i saw eragon

[dragonfire]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. The acting was ok, the affects rocked but they killed the story itself. The movie left out hafe of what could have been in the book.
Im sad now.

[johnny139]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?

[Cavalier]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?Not really a kiddy book :roll:

Could be classified as a young adult/teen book.

It's actually pretty impressive, especially considering that the author was 19 at the time he wrote it.

[johnny139]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?Not really a kiddy book :roll:

Could be classified as a young adult/teen book.

It's actually pretty impressive, especially considering that the author was 19 at the time he wrote it.

Well, not kiddy, but Middle School Fantasy Harry Potter Magic Dragon Book.

[hextr1p]

The reviews for this movie have been pretty awful. Which is unfortunate, considering the books are decent and the fan following is pretty strong.

I feel bad for the author, though. Especially at his age. Putting forth such an effort as writing a novel trilogy, and then to see his 'first born', for lack of a better term, "crapped upon" when translated to the big screen.

And I think the author was 19 when he finished the book. But started the book when he was 15...? My numbers could be way off here... :?

[Cavalier]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?Not really a kiddy book :roll:

Could be classified as a young adult/teen book.

It's actually pretty impressive, especially considering that the author was 19 at the time he wrote it.

Well, not kiddy, but Middle School Fantasy Harry Potter Magic Dragon Book.
You mean like the Hobbit? I read that in middle school. Or LoTR? I read that in middle school. Or the Illiad? Read that in middle school. Or...well, you get the point, I hope.

I find your generalization suprising...especially coming from a kid

[johnny139]

As in, it's aimed at 12 year olds. Am I right or wrong?

[Chimpy]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?Not really a kiddy book :roll:

Could be classified as a young adult/teen book.

It's actually pretty impressive, especially considering that the author was 19 at the time he wrote it.

NO. NO. NO!!!

It is not impressive. *Disclamer: I like Eragon, a lot. I do not think that it deserves the respect it has been given by the general populace.*

Eragon is a copy cat of Star Wars. The only difference is that it uses LOTR characters. The main characters have no personality, the book overuses overused cliches, and it can be very predictable.

In addition there is a lot of writing problems. Passages like this: "Sorry," Brom apologized.* are littered throughout the book.

I like this book. But, it is not the classic most people say it is.


*Emphasis mine. Tell me that is not redundant.

[netherspirit]

As in, it's aimed at 12 year olds. Am I right or wrong?

Aren't you 13?

[johnny139]

As in, it's aimed at 12 year olds. Am I right or wrong?

Aren't you 13?

Yes, but I read more advanced books, and classics.

[Cavalier]

Eragon? Isn't that the kiddy book about dragons?Not really a kiddy book :roll:

Could be classified as a young adult/teen book.

It's actually pretty impressive, especially considering that the author was 19 at the time he wrote it.

NO. NO. NO!!!

It is not impressive. *Disclamer: I like Eragon, a lot. I do not think that it deserves the respect it has been given by the general populace.*

Eragon is a copy cat of Star Wars. The only difference is that it uses LOTR characters. The main characters have no personality, the book overuses overused cliches, and it can be very predictable.

In addition there is a lot of writing problems. Passages like this: "Sorry," Brom apologized. are littered throughout the book.

I like this book. But, it is not the classic most people say it is.

I never said it was a classic. I said it was impressive especially considering the age of the author. Does it have flaws? Certainly, but then do many novels by much more mature authors.

I say this about it: it is better than anything I tried to write at 19 (and I did try :wink: )

[Chimpy]

The book was not aimed at 12 year olds. I mean the trilogy includes dancing naked elves and the like, so I would put the target audience a little bit older than 12.

[netherspirit]

As in, it's aimed at 12 year olds. Am I right or wrong?

Aren't you 13?

Yes, but I read more advanced books, and classics.

Thats all well and good, but you really shouldn't dismiss ghe book just because its aimed at teens. I am 24 and just finished the Harry Potter series (whats out so far) and its amazing and once you get to about the 4th book it is definately no longer a children's series. The Eragon trilogy is pretty good so far and more advanced that most books aimed at younger kids.

