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superfrog
June 28th, 2012, 09:59 AM
The Book of Martial La Hire

C3V Wave 2 - Age of Chaos – Heroes of Paizum

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The figure used for this unit is a Pathfinder figure from the Beginner Box Heroes set. Its model number and name is Valeros, Male Human Fighter

RECKLESS SECOND SWING
When Martial La Hire wounds a figure with his normal attack, he must attack one additional time, if possible.

CHARACTER BIO:

Martial La Hire sits in the Taverne de la Licorne, drinking away his pain. His head begins to droop; he ignores the noise outside. He registers it, faintly, but it is not important. His eyes drift closed, his mind flashing with painful images. Flash. His friend Aristide cut down before his eyes. Flash. His wife, first screaming, then whimpering--then silent. Flash. His village on fire. It is so real--he can almost hear the running feet, can almost smell the burning pine.

The smoke is now burning his nose, and the running is pounding in his ears. What the ... ?

He jolts awake, prepared for the worst. He did not want to wake up in a burning tavern. Not again.

His eyes begin to focus on the scene around him. The noise is coming from outside, as is the smell. The villagers are preparing for something. Something he knows all too well: a raid.

He hears shouting from outside. "Run! The dragoons are coming! To arms, to arms!"

La Hire downs his tankard before lurching toward the door. Each step is more controlled than the last; years of training are overcoming the substantial amount of alcohol in his system. By the time the bright sun hits his eyes, he is ready to fight.

Martial gazes around, assessing the situation. The local militia is setting their spears for a charge at the end of the road. Other townsfolk are pushing over carts to block some of the paths into the village.

Indifferent to the panic overtaking the villagers, Martial begins to move through the men. He waves vaguely at them as he passes by. "Good idea, men." Hiccough. "Well done."

"You there! Where are you going?" shouts the local sergeant. "There will be enough blood on the ground in a few minutes without adding the guts of a worthless drunk to the mess."

"Crétin! I will protect the town." The sergeant snorts at this, but has too much to oversee to invest much effort. Martial faces the advancing enemy, raising one of his swords up between his eyes in a salute. Under his breath, he murmurs: "Clémence, the fates will decide if I am with you tonight."

And then Martial La Hire charges into the advancing line of twenty dragoon raiders with an animal yell.

Dust, sun flashing off twin swords, screaming men. The sergeant squints, expecting to see this drunk become the village's first offering to the dragoon raid. Instead, when the dust settles: a broken bottle, nine stunned men, nearly paralyzed by the carnage ... and eleven corpses.

The sergeant quickly rallies the villagers; they charge toward the remaining marauders, spurred by love of family and home. The distracted dragoons are quickly overcome by the wave of angry villagers that erupts from the town. Sword and shield fall this day to pitchfork and axe, ruthlessness beaten back by patriotic fervor.

The village of Charroux successfully defended their homes that day, but Martial La Hire was never seen again. The stories began that very night: forever after, the villagers told of a brave man, rescued from the pain of battle and carried into the sky by an angel. Though they know not how, generations of Charroux's children believe that La Hire is finally with his wife.


-Rulings and Clarifications-

If Martial attacks a destructible object and causes a wound, is he required to attack a second time?
Yes. Even though destructible objects are not figures, they are impacted by special attacks or special powers that only cause wounds, and Reckless Second Swing is such a power.

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Martial La Hire (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=41817): Strong stats for a low price, but tough to get into position before endgame. B

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heroscaper2010
June 28th, 2012, 10:18 AM
So if Martial La Hire had two adjacent squad figures, if he killed one would he be able to attack the other?

Also, if he killed that one and had another adjacent to him would he be able to keep attacking until he did not inflict a wound? Or does the "one additional time" wording prevent him from attacking until he does not inflict a wound?

awesomeunleashed
June 28th, 2012, 10:20 AM
So if Martial La Hire had two adjacent squad figures, if he killed one would he be able to attack the other?

Also, if he killed that one and had another adjacent to him would he be able to keep attacking until he did not inflict a wound? Or does the "one additional time" wording prevent him from attacking until he does not inflict a wound?
Yes, and (I'm pretty sure) he has a max of 2 attacks. If he didn't, he could basically auto-kill every figure around him with a Def of 0-1. That's not a power for a 70-point hero. Besides, it's called Reckless Second Swing...

Viegon
June 28th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Yep, Reckless Second Swing is basically Double Attack with some limitations, so you can only get 2 attacks out of him.

capsocrates
June 28th, 2012, 10:27 AM
So if Martial La Hire had two adjacent squad figures, if he killed one would he be able to attack the other?

Significantly, in his first version, this was the only way he could get his second attack. However, as currently worded, if he inflicts a wound on a hero figure, even if he does not destroy that figure, he must immediately make another attack--either against the same figure or a different figure.

nate the dawg
June 28th, 2012, 10:40 AM
So if Martial La Hire had two adjacent squad figures, if he killed one would he be able to attack the other?

