C3V Public Announcements - VYDAR'S BETRAYAL BEGINS!

[1Mmirg]

awesomeunleashed, I think a lot of people will travel in the summer. If you'll be gone for a month, well, that's an issue. Otherwise, it's up to you and what you think makes sense and what you think you can/will do.

Keep playtesting and you'll be on this list again, btw.

[awesomeunleashed]

awesomeunleashed, I think a lot of people will travel in the summer. If you'll be gone for a month, well, that's an issue. Otherwise, it's up to you and what you think makes sense and what you think you can/will do.

Keep playtesting and you'll be on this list again, btw.

Alright, then take me off. Maybe next time. :)

[personwholives]

I hardly have time to work on what I have to get done right now. I'm afraid you'll want to strike my name from the list this time as well.

I should be around for the next one, though, and will hopefully have had some time to playtest between now and then, too.

[capsocrates]

Some of you noticed that we didn't do a Public Access Poll last month. It wasn't an oversight. Rather, we have voted to extend Public Access to 3 (instead of 2) months. To make that work, we pushed off that last poll and from here on out we'll do a Poll every 45 days. Giving each PAM 90 days of access to the Sanctum, a bit more time to work your magic and leave your imprint on the C3V.

I think this will be a win-win for everyone involved.

--

And with that announcement, here are the 8 Scapers nominated for Public Access for June-Aug:

awesomeunleashed
Capsocrates
Infectedsloth
personwholives
Rocktroll
Son of Arathorn
TnT2
Typhon2222If you are on this list, please let us know if you accept the nomination or need to be removed from the list.

I expect to put up the Poll tomorrow, assuming everything works right.

I accept! Thank you for the nomination. I have a lot of ideas I've been keeping under wraps in hopes of being nominated--so you should vote for me. ;)

I will also be busy here and there over the summer, but never for more than a week, and never so much that I won't be able to check in.

[infectedsloth]

Once again thanks for the nomination, it truly is an honor.

[ZBeeblebrox]

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There's no link to this one (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1585504&postcount=583), actually.

Fixed, sorry about that :oops:

[TnT2]

It is an honor to be nominated again. Though this is just a trick to get my play test reports for Bramcephys.... Isn't it? (he was almost as much fun as his size!!)


Some of you noticed that we didn't do a Public Access Poll last month. It wasn't an oversight. Rather, we have voted to extend Public Access to 3 (instead of 2) months. To make that work, we pushed off that last poll and from here on out we'll do a Poll every 45 days. Giving each PAM 90 days of access to the Sanctum, a bit more time to work your magic and leave your imprint on the C3V.

I think this will be a win-win for everyone involved.

--

And with that announcement, here are the 8 Scapers nominated for Public Access for June-Aug:

awesomeunleashed
Capsocrates
Infectedsloth
personwholives
Rocktroll
Son of Arathorn
TnT2
Typhon2222

If you are on this list, please let us know if you accept the nomination or need to be removed from the list.

I expect to put up the Poll tomorrow, assuming everything works right.

[1Mmirg]

Excellent.

The poll (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=41474) is now up and available. Vote now!

[personwholives]

Hrm, it's June. Still no new figures. Where are they? You got us all distracted for two days with that public access poll (don't think I didn't notice the timing. That was purely to distract us from the fact that the new guys aren't ready yet. It has nothing to do with it being the end of the month). But I remembered! New wave! New wave! New wave! New wave!

(P.S. Always in jest, no offense, etc, etc)

[ZBeeblebrox]

D-DAY

[capsocrates]

D-DAY

Does that mean today is D-Day? Or you're releasing on the 6th?

[Son of Arathorn]

D-DAY

No way. Only 4 more days. Whoooooo! :woot:

[Hive Lord 1233]

:drunk:

[ZBeeblebrox]

The hint has been in my sig this week...jeez you guys are slow :razz:

[capsocrates]

The hint has been in my sig this week...jeez you guys are slow :razz:

I saw it the other day, but I thought you were referring to some unspecified day as D-Day for this wave. It didn't occur to me to check the actual date of D-Day. :p

[cmgames]

My name is pronounced cap-socrates, not cap-so-crates; but you can call me caps.

Aye, aye, cap'n!

~Z

P.S. Ditto on the d-day thing - that's also what I thought.

[Son of Arathorn]

The hint has been in my sig this week...jeez you guys are slow :razz:

Not so much slow as wanting to keep it closer to a surprise until somebody coughcapscoughcough, spilled the beans. Oh, well, like nobody else would've figures it out.

[Hive Lord 1233]

I saw the d-day in your sig a couple days ago too, just didn't think of the actual date of d-day.

[Seb from space]

C3V Fan power
If the C3V fan rolls 3 skulls when attacking, the D-Day comes 4 days earlier. This power can only be used once.
:skull::skull::skull:

:mrgreen:

[Hive Lord 1233]

C3V Fan power
If the C3V fan rolls 3 skulls when attacking, the D-Day comes 4 days earlier. This power can only be used once.
:skull::skull::skull:

:mrgreen:


Like a freaking boss! :D

[personwholives]

It's not my fault. I'm an American! We don't study history. We prefer repeating it anyway.

[Hive Lord 1233]

It's not my fault. I'm an American! We don't study history. We prefer repeating it anyway.

Wait..... what?! :shock:

[screwDriver]

It's not my fault. I'm an American! We don't study history. We prefer repeating it anyway.

Wait..... what?! :shock:

Perhaps he meant like Michael Bay's Pearl Harbour. It's American. Obviously didn't study history. And the BS were repeated in Transformers. :lol:

[Hive Lord 1233]

Uggg.... so close...... C3V.........release............must.................

[personwholives]

It's not my fault. I'm an American! We don't study history. We prefer repeating it anyway.

Wait..... what?! :shock:
That wooshing sound you heard was that joke going right over your head. I think, though, that you were not alone.

I was making a joke on the "Americans are uneducated" thing (that all other countries seem to believe about us), together with "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it". Apparently I went just a little too hard on the mixed references.

[Hive Lord 1233]

Ok, I get it now. :lol:

(:screwy:)

[personwholives]

Sorry, my sense of humor is probably best described as somewhere between quirky and really freaking weird. So if my jokes make no sense, assume I'm at fault.

[Tmac2200]

If it makes you feel any better I got it. >.>

[TrollBrute]

I got it too, though to be more accurate, I think you could have dropped 'history'. :razz:

[Hive Lord 1233]

I'm sorry, the context just messed me up. :footinmouth:

[Hive Lord 1233]

PICS FOR FRONT PAGE RELEASE IN THE GALLERY!!!!!!!!!!:woot:

[The CEE]

I just noticed the new pictures in the gallery! It looks like the dwarf and soulborgs pack will be the first one revealed this time around. June 6th can't come soon enough!

Edit: :ninja:

[Dad_Scaper]

I hate to disappoint you guys, but those are family photos from my Memorial Day cookout.

[Hive Lord 1233]

Darn! :x

[MegaSilver]

I hate to disappoint you guys, but those are family photos from my Memorial Day cookout.

:lol:

[Son of Arathorn]

How I felt when I saw the pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FoRmqsy9xPQ/TvL69WRUDgI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iEXTtqYERVY/s1600/Yes-Man.jpg

[Hive Lord 1233]

How I felt when I saw the pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FoRmqsy9xPQ/TvL69WRUDgI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iEXTtqYERVY/s1600/Yes-Man.jpg


Ikr?

This feels so real! :blowup:

[ZBeeblebrox]

How I felt when I saw the pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FoRmqsy9xPQ/TvL69WRUDgI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iEXTtqYERVY/s1600/Yes-Man.jpg


Wait to you see what is behind the curtain SoA.

(That is after the customary hazing we give to all PAMs :twisted: )

[Hive Lord 1233]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/age_of_chaos.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/incendiborgs.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/ulfrid.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/dwarf_and_soulborg.jpg
Figured I'd just put them up for easy access. ;)

[capsocrates]

Wait to you see what is behind the curtain SoA.

I gotta' admit, at the present moment that's probably what's causing the most jealousy in me towards SoA about when it comes to getting the PAM position. :razz:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

Figured I'd just put them up for easy access.

They're all the same...