Just don't dismiss it because its for a younger audience (younger doesn't mean dumber) After all you play a game designed for 8 year olds...

[hextr1p]

Yes, but I read more advanced books, and classics.
Like the kid from "The Never Ending Story!"

;)

Just kidding with you, J139.

[johnny139]

Nudity does not = mature. There's a naked girl in Dragonball, aimed at children.

And I'm not dismissing it because it's named at small children, I'm dismissing it because it's a tween fantasy book that have seemed to come out in waves since Harry Potter came out. Which I do read, read the first one in second grade, saw the fourth movie, and have read every other one since.

[Chimpy]

Just don't dismiss it because its for a younger audience (younger doesn't mean dumber) After all you play a game designed for 8 year olds...

:lol: That is a classic line! I laughed for a good while there.

[netherspirit]

I haven't seen the Eragon movie yet, but have been skeptical of it seen I saw that trailer. Not because its a movie based on a book (which generally suck) but because of 2 casting choices. Jeremy Irons and John Malchovich, particularly the latter. I just didn't see them when thought of Brom and the King Galbbawhateverhisnameis...I think if they went with an unknown teen actor for Eragon they should have went the distance and gone with an all unknown cast. I have found that movies with actors who are relatively unknown tend to turn out better.

[CupidsArt]

I'll wait until after the whole kid thing is over to make my comments, :roll:

[netherspirit]

I'll wait until after the whole kid thing is over to make my comments, :roll:

I was trying to put an end to it with my above post. :D

[Aldin]

I read Eragon in preparation for seeing the movie, even though that particular habit often leads me to find a new book to love and movie with which to be disappointed.

Pros:
Page turner - the story flows very nicely for the most part.
Well-imagined world - the people and places had life in them.

Cons:
Poor plotlines - formulaic and without climax
Deus Ex Machina - lots of amazing, last-second, out-of-nowhere saves

Decent enough - I'll read Eldest too and am looking forward to seing the movie. I must admit though -from the previews I can't quite figure out why the Elf has such a prominent looking role...

~Aldin

[netherspirit]

Decent enough - I'll read Eldest too and am looking forward to seing the movie. I must admit though -from the previews I can't quite figure out why the Elf has such a prominent looking role...

~Aldin

And the King too, I don't even think he was in the first book, possibly not even in the second. Its been awhile since I read them so I could be mistaken.

[Chimpy]

That was the thing with the movie that really upset me. I am okay with the elf being blonde as long as she was the best for the part. I was okay with an unknown actor playing Eragon as long as he was the best for the part.

But why show the king? They do not show the king in the first two books for a reason. Much like Emporer Palpatine, he is the ultimate evil. He does not come until the end. He was a figure shrouded in mystery. You are not supposed to know what he looks like until it is too late.

Murtagh also dissapointed me in the acting department.

[Pattar007]

Basically to answer all questions. The book was written for young adultish age. 13-100000000000000000000. The movie is much much more toned down. Darn! I was hoping violence on a LOTRs leval. :twisted:

[ferzle]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

[netherspirit]

Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on?
Sure can, Jaws. :P

Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?
Sure can, The Princess Bride. :P

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

Not always, while it leaves some things out, The Shawshank Redemption is a very good movie, its probably my favorite movie (definately in the top 3). The novella its based on is very good as well. I was definately NOT disappointed with the movie after reading the novella.

Any other questions? :P

[Havokscry]

I thought Sin City was just as good as Frank Miller's Comic.

[netherspirit]

I thought Sin City was just as good as Frank Miller's Comic.

Another good example. :up: I bet 300 will be as good as the GN too. :)

[Chimpy]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

I was not dissapointed with the Chronicles of Narnia at all. The biggest flaw was them adding a few things and that was not enough to spoil it for me.

Actually the actor who played Edmund was horrible. His role wasn't used to much in the movie so it was not a problem there either. It might be a problem with the next movie Prince Caspian.

[dragonfire]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

true

[johnny139]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

To Kill A Mockingbird was a pretty good movie.

[Uprising]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

To Kill A Mockingbird was a pretty good movie. :puke: I remember reading that in school. Man, I hated that book. That and "I am the Cheese". Just awful.

