The Book of X Marks The Spot Map

[quozl]

A C3G Competitive Map

http://www.heroscapers.com/downloads//xmarksthespot_Kw3.jpg

Download PDF File Here (http://c3ggames.com/C3G/released/maps/C3G-MAP_XMarksSpot.pdf)

Required Sets: 2 Marvel™ Master Sets, 1 Battle for the Underdark™ Master Set, and 1 Fortress of the Archkyrie™

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Bio - The intersection of Lumber and Vine Avenues doesn’t see much traffic other than the drug kind since the gangs took over. A bloody gang war that held the city in a grip of terror for a harrowing fifteen months left nothing behind but two warehouse ruins from a once bustling business district and a bitter grudge between gang factions that lingers to this day. The local police know that it will only be a matter of time before violence erupts once again.

[quozl]

I've been playing around with street scenes and came up with this.

Any ideas for improvements?

[IAmBatman]

Looks cool. Would this be a competitive one?

[quozl]

Not sure yet but probably.

[tcglkn]

I would love if this was competitive! It looks great and I have all the stuff to build it. :thumbsup:

[quozl]

I would love if this was competitive! It looks great and I have all the stuff to build it. :thumbsup:

I would love it if you did and let me know what could be improved.

[tcglkn]

I would love if this was competitive! It looks great and I have all the stuff to build it. :thumbsup:

I would love it if you did and let me know what could be improved.

I would, but I need to build a map and run a playtest. :( I'll try to throw it together after that though. :up:

[Taeblewalker]

It sort of reminds me of the abandoned missile silo map. It needs something a little extra. Great symmetry and feng sui, though!

[Griffin]

Looks great! :D:up:

[tcglkn]

Hey, I don't have virtual scape so can you make me a quick PDF of the build instructions?

[quozl]

Hey, I don't have virtual scape so can you make me a quick PDF of the build instructions?

OK, I made a PDF and changed the download link to that. I'm glad I did! I found some errors in the Virtualscape file and fixed them.

[quozl]

Played a game today and I loved hiding under the overhang. However, I think the Wind glyph in the middle should be changed to Thorian to get more figures into the middle of the map.

[tcglkn]

Played a game today and I loved hiding under the overhang. However, I think the Wind glyph in the middle should be changed to Thorian to get more figures into the middle of the map.

Why not use a C3G Glyph like the Glyph of Team Up? :confused:

[Griffin]

Are you designating a glyph from Valhalla?

First off why do you need to designate a glyph, and secondly, why the heck wouldn't you use one of our own?

[quozl]

I designated one in Crash Landing too. Which C3G glyph do you suggest?

[tcglkn]

I designated one in Crash Landing too. Which C3G glyph do you suggest?

I think the Glyph of Team Up would be a ton of fun. And keep the action close to the center.

[quozl]

Looking through the released C3G glyphs, I agree that Team Up is the best bet.

[Taeblewalker]

I also like Team Up.

[tcglkn]

I'm hoping to build this cause it looks nice, but it may be a couple of days. I just had to drop a playtest cause I had a lot of essays dumped on me today.

[Griffin]

Team up. :up:

[Hidicul]

I just grabbed the build instructions, so I'll get this built tonight or tommorrow and report back on it.

[tcglkn]

I'm about to take a break from my essays and build this really quick.

[tcglkn]

Well I have it up. Great looking map. Nothing seemed to be wrong with it. Although I dislike not having ladders fully attached but thats just a personal thing.

[Griffin]

Why do the ladders break at the warehouse ruin? The way they are on that side, figure will NOT be able to climb on the warehouse or the top of the ladder. They can't pass through the floor of it, and figures must have something to actually "climb" on to gain elevation, they can't just count spaces in the air as they move up.

[Hahma]

Why do the ladders break at the warehouse ruin? The way they are on that side, figure will NOT be able to climb on the warehouse or the top of the ladder. They can't pass through the floor of it, and figures must have something to actually "climb" on to gain elevation, they can't just count spaces in the air as they move up.

Oh come on Griff, where there's a will there's a way. :D

Nice looking map Quozl, but maybe needs better ladder positioning.

[quozl]

Huh? Sorry, not getting the ladder problem. You climb up to the building and then can climb down to the Marvel warehouse.

[tcglkn]

The ladders are legally placed on the castle, they are just loose hanging from a wall walk tile instead of being fully attached to a wall piece like I prefer.

