Exclusive Con Figure?

[jcb231]

Has anyone heard any info about this year's exclusive variant?

What is Hasbro handing out at Gencon? More Neraks? Something else? Nothing at all?

Are they even going to be there representing HS? I hope so...I really want to see some solid info on Thora's Vengeance!

I'm really hoping we see an evil Raelin this year....would be nice for the Minions to have another Utgar Kyrie to crappy-bond with. I think the Zettian Guards are a prime candidate for repainting too....lots of variants could be created there.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Has anyone heard any info about this year's exclusive variant?

What is Hasbro handing out at Gencon? More Neraks? Something else? Nothing at all?

Are they even going to be there representing HS? I hope so...I really want to see some solid info on Thora's Vengeance!

I'm really hoping we see an evil Raelin this year....would be nice for the Minions to have another Utgar Kyrie to crappy-bond with. I think the Zettian Guards are a prime candidate for repainting too....lots of variants could be created there.

Kee-Mo-shi?

[CornPuff]

Maybe they'll be handing out EOVs. I would love to get my hands on some of those.

[Jason]

Hopefully there won't be any new ones. The last thing we need is another hard to get exclusive

[dlaw008]

Does there have to be a new ebay exclusive every year? Heck, Raknar's vengeance might as well be limited editions for all that anybody's seen them. :grumble:

[Venom]

I really hope this guy instead....
http://www.hasbro.com/heroscape/default.cfm?page=journal&journal=8

[Jason]

That's Grimnak, we all already have him

[DarkSpade]

10 to 1, IF there's a con exclusive again, it'll still be nerak.

[yagyuninja]

Unless Thoramun is a really bad artist, that's not Grimnak. Looks like a Marro riding a Nasty Marro/Zombie Krug!

[dickflea]

I really hope this guy instead....
http://www.hasbro.com/heroscape/default.cfm?page=journal&journal=8

That guy looks awfully mean, he might just kick some dragon @ss.

[spacemonkeymafia]

I have often wondered if that guy was Subakna and they changed his mount to a dragon because they thought it was cooler. my only flaw in this argument is that I don't know when Subakna and the article were created. I still would love this fig.

[RichardD]

It's also clearly NOT Grinmak, as the accompanying text talks about a new Marro creature. Besides which, any artist worth his salt knows the difference between a T-rex's head and a skull.

But I think we're more likely to see that creature in Wave 5.5's big creature set - I doubt that Hasbro will give away something so meaty.

More to the point, if there IS another exclusive, how in the heck are the 5 UK-based Heroscapers supposed to get one? HasbroUK tend to deny all knowledge of the game.

[Jason]

That definitely IS Grimnak. The text said he is surrounded by Blade Gruts and as well all know Grimnak bonds with them and gives them +1 attack/def. Also notice the long lance, it's not a coincidence this pic and the Grimnak figure both happen to have 1

[Venom]

That definitely IS Grimnak. The text said he is surrounded by Blade Gruts and as well all know Grimnak bonds with them and gives them +1 attack/def. Also notice the long lance, it's not a coincidence this pic and the Grimnak figure both happen to have 1

u got issues. u may want to get your eye's checked, because last time i saw grimnak had an orc riding him, not a marro :screwy:

[Agent Minivann]

That definitely IS a marro riding, and it looks like Su Bak Na's spear IIRC. It doesn't look like his mount or the Grimnak mount either. That and the fact that the journal states that it is a powerful addition to the marro army. Sure it mentions Gruts, but it also clearly states marros.

[ultradoug]

I belive that it should be Kee-Mo-shi, this is the only figure we have yet to see, she was not even on the shelf photo. This weird looking creature would most sertenly possess some sort of mind-shackle ablity, I would LOVE to see it stay true to BOTH the comic and cartoon by having her have a pendent on her figure, (would love that pendent to be a gliph because Tae also has the pendent in both the comic and the cartoon)
In both its pretty clear that the pendent is Kee-Mo-shi's way of controling Raelin to make Raelin evil (that would ALSO be a nice figure to see) however, in both the comic/cartoon, its unclear if Tae's pendent is controling him or alows him to control others, in the cartoon it shows him with the pendent glowing and he smiles. This leads me to belive that he is able to control others with it - (this also somewhat matches his profile he was bad to begin with)
anyway, if it is that other figrue thats on that weird beast I would feel let down. I really want Kee-Mo-shi. Shes a powerfull ruller - (untill Drake kills her)

[endpawn]

It's also clearly NOT Grinmak, as the accompanying text talks about a new Marro creature. Besides which, any artist worth his salt knows the difference between a T-rex's head and a skull.

But I think we're more likely to see that creature in Wave 5.5's big creature set - I doubt that Hasbro will give away something so meaty.

More to the point, if there IS another exclusive, how in the heck are the 5 UK-based Heroscapers supposed to get one? HasbroUK tend to deny all knowledge of the game.

There is a gencon in Europe too....

[endpawn]

That definitely IS Grimnak. The text said he is surrounded by Blade Gruts and as well all know Grimnak bonds with them and gives them +1 attack/def. Also notice the long lance, it's not a coincidence this pic and the Grimnak figure both happen to have 1

Seriously man? It says right in the text its a Marro. A much more obvious answer would be that he enhances wild personality figures since Drones and Blade Gruts share that trait. That would really be cool.

