C3V Tournament Basing Standards?

[Schulzy]

What will be the standards for basing C3V figures? This is assuming that there will be some sort of standard set for official tournament play (as there probably should be, for "official" custom units). To ask more specific questions:

- Does Zetacron have to have that little mound underneath his foot, because it absolutely refused to come off for me. What about his swivel-torso and positionable arms? Is there a margin of error for this one?

- Will figures from the D&D miniatures game take a normal medium base, or a smaller, D2 base? What about miniatures from the other games?

- What bases are acceptable for use? The recommended C3G bases? Games Workshop bases? Cannibalized Heroscape bases (which I personally blanch at using)?

Discuss.

[Quack188]

I'm hoping that the recommended bases for the C3G will be fine since I have almost everything on one of those right now and they look really good, especially when you paint them. Then again, it's not like I'll ever get to any tournaments for it to matter, but my inner OCD might chop them off if they should be on something different.

[DeathDoom]

I believe Yodaking sells Heroscape bases on an eBay store, but I don't have the link at the moment.

[mac122]

I believe Yodaking sells Heroscape bases on an eBay store, but I don't have the link at the moment.
Yes he does (http://toys.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=bases&_sacat=233&_ssn=yodajunkie&_odkw=&_osacat=233&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). They look quite nice and almost official. The only issue is that due to the pouring process he uses, the thickness will vary by a millimeter or two. That's not much untill that extra thickness prevents your figure from climbing ladders. If ordering the small single bases from him, let him know at the time you place your order if you need them to work on ladders and he will check that before he sends them.

[Scapemage]

I believe Yodaking sells Heroscape bases on an eBay store, but I don't have the link at the moment.
Yes he does (http://toys.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=bases&_sacat=233&_ssn=yodajunkie&_odkw=&_osacat=233&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). They look quite nice and almost official. The only issue is that due to the pouring process he uses, the thickness will vary by a millimeter or two. That's not much untill that extra thickness prevents your figure from climbing ladders. If ordering the small single bases from him, let him know at the time you place your order if you need them to work on ladders and he will check that before he sends them.
Cool find!

[mac122]

I believe Yodaking sells Heroscape bases on an eBay store, but I don't have the link at the moment.
Yes he does (http://toys.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=bases&_sacat=233&_ssn=yodajunkie&_odkw=&_osacat=233&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). They look quite nice and almost official. The only issue is that due to the pouring process he uses, the thickness will vary by a millimeter or two. That's not much untill that extra thickness prevents your figure from climbing ladders. If ordering the small single bases from him, let him know at the time you place your order if you need them to work on ladders and he will check that before he sends them.
Cool find!
Check out Impact Miniatures (http://impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=basing). They just added Classic and Marvel stickers for the small and large single bases. The bases are black, but can be spray painted (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1412764&postcount=18) if you choose. Tom at Impact has started preliminary work on double bases, but it may be a while before they can offer them. Yodajunkies double bases work very well, though.

[Scapemage]

I believe Yodaking sells Heroscape bases on an eBay store, but I don't have the link at the moment.
Yes he does (http://toys.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=bases&_sacat=233&_ssn=yodajunkie&_odkw=&_osacat=233&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). They look quite nice and almost official. The only issue is that due to the pouring process he uses, the thickness will vary by a millimeter or two. That's not much untill that extra thickness prevents your figure from climbing ladders. If ordering the small single bases from him, let him know at the time you place your order if you need them to work on ladders and he will check that before he sends them.
Cool find!
Check out Impact Miniatures (http://impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=basing). They just added Classic and Marvel stickers for the small and large single bases. The bases are black, but can be spray painted (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1412764&postcount=18) if you choose. Tom at Impact has started preliminary work on double bases, but it may be a while before they can offer them. Yodajunkies double bases work very well, though.
Woah! I didn't know we had someone at Impact! Well, C3G has been buying out their bases for 2 years, so I guess they decided to expand.

[The CEE]

I'm sure it would depend on the tournament organizer, but would it be a legal option to leave C3V customs attached to their original base? This would obviously cause problems for Omegacron and other future figures who are meant to be mounted on a peanut base, but what about single hex figures? Of course this would make the figures look less "official" and some of the bases may not fit on ladder rungs, but I can see no other reason why keeping the original bases wouldn't be allowed.

[Lamaclown]

I'm sure it would depend on the tournament organizer, but would it be a legal option to leave C3V customs attached to their original base? This would obviously cause problems for Omegacron and other future figures who are meant to be mounted on a peanut base, but what about single hex figures? Of course this would make the figures look less "official" and some of the bases may not fit on ladder rungs, but I can see no other reason why keeping the original bases wouldn't be allowed.
I will probably be rebasing all of my C3V figs with mac's suggestions in his above post.

As far as what is going to be acceptable at tournaments, you hit the nail on the head- it will totally depend on the TD. I am sure some TD's won't even think of allowing C3V units since, at the end of the day, they are still customs- which is fine. Others may allow them but only rebased with as close to official base sizes and shapes as possible. Others may be a little more lax as long as the base fits on a hex according the rules.

All things said, in the end, it will up to the TD.

[dok]

I'm sure it would depend on the tournament organizer, but would it be a legal option to leave C3V customs attached to their original base? This would obviously cause problems for Omegacron and other future figures who are meant to be mounted on a peanut base, but what about single hex figures? Of course this would make the figures look less "official" and some of the bases may not fit on ladder rungs, but I can see no other reason why keeping the original bases wouldn't be allowed.Speaking for myself only:

For all the single-spaced figures whose bases fit on a single hex, the original bases are fine. We already have D&D figures in the game that use the small bases. A few more figures that use those bases are no problem.