[Hahma]

I don't know, it just looked like it wasn't connected at the top on the one side. It looked like it was a little short. Maybe it's just they way I'm seeing it though. :shrug:

[tcglkn]

Oh well I just saw where they went and made them touch the ground. Quozl should check that out though.

[Hidicul]

OK I got this built and took some pics, but forsome reason they break when I add them in. I'll try the hard way in a minute, but I'll give you the break down now. When I built the map I saw 1 problem, the two ladders on the backside didn't go all the way down to the hex below it. I add a raod piece under the single concrete piece that the ladder should of reached and it solved the problem, and still made the map match. If I can't get any other pics up, I hope I can get those two up.

[Hidicul]

Here's the pic from before I added the extra road hex


http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/hidicul/101_0149.jpg


http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/hidicul/101_0151.jpg

OK here is a shot after adding the extra road piece. I double checked the ladder rules and it was placed incorrectly before.



Here are the other pics, I forgot to use thedirect link code for this :oops:

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/hidicul/101_0148.jpg

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/hidicul/101_0150.jpg

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/hidicul/101_0155.jpg



Overall a very nice map, although I counted to the Glyph in the middle and the closest Glyph to each start zone, and atleast Hal can hit those Glyphs in one OM. From each start zone, the two closest Glyphs are 9 spaces away, I don't know if that's a problem, but I figured I would bring it up.

[Griffin]

OK, after seeing Tickles pics, thanks tickle, I can see that I was confused earlier on how the ladders ran up the building. I didn't know they went to the top, I thought they were missing a rung in the middle for the warehouse to go through the ladder itself. But that concern was dismissed upon seeing tickle's pics.

Also, good fixes tickle, and I wonder if it would just be OK to have one glyph in the center of town and let that be it.

[IAmBatman]

You mean Hidicul, right? :-P

[Hahma]

Yeah, I guess I saw the same thing Griff saw before. But upon seeing Hidicul's pics, I can see that the virtualscape image wasn't the best.

Nice fix Hidicul. :D

[tcglkn]

:duh: I didn't even think to take pictures to show you what I meant.

[Hahma]

:duh: I didn't even think to take pictures to show you what I meant.


Yeah, with maps, pictures can make a huge difference. But you are kicking arse around here and are all over the place contributing, so you can't remember or think of everything. :D

[tcglkn]

:duh: I didn't even think to take pictures to show you what I meant.


Yeah, with maps, pictures can make a huge difference. But you are kicking arse around here and are all over the place contributing, so you can't remember or think of everything. :D

This is the first time I've helped with a map, I'll remember that for the future. 8)

[davidlhsl]

There is precedent for a ladder not reaching to the hex below: Crime Alley. It was actually thematic for that map, because that's how fire escapes tend to look. When I asked A3n about it, he said that you simply counted height up the building to the first ladder position.

[Margloth]

Just thought I'd chime in with some support...

I liked the idea behind the map but was concerned it was a little "boring"... but seeing pictures of the actual map... love it! Simple and eyecatching at the same time, and beginner friendly, I think. Be a great map to introduce some n00bs to
C3G customs on! :thumbsup:

[tcglkn]

I'm hoping this will be a competitive map that I can playtest on. It looks great and will probably be a blast to use (Esp with the Glyph of Team Up in the center.)

[quozl]

Thanks for the building and the pics, guys!

As for the ladders, they're supposed to be only 5 rungs high and not reach all the way to the top. That's why there is two layers of castle toppers. The ladders reach the bottom layer, not the top. There's also supposed to be one ladder rung from the building to the Marvel warehouse ruin.

As for Hal reaching the glyph in one move, I don't know what to do. Hal breaks so many maps.

As for the glyphs, I agree with you Griffin and in the instructions on the front page I said to remove all the glyhps and just use Team-Up in the middle.

[tcglkn]

As for the ladders, they're supposed to be only 5 rungs high and not reach all the way to the top. That's why there is two layers of castle toppers. The ladders reach the bottom layer, not the top. There's also supposed to be one ladder rung from the building to the Marvel warehouse ruin.

Got it, I was kinda rushed when I built it but I'll fix that. :thumbsup:


As for the glyphs, I agree with you Griffin and in the instructions on the front page I said to remove all the glyhps and just use Team-Up in the middle.

:woot: I've been meaning to use that Glyph for a while now.

[Griffin]

Can't the ladders go from the bottom to the top as normal?