[dickflea]

More to the point, if there IS another exclusive, how in the heck are the 5 UK-based Heroscapers supposed to get one? HasbroUK tend to deny all knowledge of the game.

I'm in the same boat as you guys, Australia gets expansions like 9 months later. Luckily theres online sales... :D

[ArchonShiva]

That definitely IS a marro riding, and it looks like Su Bak Na's spear IIRC. [...]Sure it mentions Gruts, but it also clearly states marros.And I think this is a pretty good hint: A hivelord, surrounded by drones.

Do note that the Marro have THREE commanders, while the Orcs have none (they have champions -- that's not usually an army rank. Besides, rumours abound that Grimnak was a wimpy arrow grut they stuck on the T-Rex 'cause he couldn't shoot worth a damn (hence his having a bow and no range -- someone should fire Utgar's quartemaster).

Hasbro is supposedly out of Neraks, I don't really feel like they're going to reprint him.

[Teamski]

Hopefully there won't be any new ones. The last thing we need is another hard to get exclusive

I also hope that there isn't another exclusive. So many people were SOL when Nerak came out. Then, you had E-Bay scalpers making big $$$ off the damn things. If they do have an exclusive, they need to have it offered on the official site as an offer for proofs of purchase or something like that. I don't want to see a repeat of last year......

-Ski

[Rÿchean]

Well since i am going to gencon...

I hope there is another exclusive! :twisted:

probably be some repaint again..............

[netherspirit]

I was kind of hoping for one as well, since I am about $40 short of buying our GenCon passes. Trying to win enough playing poker to pay for them :) This will be my first time there....I want one.

[Malechi]

It is a Marro riding what appears to be an early draft of Su-Bak-Na.

What I have not noticed in this thread where everyone is berating each other's skills at observation. No one has mentioned the other figure in the image, the ...


Gorillinator!!!




http://images.hasbro.com/heroscape/images/journal8.jpg

[TheRealQ]

I think that if they have a figure it might not be a figure at all. With castles coming out in June they might want to promote sales by tossing out a unique castle feature like a ballistae, catapult, trebuchet, battering ram, statuary, palisade, catwalk, a different door, wall piece with arrow slits, grappling lines, battle tower, drawbridge, etc. This would have a lot bigger draw than just another figure and would spark interest in heroscapes latest addition.

[Malechi]

... unique castle feature like a ballistae, catapult, trebuchet, battering ram, statuary, palisade, catwalk, a different door, wall piece with arrow slits, grappling lines, battle tower, drawbridge, etc.

Although it would be cool if they did. I don't see it happening. Remember last year, Nerak was simply a repaint of the Swog Rider. The only possibility I see from your list is a repaint of the door. Which, in and of itself, will not create a desire to buy the game in the non-HS player (yes, there are people that actually don't have any desire to play HS - hopefully, science will find a cure for this malady soon).

[TheRealQ]

Although it would be cool if they did. I don't see it happening. Remember last year, Nerak was simply a repaint of the Swog Rider.

I figure that last year being their first trial at hand-outs they didn't know how well it would be received so they went simple rather than invest money in a new mold. Since the Neraks were pounced upon they might not mind spending a little money this time. Although, given their past marketing history they might not be using the best thought process, instead going with the cheapest solution.

[Hahnarama]

I say BRING IT ON! What's wrong with a Con exclusive? Hasbro wasn't the first to do this. D&D, Wizkids, etc...

The only thing I would chancge is make it availble at more than just one Con.

And I hope it is something besides a repaint this year.

[Grungebob]

Well since i am going to gencon...

I hope there is another exclusive! :twisted:

probably be some repaint again.............. :) If everyone hates repaints, why is Nerak so popular?

[Taeblewalker]

I'm thinking this was a pre-sale Su-Bak-Na. I think the mount looks a little too comical. Creepy, sure, but too big for his rider.
-Taeblewalker

[Malechi]

The only thing I would chancge is make it availble at more than just one Con.

You mean something like make it available only for children at TRU?

:twisted:

[Annerios]

You mean something like make it available only for children at TRU?

:twisted:

:rofl:

[K/H_Addict]

no way that grimmy. grimmy rides a dinosaur. this tard is on a behemoth thingy. it seems that everyone is forgetting that this guy is surrounded by drones as well as gruts. this just means that he is 100% no matter what going to be an Utgar piece....



if there is another exclusive piece, someone should pick one up for me :wink:



EDIT: missed page 2 and 3. Mal, where do you see the damned ape? i couldnt find it!

[gibberish_47]

How the heck could you possible think that is Grimnak?!? The mount is clearly not a T-Rex, and there is a Marro riding it, not an orc. What are you smoking?

[gibberish_47]

Here is the picture for clarification:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-5/1180529/Marrocreature.jpg

EDIT: I didn't see Malici's picture on page 2 :oops: , but that cannot be pre-sale Su-Bak-Na, because Thormun's Jounal came online about the same time Orm's Return hit shelves.

[ninthdoc]

Well since i am going to gencon...

I hope there is another exclusive! :twisted:

probably be some repaint again..............