[Hive Lord 1233]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/_thumb.jpg

Figured I'd just put them up for easy access.

They're all the same...

Not anymore! :p

[Son of Arathorn]

How I felt when I saw the pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FoRmqsy9xPQ/TvL69WRUDgI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iEXTtqYERVY/s1600/Yes-Man.jpg


Wait to you see what is behind the curtain SoA.

(That is after the customary hazing we give to all PAMs :twisted: )

What a tease. :p

[Hive Lord 1233]

How I felt when I saw the pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FoRmqsy9xPQ/TvL69WRUDgI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/iEXTtqYERVY/s1600/Yes-Man.jpg


Wait to you see what is behind the curtain SoA.

(That is after the customary hazing we give to all PAMs :twisted: )

What a tease. :p

There's a reason he's head of promotions yah know. ;)

[ZBeeblebrox]

That wait is over!!!

D-DAY IS HERE!!!!!!!


Wave 15 - Week 1 is on the Front Page (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/blog.php?b=2033#comments)

[capsocrates]

Nice work guys, I love 'em. I'm looking forward to seeing what the Deathstrike Thrall can do and how you balanced out the Havech Eradicators. I'm realizing I've playtested 7 of the 11 cards in this wave... :)

[Tmac2200]

Are they going to be released a pack each day, or a pack each week?

[capsocrates]

Are they going to be released a pack each day, or a pack each week?

Since the title is Week 1, I think its once a week. ;)

[Taeblewalker]

Definitely weekly.

[puzzlemonkey]

I know I'm likely in the minority here, but as an obsessive completist type, I gotta say thanks for releasing them in weekly bite-sized chunks. This way I can print, rebase, and figure out storage for a few figs and actually have time to play. I did wave all at once and it took a long time!

[Tmac2200]

The Vulcanmech Incendiborgs have inspired a custom of my own who I discovered to have the same paint-job.
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t514/tristanmacklin/PROTOTYPEXC-97.jpg

[ZBeeblebrox]

Now that the Release is posted...I'm getting some work done that has been piling up.

So I have posted 3 new miniature announcements...check it out!

C3V Public Miniature Information Thread - DO NOT POST!!! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1622063&posted=1)

[capsocrates]

Now that the Release is posted...I'm getting some work done that has been piling up.

So I have posted 3 new miniature announcements...check it out!

C3V Public Miniature Information Thread - DO NOT POST!!! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1622063&posted=1)

They look pretty cool!

[Dad_Scaper]

That, capsocrates, is because they are pretty cool.

[awesomeunleashed]

Now that the Release is posted...I'm getting some work done that has been piling up.

So I have posted 3 new miniature announcements...check it out!

C3V Public Miniature Information Thread - DO NOT POST!!! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1622063&posted=1)

They look pretty cool!
I agree. Of course, it's almost to my disadvantage that I'm an insane Star Wars fan-I recognized those immediately as Geonosian Starfighters.* :lol: Still, I think that most people won't notice, and I certainly don't care...

*I mean, without looking at the names of the figures... :p

[Sherman Davies]

Of course, it's almost to my disadvantage that I'm an insane Star Wars fan-I recognized those immediately as Geonosian Starfighters.* :lol: Still, I think that most people won't notice, and I certainly don't care...

*I mean, without looking at the names of the figures... :pBelieve me, the recognizability of minis taken from other sources (usually Star Wars minis or Heroclix) is an ongoing debate within the C3V. I wish we could choose wholly original minis that wouldn't make people think of something other than Heroscape, but it's not always possible. Thanks for letting this one slide, though. :)

[TrollBrute]

I recognized it as well, being a pretty big Star Wars fan. Minor characters (or ships, in this case) like that don't bother me at all. Now Darth Vader would be another story. :razz:

What I do find interesting is that they would be the first Classic 'Scape units that are 'floating' on their bases. Again, doesn't bother me, and it opens up some more possibilities for you guys, it's just interesting to note.

[Hive Lord 1233]

I predict a repulserlift ability like what we have seen at HoSS.

[Ryougabot]

the charts are being dusted off...

[MegaSilver]

I predict a repulserlift ability like what we have seen at HoSS.

Oh, they will be a blast to play. :p

[TrollBrute]

I predict a repulserlift ability like what we have seen at HoSS.

Oh, they will be a blast to play. :p

Blast? Hmmm... :)

[personwholives]

New figures, so exciting. I'm pretty sure I have 2-4 of those mummies already. The ships I'll need to buy. As to that new unique squad... I think I have two of them already. I'm gonna have to check my piles of figures before I order anything. Awesome.

As to the wave, is in next Wednesday yet? I wanna see the new figures!

[awesomeunleashed]

As to the wave, is in next Wednesday yet? I wanna see the new figures!
I totally agree. A couple of days in between boosters, yes, but a whole week? Too long... :p

[LordEsenwienIV]

As to the wave, is in next Wednesday yet? I wanna see the new figures!
I totally agree. A couple of days in between boosters, yes, but a whole week? Too long... :p

As someone who was in the sanctum and worked with this kind of stuff, 1 week is actually needed for "recovery time" (Only words I think could describe it) and you don't want to overload everyone's minds with all the cards at once as each figure will not receive as much attention.

[awesomeunleashed]

As to the wave, is in next Wednesday yet? I wanna see the new figures!
I totally agree. A couple of days in between boosters, yes, but a whole week? Too long... :p

As someone who was in the sanctum and worked with this kind of stuff, 1 week is actually needed for "recovery time" (Only words I think could describe it) and you don't want to overload everyone's minds with all the cards at once as each figure will not receive as much attention.
Hmm. I guess I'm just more impatient because I know some of what's coming... :shrug: ;)

[LordEsenwienIV]

As to the wave, is in next Wednesday yet? I wanna see the new figures!
I totally agree. A couple of days in between boosters, yes, but a whole week? Too long... :p

As someone who was in the sanctum and worked with this kind of stuff, 1 week is actually needed for "recovery time" (Only words I think could describe it) and you don't want to overload everyone's minds with all the cards at once as each figure will not receive as much attention.
Hmm. I guess I'm just more impatient because I know some of what's coming... :shrug: ;)
You're telling an ex-sanctum member this? :p

I actually haven't really been paying too much attention to this wave since I left but from what I remember, people have a lot to look forward to.

[personwholives]

Well, just feel comfortable in the sneak peeks you've gotten from your playtesting, and feel good about it. Then lord it over the rest of us as we sit here not knowing what's coming. I, of course, have some idea what's coming as well. And I'm still super excited.

Hmmm, I just thought of an awesome special power while I was sitting here thinking about this. I'm gonna go write it down somewhere for later.

[Hive Lord 1233]

I predict a repulserlift ability like what we have seen at HoSS.

Oh, they will be a blast to play. :p

Blast? Hmmm... :)

Suicide Drones! That fits right into the evil Soulborg theme!

[Bothi]

THAT ^ would be amazing. A squad of 4 kamikaze soulborgs, kill them self for a 2-range d20 attack. I might actually get them if that is the case.

[awesomeunleashed]

THAT ^ would be amazing. A squad of 4 kamikaze soulborgs, kill them self for a 2-range d20 attack. I might actually get them if that is the case.

It's a squad of 2. Look at the announcement. :)

[Tmac2200]

I just picked up four each of the Command Courrier and Deathstrike Thrall, can't wait for New 'Scape Wednesdays! :D

[Taeblewalker]

You'll love putting the Thrall in with the Preyblood and Nick Esenwein.

[Eraguy816]

Is C3V just customs sold in waves?

[Tmac2200]

They are community made customs and the cards are free. All you have to buy is the figures that correspond to the card.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Is C3V just customs sold in waves?

The C3V is an attempt to continue the world of Heroscape with Customs built from the ground up and tested thoroughly to make sure they fit into the Heroscape canon and are seamlessly compatible with Official figures.

We are a group of about 2 dozen fans of the game, including Admins of this site who with the help of some of the playtesters of the Official game, gave us the tools to develop Customs that are close to the real thing. The C3V works in stages including Design, Editing and Playtesting as we work our way to a release in Waves just like Hasbro did and we encourage Tournament Directors to adopt our designs to be used in games along side other Heroscape figures.