[quozl]

Can't the ladders go from the bottom to the top as normal?

They do, with an extra layer of castle topper on top of that.

[tcglkn]

I'll take some pictures in a little bit. 8)

[tcglkn]

Pictures are up:

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/tcglkn/C3G%20Art%20and%20Stuff/IMG_1948.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/tcglkn/C3G%20Art%20and%20Stuff/IMG_1949.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/tcglkn/C3G%20Art%20and%20Stuff/IMG_1950.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/tcglkn/C3G%20Art%20and%20Stuff/IMG_1951.jpg

Looks great quozl! Just a quick suggestion on the Glyphs, why not put two random C3G Equipment Glyphs where the Attack Glyphs were? :shrug:

EDIT: Note on the first picture, the ladder isn't touching the ruin, that was because my tower was slightly off the ground, I pushed it down it and it looks great.

[quozl]

Thanks tickle! That's exactly how the ladders are supposed to be.

As for not replacing the Attack glyphs, after playing a game, I decided they weren't necessary. Being in the overhang area with the shadow tiles has enough incentive already.

[tcglkn]

Thanks tickle! That's exactly how the ladders are supposed to be.

As for not replacing the Attack glyphs, after playing a game, I decided they weren't necessary. Being in the overhang area with the shadow tiles has enough incentive already.

No problem. I'm really digging the fun simplicity of this map. I'm hoping to play a game with my dad on it either tonight or tomorrow.

[Griffin]

Thanks tickle! That's exactly how the ladders are supposed to be.

As for not replacing the Attack glyphs, after playing a game, I decided they weren't necessary. Being in the overhang area with the shadow tiles has enough incentive already.
Can we put a single tile under those short ladders so that they reach the top flush?

[quozl]

I could but I think it looks lame and I'd rather have figures not have to go up a 2-move step to reach the ladder. I prefer them to have to make a 2-move step to get to the roof.

[tcglkn]

I'm with quozl, I'm fine with it the way it is.

[Griffin]

I think a small step to reach a ladder actually looks cool, but a ladder that doesn't reach the top looks lame to me. :reapershrug:

[IAmBatman]

I'm hoping this will be a competitive map that I can playtest on. It looks great and will probably be a blast to use (Esp with the Glyph of Team Up in the center.)

Yeah, I definitely want to see more C3G competitive maps. Like everything else C3G, I'm transitioning into using our stuff exclusively when playtesting. :-)
As for the Hal and glyph issue, do you have any thought of maybe putting two glyphs in the middlish area of the map to give both sides a shot at an early grab?

[tcglkn]

Yeah, I definitely want to see more C3G competitive maps. Like everything else C3G, I'm transitioning into using our stuff exclusively when playtesting. :-)

That's where most of my play is, plus I play with my dad some but I usually just leave up my playtesting map when facing him.

[quozl]

As for the Hal and glyph issue, do you have any thought of maybe putting two glyphs in the middlish area of the map to give both sides a shot at an early grab?

I like that idea! Move the glyph two hexes closer to the start zone and then mirror that placement with the other Team-Up glyph.

[tcglkn]

As for the Hal and glyph issue, do you have any thought of maybe putting two glyphs in the middlish area of the map to give both sides a shot at an early grab?

I like that idea! Move the glyph two hexes closer to the start zone and then mirror that placement with the other Team-Up glyph.

What happens if you hold 2 Glyphs of Team Up at once though?

[quozl]

As for the Hal and glyph issue, do you have any thought of maybe putting two glyphs in the middlish area of the map to give both sides a shot at an early grab?

I like that idea! Move the glyph two hexes closer to the start zone and then mirror that placement with the other Team-Up glyph.

What happens if you hold 2 Glyphs of Team Up at once though?

You win the game. :twisted:

[Taeblewalker]

You create a wormhole, like the one Green Goblin used in the Neogenesis storyline, and that Spider-Carnage jumped into when Uncle Ben shamed him into self-destruct.

[quozl]

Or you could just :rtfc:

:)

[Taeblewalker]

Or you could just :rtfc:

:)

Now what kind of Klein bottle do you get from that?

[tcglkn]

I did, what happens if you reveal an OM on a card within 8 spaces of two Glyphs of Team Up? Do you get 2 extra turns? Should we avoid putting these within 8 spaces of each other.

[quozl]

I did, what happens if you reveal an OM on a card within 8 spaces of two Glyphs of Team Up? Do you get 2 extra turns? Should we avoid putting these within 8 spaces of each other.