Every special to date have had 2 things in common:

1) They were repaints
2) They had some kick a$$ stats and specials compared to their standard versions

I'm betting on one, and its gonna be sweet!

Even if there isn't one, GC is going to be the place to be in August!

[jcb231]

Hopefully there won't be any new ones. The last thing we need is another hard to get exclusive

Nerak wasn't that hard to get...thanks to Markwars, I got mine for free. Thanks again Markwars!

But even for folks that weren't as lucky as me, in the early days it wasn't super tough if you looked hard enough....and then they were all over the place after the TRU non-event. That's when the eBay madness truly began.

[jcb231]

I belive that it should be Kee-Mo-shi, this is the only figure we have yet to see, she was not even on the shelf photo. This weird looking creature would most sertenly possess some sort of mind-shackle ablity, I would LOVE to see it stay true to BOTH the comic and cartoon by having her have a pendent on her figure, (would love that pendent to be a gliph because Tae also has the pendent in both the comic and the cartoon)
In both its pretty clear that the pendent is Kee-Mo-shi's way of controling Raelin to make Raelin evil (that would ALSO be a nice figure to see) however, in both the comic/cartoon, its unclear if Tae's pendent is controling him or alows him to control others, in the cartoon it shows him with the pendent glowing and he smiles. This leads me to belive that he is able to control others with it - (this also somewhat matches his profile he was bad to begin with)
anyway, if it is that other figrue thats on that weird beast I would feel let down. I really want Kee-Mo-shi. Shes a powerfull ruller - (untill Drake kills her)

I doubt it'll be Kee-mo-shi.....I think they'll save the new sculpts for the retail releases.

[jcb231]

Although it would be cool if they did. I don't see it happening. Remember last year, Nerak was simply a repaint of the Swog Rider.

I figure that last year being their first trial at hand-outs they didn't know how well it would be received so they went simple rather than invest money in a new mold. Since the Neraks were pounced upon they might not mind spending a little money this time. Although, given their past marketing history they might not be using the best thought process, instead going with the cheapest solution.

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

[Feng Shui]

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

It's not an entirely bad move either. Whereas a pre-release retail model would become less and less rare as it became more and more popular, any sort of limited edition, beit a cheap reprint or repaint would be more "special" and allow the flood of retail purchases to all come in due time.

Where's the sexiness in a unit if you know everyone else will have it in a month? Nowhere. But if you know that a handful will have it EVER, that = teh secksy.

[Venom]

well... if they are to throw a repaint out there... how bout the evil raelin then? :twisted:

[jcb231]

Evil Raelin does seem to be a strong contender for a repaint. She's got her own storyline in the comics, so they could hand out comics with her to hook the kids into the story.

[ArchonShiva]

A female con exclusive? If they announced that in advance I might have to go to GenCon... <lol>

[Hahnarama]

The only thing I would chancge is make it availble at more than just one Con.

You mean something like make it available only for children at TRU?

:twisted:

Nope. Let's use HeroCllix/Mageknight as an example. The past few years they have had some pretty BIG con exclususives (Like the Apocalypse Dragon here on my desk) They were sold in Philly, and Texas, and GenCon. Big regional events where you had a chance to go. Not just one ala GenCon. I think most companies offer them as a Thank You/Bonus for coming to the Con.

[dra(gon)]

i think

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IBX/is_3_12/ai_n15881139

says all, i remember that hasbro said , they will made this figure, but why died this chara so soon..?

btw what happen to the creator?

Hannah Smith on hq read i something about her mother are not happy with hasbro, or so.

[Ditzer]

I think that it would be cool if they repainted a samarai scuplt and made it a unique hero. A super samarai that would give some sweet leadership bonuses to other samarai, etc.

[bobofett]

I think they should do a repaint of the tarn vikings and give them to einar so valguard has someone to power up on his team.

[Havokscry]

well... if they are to throw a repaint out there... how bout the evil raelin then? :twisted:

I can't picture them creating an evil Raelin. It would be kind of awkward drafting both the regular and evil versions and have them both be unique.

[Hahnarama]

Repaints are quick, easy, and CHEAP.

[Havokscry]

I wouldn't mind seeing some black knight repaints and have them assigned to Einar.

[Malechi]

I didn't see [Malechi's] picture on page 2, but that cannot be pre-sale Su-Bak-Na, because Thormun's Jounal came online about the same time Orm's Return hit shelves.

I am pretty sue all of the art used in Thormun's Journal was concept art that was laying around unused. By its very nature of crude sketching it would be perfect for use in a fictional journal. I don't believe for a second that the art was created specifically for Thormun's Journal ...



missed page 2 and 3. Mal, where do you see the damned ape? i couldnt find it!

Perhaps, the following image will help find the Gorillinator ...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/Malechi_HeroScape/thormunsape.jpg
On the right I have accentuated the Gorillinator

[endpawn]

Every special to date have had 2 things in common:

1) They were repaints
2) They had some kick a$$ stats and specials compared to their standard versions

I'm betting on one, and its gonna be sweet!

Even if there isn't one, GC is going to be the place to be in August!

Are you kidding? Youre using a single figure as a pattern? Come on now.