[johnny139]

you will all probably disagree with me but the movie was ok but the book is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I hear this sort of thing all the time, and I always have the same questions when I do: Can you name one movie which was better than the book it was based on? Can you name one which does not skip a lot of the book?

Movies based on books ALWAYS disappoint those who read the book first.

To Kill A Mockingbird was a pretty good movie. :puke: I remember reading that in school. Man, I hated that book. That and "I am the Cheese". Just awful.

Never heard of "I am the Cheese", but how can you not like To Kill a Mockingbird? It's one of my favorite books; though the ending seemed a bit rushed.

[Uprising]

It's just didn't interest me. Maybe it was because it was a forced read. I always enjoy reading less when I'm forced too, yunno. As I'm sure everyone else does. I'm trying to think of what other books we were forced to read. While my class was stuck reading I am the Cheese, the other English classes got to read The Hobbit. At that age, I was much more interested in Goblins and Dwarves than I was anything else.

[DoesntCompute]

I think I hated every book I was forced to read in school.

[kenjib]

NO. NO. NO!!!

It is not impressive. *Disclamer: I like Eragon, a lot. I do not think that it deserves the respect it has been given by the general populace.*

Eragon is a copy cat of Star Wars. The only difference is that it uses LOTR characters. The main characters have no personality, the book overuses overused cliches, and it can be very predictable.

In addition there is a lot of writing problems. Passages like this: "Sorry," Brom apologized.* are littered throughout the book.

I like this book. But, it is not the classic most people say it is.


*Emphasis mine. Tell me that is not redundant.

I agree 500%. The book is a really fun read and I enjoyed reading the first two. I'll read the third too, but this is throwaway reading, not a classic. People will still be reading J.K. Rowling long after nobody even remembers that this book even existed.

The Star Wars thing is not just a little bit either. Almost every single aspect of the book is lifted from Star Wars, down to the things that people say and do in each scene. I had not read any criticism or reviews of the books before I read them and without knowing that there was any controversy about this I picked it out very easily and was kind of shocked.

The other complaint I have about the writing style is that the author demonstrates no self restraint. It exemplifies the mindset of someone who as a kid got everything he wanted far too easily and as a result doesn't realize that he has to work hard to perfect his craft. He goes on and on for chapters that are utterly irrelevant and wastes paragraphs describing the woodgrain in a table in a manner that really doesn't add anything to the book but, rather, made me start to skim read every once in a while. I would excuse him based on his age but for the fact that book 2 was much worse than book 1 in this regard, and he gets absolutely no slack for his age when he wrote the second one. He is now old enough to be judged on the merit of his writing alone without handicapping. Furthermore, when combined with the fact that his story and characters are lifted almost scene for scene from Star Wars, and his background world is lifted in large chunks from Tolkein, there really isn't all that much left...

That said I love star wars IV-VI, and good Joseph Campbell/Hero's Journey yarns in general, so it's still a fun, if "guilty pleasure," read.

[kenjib]

The reviews for this movie have been pretty awful. Which is unfortunate, considering the books are decent and the fan following is pretty strong.

I feel bad for the author, though. Especially at his age. Putting forth such an effort as writing a novel trilogy, and then to see his 'first born', for lack of a better term, "crapped upon" when translated to the big screen.

And I think the author was 19 when he finished the book. But started the book when he was 15...? My numbers could be way off here... :?

Don't feel too bad for him. There are lots of talented young adults out there but only a few have parents who own a publishing business. That's how his book got published and that's how before being old enough to drink he has enough money to live off for the rest of his life. He can feel bad if he wants, but I won't be there to feel bad with him. :lol:

[ninthdoc]

Eragon is a copy cat of Star Wars. The only difference is that it uses LOTR characters.

wisinger was kind enough to trade a copy of this book to me for some 'scape stuff. I started reading it, hoping to finish it before the movie came out. I didn't (stupid life!). Anyway, it's been a good read, but this was one of the first things I thought. The author should have just called it "Luke" and been done w/it.