Yes, since the wording refers to "this glyph". It's just like the wording on the Sentinels and Sinestro Corps Soldiers before they were changed.

And no, I wouldn't change it unless playtesting shows it's too crazy. Sounds fun to me.

[IAmBatman]

You create a wormhole, like the one Green Goblin used in the Neogenesis storyline, and that Spider-Carnage jumped into when Uncle Ben shamed him into self-destruct.

That's more or less what I was thinking ... I already think that Professor X kind of "breaks" the Team Up Glyph already ... I'd be really scared to see two on the same map!!

[quozl]

I'm just not seeing any other C3G glyphs that are tempting enough to go down in the street rather than get up on height.

[Hidicul]

Some how I missed that one ladder going to the warehouse. I really hate how VS handels the ladders. As for the whole ladder reaching the top and bottom, I just figured that I would bring it to your attention in case you just happened to miss it. David, as for Crime Ally, I know there was precident, but it had been disscused in the thread and at the time there was no mention here of them not following the "rules". I think I would rather see a ladder reach the top instead of the bottom myself becuase we are generally using city style maps and so when we use ladders, I automatically think of them as fire escapes. I really hope that this becomes a competitive map, I'd love to do some playtesting on it.

[IAmBatman]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.

[quozl]

Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.

Any permanent glyphs or are they just equipment glyphs?

[Hidicul]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.
I know them, I know them, but I'm not telling :p Those were back when I was able to grab almost every playtest that hit the thread, I miss those days, stupid non working computer at home :evil:

[IAmBatman]

Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.

Any permanent glyphs or are they just equipment glyphs?

You'll have to wait and see. ;-)

[Lord Pyre]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.
I know them, I know them, but I'm not telling :p Those were back when I was able to grab almost every playtest that hit the thread, I miss those days, stupid non working computer at home :evil:

I don't miss those days. :p

[Hidicul]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.
I know them, I know them, but I'm not telling :p Those were back when I was able to grab almost every playtest that hit the thread, I miss those days, stupid non working computer at home :evil:

I don't miss those days. :p
I think it's only me and the Heros that miss those days. All of you Allies and Sidekicks weren't to happy to log on first thing in the morning and see me on my second playtest of the day;)

[quozl]

Maybe I'll just use two attack glyphs then.

[IAmBatman]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.
I know them, I know them, but I'm not telling :p Those were back when I was able to grab almost every playtest that hit the thread, I miss those days, stupid non working computer at home :evil:

I don't miss those days. :p
I think it's only me and the Heros that miss those days. All of you Allies and Sidekicks weren't to happy to log on first thing in the morning and see me on my second playtest of the day;)

Hopefully this spring we'll be revising some things and getting more playtests out to people more quickly (with more opportunities to playtest). We keep growing (yay) and we need to be able to adjust to account for additional resources coming in.

[Hidicul]

Maybe I'll just use two attack glyphs then.
I like the idea of having a Team-up Glyph. Why not place an attack Glyph in the middle and place a Team-up Glyph off to the side somewhere that will take at least to OMs to reach? That would draw action to the middle as well as to the side and high areas. It would cause fighting on three different fronts.

[Hidicul]

Well if one of them is Team Up the other one could be a decoy/trap like Joker Venom ... Temporal Displacement wouldn't be bad either (and you could use it to free up that Team Up Glyph). :-)
Really, you should almost wait until the Fan Four set comes out (February?) so that you can see all the great glyphs there.
I know them, I know them, but I'm not telling :p Those were back when I was able to grab almost every playtest that hit the thread, I miss those days, stupid non working computer at home :evil:

I don't miss those days. :p
I think it's only me and the Heros that miss those days. All of you Allies and Sidekicks weren't to happy to log on first thing in the morning and see me on my second playtest of the day;)

Hopefully this spring we'll be revising some things and getting more playtests out to people more quickly (with more opportunities to playtest). We keep growing (yay) and we need to be able to adjust to account for additional resources coming in.
I saw Griff say something along those lines a few days ago as well as a new way to track points and passes.

[quozl]

The problem is there's nowhere (on the entire half of the map) that Hal can't reach in one OM.

As a map builder, I hate Hal. :evil:

[IAmBatman]

The problem is there's nowhere (on the entire half of the map) that Hal can't reach in one OM.