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

Hmmm well lets see easily the most sucessful miniatures companies are wizkids which is highly known for doing insanely unique special con exclusives and games workshop which also does unique con exclusives. Then again Heroscape was made by a toy company not a miniature company and is more board gamey as well as not really being pushed in such a competetive manner so it may break the mold. Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

[Malechi]

Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

Let me 'splain ...

It stems from the old .net days when Rob and Craig actually interacted with us. Their major point being HeroScape would never be blind purchase or collectable with some items harder to get than others; A.K.A. the "rare" figures. When Nerak arrived on the scene as a GenCon exclusive, it became by its very nature collectable. Ask anyone who doesn't have one ... they want one. Ask anyone who was able to get one ... when it finally got into their hands they felt as if they had found the Holy Grail.

Is an exclusive inherently bad, no. At least, for those lucky enough to get one that is. For all the rest, the game is now collectable ...

[ninthdoc]

Every special to date have had 2 things in common:

1) They were repaints
2) They had some kick a$$ stats and specials compared to their standard versions

I'm betting on one, and its gonna be sweet!

Even if there isn't one, GC is going to be the place to be in August!

Are you kidding? Youre using a single figure as a pattern? Come on now.

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

Hmmm well lets see easily the most sucessful miniatures companies are wizkids which is highly known for doing insanely unique special con exclusives and games workshop which also does unique con exclusives. Then again Heroscape was made by a toy company not a miniature company and is more board gamey as well as not really being pushed in such a competetive manner so it may break the mold. Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

Umm, no, I was actually referring to the TWO exclusive units that have been released to date: Nerak and the EOV.

I hate to get this started over here too, but I feel compelled to say that we were all new to the boards at some point. There just happened to be some of us that asked questions to learn rather then post without knowledge. :roll:

[Alastair MacDirk]

Every special to date have had 2 things in common:

1) They were repaints
2) They had some kick a$$ stats and specials compared to their standard versions

I'm betting on one, and its gonna be sweet!

Even if there isn't one, GC is going to be the place to be in August!

Are you kidding? Youre using a single figure as a pattern? Come on now.

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

Hmmm well lets see easily the most sucessful miniatures companies are wizkids which is highly known for doing insanely unique special con exclusives and games workshop which also does unique con exclusives. Then again Heroscape was made by a toy company not a miniature company and is more board gamey as well as not really being pushed in such a competetive manner so it may break the mold. Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

Umm, no, I was actually referring to the TWO exclusive units that have been released to date: Nerak and the EOV.

I hate to get this started over here too, but I feel compelled to say that we were all new to the boards at some point. There just happened to be some of us that asked questions to learn rather then post without knowledge. :roll:

Ugh, it's starting here, now. Thanks for that Ninthdoc. :bang:

[Grungebob]

None of this here guys!!!

[Grungebob]

Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

Let me 'splain ...

It stems from the old .net days when Rob and Craig actually interacted with us. Their major point being HeroScape would never be blind purchase or collectable with some items harder to get than others; A.K.A. the "rare" figures. When Nerak arrived on the scene as a GenCon exclusive, it became by its very nature collectable. Ask anyone who doesn't have one ... they want one. Ask anyone who was able to get one ... when it finally got into their hands they felt as if they had found the Holy Grail.

Is an exclusive inherently bad, no. At least, for those lucky enough to get one that is. For all the rest, the game is now collectable ...There is an important difference in collectibles that you pay for and ones that are given out for free. I don't think you will ever see blind purchase items from Heroscape but there is nothing wrong with giving things away for free.... How can you fault them for that?

[TheRealQ]

Another thing to consider is that Nerak is easily duplicated. Just buy an extra swog and paint him then print up a card. The same can be said for the EOV.

After looking at this again I can see why they wouldn't want to do more than a repaint. They don't want to create something that not every player has access to by one means or another. So, my castle concept isn't very realistic. I don't expect them to repaint squads so it pretty much has to be a hero.

So now which figure would I most like to see a repaint of? Probably Theracus...I could always use a second flying hero with carry. Or maybe Syvarrus; can we say dark elf anyone? Possibly they can repaint one of the Lawmen and create Utgar's first human, an Outlaw.

I'm going to have to think on this and post again tomorrow.

[K/H_Addict]

I didn't see [Malechi's] picture on page 2, but that cannot be pre-sale Su-Bak-Na, because Thormun's Jounal came online about the same time Orm's Return hit shelves.

I am pretty sue all of the art used in Thormun's Journal was concept art that was laying around unused. By its very nature of crude sketching it would be perfect for use in a fictional journal. I don't believe for a second that the art was created specifically for Thormun's Journal ...



missed page 2 and 3. Mal, where do you see the damned ape? i couldnt find it!

Perhaps, the following image will help find the Gorillinator ...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/Malechi_HeroScape/thormunsape.jpg
On the right I have accentuated the Gorillinator





all i see in your picture is a pink bunny and 2 ape-like hands. i dont see a gnator.






ninth, i almost shat myself when i read your siggy.

[Malechi]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/Malechi_HeroScape/thormunsape.jpg

all i see in your picture is a pink bunny and 2 ape-like hands. i dont see a gnator.