I'll definitely finish the book after watching the movie, based upon the reviews I've seen decrying the movie as a blatant mishandling of the book. My son really wants to go see it and so do I. I can't wait to finish the book after having seen the movie.

[boom]

I never read the book and had no idea what the movie would involve. After having just seen it with my son, I would say it was mildly entertaining for me, but my son and nephew really dug it. The special effects on the dragon were pretty nifty, but there was no real suspense or drama in the film.

[Fallen Templar]

.
Never heard of "I am the Cheese", but how can you not like To Kill a Mockingbird? It's one of my favorite books; though the ending seemed a bit rushed.
I agree with Uprisings sentiments on TKMB, I hated when I read it in 8th grade for fun & hated it even more when I read it my Freshmen Year of High School.

FT's Problems with TKMB

1. It reeks of Southern Drall.
2.Main Lessons and Themes do not really develop until part 2
3.Constant changing of stance of Narrator 5 to 50?
4. a 60's view of the 30's
5.It's hard to really care for most of the Chracters except maybe Tom Robinson.
6. No useful information on how to kill a Mockingbird, What a jip I mean it's in the title!?

[Aldin]

On topic.

The movie of Eragon commits the #1 silver screen sin - it's boring!

The guy in front of me fell asleep!

~Aldin

[Taelord]

I just saw the movie last night. It was a great movie, but it didn't follow the book atall.

[Aldin]

...it didn't follow the book atall.

Nope, and they have created a potentially big problem for the next movie. If Arya is ever going to use magic, the question arises "well why didn't she heal Brom and Saphira, then?"

~Aldin

[InfinityMax]

The book was mildly enjoyable. An easy read, a total clone, and a completely unoriginal brain dump.

The movie, on the other hand, was abysmal. It was only slightly better than the D&D movie. Some problems I had:

1. The kid tells the dragon to fly, and throws it in the air. The dragon bursts into flames and becomes an adult. Problem: I missed the energy being converted to mass that made a three-foot-long flying lizard into a dragon bigger than a Cadillac.

2. Brom tells Eragon, 'Go buy some bread,' and gives him money. Eragon immediately goes into the fortune-teller's shack and tells her he has no money, then gets his fortune told, and never does buy any darned bread. Problem: Eragon is a slack-jawed halfwit.

3. Eragon is about to be impaled on a spear. Suddenly Brom jumps out and takes the spear for him. Problem: Eragon flew to the fortress without Brom. And he was in a room with only one door. Where the H-E-double-hockey-sticks did Brom come from? Does Brom walk through walls? Does Brom fly? If he is powerful enough to walk through walls and bend space and time, why not just do something about the spear besides stick himself on it?

4. Every phrase out of Eragon's mouth is a cliche, and if it's not one that's been used before, it will be soon. Problem: I wanted to punch that pouty-lipped jackanapes square in his chiseled jaw, hard enough that he would have to get his mouth wired shut and be unable to speak.

I took my son because he really wanted to go, but even he agreed that it was horrid. Words fail me as I attempt to describe what an awful movie this was.

[Aldin]

The book was mildly enjoyable. An easy read, a total clone, and a completely unoriginal brain dump.

The movie, on the other hand, was abysmal. It was only slightly better than the D&D movie. Some problems I had:

1. The kid tells the dragon to fly, and throws it in the air. The dragon bursts into flames and becomes an adult. Problem: I missed the energy being converted to mass that made a three-foot-long flying lizard into a dragon bigger than a Cadillac.

2. Brom tells Eragon, 'Go buy some bread,' and gives him money. Eragon immediately goes into the fortune-teller's shack and tells her he has no money, then gets his fortune told, and never does buy any darned bread. Problem: Eragon is a slack-jawed halfwit.

3. Eragon is about to be impaled on a spear. Suddenly Brom jumps out and takes the spear for him. Problem: Eragon flew to the fortress without Brom. And he was in a room with only one door. Where the H-E-double-hockey-sticks did Brom come from? Does Brom walk through walls? Does Brom fly? If he is powerful enough to walk through walls and bend space and time, why not just do something about the spear besides stick himself on it?