We also ask Scapers to help in Playtesting when units have gone through testing by out Playtesting Deptarment which can be signed up here:

C3V Public Playtesting Sign-up (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=33397)

Check out this thread which should give you a introduction the C3V and what we are doing with this project.

Welcome to C3V (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1434817#post1434817)



-ZBeeblebrox

C3V Executive Board Member and Promotions Director

[personwholives]

Bought new minis yesterday, but only the starship ones. I wound up with 6 of the aces, but only 5 of the others (stupid having to buy on ebay), so it looks like I'll have a spare. As for the mummies, and the new unique squad, still haven't managed to get into my minis to check for them. I was gonna find the mummies when I did DnD last night, but we canceled due to player absences. Sad day.

ETA: Haha! Checked 'em. Two mummies. Unique squad on order from CSI.

New units tomorrow. But I'll be super busy the next two days, so I may not get to see them until Friday.

[Fedex worker]

Not really sure where to put this, but to get 1 squad of Havech Eradicators you need 1 pack right? It looks like the pack they come in comes with 2 squads, but some of the figures look different and I can't really tell. I also notice one is much larger than the others, is their any plans to use this figure?

[ZBeeblebrox]

Not really sure where to put this, but to get 1 squad of Havech Eradicators you need 1 pack right? It looks like the pack they come in comes with 2 squads, but some of the figures look different and I can't really tell. I also notice one is much larger than the others, is their any plans to use this figure?

Any of the figures in the box can be used for the squad. The Unit box comes with 6 figures.



4 storm golems. Armament: nano blaster/reaper blades
1 storm golem. Armament: sonic gun
1 storm golem leader. Armament: nano blaster/reaper blades


http://cdn.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/A/RAKTHEL02.jpg

[Hive Lord 1233]

Not really sure where to put this, but to get 1 squad of Havech Eradicators you need 1 pack right? It looks like the pack they come in comes with 2 squads, but some of the figures look different and I can't really tell. I also notice one is much larger than the others, is their any plans to use this figure?

Any of the figures in the box can be used for the squad. The Unit box comes with 6 figures.



4 storm golems. Armament: nano blaster/reaper blades
1 storm golem. Armament: sonic gun
1 storm golem leader. Armament: nano blaster/reaper blades


http://cdn.miniaturemarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/A/RAKTHEL02.jpg

It's too bad that all of the squads won't be exactly alike, but the alternative is paying double and having a bunch of unused minis.

[capsocrates]

I like the diversity of figures. :)

[Hive Lord 1233]

I agree that it is pretty cool, it's just different from the norm.

[capsocrates]

I agree that it is pretty cool, it's just different from the norm.

Really it's something that I like about all of the Confrontation and AT-43 unit boxes being used for squads. The more sculpts the merrier I say.

[Hive Lord 1233]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/army_of_darkness.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/skeletons.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/1/1/1/8/skull_demons.jpg

:D

Loven' dem demons!

[ZBeeblebrox]

Another Unit has hit public Testing.

If you want a sneak peek at the Mircocorp Troopers (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1632598#post1632598) and help the C3V get units approved...sign up.

[The CEE]

I don't know if the C3V can yet disclose this information, but I will ask regardless. Based on the current schedule, which is planned for release first, the large expansion or wave 16?

[ZBeeblebrox]

That depends on playtesting...so we do not know at this time.

[Fedex worker]

A question about the 2 man common squad of Sylva Confrontation figures, do the designers think that more than 3 of these would be good to have? I know that is usually the case with the DK and Mezzos, but the Wolfen army box comes with 3 squads of them so I was just wondering

[NecroBlade]

They're being designed so that just 3 squads is a fine number to have, but you could also possibly play larger numbers of them.

[TheSparkleInYourWater]

So do the spearmen work fine with 2 squads?, because in the Public Miniature Information Thread it says you won't need more than 1 of the Confronataion starter box set, but it only includes 2 squads of spearmen.

Thanks!

[Toogwick_tuk]

I personally think that two squads of spearmen is too low. I played with five squads when playtesting but I think that three or four is their sweet spot.

[ZBeeblebrox]

You may need another box of Spearmen (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/confrontation-griffins-of-akkylannie-griffin-spearmen-unit-box.html)...I think 4 squads is good. ;)

[capsocrates]

MegaSilver recommends at least 4--he told me I should try to get 6.

[Fedex worker]

How many of the Uncommon mummy figure are recommended?


MegaSilver recommends at least 4--he told me I should try to get 6.

Also it interesting that he suggests 6 squads of a 4-man squad since that would fill up an entire standard start zone.

[ZBeeblebrox]

How many of the Uncommon mummy figure are recommended?


MegaSilver recommends at least 4--he told me I should try to get 6.

Also it interesting that he suggests 6 squads of a 4-man squad since that would fill up an entire standard start zone.

What squad would that be? I do not think we have any squads where 6 is the sweet spot. :shrug:

[ZBeeblebrox]

Check out the New Welcome to C3V (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1434817) Introduction Post!!

[Viegon]

For the spearmen, depending on your playstyle and so forth, I'd say 2-4 squads (2 squads make nice complementary units, 3-4 make a nice focus of your army). I really can't even fathom when you'd use 6 squads, unless you were playing like a 700-800 point game.

[capsocrates]

Let me clarify. He said that it was best to own 6 squads so that I could run 5 squads with a/some hero(es).

[Viegon]

Let me clarify. He said that it was best to own 6 squads so that I could run 5 squads with a/some hero(es).

Huh, I still don't see 5 squads being played much. I mean, can you name a squad that does get played that way often? You do have some like Zombies, Drones, Blade Gruts, Vipers, but the Cathar aren't much like those squads.

[The CEE]

Check out the New Welcome to C3V (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1434817) Introduction Post!!Great job ZBeeblebrox! It's very informative and welcoming. I love it! :thumbsup:

[MegaSilver]

Let me clarify. He said that it was best to own 6 squads so that I could run 5 squads with a/some hero(es).

Huh, I still don't see 5 squads being played much. I mean, can you name a squad that does get played that way often? You do have some like Zombies, Drones, Blade Gruts, Vipers, but the Cathar aren't much like those squads.

Considering their point cost and start zone restrictions, I plan on playing them to their max potentional, without heroes, which will equal 6 squads at 24 hexes. IMO, with their abilities, I think they will be fun to play that way. I guess I may be in the minority in this, though.

[Hive Lord 1233]

You may need another box of Spearmen (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/confrontation-griffins-of-akkylannie-griffin-spearmen-unit-box.html)...I think 4 squads is good. ;)

I'm liking that price! Thanks for the link!

Also, they fit into the Einar Roman/Greek/British Disciplined Army Faction right? They look like Einar units.

[capsocrates]

Check out the New Welcome to C3V (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1434817) Introduction Post!!Great job ZBeeblebrox! It's very informative and welcoming. I love it! :thumbsup:

Yes, it's awesome. I noticed a few typos. I'm really busy this week, but when I have a chance I'll try to send you a PM.

[Hive Lord 1233]

Let me clarify. He said that it was best to own 6 squads so that I could run 5 squads with a/some hero(es).

Huh, I still don't see 5 squads being played much. I mean, can you name a squad that does get played that way often? You do have some like Zombies, Drones, Blade Gruts, Vipers, but the Cathar aren't much like those squads.

Considering their point cost and start zone restrictions, I plan on playing them to their max potentional, without heroes, which will equal 6 squads at 24 hexes. IMO, with their abilities, I think they will be fun to play that way. I guess I may be in the minority in this, though.

Sounds like a higher cost unit then. Thats good, we already have the Roman and Greek swarmers. Phalanx soldiers maybe?

[ZBeeblebrox]

You may need another box of Spearmen (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/confrontation-griffins-of-akkylannie-griffin-spearmen-unit-box.html)...I think 4 squads is good. ;)

I'm liking that price! Thanks for the link!

Also, they fit into the Einar Roman/Greek/British Disciplined Army Faction right? They look like Einar units.

That is good speculation...you may be on to something OR you could way off base ;)

[Fedex worker]

How many of the Uncommon mummy figure are recommended?


Anyone at liberty to answer this?:)

[capsocrates]

How many of the Uncommon mummy figure are recommended?