Well, I couldn't make it any clearer. Have someone find you a phonebook and look up a good optometrist for you ...

This is like the story my mother loves to tell. The family was riding a train from San Francisco to Chicago in the very early sixties; I was three at the time. As we sat in the dining car my mother spotted a deer out the window in the passing terrain. She spoke gently to me "Oh, look at the deer." I stared blankly out the window. As the deer came directly opposite the moving train she said again with some urgency "Look at the deer, it's right there." Again, no response. Finally in desperation as the deer was disappearing from sight, she sighed "Look at the big dog!" to which I responded with glee and laughter of a child who finally saw the big dog!

So, for just you K/H_Addict ...
"Look at the Gorillinator."
"Look at the Gorillinator, it's right there."
"Look at the big, pink bunny rabbit!"

:wink:

[bunjee]

Well, I'm going to Gencon, and if they give away an exclusive I'll lay money that they also give it away at another event like they did with Nerak. That would be better than the Elite Onyx Vipers that were supposedly easily available, but you had to pay $35 bucks.

At least with Nerak they posted the card online so you could print that out and proxy a swog rider. With the vipers, you have to sketch out a card.

If I can get extras, I'll do my best. But they probably be offered as prizes for some contest on this site if I do get them. Except the one I'll keep for Elstree as a welcome home present :P

[Rodriquez]

*drool* gencon
if only I had more vacation time to play with...


cheers

[endpawn]

EOV sets are really easy to find and I picked up a Nerak for 8 bucks. I really dont see whats so outrageous going on. I had both "hard to find" units shipping to me within 1 day of trying to find one for reasonable prices. If you honestly think its so hard to find these items, you have never played a blind purchase game...

[Hahnarama]

*drool* gencon


79 days 17 hours 19 min 54 secs

[endpawn]

I cant wait for gencon, but it sucks because the biggest heroscape tournament plays at the same time as all the other big tournaments so Ill have to sit both of them out.

[maxdemian30]

I hate exclusive minis. I always have to buy them on ebay.

[Hahnarama]

Maybe Hasbro could make EVERYONE happy by offering excl units on their web site ala wizkids or kenner. Send in X number of POP and get the excl figure.

[LilNewbie]

Maybe Hasbro could make EVERYONE happy by offering excl units on their web site ala wizkids or kenner. Send in X number of POP and get the excl figure.

That would be a good way to handle any exclusive. Too bad it makes sense so we know it's not going to happen that way. :D

Newb.

[Hahnarama]

Who knows.....maybe PenName :headbang: is here and truely is REAL!

Maybe someone here does has a connection to the FGDPs and Hasbro will get word of this and say hey this is a great idea.....then again I have a better chance of monkeys flying out of my ass!

[Jonathan]

If it is a repaint, it'll probably be one of the less-picked units that gets painted - like a Knight, Tarn, Khosumet, something like that.

Just my thought.

[Hahnarama]

All I know is that finally this week I will gt to use my Nerak on tundra.

[ninthdoc]

Khosumet

Now that is an interesting speculation. Khosumet never gets used. He's teh suxor! I'd like to see an improved version of him.

[K/H_Addict]

what do you think syd would do if they made a jousting KoW? i bet he'd cry...maybe.....lmao....fun to think about it. someone should get me a exlusive if they do have them! or, let me win in a contest...



where at is gencon anyways?

[netherspirit]

where at is gencon anyways?

:google:

www.gencon.com

Plus I am sure the answer is in this thread or the other GenCon thread. Its in Indianapolis in August. It was in Paris in April and it will be in SoCal in Nov.

[jcb231]

Cheapest is the best way to go for con exclusives....most (not all, but most) toy companies that do con exclusives do repaints or other fairly simple mods.

Hmmm well lets see easily the most sucessful miniatures companies are wizkids which is highly known for doing insanely unique special con exclusives and games workshop which also does unique con exclusives. Then again Heroscape was made by a toy company not a miniature company and is more board gamey as well as not really being pushed in such a competetive manner so it may break the mold. Im not sure why anyone is arguing new figures are a bad thing regardless of how "hard" they are to get.

You sort of answered your own point there....Heroscape is not Wizkids, and it is more fair to compare it to toy companies than game companies at present.

[jcb231]

well... if they are to throw a repaint out there... how bout the evil raelin then? :twisted:

I can't picture them creating an evil Raelin. It would be kind of awkward drafting both the regular and evil versions and have them both be unique.

They already created her for the comic, and it would be a wonderful bit of synergy to make her in figure form. It would also be cheap and easy to do.

HS is the battle of all time, so why couldn't we draft the good Raelin and then the bad one from a different point in her life?

[jcb231]

I think they should do a repaint of the tarn vikings and give them to einar so valguard has someone to power up on his team.

Those would be called Dreadguls. Info on the official site talks about them, so we can safely assume they are planned for an official wave, and thus will not be repaints of Tarns.

[reapersaurus]

well... if they are to throw a repaint out there... how bout the evil raelin then? :twisted:

I can't picture them creating an evil Raelin. It would be kind of awkward drafting both the regular and evil versions and have them both be unique.

They already created her for the comic, and it would be a wonderful bit of synergy to make her in figure form. It would also be cheap and easy to do.