Significantly, in his first version, this was the only way he could get his second attack. However, as currently worded, if he inflicts a wound on a hero figure, even if he does not destroy that figure, he MUST immediately make another attack--either against the same figure or a different figure.
A small, but significant distinction.

ZBeeblebrox
June 28th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Yes he MUST attack a second if he causes a wound...even if he ends up attacking his allies. (Unless there are no more figures adjacent to him after the first attack)

heroscaper2010
June 28th, 2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks. And a special thanks to ZB because I wouldn't have remembered that he'd have to attack friendlies. Not that I'd want to anyways...;)

Arch-vile
June 28th, 2012, 03:54 PM
Martial is a very cool unit that fills a niche people have want filled for a long time: 70 point hero. I like that he has solid stats and no synergy too, because we have far too few good units without that. Martial would be a kickbutt figure for a dungeon crawl or heroes only scenario too.

I look forward to Martial's bio especially, I bet it will be funny.

Haha puny Marro, I defeated you! Now follow me Myrrdin! Myrrdin?! That looks like a cut from MY sword! Oh no, what have I done?

screwDriver
June 28th, 2012, 04:44 PM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

Super Bogue
June 28th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

heroscaper2010
June 28th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

As the defending or attacking player? ;)

Arch-vile
June 28th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Well he wouldn't guard it as an attacker, now would he? ;) He would have a tough time wounding it anyway though.

superfrog
June 28th, 2012, 09:45 PM
I found Martial to be useful with Theracus, as a "T-bomb". It sets him away from friendly forces and can be a quick but devastating hit to your enemy's front line, and all for 110 pts.

kpucblek
July 3rd, 2012, 04:21 PM
I see him as a fun guys to use in an
"adventuring party". He doesn't seem to fit with many competitive armies.

capsocrates
July 3rd, 2012, 04:37 PM
I see him as a fun guys to use in an
"adventuring party". He doesn't seem to fit with many competitive armies.

He's actually a great filler / cleanup hero. I love throwing him in my armies whenever I can.

Sir Dendrik
July 3rd, 2012, 05:30 PM
He's Concan without the frills, but with a potential to attack twice, 10 points cheaper.

As far as filler goes, that's solid. Unless you're into the Zettian Guards. :lol:

flameslayer93
August 19th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

If you want to get the second attack out on Reckless Second Swing, his first target has to be a figure. DO's are not considered figures.

You are free to use his second attack on the door however. ;)

kolakoski
August 19th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Well met!

I'd be inclined to use him with Finn.

flameslayer93
August 19th, 2012, 07:09 PM
Well met!

I'd be inclined to use him with Finn.

That's an interesting idea, but a bit OM intensive isn't it? Well maybe you could use Knights...

Hawthorne
Finn
La Hire
Knights x4
550 points

Finn and La Hire move in first. If La Hire goes down before Finn, then you can still put Finn's Spirit on :gb:

Xotli
September 7th, 2012, 02:51 AM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

If you want to get the second attack out on Reckless Second Swing, his first target has to be a figure. DO's are not considered figures.

You are free to use his second attack on the door however. ;)

Well, the question is whether you'd be forced to use his second attack on the door if you had no other targets available, and SB was saying that you would (which I would agree with). Now, as to whether the door could be the first figure involved ... well, I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as you seem to believe. Let me ask the C3V Rules Team to weigh in on the topic.

Xotli
September 14th, 2012, 04:07 AM
Am I right to assume that his power is applicable to destructible objects too?

I would agree with that. There is nothing in the power that would lead me to read it any other way.

[Note to self: Don't let Martial guard a damaged castle door.]

If you want to get the second attack out on Reckless Second Swing, his first target has to be a figure. DO's are not considered figures.

You are free to use his second attack on the door however. ;)

Well, the question is whether you'd be forced to use his second attack on the door if you had no other targets available, and SB was saying that you would (which I would agree with). Now, as to whether the door could be the first figure involved ... well, I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as you seem to believe. Let me ask the C3V Rules Team to weigh in on the topic.

I have a consensus from the C3V Rules Team; would the creator of this Bo thread please add this to the OP?

If Martial attacks a destructible object and causes a wound, is he required to attack a second time?
Yes. Even though destructible objects are not figures, they are impacted by special attacks or special powers that only cause wounds, and Reckless Second Swing is such a power.

Now, for those who don't feel this is sufficient explanation, let me point out a few other things, based on the Official FAQ:

The FAQ says: "Remember, that the Door is not a figure, but it can be targeted and attacked much the same way a figure is targeted and attacked, with some exceptions." It then lists several exceptions, none of which apply in the case of Reckless Second Swing.
Yes, Reckless Second Swing does specifically say "when Martial La Hire wounds a figure"; however, so do many special attacks which we know apply to destructible objects. For instance, Explosion Special Attack says "choose a figure to attack," but we know that you can choose a destructible object, because the FAQ says: "If I target the closed door with an explosion attack (that also affects adjacent figures), will it affect figures that are adjacent to it, even if they are on the other side? Yes."


Hopefully this is sufficient for everyone.