Anyone at liberty to answer this?:)

I thought I read 2 somewhere, but I don't remember who--it might have been my assumption.

[Tornado]

All I hear is Sudema love and that is some sweet music. :)

[1Mmirg]

I don't recall exactly, but my memory is that 2-3 is roughly what I was looking for (for the Mummies).

[NecroBlade]

Personally, I always shoot for about 3 Uncommons.

Oh, and Mega's crazy. :p Sure, you can play a simple 6 squads of the spearmen, but they'll probably be more fun (and better?) with some other cards in the army as well.

[MegaSilver]

Personally, I always shoot for about 3 Uncommons.

Oh, and Mega's crazy. :p Sure, you can play a simple 6 squads of the spearmen, but they'll probably be more fun (and better?) with some other cards in the army as well.

Well, I could drop a squad and add Raelin. But still, I cannot think of any build I like that isn't just Spearmen. :)

[1Mmirg]

Wow, I need to go look at those cards again. Seems like I really liked Rats with the Spearmen. Maybe that was another squad...

[MegaSilver]

Wow, I need to go look at those cards again. Seems like I really liked Rats with the Spearmen. Maybe that was another squad...

True... :ponder:

But I also like the idea of using the Spearmen as their own screen, with that power and all.

[capsocrates]

Wow, I need to go look at those cards again. Seems like I really liked Rats with the Spearmen. Maybe that was another squad...

True... :ponder:

But I also like the idea of using the Spearmen as their own screen, with that power and all.

Ahhhhhhhh... you guys are driving me crazy.

[Taeblewalker]

The Spearmen are extremely fun. I'd like to personally thank Chas for helping me to playtest them and giving valuable feedback that really helped polish the unit.

[awesomeunleashed]

The Spearmen are extremely fun. I'd like to personally thank Chas for helping me to playtest them and giving valuable feedback that really helped polish the unit.
Thanks for telling us. Now we know who to blackmail. :twisted:

[Hive Lord 1233]

Personally, I always shoot for about 3 Uncommons.

Oh, and Mega's crazy. :p Sure, you can play a simple 6 squads of the spearmen, but they'll probably be more fun (and better?) with some other cards in the army as well.

Well, I could drop a squad and add Raelin. But still, I cannot think of any build I like that isn't just Spearmen. :)

Ok, time for some analysis!

Its pretty likely that he is thinking of a tournament-sized army, so the army is most likely 500 points.

(checks calculator)

500 divided by 6 is 83.33333333333 (etc.)

Now, add in the fact that Mega said players could easily swap a squad of spearmen for Raelin. Guess what? Raelin V1 is 80 points.

6(squads of spearmen/Raelin)x80=480+20(filler)=500


The other possibility of course is an army of 600 points, in which the squad would be priced at 100 points.

6(squads of spearmen)x100=600
and
5(squads of spearmen)x100=500+80(Raelin)+20(filler)=600

I bet that the spearmen are either 80 or 100 points, with 80 being the favorite. ;)

Is that about right?

[Arch-vile]

Well done Hivelord! The mystery is being unraveled! Ahahahaha!

I'm thinking a "Spear Throw" power, though a reach clone may be the case too...

[1Mmirg]

It's time for the next Public Access Guest Member Poll. Here are the nominees:

awesomeunleashed
Capsocrates
Infectedsloth
personwholives
Rocktroll
Typhon2222

As usual, please let us know here if you can accept this nomination. Poll will open on Monday.

[infectedsloth]

It's time for the next Public Access Guest Member Poll. Here are the nominees:

awesomeunleashed
Capsocrates
Infectedsloth
personwholives
Rocktroll
Typhon2222

As usual, please let us know here if you can accept this nomination. Poll will open on Monday.

Thanks for the nomination! As usual it looks like I have some tough competition, good luck to all.

[1Mmirg]

awesomeunleashed PM'd me. He's away right now, but will be back soon and accepts his nomination.

infectedsloth--glad you are on board--you're right, tough competition, but you belong here, no question. Thanks for all your help!

[Typhon2222]

Thanks oodles for the nomination, gents. Unfortunately I'll need to decline -- I'm in Berlin for a year, with no access to any of my 'Scape stuff. (I had to put it all in deep storage before leaving the States.)

Here's hoping I can rejoin the community in depth in a year or so. If there is one thing from my life in the U.S. that I miss, it's my Scape collection.

[1Mmirg]

Thanks oodles for the nomination, gents. Unfortunately I'll need to decline -- I'm in Berlin for a year, with no access to any of my 'Scape stuff. (I had to put it all in deep storage before leaving the States.)

Here's hoping I can rejoin the community in depth in a year or so. If there is one thing from my life in the U.S. that I miss, it's my Scape collection.

Thanks for the note, Typhon. I thought you were out of town, but didn't want to pass over your nomination, in case it was for a shorter time than I recalled.

We'll miss you--but look forward to your return. Enjoy Berlin!

[capsocrates]

I'm up for it. Thanks for the nomination! May the most creative one win! :)

[Rocktroll]

HI guys, thanks for the nomination.

For the next 2 months I will be overseas teaching and will not have any internet access that I know off outside military sources. Thanks for the nomination but for this round I will be pretty much useless to you :)

[ZBeeblebrox]

Thanks Rocktroll
Take care over there

[awesomeunleashed]

Thanks for the nomination, people! Fortunately, I still have some Internet access here, so I won't have to wait until the 24th to see if I get in... :)

[1Mmirg]

Sorry you can't join us, Rocktroll.

--

The new poll is open--Vote! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=42055)

[Porkins]

Glad you're teaching and not shooting (ie - being shot at) Rocktroll!

[Arch-vile]

Hey, the miniature info thread is stickied again! Alright!

I guess all the confused questioning paid off :)

[The CEE]

I was wondering if anyone has tried to rebase this (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1560369&postcount=29) guy, and if so, what kind of base did you put him on? He seems to be pretty off-balance and I'm not sure if he will stand upright on a large D&D Heroscape base (the kind Moltenclaw is on). Any advice?

[Fedex worker]

I was wondering if anyone has tried to rebase this (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1560369&postcount=29) guy, and if so, what kind of base did you put him on? He seems to be pretty off-balance and I'm not sure if he will stand upright on a large D&D Heroscape base (the kind Moltenclaw is on). Any advice?

I had the same experience and actually made him doublespaced for my own custom, however it was suggested to ne to use a large D3 base as well. He kept falling over on a regular single space. (I haven't tried the D3 one yet)

[Fedex worker]

Double post, ignore. :/

[ZBeeblebrox]

New Miniature announcement!

This one is shocking! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1644321#post1644321)

[vegietarian18]

That is awesome! Ever since I've seen the Blue Wyrmling, I've wanted to see Aquilla's blue dragon, and the miniature that was chosen is great. It fits in pretty well with the rest of the dragons, and the pricing on the miniature looks reasonable enough. I'm looking forward to this one.

[johnny139]

Man, blue dragon, yellow tinge, perfect scale... a bit pricy but not out of bounds for what original HeroScape large figures cost (about $4 a figure)... kudos to whoever found that one. :up:

[ZBeeblebrox]

Man, blue dragon, yellow tinge, perfect scale... a bit pricy but not out of bounds for what original HeroScape large figures cost (about $4 a figure)... kudos to whoever found that one. :up:

thank robbdaman; he found this and we all cheered!

[Dad_Scaper]

I was very excited when I realized his pose looks almost perfect for a nice 2 hex footprint with minimal denial issues for a dragon. He really does look made for the game, from the pictures I've seen.

[Ace Histoli]

Whuuuu! This single figure is the most anticipated and expected thing since the end of OfficialScape. Excuse me, I have some frantic "submit order" clicking to do...

[Tiranx]

Just bought my blue dragon. Hope my wife won't kill me, but who can say no to Aquilla's dragon?

[Ace_of_Spades]

New Miniature announcement!

This one is shocking! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1644321#post1644321)

I never thought it would happen! Now I can't wait to see what kind of twist the C3V gives this turquois menace to make him unique from the many custom blue dragons.

[capsocrates]

Sweet! Now to see if I can find $44 of other things I really want from their site so I don't have to spend another $6 on shipping...