HS is the battle of all time, so why couldn't we draft the good Raelin and then the bad one from a different point in her life?Craig told me back .net that they want to put out an Evil Raelin - they just couldn;t figure out a way to distribute her.
Now with Nerak as a precedent repaint, I wouldn't be surprised if they did this.

[dickflea]

I vote all registered scapers here get the exclusive figure that they might give out at the Con. :D

[MacG]

Maybe Hasbro could make EVERYONE happy by offering excl units on their web site ala wizkids or kenner. Send in X number of POP and get the excl figure.

Good idea, Hahn! I emailed this to the question address.

"Recently, I was speaking with some Heroscape fans and they mentioned their frustration trying to find Nerak, last year's Gencon figure. One bright spark mentioned that other game companies make their giveaway figures accessible through the online store. A customer buys a certain type or amount of product and is eligible to receive the special figure. This seems like a golden opportunity for Hasbro to put the online store into people's minds and distribute the giveaway figure at the same time.

Is there any chance that the Gencon 2006 might be made available (after a suitable delay to make it special) at the online store?"

[GaryLASQ]

I am pretty sue all of the art used in Thormun's Journal was concept art that was laying around unused. By its very nature of crude sketching it would be perfect for use in a fictional journal. I don't believe for a second that the art was created specifically for Thormun's Journal ...

not to mention the fact that the journal hasn't been update in ages.

i wonder if this guy is still doing HS drawings...
http://www.billydallaspatton.com/heroscape.html

anyhow back-on-topic, a couple times a week i diligently check to see if this URL is updated with a new exclusive for this year's gencon.
http://www.hasbro.com/heroscape/heroscape_gencon.pdf
i know it's a long shot that they would reuse the same filename but :shrug:

Maybe Hasbro could make EVERYONE happy by offering excl units on their web site ala wizkids or kenner. Send in X number of POP and get the excl figure.

Good idea, Hahn! I emailed this to the question address.

yes, excellent idea Hahn! thanks for emailing Hasbro about it MacG.

[Hahnarama]

i wonder if this guy is still doing HS drawings...
http://www.billydallaspatton.com/heroscape.html

I emailed his early last year. He said as far as he knew it was a one time only deal.It's too bad his work was awesome.

[reapersaurus]

Craig and Rob both (AFAIK) personally knew about this recommendation to allow HS fans to send in UPC's from HS products and get exclusive figs, a la GI Joe and other collectibles. It was discussed before .net went down, when they were part of the community, and before Gencon.

Since it still hasn't happened, I'd assume that Hasbro doesn;t want to do this for the fans, for whatever marketing reason they concocted. :roll:

[E.G.Snakeman]

I have often wondered if that guy was Subakna and they changed his mount to a dragon because they thought it was cooler. my only flaw in this argument is that I don't know when Subakna and the article were created. I still would love this fig.

I also assumed this was a prototype su-bak-na, but who can say?

[Tiberius]

I was thinking it was more like a marro assult beast like a tank or something. I was looking forward to another huge marro figure to add to my army. But I guess I can see it being a preliminary version of Su-Bak-Na as well.

[E.G.Snakeman]

What I don't understand: why are some of you lumping the EOV in with nerak??? I can go buy the EOV sets at wall mart right now! unless you know someone here who has an extra to trade, or feel like selling your extra lung to pay for one on ebay, Nerak is pretty difficult to obtain!

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to flame anyone, just trying to understand...

on a diffrent note: how tempting it is though to rub in an obvious mistake from someone who seems to relish doing it to others... but It's obvious some people aren't wrong... even when they are.
...so tempting...
must submit text... before I succumb...

[TheRealQ]

The similarities between Nerak and the EOV are that they are both repaints. If for some reason you can't get them you can buy the corresponding expansion, paint them, and print off a card.

I know, I know, EOVs seem plentiful but you must understand that it is not so for everyone. I live less than two miles from a WalMart that has about 9 EOV MS still in stock. Right now I am in Annapolis where the closest WalMart is 15 miles away and only has a few of the basic MS on the shelf. Believe it or not there are some people who live over a 100 miles from a Walmart.

[ninthdoc]

TRQ is right. Two more reasons that I lumped the EOV in w/Nerak are:

1) They are both "limited edition" (EOVs say that on the back of the MS box, Nerak is by his very nature)
2) They are also both not even listed on the HS.com website.

All these points separate both of the units from the Obisidian Guard and any other figures made to date. I am well aware that the EOV are more attainable than Nerak. That's why I only have 2 Neraks, but am sitting on 7 EOVs (2 of which are gifts for folks on this site, and 1 of which I'll be giving away another time).

[netherspirit]

I'm glad I got my Nerak shortly after last years GenCon. I paid $11 for him.

Got the EOV's on Thanksgiving, they rang up on the Black Friday price of like 29.99 at the Wal-Mart near my mom's.

Considering that I am going to GenCon this year, I certainly hope there is an exlusive :)

[Malechi]

i wonder if this guy is still doing HS drawings...
http://www.billydallaspatton.com/heroscape.html



It is to bad he is no longer the HS artist (he did 1 & 2, but not 3 & 4), he had a nice clean look. The later pecillers (R. Friend & J. Leisten) seemed to be very child friendly and quickly/crudely done. Perhaps DC wanted very quick renditions to save money...