As a map builder, I hate Hal. :evil:

Which is why you put out two glyphs (face down). Hal can only reach them one at a time. Barry should be able to reach most places in one turn that Hal can as well.

[tcglkn]

I like just having one Glyph of Team Up in the center. Make the teams fight for it, thats a pretty strong Glyph. :shrug:

[IAmBatman]

It is a pretty strong glyph ... which is why one player getting it earlier and the other getting nothing might end up with one player railroading the other one pretty easily. Hal can hold the glyph for a couple of rounds easily and in that time the team up aspect of it will help his allies run over the competition.

[Hahma]

The problem is there's nowhere (on the entire half of the map) that Hal can't reach in one OM.

As a map builder, I hate Hal. :evil:

So let Hal get the glyph and then attack him. Force him to burn a Battery Marker with his Shield or roll defense and risk taking wounds and losing the glyph. If one team has a 350 point figure, the other team can have some heavy hitters too. The other team can have Wonder Woman and as soon as Hal dashes for the glyph, she can go and Lasso him and beat the snot out of him.

What about Hulk? He's got a pretty good leap to get around too.

Even if you're just talking about Hals treat range, with all BM' on his card, he still only has a range of 5 and easily in reach of an opponent.

Hal's good, but when he chooses not to burn a BM against a 3 skull attack and whiffs his defense roll, it can get ugly. Also, once he burns the BMs, he gets weaker and weaker, so once you force him to burn a couple, he's not quite the threat he was before.

[IAmBatman]

I really think we should consider retconning the Team Up Glyph, personally. :-P I think it was fine with just the figs in the World's Finest Set, but I really do think units like Prof X break it.

[quozl]

Let's try two Superspeed glyphs in the middle of the road, each 2 spaces from the center.

[IAmBatman]

Good fix, IMO.

[tcglkn]

I really think we should consider retconning the Team Up Glyph, personally. :-P I think it was fine with just the figs in the World's Finest Set, but I really do think units like Prof X break it.

I think it can be fixed, I made a suggestion in the Glyph's Thread.

[tcglkn]

OK so should I wait on the Heroes to pass their descision on the Glyph of Team Up before I post a battle report?

[quozl]

No way! Especially if you ran it with Griff's version of Team-Up. That way we can see how the map plays and his version of the glyph plays.

P.S. Thanks for helping test this map out!

[tcglkn]

No problem. I'll use Griff's version and post a report. I'll probably play my dad tonight. I wanna test out Gordon too.

[Griffin]

Good call guys. :up:

Btw, the heroes are voting on the change to that glyph and so far it is unanimous to change it with what we suggested. :up:

[Hahma]

Go team :cheer::nether:

[tcglkn]

The sad part is I just printed the card for that Glyph the other day. I forgot a few other cards so I'm gonna need to reprint anyways. I forgot Anti-Monitor. :shock:

Expect a battle report for this map either tonight or tomorrow night.

[IAmBatman]

The eventual version we decided to roll with is a tad differently worded than Griff's but I believe it's mechanically the same. And it's passed, it just needs the Art Department to update the card.

[quozl]

The eventual version we decided to roll with is a tad differently worded than Griff's but I believe it's mechanically the same. And it's passed, it just needs the Art Department to update the card.

Can you PM tickle the text so he can playtest it tonight?

[IAmBatman]

It's not a secret:

After revealing an Order Marker on the card of the Unique Hero occupying this glyph, before taking a turn with that Unique Hero or using any other special powers on any Army Card or Glyph, you may first take a turn with any Unique Hero you control within 8 clear sight spaces of the figure occupying this glyph.

[tcglkn]

I'm digging that. :thumbsup: Good job guys.

[IAmBatman]

Yep - Griff and Necro get most of the credit there. :-)

[Taeblewalker]

I'll be sure that the Long Island crew is aware of this - we are planning a C3G game day later this month.

[IAmBatman]

It's a shame I'm going out of town for the break - that almost might've been worth traveling for. :-)

[Taeblewalker]

It's going to be on Sunday the 19th.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah - I'm leaving town on like the 16th.
Maybe I ought to try having a C3G get-together this summer or something now that I don't have the whole marriage and honeymoon thing keeping me busy. :-)

[tcglkn]

Maybe I ought to try having a C3G get-together this summer or something now that I don't have the whole marriage and honeymoon thing keeping me busy. :-)

Come down to NC and I'll be there. I'll try very hard to be there regardless but it'll be much easier for me to attend if its down here. (Of course everyone probably wants it near them.)