New Miniature announcement!

This one is shocking! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1644321#post1644321)

I never thought it would happen! Now I can't wait to see what kind of twist the C3V gives this turquois menace to make him unique from the many custom blue dragons.

He doesn't need to be different from the other custom blue dragons, necessarily--he just needs to be good. There are several custom blue dragons that are, in my opinion, excellent and would make a fine official dragon.

[Arch-vile]

Blue Dragon!!! Wahoo!

I cannot wait to see C3V's take on it. I wonder how similar to the wyrmling it will be.

High attack, and a 3 or 4 pronged Lightning Breath seem like obvious additions, but I am sure C3V will surprise everyone as usual :D

[capsocrates]

I couldn't bring myself to spend $50 just to get free shipping, but they do have some cool LEGO sets and other toys on that site--I thought some of you might like to know.

[ZBeeblebrox]

I couldn't bring myself to spend $50 just to get free shipping, but they do have some cool LEGO sets and other toys on that site--I thought some of you might like to know.

For me, doubling the price with shipping...after a very long search for a suitable Aquilla Dragon...it was so worth $12. ;)

[capsocrates]

I couldn't bring myself to spend $50 just to get free shipping, but they do have some cool LEGO sets and other toys on that site--I thought some of you might like to know.

For me, doubling the price with shipping...after a very long search for a suitable Aquilla Dragon...it was so worth $12. ;)

That's what I decided as well. I also didn't want to wait for it to go out of stock. :p

[Sherman Davies]

This Bullyland company's toys may also be available in small Mom & Pop toy stores that specialize in carrying educational toys like the ones made by Schleich, so those who want to avoid shipping can try those places first.

[The CEE]

Aquilla gets her long awaited dragon! :excited: Now, I've got to ask, does this mini fit better on a thin peanut base or a fat one?

[robbdaman]

TGF has so many toys and figures I'm surprised anyone can say they don't want enough stuff to get free shipping.

For a few games I have a variety of these in my cart

Safari Ltd Mini Penguin - For a custom Hey That's My Fish (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/8203/hey-thats-my-fish) boardgame
Safari Ltd Mini Chinese Dragons - For a custom Tsuro (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/16992/tsuro) boardgame
Safari Ltd Mini Biplane - For a custom Crosshairs (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/78093/crosshairs) boardgame
Boggle Carabiner - For uh Boggle obviously
Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise - For C3V Blue dragon
Safari Ltd Mythical Realms Toob - For possible other customs

These might be a good purchase as well for... um.. something.

Safari Ltd Mini Black Ant ;)

There are also over 100 games they sell including some great little Ravensburger ones and Lego games.

[MegaSilver]

I couldn't bring myself to spend $50 just to get free shipping, but they do have some cool LEGO sets and other toys on that site--I thought some of you might like to know.

For me, doubling the price with shipping...after a very long search for a suitable Aquilla Dragon...it was so worth $12. ;)

Ditto. :up: I have just ordered the dragon after seeing you guys posting it.

I thought that the first dragon was modded from the second one you were going to choose, but I see that they were the ones that modded it themselves. I cannot wait to see him released. :)

[Heroscaper Guy]

I am personally speculating but i think that the large expansion will come first as there would be fewer figures to play test. In it we would probably have the Maug figure, the blue dragon, Niddhogg, the bonechill chimera, and the Mage Knight cyclops. I could be completely off. We are possibly also from robbdaman's post having aquilla's ants yeah!

[ZBeeblebrox]

Nice speculation HSguy...I can neither confirm nor deny your guess. :)

[Porkins]

I think that Michael's carries those Safari Ltd. "Toobs." They have all sorts of different themed toobs in addition to bunches of other figures, including dragons, pirates, cannons, knights, animals, etc. Most are a bit out of scale...but I wonder if Michael's also carries that blue dragon. :ponder:

[infectedsloth]

Awesome! Aquillla finally gets there huge dragon, now hurry up and open him up for public playtesting.:p

[ZBeeblebrox]

I think that Michael's carries those Safari Ltd. "Toobs." They have all sorts of different themed toobs in addition to bunches of other figures, including dragons, pirates, cannons, knights, animals, etc. Most are a bit out of scale...but I wonder if Michael's also carries that blue dragon. :ponder:

I have not seen that company sold at Michael's, they usually have the Schelch dragons...but not Bullyland.

[superfrog]

I'm sure you realized this, but


HE DOESN'T HAVE ARMS!!!??!?!?!!!!!


:shock:

[MegaSilver]

He's a Wyvern Dragon.

(Yeah, our Wyvern is a Dragon, but for some reason it's species is Wyvern. Probably due to DnD influence. Let's hope his species is actually Dragon, so that it can bond like the rest of the Dragons. It's fitting that Aquilla's Dragon is like the rest.)

[robbdaman]

Bullyland is a German company so TGF is the only toy company I've seen that imports from them. Others might but you would have to look around. On the plus side that means European players may have easy access to their goods.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Not all dragons look alike, even the Official Heroscape Dragons do not look the same.

[The CEE]

I am personally speculating but i think that the large expansion will come first as there would be fewer figures to play test. In it we would probably have the Maug figure, the blue dragon, Niddhogg, the bonechill chimera, and the Mage Knight cyclops. I could be completely off. We are possibly also from robbdaman's post having aquilla's ants yeah!I like the sound of this! I'm just adding to the speculation, but the large C3V expansion might also contain this large soulborg (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1595232&postcount=35). That way the set would contain five figures just like an official large hero expansion.

[Heroscaper Guy]

Sorry if I was confusing The CEE. I just realized it but I meant for there to be five figures. I meant for the blue dragon and Nidhogg to be separate figures not sound like the same figure.

[The CEE]

Sorry if I was confusing The CEE. I just realized it but I meant for there to be five figures. I meant for the blue dragon and Nidhogg to be separate figures not sound like the same figure.Oh, I gotcha. I could be missing something, but could you send me a link to the miniature Nidhogg is referring to? I'm not familiar with that one.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Sorry if I was confusing The CEE. I just realized it but I meant for there to be five figures. I meant for the blue dragon and Nidhogg to be separate figures not sound like the same figure.Oh, I gotcha. I could be missing something, but could you send me a link to the miniature Nidhogg is referring to? I'm not familiar with that one.

Nidhogg has been put on hold due to miniature availability issues.

Hint, Hint ;)

[Toogwick_tuk]

Darn, I have to wait to order because I'm on vacation. I have to time the order just right so when I get back home I have this awesome dragon in my hands. I hope he'll be as good with the Green scales as Nilf is.

[Grison]

Nidhogg has been put on hold due to miniature availability issues.

I hope that when he comes out eventually, the originally announced figure will at least be an approved proxy. I really like that figure. :)

[MegaSilver]

Nidhogg has been put on hold due to miniature availability issues.

I hope that when he comes out eventually, the originally announced figure will at least be an approved proxy. I really like that figure. :)

:word:

I have the original. I plan to use 'em.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Nidhogg has been put on hold due to miniature availability issues.

I hope that when he comes out eventually, the originally announced figure will at least be an approved proxy. I really like that figure. :)

the figure used for Nidhogg was never officially announced...we just had some awesome guesses...so what figure are you speaking of?

[MegaSilver]

Nidhogg has been put on hold due to miniature availability issues.

I hope that when he comes out eventually, the originally announced figure will at least be an approved proxy. I really like that figure. :)

the figure used for Nidhogg was never officially announced...we just had some awesome guesses...so what figure are you speaking of?

Is it okay to say the figure here, or in PM?

[Viegon]

Hey all, the C3V Lead Playtesters decided to cook up a thread to share some of our playtesting experiences with you guys, check it out HERE (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=42178).

[capsocrates]

I got my new dragon figure in the mail today. It fits right in with the other dragons, but is very distinct at the same time. I'll put some pictures up later.

Hey all, the C3V Lead Playtesters decided to cook up a thread to share some of our playtesting experiences with you guys, check it out HERE (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=42178).

Make sure you do that, guys. I, for one, learned that I've been doing my playtesting pretty poorly. Check it out so you can learn how to maximize your feedback!