4. Every phrase out of Eragon's mouth is a cliche, and if it's not one that's been used before, it will be soon. Problem: I wanted to punch that pouty-lipped jackanapes square in his chiseled jaw, hard enough that he would have to get his mouth wired shut and be unable to speak.

I took my son because he really wanted to go, but even he agreed that it was horrid. Words fail me as I attempt to describe what an awful movie this was.

Oh come on Imax! That's hardly a fair review!

...

...

...

the movie wasn't nearly as good as you describe :roll:

~Aldin

[Taelord]

Yeah sorry. I forgot to put a word in there. It wasn't that great. Eragon went with arya to Ellismera, she didn't run off and leave him. Eragon never blessed the child. Saphira only breathed fire once! And that was to destroy the crystal. Durza and Eragon fought on the ground in hand-to-hand combat. Durza never cut Eagon's back open. Durza looked horibble. The Urgal's looked horrible. The Ra'zac looked horrible. There were no dwarfs. When is Katrina going to come in so that she can get captured? How is Roran going to be able to come in to bring the warship down the ocean. where are the Twins? Brom was killed by the ra'zac, not Durza. They never went to Hellgrind. They never met Joad. The tiny little town were he met Angela was supposed to be a thriving metropolis. Where did the Werecat come in? How come Galbatorix's soldiers were in the Beor mountains and how did they get there so fast? why wheren't the Beor mountains farther away? They never went through the desert. Arya wasn't awake during the trip to the Beor mountains. They left out most of angela's vision. She never said the thing about the Menoa tree, or the rock, or the fact that he would fall in love with arya. She also said his short life in the movie, but in the book she says he will have a prolonged life. Why are the Urgals normal humans? Why does Galbatorix sound gay? And what actor plays him? They don't explain why the egg was sent to eragon. It was idiotic that Saphira turned into a full size dragon in seconds. Why was the butcher fat when in the book he is described as thin and wiry? Sorry to be so picky, but it was a really bad movie.

[DoesntCompute]

Yech! My son loved the books, loves dragons, and wants to see this movie so incredibly bad. Couldn't you guys give me a positive review so I can feel better about having to see it? It doesn't have to be true, just positive.

[Buddy Lee]

I'm positive I enjoyed my time in the theatre during this movie.

Buddy Lee

[KaimasterJoe]

I am 32 and enjoy reading the LOTR novels. They are just great reading. I also love the Lonewolf series. Just fun to do. keep in mind that movies dont always follow books because they dont always translate into good movies, they have to hollywoodize them some. I dont like it either but I understand. I have not seen the movie but the previews to me look like it it will either be really good or really cheezy. When I see it I will post a reply.

[Aldin]

Yech! My son loved the books, loves dragons, and wants to see this movie so incredibly bad. Couldn't you guys give me a positive review so I can feel better about having to see it? It doesn't have to be true, just positive.

At our local theater they make Kettlecorn using movie popcorn as the base which makes it saltier and butterier(butterier?!? Is that even a word?) and thus more than fit for human consumption. My son and I greatly enjoyed snacking on Kettlecorn and sipping a chig of cherry cola, chatting about how excited we were to see Eragon together. It was a great father/son moment and as I told him afterward, "I'm really glad we got to go spend time together at the movies."


KaimasterJoe,

Your Madcat avatar makes me so nostalgic I'm tempted to start wearing my "no guts, no galaxy" pin again.

~Aldin

[KaimasterJoe]

wish I still had a no guts no galazy T-shirt, Hell still wish I had my battletech stuff, gave it away so many years ago when I thought I had gotten to old to play, my kids would love it.

