trying to get a few turns won early in the game is a big benefit. Not only does it put pressure on the opponent but it allows you to win ties for initiative. Also, don't get wrapped up in trying to knock out your opponents figs unless it is necessary. If have a smaller chance of winning a turn through combat than winning a turn by just shifting figs, go for shifting and setting up for later turns. I've seen a lot of players get wrapped up in trying to defeat the opponent's figures that they forget the big picture and lose the game.

Newb.

[toddrew]

Thanks for the feedback, guys.

I've got a motley crew as far as warbands go right now. Not much to compare it to, but I'd imagine a fairly pedestrian Valor based band, like the nemesis Tiberius described (Knight of Tomorrow, badger-looking guy, Saint of Roses, "Unstoppabull", stuff like that - movement and staying power, but not much offense), as the main make-up. Looking forward to building around the Unspeakable Freak, though...


Yeah, I learned pretty quickly that outright kills aren't necessarily the best way to go. I also advanced pretty aggressively early on, but took a while to get used to how to play as the first player in the turn versus the second, and ended up losing turns early due to leaving scoring chances open to the other player and him being able to tie up the scoring I had done. By the time I figured out how to take advantage of "skirmish" and "advance", game was out of hand, but I did manage to make the game respectable :lol:

[toddrew]

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

Picked up another starter set today, and wouldn't ya know it: Scarab Warcharm :lol: That creature actually will be a good fit for the Valor based warband that the blind purchases seem to be leading me to...

[LilNewbie]

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

Picked up another starter set today, and wouldn't ya know it: Scarab Warcharm :lol: That creature actually will be a good fit for the Valor based warband that the blind purchases seem to be leading me to...

Grats!! That is a very useful piece but the actual figure is 'meh'.

Newb.

[toddrew]

That is a very useful piece but the actual figure is 'meh'.

Newb.

My thoughts exactly :)

[droolster]

There doesn't seem to be a true chase rare in CP. The chase rares in The base set are the Scarab Warcharm and Heartsblood Temple. The chase rare in Baxar's War is Unsated Ragedrake. All 3 are still fetching a pretty penny.

Picked up another starter set today, and wouldn't ya know it: Scarab Warcharm :lol: That creature actually will be a good fit for the Valor based warband that the blind purchases seem to be leading me to...

Lucky! (in my best napoleon dynamite voice)

Actually, the first starter I picked up had a Warcharm in it as well. That in itsself got me hooked!

[Tiberius]

You guys are lucky, I do not have a warcharm, though one of my first figures has been my favorite, the mangler, the ability to shoot your reserve figures is a great blade ability. And Baxar was another one I got early on. Love the ability to manipulate my grave yard.

[droolster]

You guys are lucky, I do not have a warcharm, though one of my first figures has been my favorite, the mangler, the ability to shoot your reserve figures is a great blade ability. And Baxar was another one I got early on. Love the ability to manipulate my grave yard.

I now have 4 (:shock: ) Warcharms! One from my booster, 2 were purchased for $58.00 and I recently won an Alt-paint at a sealed tourney. I sometime play with 2, rarely 3. Most of my games are casual, so I usually make up some goofy band that may or may not do well. All in fun!

[chezious]

I checked out the online demo of this game and it looks very cool. Learning curve will be a challenge, but looks fun. A local hobby shop in my town carries a starter set, might just get it. I'm assuming you need 2 starter sets to play against people, is that right? Other than that cool game.

[Tiberius]

Each person needs 16 miniatures and if necessary you can share the dice so at a minimum you would need 2 starters or 1 starter and a couple of boosters.

[toddrew]

I checked out the online demo of this game and it looks very cool. Learning curve will be a challenge, but looks fun. A local hobby shop in my town carries a starter set, might just get it. I'm assuming you need 2 starter sets to play against people, is that right? Other than that cool game.

To play at full strength one needs 16 figures for a warband, but no reason why a starter set by itself wouldn't be enough to get a taste of the game. Wouldn't be the most effective of warbands with the limited choice of figures, but the basics would be learned.

As for the steep learning curve, really after a couple of games, the basic strategies will be picked up, and then the refinement begins :lol: Really fun to play, IMHO.

[LilNewbie]

toddrew said it perfectly. The basics of the game are fairly easy to pick up but the 'refinement' is learning how all the abilities interact on the gameboard. The game is extremely fun and most of the pieces can be picked up from secondary sources (EBay, trading, etc.) on the cheap. A few of the power pieces are expensive but the nice thing is you can have a competitive army without spending a lot of money.

Head over to the Wizards site (www.wizards.com) and use the store locater to find a DB store (Edge Tourneys or Demos) near you. So far, I've found the DB players responsive to new people and most of them will let you demo the game with borrowed pieces to try it out. You can also download the rules and game FAQ from the Dreamblade site.

Newb.

[LilNewbie]

A new figure from the Anvilborn set:

Archangel Tommy
http://ww2.wizards.com/global/images/dbm_article_20070321a_pic2_en.jpg

Newb.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Awesome!
:lol:

http://ww2.wizards.com/global/images/dbm_article_20070321a_pic2_en.jpg

[Tiberius]

Yeah, I am looking forward to the anvil born set, the three figures they have posted so far look great.

[LilNewbie]

Posted a scanned poster of the Anvilborn set over in the Cool figures from other games to use in HS (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=227270#248108) thread.

Newb.

[toddrew]

Posted a scanned poster of the Anvilborn set over in the Cool figures from other games to use in HS (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=227270#248108) thread.

Newb.

Figures like Deathwind Priest are why I like the idea of this game so much. Actually playing it is pretty fun too :lol:

[monte_kev]

I am looking to unload my small dreamblade collection. if your looking to get into the game I have everything you need. Just PM me, for the minis list.