... Two more reasons that I lumped the EOV in w/Nerak are:
...

2) They are also both not even listed on the HS.com website.

...

I contacted Hasbro about this, the response was simply that they would inform the website people of the oversight. No action has been taken thus far.

[ninthdoc]

I contacted Hasbro about this, the response was simply that they would inform the website people of the oversight. No action has been taken thus far.

On that or any other proposed "upgrades" to their site. If you read the scroll, it still shows that "Utgar's Rage" is now available for order in HasToyshop.com. C'mon folks. You're seriously losing focus here!

[TheRealQ]

I contacted Hasbro about this, the response was simply that they would inform the website people of the oversight. No action has been taken thus far.

On that or any other proposed "upgrades" to their site. If you read the scroll, it still shows that "Utgar's Rage" is now available for order in HasToyshop.com. C'mon folks. You're seriously losing focus here!

:lol: Now that's funny.

[ninthdoc]

I contacted Hasbro about this, the response was simply that they would inform the website people of the oversight. No action has been taken thus far.

On that or any other proposed "upgrades" to their site. If you read the scroll, it still shows that "Utgar's Rage" is now available for order in HasToyshop.com. C'mon folks. You're seriously losing focus here!

:lol: Now that's funny.

BTW, the "You're" in the last sentence was directed at Hasbro, not Malechi. :oops:

[Malechi]

BTW, the "You're" in the last sentence was directed at Hasbro, not Malechi. :oops:

Dang! And, here I thought we was gonna have us a good ol' fashioned Flame War goin' on in these here parts! I was even loadin' my keyboard with buckshot ...

:wink:

[ninthdoc]

BTW, the "You're" in the last sentence was directed at Hasbro, not Malechi. :oops:

Dang! And, here I thought we was gonna have us a good ol' fashioned Flame War goin' on in these here parts! I was even loadin' my keyboard with buckshot ...

:wink:

Nah, I know better. It's not that I know better than to flame, but I know better than to tangle w/anybody whose avatar glares at me over their sunglasses. 8)

[E.G.Snakeman]

I didn't realize the EOV were limited edition...

[ninthdoc]

It says so on the back of the box. Of course, in my experience the more that something tries to draw attention to this status, the more it is not so (think comic book covers here).

I'd say that the description of the EOV being LEs is something that can only be judged based upon the quantity of releases that are forthcoming for HS and the availability of those same release.

[Jaz1597]

No one seems to have mentioned this yet, but one more thing that the EOVs and Nerak have in common is that they are both repaints of common units that have been made unique.

Except for the possibility of an evil Raelin, I seriously doubt Hasbro would repaint a unique unit, simply because it could potentially be very awkward. I know a lot of us repaint uniques all the time, but in terms of consistency within the official game, I worry about too many uniques looking the same. I certainly hope it's a repaint of a common, if it is a repaint at all.

My two cents...

[spacemonkeymafia]

All this talk of the mere possiblity of an evil Raelin (again) has got me pumped. I was wondering if any custom modders out there had made her yet. I saw reapers bizarro bad raelin and the mention of an evil raelin custom card but what I really wanted to see was if anyone repainted her yet. Pics would be nice.

I'm sure someone has (and I'm comtemplating anyway) and I'd like to see what they've done. I think the repaint of raelin would be the easiest to implement for hasbro (aside from the obvious do nothing or give away neraks again). The other thing about the Raelin repaint is, if it was exclusive hard to get, repainting would be a simple answer (go buy your EOV and repaint the extra Raelin)

The problem I had with Nerak is it was a common repaint, which meant that when I bought the extra Swog to repaint, I kind of wanted to keep him natural as now I could field two swogs in an army. I can't field two raelins (without some negoksa lovin) and we typically play without repeats (ie uniques were basically unique globally, not just army-wise) So me repainting Raelin is much easier (and anyone with more than one master set) Actually people wouldn't even have to ***** about buying another master set as ebay has tons of people trying to unload there extra master set uniques. And cheap, of course if an extra Raelin comes out the market could change . . .

[caravaggio]

All this talk of the mere possiblity of an evil Raelin (again) has got me pumped. I was wondering if any custom modders out there had made her yet. I saw reapers bizarro bad raelin and the mention of an evil raelin custom card but what I really wanted to see was if anyone repainted her yet. Pics would be nice.

I'm sure someone has (and I'm comtemplating anyway) and I'd like to see what they've done. I think the repaint of raelin would be the easiest to implement for hasbro (aside from the obvious do nothing or give away neraks again). The other thing about the Raelin repaint is, if it was exclusive hard to get, repainting would be a simple answer (go buy your EOV and repaint the extra Raelin)

The problem I had with Nerak is it was a common repaint, which meant that when I bought the extra Swog to repaint, I kind of wanted to keep him natural as now I could field two swogs in an army. I can't field two raelins (without some negoksa lovin) and we typically play without repeats (ie uniques were basically unique globally, not just army-wise) So me repainting Raelin is much easier (and anyone with more than one master set) Actually people wouldn't even have to ***** about buying another master set as ebay has tons of people trying to unload there extra master set uniques. And cheap, of course if an extra Raelin comes out the market could change . . .

though i'm against exclusive figures, since it seems inevitable that there will be another one i'd just as soon have it be evil raelin as anything else.

other than that i'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, dude.