[Rocktroll]

Is any one going to order the dragon soon? I checked shipping to PR and its $11 just for one item. Thats $17 for a single figure. If some one is willing to buy more that one I would love to trade for it or purchase it plus pay the shipping. I know its more trouble to do it this way but my wife would kill me if I paid almost $20 for a single figure. Or maybe I could get a few people interested and do a group order to get the $50 free shipping then just reship the figure to each person? Should come out to less than $10 each. Any one interested?

[Nirek]

Is any one going to order the dragon soon? I checked shipping to PR and its $11 just for one item. Thats $17 for a single figure. If some one is willing to buy more that one I would love to trade for it or purchase it plus pay the shipping. I know its more trouble to do it this way but my wife would kill me if I paid almost $20 for a single figure. Or maybe I could get a few people interested and do a group order to get the $50 free shipping then just reship the figure to each person? Should come out to less than $10 each. Any one interested?

I'd jump on that train if we could get others involved.

[Xotli]

Is any one going to order the dragon soon? I checked shipping to PR and its $11 just for one item. Thats $17 for a single figure. If some one is willing to buy more that one I would love to trade for it or purchase it plus pay the shipping. I know its more trouble to do it this way but my wife would kill me if I paid almost $20 for a single figure. Or maybe I could get a few people interested and do a group order to get the $50 free shipping then just reship the figure to each person? Should come out to less than $10 each. Any one interested?

I'd jump on that train if we could get others involved.

Yep, me too.

[UtahScott]

And here.

[Tmac2200]

I might join in on that also.

[Porkins]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me

[Nirek]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me

Awesome. Thanks Porkins. We'll need at least 9 people to get the free shipping.

[UtahScott]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
MeAhem. Huge Blue Aquillan Dragon, people! Step up, right this way, add your name, enjoy the show...

[capsocrates]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
MeAhem. Huge Blue Aquillan Dragon, people! Step up, right this way, add your name, enjoy the show...

I already have it, but I'm looking to see if any of my local friends are interested.

[1Mmirg]

If the cost stays low enough, I might be able to do this as well. Can you have me as "alternate" or something?

[Porkins]

Sure, added:

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me

Maybe:
1Mmirg

[Porkins]

Can somebody who has already got a blue dragon weigh it and post here in ounces? With that I should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate at the shipping cost to send out the dragons. Unless the dragon is made of leaded plastic, it should only be a couple bucks to ship it from me to wherever you are.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Can somebody who has already got a blue dragon weigh it and post here in ounces? With that I should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate at the shipping cost to send out the dragons. Unless the dragon is made of leaded plastic, it should only be a couple bucks to ship it from me to wherever you are.

Its fairly light, not sure how much it weighs...but it is not much.

[Johngee]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me

Maybe:
1Mmirg



@ Porkins ~

So if I understand this correctly, you are going to order a bunch of these dragons (that are not even "official," yet), have them sent to you in Tucson, AZ, and then redistribute them to PR, PA, CA, UT, TX, and FL, respectively. That is really COOL, and very nice of you to "head up." How are you going to handle the individual reimbursements ... trade, cash, check, credit-card, PayPal, First-Born, etc.?

I always hate paying maximum shipping for only one or two items and always try to combine a bunch of things into every order I make on eBay, Auggies, MiniatureMarkets, CoolStuffInc, etc. This actually sounds like a good deal to me, and I'd like to also get in on it. In fact I'll buy two of them draygoons, so that you have the minimum order of NINE to get the FREE shipping, realizing that MegaSilver and Grison haven't gotten back to you yet and many others have not even discovered this amazing offer.

~ John G. in NJ

[ZBeeblebrox]

What do you mean "are not official".

If the C3V releases a miniature in the C3V Public Miniature Information Thread (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=35777)it is an "official" C3V sculpt. We will use each miniture listed in that thread in future C3V waves.

Just a FYI ;)

[robbdaman]

I'm not sure what you mean by "official" because C3V is a customs project but as far as our process goes it is on the books as being a dragon we will use. Once it is announced it is set in stone that the figure will be used, the only reason that might change is if there is a huge change in availability making it no longer viable. This happened with Haduc early on and we are very careful now to make sure that availability is good for things and we give as much early notice so people can make purchases. Rest assured though that we will use that Bullyland dragon come Hell or high water at this point.

[Porkins]

@ Porkins ~

So if I understand this correctly, you are going to order a bunch of these dragons (that are not even "official," yet), have them sent to you in Tucson, AZ, and then redistribute them to PR, PA, CA, UT, TX, and FL, respectively. That is really COOL, and very nice of you to "head up." How are you going to handle the individual reimbursements ... trade, cash, check, credit-card, PayPal, First-Born, etc.?

I always hate paying maximum shipping for only one or two items and always try to combine a bunch of things into every order I make on eBay, Auggies, MiniatureMarkets, CoolStuffInc, etc. This actually sounds like a good deal to me, and I'd like to also get in on it. In fact I'll buy two of them draygoons, so that you have the minimum order of NINE to get the FREE shipping, realizing that MegaSilver and Grison haven't gotten back to you yet and many others have not even discovered this amazing offer.

~ John G. in NJ

Yes, that is exactly what I will do. I would prefer Paypal for the reimbursements, but I can work with people that don't have that available. I'd rather not do trades...unless you have something on my want list, then we can talk...er PM.


Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me
Johngee x2

Maybe:
1Mmirg

[MegaSilver]

Realizing that MegaSilver and Grison haven't gotten back to you yet and many others have not even discovered this amazing offer.

~ John G. in NJ

I didn't realize Porkins was offering to do this, okay? Because he just said he would do it today, and I usually get on during the night.

Thanks for the offer Porkins, but as I said in another thread, I already ordered him as soon as I saw his in the Public Mini Thread (read: 15 minutes after). So he's already heading this way in the mail.

[Johngee]

What do you mean "are not official".


Sorry ZBeeblebrox, my bad! I did not intend to step on anyones toes. I build custom terrain and have not been involved in any C3V or C3G designs or playtesting, etc. I did read that statement previously about all announced miniatures would eventually be used, but I was not think of that when I said:



... these dragons (that are not even "official," yet), ...



I was referring to the fact that it had not been "released" in a WAVE Set as a fully vetted, sanctioned, and blessed figure for public consumption. Only when a WAVE is announced and published do I usually start acquiring those figures to add to my collection. Have A Nic e Day; - )

[ZBeeblebrox]

What do you mean "are not official".


Sorry ZBeeblebrox, my bad! I did not intend to step on anyones toes. I build custom terrain and have not been involved in any C3V or C3G designs or playtesting, etc. I did read that statement previously about all announced miniatures would eventually be used, but I was not think of that when I said:



... these dragons (that are not even "official," yet), ...



I was referring to the fact that it had not been "released" in a WAVE Set as a fully vetted, sanctioned, and blessed figure for public consumption. Only when a WAVE is announced and published do I usually start acquiring those figures to add to my collection. Have A Nic e Day; - )

I understand. I was just pointing it out so everyone understood that when we release a sculpt to the public, we will use that figure in a future wave.

We decided to per-release sculpt information after our "supply" of Omegacron sculpts dried up while we were getting the first C3v wave together.

We realized we can't control the "supply" but we can get the information out to the public as soon as possible so Scapers can get a hold of miniatures that will be a C3V Unit someday. It is the "best" way so far to combat the "supply and demand" of pre-painted miniatures.

No problem Johngee...if you trust our designs so far I hope you consider buying ahead of time...before units disappear when we release a unit Army Card to the public...that is the whole point of per-releasing sculpt information in the first place.

-ZB

[1Mmirg]

Can somebody who has already got a blue dragon weigh it and post here in ounces? With that I should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate at the shipping cost to send out the dragons. Unless the dragon is made of leaded plastic, it should only be a couple bucks to ship it from me to wherever you are.

Here (http://www.amazon.com/Bullyland-Fantasy-Figure-Dragon-flying/dp/B001YTXC0Q/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1343253710&sr=8-11&keywords=bullyland+dragon)'s the info from Amazon for a similar dragon (diff. paint).

[capsocrates]

Can somebody who has already got a blue dragon weigh it and post here in ounces? With that I should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate at the shipping cost to send out the dragons. Unless the dragon is made of leaded plastic, it should only be a couple bucks to ship it from me to wherever you are.