[Griffin]

I definitely plan on having a C3G blowout next year. I want to coordinate it with tickle and quozl, as you two guys are the closet to Raleigh, where there are a lot of scapers and C3G fans.

[tcglkn]

Sounds like fun. I'd love to meet you and battle you.

Anyways back on topic, I'm about to run a battle on this map with the updated Team Up Glyph. Armies are:
Team Vigilante:
5th Precinct Beat Cops x5
Alfred Pennyworth
Commissioner Gordon
Batman
and Robin
795 points

Team Crime:
Creeper
Street Thugs x2
Penguin
Two Face
Joker
and Riddler
755 points

[Griffin]

Team Vigilante is an A+ army, my money is on them. :D:up:

[tcglkn]

Team Vigilante is an A+ army, my money is on them. :D:up:

They are dominating right now, with only two wounds on Batman who is holding the Team Up Glyph and fighting Creeper. Creeper has 1 marker and 4 wounds and 1 squad of Thugs are out. Back to the battle now. I'll see how it plays out. Gordon is pretty fun. I've had a couple chances to move Batman but I declined due to him holding the bonding glyph and allowing Gordon to get up on one of the buildings.

[Griffin]

With two wounds on Batman, you better extract him ASAP with Alfred!

[tcglkn]

With two wounds on Batman, you better extract him ASAP with Alfred!

He's fine, he's got a couple cops around him. 8)

[tcglkn]

Well, I finished up the test. Team Vigilante won with Robin dead, Batman with 2 wounds and 2 squads of Cops dead. I really thought Gordon would be useless, but he was a ton of fun with the Team Up Glyph, helping move the cops to height.

Well enough about the armies, you guys want to hear about the map right? This was a great map. Pretty simple, but incredibly fun. I was worried that the sides of the roads wouldn't get used but they did. I think I used just about everywhere on the map. And the Glyph of Team Up was very balancing, keeping the action focused on the street. I think Green Arrow would be fun on this map. :twisted:

[Griffin]

The thing I like most about this map is how urban it looks, and how easy it will be to set up some DOs once we have them.

[tcglkn]

The thing I like most about this map is how urban it looks, and how easy it will be to set up some DOs once we have them.

:word: ;) This is a great looking map and its a simple build.

[Hahma]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tcglkn again.Great job with the test Tickle. :thumbsup:

I agree, this could be a very fun map and I can bust out some Thugs again. :D

[tcglkn]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tcglkn again.Great job with the test Tickle. :thumbsup:

I agree, this could be a very fun map and I can bust out some Thugs again. :D

Thugs were pretty good on this map, the cops just cleaned the streets. 8)

[quozl]

Sounds good! Should we be ready to finalize this map then with the revised Team-Up glyph being the only glyph and located in the middle of the street?

[Griffin]

Sounds good to me. I think we need a PDF, build it from those instructions, then finalize it good to go.

[quozl]

I sent a PM to A3n.

[quozl]

Any of our new art dept. members want to take a shot at this?

It seems A3n is too busy.

[A3n]

Any of our new art dept. members want to take a shot at this?

It seems A3n is too busy.

Actually I am doing it as we speak :neener:

[quozl]

Dude! You could have told me!

[tcglkn]

Still have this map built. It's one of the best ones in the C3G. Good job quozl.

[quozl]

Thanks, tickle. I tried to make the best competitive map I could make using only a few sets that I thought most C3G members would have. I'm glad it turned out so well.

And thanks to you and the rest of C3G for helping make this map even better with the glyph issues that we worked through! That's what makes a good design great and that's why I appreciate the C3G so much!

[IAmBatman]

:word: Nice work here, buys.
And more small, competitive maps, are definitely something I love as a playtester.

[A3n]

Hey Quozl (& other C3G map makers), check out this post (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1286927&postcount=674)for C3G glyphs in your future maps.

Cheers

[IAmBatman]

Great idea - nice work on that, A3n! :-)

[A3n]

Sorry it took so long but here (http://www.hiddendragon.com/hs_customs/C3G/released/maps/C3G_XMarksSpot.pdf) it is.

Now, I am not liking that bio very much though, it doesn't really create any atmosphere or even sound like a place a battle should be held.

Cheers

[quozl]

Thanks! That looks perfect!

I agree about the bio though. I'm not the best at writing them.

Anyone want to try punching it up?