[Mikestir]

Yeah sorry. I forgot to put a word in there. It wasn't that great. Eragon went with arya to Ellismera, she didn't run off and leave him. Eragon never blessed the child. Saphira only breathed fire once! And that was to destroy the crystal. Durza and Eragon fought on the ground in hand-to-hand combat. Durza never cut Eagon's back open. Durza looked horibble. The Urgal's looked horrible. The Ra'zac looked horrible. There were no dwarfs. When is Katrina going to come in so that she can get captured? How is Roran going to be able to come in to bring the warship down the ocean. where are the Twins? Brom was killed by the ra'zac, not Durza. They never went to Hellgrind. They never met Joad. The tiny little town were he met Angela was supposed to be a thriving metropolis. Where did the Werecat come in? How come Galbatorix's soldiers were in the Beor mountains and how did they get there so fast? why wheren't the Beor mountains farther away? They never went through the desert. Arya wasn't awake during the trip to the Beor mountains. They left out most of angela's vision. She never said the thing about the Menoa tree, or the rock, or the fact that he would fall in love with arya. She also said his short life in the movie, but in the book she says he will have a prolonged life. Why are the Urgals normal humans? Why does Galbatorix sound gay? And what actor plays him? They don't explain why the egg was sent to eragon. It was idiotic that Saphira turned into a full size dragon in seconds. Why was the butcher fat when in the book he is described as thin and wiry? Sorry to be so picky, but it was a really bad movie.
by taelord



my point exactly tealord they should of left the whole thing alone. All I have to say is someone screwed with LotR thier would be alot of pissed people.....

[deadeyedan42]

[off topic] mike, I love your sig!
[on-topic] this movie could not be any more screwed up! I fully agree with tae on the fact that they rushed into every thing, they made angala sound like a moron! " Angala did not ask for money did she?" I was appauled [sorry for the spelling] at this movie! however the effects where stunning! I'll give it a quick review,

Pros
1. The visual effects where perfect!
2. The sets where very breath taking.
3. The actors did a very good job at this movie
4. Durza was the coolest most evil looking guy in the movie! [ good job! make-up dep.! :thumbsup:]
cons
1. the Ra'Zak where terribly done, not even one beak! [like the book descibed the to have]
2. the film was rushed ALOT.
3. some of the main charaters was left out! [ solembum, oric, Hrothgar ect.]
4. no dwarfs at all!
5. where was the ruby rose? I saw no ruby rose!
6. what ever happened to joed and terim any way?
7. A lot of features where horribly done, arya and eragon need dark hair! and eragon didn't get his scar!
8. [ yes Im still ranting] there are a few sceans that never happend in the book!

this movie was a disaster! I hope the auther sues the studio for there imcompatance! To say the least this movie should be out lawed, but I'll get it on DVD becuase It was ok.

end of rant.

[ninthdoc]

Wow, I saw this yesterday and there was an excellent, albeit stolen from Star Wars, story in their somewhere. The move was not paced well at all and the story seemed to skip and jump worse than a 5 year old girl on a Kindergarten playground. I did like the effects and my 7 year old son loved the movie. I was very glad he had a good time, but the movie itself, sucked big time.

[dragonfire]

Yeah sorry. I forgot to put a word in there. It wasn't that great. Eragon went with arya to Ellismera, she didn't run off and leave him. Eragon never blessed the child. Saphira only breathed fire once! And that was to destroy the crystal. Durza and Eragon fought on the ground in hand-to-hand combat. Durza never cut Eagon's back open. Durza looked horibble. The Urgal's looked horrible. The Ra'zac looked horrible. There were no dwarfs. When is Katrina going to come in so that she can get captured? How is Roran going to be able to come in to bring the warship down the ocean. where are the Twins? Brom was killed by the ra'zac, not Durza. They never went to Hellgrind. They never met Joad. The tiny little town were he met Angela was supposed to be a thriving metropolis. Where did the Werecat come in? How come Galbatorix's soldiers were in the Beor mountains and how did they get there so fast? why wheren't the Beor mountains farther away? They never went through the desert. Arya wasn't awake during the trip to the Beor mountains. They left out most of angela's vision. She never said the thing about the Menoa tree, or the rock, or the fact that he would fall in love with arya. She also said his short life in the movie, but in the book she says he will have a prolonged life. Why are the Urgals normal humans? Why does Galbatorix sound gay? And what actor plays him? They don't explain why the egg was sent to eragon. It was idiotic that Saphira turned into a full size dragon in seconds. Why was the butcher fat when in the book he is described as thin and wiry? Sorry to be so picky, but it was a really bad movie.
by taelord



my point exactly tealord they should of left the whole thing alone. All I have to say is someone screwed with LotR thier would be alot of pissed people.....


couldnt agree more

[Chimpy]

How do you decipher it all?