Here (http://www.amazon.com/Bullyland-Fantasy-Figure-Dragon-flying/dp/B001YTXC0Q/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1343253710&sr=8-11&keywords=bullyland+dragon)'s the info from Amazon for a similar dragon (diff. paint).

It looks like the shipping on that dragon is prohibitively expensive.

[robbdaman]

Can somebody who has already got a blue dragon weigh it and post here in ounces? With that I should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate at the shipping cost to send out the dragons. Unless the dragon is made of leaded plastic, it should only be a couple bucks to ship it from me to wherever you are.

Here (http://www.amazon.com/Bullyland-Fantasy-Figure-Dragon-flying/dp/B001YTXC0Q/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1343253710&sr=8-11&keywords=bullyland+dragon)'s the info from Amazon for a similar dragon (diff. paint).

It looks like the shipping on that dragon is prohibitively expensive.

That's an understatement. $34?! Must be shipped directly from Germany. :shock:

[dafe31]

I'll head that up. So far I've got:

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me

I'd like to get in on this if you're still recruiting.

DAFE31

[Porkins]

You're in. I'll wait a few days before making an order to give people a chance to see this. Here's what I have so far:



Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me
Johngee x2
dafe31

Maybe:
1Mmirg

[Ace Histoli]

My scale registers 1.2 oz of electrifying awesome. The box or whatever you ship him in will probably double that though...

[Gurei-Ornery]

Porkins,

10% off $75 or more at TGFToys. Use code JULY1075. Good until July 30th.

[The CEE]

@Porkins

I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but I tried to add twelve of the Turquoise Dragons to my cart on the TGF Toys website and it restricted my order to only six. I received the message:
Quantity of Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise you requested has been adjusted from 12 to 6 based on available quantity.

[Porkins]

Uh oh.

[Tmac2200]

Is it available elsewhere? Because if it is that limited I can't see C3V using this figure.

[1Mmirg]

Porkins,

I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but I tried to add twelve of the Turquoise Dragons to my cart on the TGF Toys website and it restricted my order to only six. I received the message:
Quantity of Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise you requested has been adjusted from 12 to 6 based on available quantity.

Can someone else check?

Is this just a limit of no more than 6 per customer? (Because quantities are on the low side.) Or is this a deathknell?

I don't do online shopping, so I am terrible at figuring out quantities, shipping, etc...

[quozl]

Only 5 left at TGF Toys. The only other places online that have it that I see are in Europe.

[Nirek]

So what does that mean for us? Will C3V still use it? Will you add an alternative?

[TrollBrute]

Yep, just knocked me down to 5, while the Brown dragon let me put 12 in my cart.

[quozl]

Good news! Not sure if there's any difference but the picture looks the same:

http://www.tgftoys.com/Bullyland-Turquoise-Flying-Dragon-75524.htm

It let me put 391 of them in my cart. :)

[Nirek]

Awesome!! Crisis averted then.

Good news! Not sure if there's any difference but the picture looks the same:

http://www.tgftoys.com/Bullyland-Turquoise-Flying-Dragon-75524.htm

It let me put 391 of them in my cart. :)

[kolakoski]

What do you mean "are not official".


Sorry ZBeeblebrox, my bad! I did not intend to step on anyones toes. I build custom terrain and have not been involved in any C3V or C3G designs or playtesting, etc. I did read that statement previously about all announced miniatures would eventually be used, but I was not think of that when I said:



... these dragons (that are not even "official," yet), ...



I was referring to the fact that it had not been "released" in a WAVE Set as a fully vetted, sanctioned, and blessed figure for public consumption. Only when a WAVE is announced and published do I usually start acquiring those figures to add to my collection. Have A Nic e Day; - )

I understand. I was just pointing it out so everyone understood that when we release a sculpt to the public, we will use that figure in a future wave.

We decided to per-release sculpt information after our "supply" of Omegacron sculpts dried up while we were getting the first C3v wave together.

We realized we can't control the "supply" but we can get the information out to the public as soon as possible so Scapers can get a hold of miniatures that will be a C3V Unit someday. It is the "best" way so far to combat the "supply and demand" of pre-painted miniatures.

No problem Johngee...if you trust our designs so far I hope you consider buying ahead of time...before units disappear when we release a unit Army Card to the public...that is the whole point of per-releasing sculpt information in the first place.

-ZB

Is it available elsewhere? Because if it is that limited I can't see C3V using this figure.

Well met!

These kinds of issues prompted this in another thread:

"I just bought both the Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes from Noble Knight. Ideally, I would be able to see the C3V cards for units before purchasing them, but recent history has made me fearful, given the current rarity/unavailability of figures previously released. Fortunately, the quality of the C3V units released thus far has been pretty high. I am also hopeful that -

Quoting myself from elsewhere:

Redundant Systems seems far better than 4 life, and the same mechanic under different names should lead to a unique squad renaissance.

Take the Kozuke Samurai, and give them Samurai Armor that operated like Redundant Systems, call them what you will. Even 1 point would make a huge difference.

- given the focus on unique squad development in these Army Boxes, the C3V team will 'make my dreams come true.'"

Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought (Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain? (Of course, if they become that rare, I can trade them for lots of cash to buy Heroscape.) And not too afraid, as some of the Ram have already been released, and the Wolfen seem pretty far along already. As trust in C3V quality rises (as it must, seeing as how they have created consistently high quality units thus far), and more Heroscapers buy in, a pattern of becoming rare during release and/or pre-release could cause production to go up. I'm rapidly talking myself down here. :grandfather:

Seems like a pretty good investment.

[TrollBrute]

The Turquoise Flying Dragon (as opposed to the Dragon Flying Turquoise) is listed at 3/4 inch shorter, but they look the same except for the grainier picture.

[quozl]

Not shorter, narrower. Looks like they might have adjusted the wings a bit.

[Nirek]

Those announcements have been around for months, and this one for several days. I think there's a big difference. Bases on the short two-wave history of C3V, the worst I'd expect is that the units you purchased would also have "alternates" that become acceptable proxies a la Varkaanan Blade Dancers. Your figs will be used, and I expect even if the other stock didn't show up this one would be used, just perhaps with another figure as a possibility too.

[capsocrates]

That picture looks slightly different to me from the figure sitting in front of me on my desk.

Kolakoski, you have not acted prematurely. Designs are in the pipes for almost every single figure in those army boxes. Designs for those figures WILL be released. In fact, most of the designs for the Ram Army box have already been released. See wave 15.

[The CEE]

Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought (Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain? (Of course, if they become that rare, I can trade them for lots of cash to buy Heroscape.) You do know that once a figure is announced in this (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=35777) thread that the C3V will definitely develop an army card for that miniature, right? You have nothing to worry about, regardless if the Wolfen Army Box becomes scarce or not.

[Nirek]

Anyway, are we all still on with Porkins?

[capsocrates]

Not shorter, narrower. Looks like they might have adjusted the wings a bit.

The face is distinctly different up close, although it follows the same idea. The scale structure on the chest is different, and the arms and "thumb" are more pronounced on the official dragon, but otherwise they seem to be mostly the same.

[kolakoski]

Well met!

Geez, you guys are quick! I think it was only a few minutes before the fully edited version of my post was up.

"Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought (Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain? (Of course, if they become that rare, I can trade them for lots of cash to buy Heroscape.) And not too afraid, as some of the Ram have already been released, and the Wolfen seem pretty far along already. As trust in C3V quality rises (as it must, seeing as how they have created consistently high quality units thus far), and more Heroscapers buy in, a pattern of becoming rare during release and/or pre-release could cause production to go up. I'm rapidly talking myself down here. :grandfather:

Seems like a pretty good investment."

The ironclad guarantee is nice, too. 8)

[MegaSilver]

Good news! Not sure if there's any difference but the picture looks the same:

http://www.tgftoys.com/Bullyland-Turquoise-Flying-Dragon-75524.htm

It let me put 391 of them in my cart. :)

That's the one I initially ordered anyway.

[Porkins]

I can still do this, I just want to hear from those of you on the list yes or no, do you want me to order you a "Bullyland Tuquoise Flying Dragon" in lieu of a "Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise"? They look like they are probably the exact same thing listed twice due to a website error, but I cannot be sure.