[spacemonkeymafia]

"other than that i'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, dude."


Let me explain- wait there is no time, let me sum up:

Evil Raelin= good

any other common repaint= bad

oh and has anyone custom painted an Evil Raelin?

[netherspirit]

oh and has anyone custom painted an Evil Raelin?

I have seen a couple of repaints for her. I don't have any pictures but I am sure someone does...

[ninthdoc]

How about an evil Drake with a *Puh*ledge *Peh*in on his uniform. (Sorry, that was the best way I could figure out how to spit on a board message - see Animal House for the image it's supposed to inspire.) ;) :P

[Hahnarama]

GenCon figure Revealed!

You heard it here first….

EVIL MONKS!

Seriously….If I recall didn’t Hasbro post the Nerak info on their site about this time last year? I think we would have heard something by now.

[ninthdoc]

Me, too.

In other news, it would be cool if it was a squad of evil monks. I'd field them just to let them watch the standard monks kick the sams off the board.

______________________________________________________________________ _________

Hahn, mentioned to me last night that some people think we're fighting. This is not so. Think of it as the build up to a wrestling match. It's all in fun people!

[LilNewbie]

Evil Monks would be cool just like in the game Fung Shui with all the different types of monks. I've almost bought a set of extra monks to paint their robes red and make them work for Utgar.

Newb.

[Teamski]

Evil Monks would be cool just like in the game Fung Shui with all the different types of monks. I've almost bought a set of extra monks to paint their robes red and make them work for Utgar.

Newb.

How dare thee tarnish their pure image! :verymad:


-Ski

[LilNewbie]

Evil Monks would be cool just like in the game Fung Shui with all the different types of monks. I've almost bought a set of extra monks to paint their robes red and make them work for Utgar.

Newb.

How dare thee tarnish their pure image! :verymad:


-Ski

OHHH, now I'm gonna have to make the EVIL MONKS OF DOOM just for you, Ski!


:D

Newb.

[Buddy Lee]

Looking at most of the sculpts their pretty "evil" (undead) already.

Buddy Lee

[Enigma]

Personally I think it would be better for gameplay to just release a really awesome alternate sculpt of a figure we already have, like the DW9K or something, that way there wouldn't have some awesome guy that costs a hundred bucks.

[tcglkn]

Its funny how y'all all wanted Nerak and now he is more common (after Wave 10)

[Sujoah]

Ya know that the last post in this thread was three and a helf years ago...

[Sup3rS0n1c]

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[LMB]

How do you manage to find these threads, read through them though ignoring the post dates, and then proceed to post in them while adding nothing but a pointless comment? I just don't get how someone can be that oblivious. o.O

No offense intended, but... seriously.

I've been thinking the same thing. I see a thread with a title I don't recognize and so I check it out just to go WTF, 10 pages... last one in 2006 or 2007. C'mon guys keep the thread necromancy to stuff you're actually going to add meaningful content to. Life's too short to spend on long dead threads.

[Oliver Upshaw]

How do you manage to find these threads, read through them though ignoring the post dates, and then proceed to post in them while adding nothing but a pointless comment? I just don't get how someone can be that oblivious. o.O

No offense intended, but... seriously.

I've been thinking the same thing. I see a thread with a title I don't recognize and so I check it out just to go WTF, 10 pages... last one in 2006 or 2007. C'mon guys keep the thread necromancy to stuff you're actually going to add meaningful content to. Life's too short to spend on long dead threads.

I agree with the need to not dig up long dead threads for no gain. So I will add some gain. I vote that WOTC stop putting out Gen-Con Exclusives. Heroscape is supposed to be a non-collectible game. I feel that Gen-Con exclusives work against that. I am unlikely to get to Gen-Con in the next few years and paying ebay prices for them is a pain. The collector in me won't let them go though so pay the price I do. Except for Hawthorne, $100 for a figure that might revolt on you, no thanks. Of course now with Wave 10 I have him. When I was playing Star Fleet Battles I did go to Origins in 1991 and 1993 to play in the Fleet Captains Tournament. The specials there were the games that would be released in a few weeks but by being at the Con you could buy them early. If you did not make it to the Con you would still have easy access to the games a few weeks later at your FLGS. Now if WOTC wants to start putting the Gen-Con Exclusives out again I would be okay with that if they would allow players who did not make it to Gen-Con to purchase them straight though them for say $10. If you make it to the Con you get it for free. I also have no problem with a store exclusive as they would be more widely released as thus easier to obtain.

[rednax]

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[Sup3rS0n1c]

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[Biggie]

SHUTTY !!!

[Superm9]

SHUTTY !!!
Was that really necessary? :shock:

[Sup3rS0n1c]

SHUTTY !!!
Was that really necessary? :shock:
This thread's necro wasn't in the first place.

Case closed, discussion closed, everyone shut up, please.

[southwest ninja]

But I don't like shutting up. I prefer to ramble on and on. Especially after I get a lot of drinks in me!