The medium Rackham bases are very comprable to classic HS bases, and I can't see anyone having a problem with them either. They are a bit too tall to fit on ladders, but it's nothing a little sandpaper can't solve.

The double-spaced figures do need to be on bases with some sort of peanut-shaped profile.

[Dad_Scaper]

Like dok and LC, I am speaking for myself only.

This is a very important question because it points out the role of C3V/SoV in the competitive community.

Remember, *your local tournament director* is in charge. :D But for myself, as a local tournament director, this is what I intend to do: If the bases they come on are Scape-sized, no rebasing is necessary. If they are Clix/MK whatever bases, I'd rather not have to see the little numbers, but I believe it's possible to work around those without completely rebasing. Grishnakh posted a tutorial, IIRC.

If rebasing is necessary - say, for a large D&D figure on one of those giant circles, or Omegacron - it has to work on the terrain. I have two left hands when it comes to this kind of thing, and I don't want anyone else to have to do something I wouldn't want to do myself.

I want to see the C3V and SoV units be as labor-free as possible. So really, for rebasing, if they look more or less right and they fit on the hexes it's good enough for me.

I wish I'd seen your question earlier, Schultzy, but it looks like you've gotten excellent advice from others already.

[nyys]

It's the double spacers that I will be most concerned with. Can't have Omegacron on a single base since he was designed in C3V as a double spaced figure.

The only issue I will have with a single spaced figure concerning the base is if it is too big for a single hex, otherwise it works for me.

[GromBloodboy]

I have debased and rebased my C3V, here are my suggestion. The smaller Confrontation/AT-43 minis (Havech Eradicators, Gnids, Kira Jax) don't have to be rebased if you don't want to do it. Just some sanding makes them work. Now for the Blade Dancers and Zaeus, I rebased Zaeus, and 2 Blade Dancers, when I decided to rerebase the Blade Dancers. This is due to the fact these minis have extremely tough plastic to cut through, and their bases fit just fine. The DnD, Clix, and large minis do need a rebase though. If you are having trouble with the rock on Zetacrons foot, do this. I put him in a pot of boiling water for 15 seconds. Then, using a flat-headed X-Acto knife (Careful, any wounds with this are long term), I sat there and worked my way around the rock, and managed to pry it off. That is what I ended up doing. All in all the minis here are really cool, and it is great if the tournament allows them. Just make sure to do what I didn't. Read the card very thoroughly, and make sure that you have your opponent and the 2 people next to you read the card before you play. You don't want to make mistakes. My Zombie Hulks were absolutely OP because of it.

[The CEE]

What kind of glue would you guys recommend for rebasing purposes? I remember reading somewhere that Krazy Glue works well. Can anyone confirm this or suggest a different alternative.

[mac122]

I use Loctite Super Glue Control Gel. It holds well, doesn't run, and it's easy to get the right amount in the right spot.

[ZBeeblebrox]

I use Loctite Super Glue Control Gel. It holds well, doesn't run, and it's easy to get the right amount in the right spot.

That's what I use ;)

[GromBloodboy]

Anyone have any short cuts for the Skeletons when it comes to sanding their bases. I have been using sand paper, but they are so thick it takes quite a bit of elbow grease and is inefficient. Has anyone taking it to a disc or belt sander?

A disk or belt sander may be a little dangerous...but a Sanding bit for a Dremel tool works for me.

[Rich10]

If you are having trouble with the rock on Zetacrons foot, do this. I put him in a pot of boiling water for 15 seconds. Then, using a flat-headed X-Acto knife (Careful, any wounds with this are long term), I sat there and worked my way around the rock, and managed to pry it off. That is what I ended up doing.Can Zetacron stand up straight if you remove the rock? I was going to re-base Zetacron and would prefer to remove the rock, but I don't want my Zetacron to lean to the side. What have most people done?

[Schulzy]

If you glue his lowest foot flat to the base, he'll stand up fine. It looks like he's in mid stop. Make sure you keep his center of gravity over the base though, or he'll tip.

[Rich10]

If you glue his lowest foot flat to the base, he'll stand up fine. It looks like he's in mid stop. Make sure you keep his center of gravity over the base though, or he'll tip.Thanks but I prefer my double spaced figures to have two feet on the floor. :reapershrug:
I think that I'm going to keep the rock.

[The CEE]

If you are having trouble with the rock on Zetacrons foot, do this. I put him in a pot of boiling water for 15 seconds. Then, using a flat-headed X-Acto knife (Careful, any wounds with this are long term), I sat there and worked my way around the rock, and managed to pry it off. That is what I ended up doing.Can Zetacron stand up straight if you remove the rock? I was going to re-base Zetacron and would prefer to remove the rock, but I don't want my Zetacron to lean to the side. What have most people done?I assume you guys were actually talking about Omegacron, not Zetacron. :shrug:

[Rich10]

If you are having trouble with the rock on Zetacrons foot, do this. I put him in a pot of boiling water for 15 seconds. Then, using a flat-headed X-Acto knife (Careful, any wounds with this are long term), I sat there and worked my way around the rock, and managed to pry it off. That is what I ended up doing.Can Zetacron stand up straight if you remove the rock? I was going to re-base Zetacron and would prefer to remove the rock, but I don't want my Zetacron to lean to the side. What have most people done?I assume you guys were actually talking about Omegacron, not Zetacron. :shrug:Yes. :oops:

[GromBloodboy]

He can, he just looks a little weird. I think the rocks adds flavor as well. Makes him look kind of cooler, like he is standing above and commanding. Having seen Omegacron's card, it is fitting.