[kenjib]

Okay I saw it. I went in expecting it to be painfully bad. It wasn't great but it wasn't painfully bad so I ended up enjoying it and having a fun time. It's really just a cheap popcorn movie. It's all about the expectations...

[Aldin]

Okay I saw it. I went in expecting it to be painfully bad. It wasn't great but it wasn't painfully bad so I ended up enjoying it and having a fun time. It's really just a cheap popcorn movie. It's all about the expectations...

Boy is that the truth! There are so many movies where my expectations informed my outcomes. The exception that proves the rule is Fantastic Four - no matter how low my expectations were, at the point where Sue Storm agrees that getting naked is the best way to slip unnoticed through a throng of people something just snapped inside me. The stupidity of that moment is so pure and unsullied I can't quite remember anything matching it in any movie I've ever seen.

~Aldin

[deadeyedan42]

no matter how low my expectations were, at the point where Sue Storm agrees that getting naked is the best way to slip unnoticed through a throng of people something just snapped inside me. The stupidity of that moment is so pure and unsullied I can't quite remember anything matching it in any movie I've ever seen.

~Aldin

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[ninthdoc]

Okay I saw it. I went in expecting it to be painfully bad. It wasn't great but it wasn't painfully bad so I ended up enjoying it and having a fun time. It's really just a cheap popcorn movie. It's all about the expectations...

Boy is that the truth! There are so many movies where my expectations informed my outcomes. The exception that proves the rule is Fantastic Four - no matter how low my expectations were, at the point where Sue Storm agrees that getting naked is the best way to slip unnoticed through a throng of people something just snapped inside me. The stupidity of that moment is so pure and unsullied I can't quite remember anything matching it in any movie I've ever seen.

~Aldin

I haven't seen this movie, but right on two counts:

Count 1. Sue should never have to get naked, her power is more of a field that would enable her to make even her clothes invisible.

Count 2. Any movie that gets Jessica Alba naked and then makes her invisible should be destroyed and everyone that worked on it should be destroyed and their families and everyone on their phone bills. There are only two exceptions to this:

Exception A. Jessica Alba must remain unharmed.

Exception B. Michael Chiklis is immune because he is the absolute badness known as Vic Mackey IRL.

[netherspirit]

Jessica Alba couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

There is going to be a Fantastic 4 sequel with the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

[ninthdoc]

Jessica Alba couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

nether, it's not her acting qualifications that I'm interested in, unless it has to do w/her acting like she's interested in me. It would be her other qualities that I'm interested in. :twisted:

There is going to be a Fantastic 4 sequel with the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

Now that would be cool.

[netherspirit]

There is going to be a Fantastic 4 sequel with the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

Now that would be cool.

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486576/)

[ninthdoc]

There is going to be a Fantastic 4 sequel with the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

Now that would be cool.

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486576/)

Okay, now Jessica Alba is not the only one exciting me. :shock:

[netherspirit]

Jessica Alba couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

nether, it's not her acting qualifications that I'm interested in, unless it has to do w/her acting like she's interested in me. It would be her other qualities that I'm interested in. :twisted:

If we were talking about porn that would be true for me too. I watch movies because I want to be entertained and watching a hot girl act badly (while somewhat awesome because she is in fact hot) doesn't entertain me.

[ninthdoc]

Jessica Alba couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

nether, it's not her acting qualifications that I'm interested in, unless it has to do w/her acting like she's interested in me. It would be her other qualities that I'm interested in. :twisted:

If we were talking about porn that would be true for me too. I watch movies because I want to be entertained and watching a hot girl act badly (while somewhat awesome because she is in fact hot) doesn't entertain me.

I completely agree with you. I don't watch any movie or television program to be entertained by scantily clad women. I never understood how folks could stomach the likes of VIP to look at those women and ignore that the story and production was so awful. I often ascribe this behavior to the same folks that actually watch wrestling. (Waits for the backlash...)