Also we need someone to build the map from the PDF. I can do it but it's best if someone who has never built it before does it.

Thanks!

[davidlhsl]

I'll start on it now! :)

[tcglkn]

I'll start on it now! :)

The bio or the build? :p

[davidlhsl]

I'll start on it now! :)

The bio or the build? :p

The build. I'm pretty sure you don't want me working my Burt's Beer references in your map bios. :lol:

[quozl]

I'll start on it now! :)

The bio or the build? :p

The build. I'm pretty sure you don't want me working my Burt's Beer references in your map bios. :lol:

I think you'd be wrong about that. I'd be thrilled if you did a bio!

[davidlhsl]

On level 2 and just noticed one issue. There are 10 1-hex concrete tiles used on levels 1 & 2 (2 on level 1 and 8 on level 2). There are only 8 1-hex concrete tiles in 2 Marvel Sets. Perhaps the level 1 hexes are supposed to be 1-hex dungeon hexes.

Edit: Whoops - see next post. I see the mistake I made.

[davidlhsl]

Never mind... I see the problem... the hexes on Level 1 that looked like concrete are supposed to be road hexes (from the Fortress set).

Sorry about that, I will now continue...

[quozl]

The two on level 1 are supposed to be castle toppers.

[davidlhsl]

The two on level 1 are supposed to be castle toppers.

Yeah, I call them "roads." I made a similar comment on Savage Land where I get confused between certain tiles (concrete/road, sand/swamp water, asphalt/rock). I had to consult the VS file to catch my mistake.

Anyhoo, I finished the build, and it looks great. Yes, I did use asphalt instead of rock this time (the mistake I made with Rocket Launching Platform that I went back and corrected). I'll keep this on the table so I can play a battle on this sometime later.

[tcglkn]

I'll keep this on the table so I can play a battle on this sometime later.

I've had it on my table for a couple of weeks. It's a great map. (Gosh I can't say that enough)

[davidlhsl]

I’ll take a stab at a bio:

The intersection of Lumber and Vine Avenues doesn’t see much traffic other than the drug kind since the gangs took over. A bloody gang war that held the city in a grip of terror for a harrowing fifteen months left nothing behind but two warehouse ruins from a once bustling business district and a bitter grudge between gang factions that lingers to this day. The local police know that it will only be a matter of time before violence erupts once again.

[quozl]

Excellent build and bio! A3n, can you update the bio?

I propose this map finalized as a C3G competitive map.

[A3n]

I’ll take a stab at a bio:

The intersection of Lumber and Vine Avenues doesn’t see much traffic other than the drug kind since the gangs took over. A bloody gang war that held the city in a grip of terror for a harrowing fifteen months left nothing behind but two warehouse ruins from a once bustling business district and a bitter grudge between gang factions that lingers to this day. The local police know that it will only be a matter of time before violence erupts once again.
Brilliant, much better, exactly what I would expect to read there. :up:
Excellent build and bio! A3n, can you update the bio?

Done.

I propose this map finalized as a C3G competitive map.

Yea

[davidlhsl]

Here's a pic. If I made any errors, let me know and I'll correct.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p288/davidlhsl/Map%20building/XMarkstheSpot.jpg

[quozl]

Looks just right, David. Thanks again!

[johnny139]

I don't see any real problems with it. Yea.

[Griffin]

Let me look it over. :D

[Griffin]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders, but yea for the heck of it. I do love the map though and I can't wait to put my fire hydrants and lights on it that I just got in the mail today. :D;)

[quozl]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders, but yea for the heck of it. I do love the map though and I can't wait to put my fire hydrants and lights on it that I just got in the mail today. :D;)

That was the first thing me and my daughter did when it was done! 8)

[Lord Pyre]

Heh, a map I can actually build! ;)

Looks great, can't wait to play on it! :D

[Lord Pyre]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders, but yea for the heck of it. I do love the map though and I can't wait to put my fire hydrants and lights on it that I just got in the mail today. :D;)

Where were those from again? I was searching for that topic, but couldn't find it...

[quozl]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders, but yea for the heck of it. I do love the map though and I can't wait to put my fire hydrants and lights on it that I just got in the mail today. :D;)

Where were those from again? I was searching for that topic, but couldn't find it...

Dollar Tree, if you can still find them.

Now we just need a vote from Taeblewalker.