OTOH, I was referring to what should be done for making Sue Storm get naked and what should be done for making Jessica Alba get naked and then making her invisible. It really has nothing to do w/the movie itself, it was an observation on my opinion of how the people that would do such things should suffer.

I've never seen the FF movie. I couldn't wait for it to come out to go see it w/my son. I was never a huge fan of the FF, but I always have liked Galactus. Even the Silver Surfer comics were a bit too flighty (pardon the pun) for me. When I heard the bad reviews of the FF movie I didn't take them too seriously. Then I heard fans denouncing the movie and giving valid reasons and decided not to bother with it. I'm sure it will turn up on Encore Action or something sometime next year at which time I will watch it for free. I know I could get it off a newsgroup, but that would require more effort than the movie is worth based upon the information that I have on its quality or lack thereof.

In short, I don't watch movies for naked chicks, but I don't appreciate destroying a pop culture icon to get a few laughs or titillating moments and I don't appreciate being teased with Jessica Alba's nakedness or its subsequent invisibility.

[LilNewbie]

The best part about FF were the credits...because I knew it was over (oh and only paying .50 to see it.) :D

Newb.

[markwars]

I'm late to this thread, but....


My seven year-old made me promise to take him to see Eragon.

I had never read the books, nor had I even heard of them until this movie came out. I asked a coworker of mine (who has a 12 and a 10 year-old) if she had heard of it and she told me it was "a book series written by a teenager". That coupled with the PG rating and my son's maturity let me take him to see it with a clear conscience. So I went into the movie with a very open mind. I had no expectations or reservations at all.

Here's what I thought about the movie:

Over all the movie was a lot of fun. I thoroughly enjoyed almost every moment. In terms of a fantasy based action movie this one is great. It was easy to follow for the most part and I particularly liked seeing Jeremy Irons cast in his role (Brom I believe). Obviously the movie made me remember such films as Dragonheart, Lady Hawke, the LoTR trilogy, and the Star Wars films but that doesn't make it a bad movie. I thought John Malkovich was poorly used (or maybe the part was poorly cast). The evil shade guy was awesome in this movie though. This movie is no Lord of the Rings, but it isn't the Dungeons and Dragons screen adaptation (or should I say abortion) from a few years ago either.

The story itself seems like a big ripoff of Star Wars, the Anne McCaffrey novels, some Dragonlance, some Tolkien, and perhaps even a bit of Robert Asprin. If it truly was written by a teenager, then I can forgive its derivitive nature. If it was written by an adult then I can't. I'll probably pick up the book and read it with my son. He enjoys the, and I see no harm in it.

In the end I will eventually pick this movie up when it hits the sales shelves in DVD format. It's a decent movie that I wouldn't mind watching again, but I'm not going to pay $20 for it.

[kenjib]

If it truly was written by a teenager, then I can forgive its derivitive nature. If it was written by an adult then I can't.

Only the first of three was written by a teenager. The second and forthcoming third are both written by an adult. The second book is even more transparently a Star Wars derivative than the first (the movie is based only on the first book).

[Aldin]

(the movie is based only on the first book)

In much the same way in which Starship Troopers was based on a novel by Heinlein...

~Aldin, who just had to take one more potshot

[kenjib]

(the movie is based only on the first book)

In much the same way in which Starship Troopers was based on a novel by Heinlein...

~Aldin, who just had to take one more potshot

Very true!

[Loco4DaMofo]

The movie is predictable. OMG he finds this wierd egg in the forest. Umm some dudes come to his house and burn it down. Wow goes on huge adventure. As if you haven't seen enough lotr already........

[deadeyedan42]

The movie is predictable. OMG he finds this wierd egg in the forest. Umm some dudes come to his house and burn it down. Wow goes on huge adventure. As if you haven't seen enough lotr already........

Read the book, It's better than the movie.

[Cavalier]

The movie is predictable. OMG he finds this wierd egg in the forest. Umm some dudes come to his house and burn it down. Wow goes on huge adventure. As if you haven't seen enough lotr already........

Read the book, It's better than the movie.But no less predictable :wink:

[deadeyedan42]

not so! >:(