[davidlhsl]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders,

I don't think this was ever answered, but I just realize after waking up why the ladders don't reach up that one extra space to the top: the map already uses the 22 ladder rungs from one Fortress set. Adding the ladder rungs at the 4 different spots to reach the top would require a second set.

Edit: Another observation: If you add another castle set to the build, you could set up a tall building on one end (where one start zone occupies) and create a Times Square map!

[Griffin]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders,

I don't think this was ever answered, but I just realize after waking up why the ladders don't reach up that one extra space to the top: the map already uses the 22 ladder rungs from one Fortress set. Adding the ladder rungs at the 4 different spots to reach the top would require a second set.

Edit: Another observation: If you add another castle set to the build, you could set up a tall building on one end (where one start zone occupies) and create a Times Square map!
I am not interested in adding another castle set, but I was very interested in seeing those ladders elevated by placing a single hex underneath them. That would have brought the ladders to the top of the building.

[davidlhsl]

I am not interested in adding another castle set, but I was very interested in seeing those ladders elevated by placing a single hex underneath them. That would have brought the ladders to the top of the building.

Looking at my pictures (I have more than one on my hard drive that I took and only posted one), you would actually have to place those hexes in four positions. All of the single hex asphalt tiles have already been used, and any other type of hex would ruin the aesthetic. One possible option would be to lose one of the ladders on each warehouse.

Of course, it's a moot point at this stage; but I don't think the fix would have been that simple.

[davidlhsl]

Times Square

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p288/davidlhsl/Map%20building/TimesSquare.jpg

[quozl]

Times Square

Cool!

[IAmBatman]

I see the spot where I got a free vanilla Coke in 2002! :-P

[quozl]

Looks like this passes! Thanks everyone!

[tcglkn]

Love it! Great job quozl. :thumbsup:

[Taeblewalker]

Yea, I don't really like the incompleted ladders, but yea for the heck of it. I do love the map though and I can't wait to put my fire hydrants and lights on it that I just got in the mail today. :D;)

Where were those from again? I was searching for that topic, but couldn't find it...

Dollar Tree, if you can still find them.

Now we just need a vote from Taeblewalker.

I know it's late, but Yea!

[Hahma]

Just got done building this map, looks great! Nice job team :thumbsup:

[IAmBatman]

Man, there's no quit in ya. :-P You polish off the Kree and get on to this right away! :lol:

[Hahma]

Well, I finished the Kree last night. Was up 'til midnight or so messing around. Woke up before 5 this morning and figured I'd make this map. I've had Martian Warzone up for so long, I finally got around to replace it with this as my second testing map I can leave up all the time. My other one is Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh BOV map. I've been wanting to get some Thugs/Crimelords back in action but wanted to have a map with Asphalt and Concrete.

I have other stuff to do during the day, so if I don't do this stuff early, it won't get done for awhile. :D

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I probably ought to change out Ravaged Road (which I've had up since November or before) for something else now that I have a bit of a playtesting lull.

[tcglkn]

This is one of my favorite maps. I have it built on my gaming table right now.

[Hahma]

I'm fortunate to be able to have 3 maps built at a time. I have a baker's rack in my office/scape haven and I keep all my terrain and figures on there. I have 3 pieces of drywall that are small enough to put on the bakers rack, but big enough to build competitive maps. So I keep 2 maps on the rack and 1 on my gaming table in my office at all times.

I like Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh a lot as it has just about everything in a non-terrain specific map. Has trees and ruins for LOS blockers, water, lots of variable height that is accessible to most units easily enough. So I keep that one built all the time.

I also have Hydra Base Gehenna built and at some point will do some testing of the map.

My third option is usually one that is terrain specific. I haven't had an urban terrain map up for awhile and want to get back to that for testing and using Criminal faction more.

[davidlhsl]

SHIELD Agents make street level a brutal Kill Box zone. I had fun playing this map, and hated to take it down.

[Griffin]

I think this C3G map above all others is screaming for some urban DOs and terrain.

[tcglkn]

I've taken over our ping pong table and keep 3 maps built at once.

Even have enough room for all my figs on the far end. :D

[Hidicul]

I think this C3G map above all others is screaming for some urban DOs and terrain.
Hey I'm slaving away at that right now Griff. Cut me some slack and I'll get them up at some point.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

The PDF isn't working for me.

[A3n]

The PDF isn't working for me.

Link updated to new server. :up:

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Link is still not working.

[A3n]

Link is still not working.

Sorry, got the file name wrong. Try now.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

It works now, thanks.