Rocktroll
Nirek
Xotli
Utah Scott
Tmac2200
Me
Johngee x2
dafe31

Maybe:
1Mmirg


Edit: I just sent a question off to TGF Toys asking whether the two items were actually identical. Will keep the group apprised.

[Nirek]

I'm still in either way. If it's a bit different, it looks similar enough to me. That's all that matters to me.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought (Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain? (Of course, if they become that rare, I can trade them for lots of cash to buy Heroscape.) And not too afraid, as some of the Ram have already been released, and the Wolfen seem pretty far along already. As trust in C3V quality rises (as it must, seeing as how they have created consistently high quality units thus far), and more Heroscapers buy in, a pattern of becoming rare during release and/or pre-release could cause production to go up. I'm rapidly talking myself down here. :grandfather:

Seems like a pretty good investment.



We announced the use of the Confrontation Army/Starter boxes back in September of last year...so I think many Scapers have gone out there and invested right along with you Kolakowsi.

The Ram Army Box should already be a good investment, as with that you get 4 squads of Skeletons of Annellitia and 4 Skull Demons. Then you also get an upcoming Unique Squad, a Huge Unique Hero.
(The only units in that box we have not uses are the purple gargoyle things, because we found them extremely and annoyingly fragile.)

The Wolfen Army Box should release after the Large Expansion and it has the two Unique heroes that are in playtesting right now and 4 Unique Squads that work together like nothing else in scape so far...we have had to really test and test these guys to get them right...but I'm convinced the public will be pleased with the results. Plus you get 3 squads of Animae Sylvestres (http://www.miniaturemarket.com/confrontation-wolfen-of-yllia-animae-sylvestres-unit-box.html). So rest assured your investments will be vindicated in time.

-ZB

[dafe31]

I'm still in. A blue dragon is a blue dragon.

[Rocktroll]

Im in Porkins, just tell me when ( even before you order) And Ill forward you what ever you think one might cost plus shipping. Even if it comes out more, Ill just send you a second paypal for the difference. Remember if I send you $10 you only receive like $9.60 or so due to paypal fees ( unless I send it as a gift)

[Johngee]

I'm still in too for two; but can you still get the Free Shipping if they're coming from Germany?

[Porkins]

I'd prefer that payments be sent as gifts since I'm gifting you my time and effort to get this done. Otherwise I end up losing a bunch to Paypal fees.

They're coming from Utah, not Germany.

[Xotli]

Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought ([/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkRed][COLOR=Black][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT=Times New Roman]) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain?

As others have responded, once we announce the mini, that figure/those figures absolutely positively will be used. Now, if availability drops suddenly, we may have to announce that such and such a figure/figures are acceptable proxies. That's the extent of any possible "changes."

As for the Bullyland dragon, let's put the brakes on the panic, peeps. ;) Unlike the Confrontation figures, this is not an out-of-print mini. This is an in-print, currently in-production figure. Perhaps it's just a question of waiting for this model to be restocked.

As for the alternate version, it does appear to be ever-so-slightly different. For one thing, it has fewer horns. ;) But I'm sure it's an acceptable proxy. However, before we go for the alternate, we may want to try to contact the company to see if they will be able to restock the original figure.

[kolakoski]

Now I am afraid that I have acted prematurely. If the figures I bought ([/font][/font][/color][/color][/font][/size]Ram and Wolfen Army Boxes[size=3][font=Times New Roman][color=DarkRed][color=Black][font=Comic Sans MS][font=Times New Roman]) become rare/unavailable between now and when their Wave is created, will they have been purchased in vain?

As others have responded, once we announce the mini, that figure/those figures absolutely positively will be used. Now, if availability drops suddenly, we may have to announce that such and such a figure/figures are acceptable proxies. That's the extent of any possible "changes."



Well met!

I'm 8) with this. In fact, I'm Goin' In Whole Hog (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/blog.php?b=2069)!

[UtahScott]

I'm in for something, gotta compare the two first, will respond tomorrow.

[UtahScott]

At this point, I'd prefer the "original" instead of the alternate, which are down to three. If I can have one of the three, then I'm in at this point. If you've already ordered, and included one for me (either model), then I'll pay for it.
If we can get any more info from TGF as to how often/how many they can reorder, I'd like the clarification.

Porkins, they're slightly different models, the alternate has fewer horns, more prominent teeth, a narrower wingspan; the webs of the wings are different.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Good News:



Hi Shawn! Thanks for your interest! More of the Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise figure should arrive in stock mid to late August. Unfortunately there may be a slight price increase for this item once the next shipment arrives. How many are you interested in? Please let us know at your convenience.

Thanks,
Kevin
T.G.F. Toys
Customer Service
www.tgftoys.com





So it looks like they will be re-stocking...but our demand may raise the price slightly...that's capitalism for ya :smile:

[UtahScott]

How many are you interested in? Please let us know at your convenience.EXACTLY what I wanted to hear!

This is the perfect reason for a front-page poll, to have people sign up for Big Blue.
How many do you think would be good, ZB -- 50 to start?

[Arch-vile]

Talk about good customer service! This company is small enough to know what it is doing.

I have a nice looking proxy, though, not as official looking as this one. Mega Bloks did a "plasma dragons" thing a few years ago and I happen to have the blue one. I can post pics if anyone is interested.

[Porkins]

I'm still willing to part out the dragons, if most people want to wait until the August re-stock...and price increase. So far, we barely have enough interest to get to $50, so I'm not seeing us get to 50 dragons...

[Glacier_Traverse]

Hi,
First time poster and not sure if this is the relevant thread but, what's the news on Locksley? Was he taken out of play testing? Is he being redesigned?

[robbdaman]

Hi,
First time poster and not sure if this is the relevant thread but, what's the news on Locksley? Was he taken out of play testing? Is he being redesigned?

He's still being worked on is about all I can say. Rest assured he will be used.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Hi,
First time poster and not sure if this is the relevant thread but, what's the news on Locksley? Was he taken out of play testing? Is he being redesigned?

Welcome to Scapers GT...glad you like what you see from the C3V/SoV.

Check out the Welcome to C3V (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=36852)thread and it should help answer qustions you may have.

We are always glad to answer questions, if you have any.

-ZB

[Hive Lord 1233]

I defiantly want a blue Drake of my own; its Wymlings are getting lonely! :cry:

['Scaper94]

I'm a bit confused - Is the "Nidhog" unit going to be that big (ugly) cyclops thing? Or a dragon? I remember there was discussion of the origin of the name, and it's Norse or something, which makes me think it's going to be a dragon. Just wondering.

[Xotli]

I'm still willing to part out the dragons, if most people want to wait until the August re-stock...and price increase. So far, we barely have enough interest to get to $50, so I'm not seeing us get to 50 dragons...

I'm cool with waiting until August. That's just tomorrow, right? :D

Perhaps by then we'll have more people signed up, too.

[Arch-vile]

I'm a bit confused - Is the "Nidhog" unit going to be that big (ugly) cyclops thing? Or a dragon? I remember there was discussion of the origin of the name, and it's Norse or something, which makes me think it's going to be a dragon. Just wondering.

Valkrill's dragon. It was initially going to be the dracolich from castle raveloft I think.

[Nirek]

I too will wait. No problem.

I'm still willing to part out the dragons, if most people want to wait until the August re-stock...and price increase. So far, we barely have enough interest to get to $50, so I'm not seeing us get to 50 dragons...

I'm cool with waiting until August. That's just tomorrow, right? :D

Perhaps by then we'll have more people signed up, too.

[Arch-vile]

Lets see then... large expansions have 5 figures.

Quahon (Blue Dragon)
Racheim (Chimaera)
Deathcommander Mark 3 (Soulborg)
Augamo (Maug the Soccer Player)
Bramcephys (Cyclops)

Unless the Soulborg is swapped for The Great Skull, that's the most obvious guess, imo. It'll probably come pretty soon too, since all those guys are in playtesting!

[Viegon]

Lets see then... large expansions have 5 figures.

Quahon (Blue Dragon)
Racheim (Chimaera)
Deathcommander Mark 3 (Soulborg)
Augamo (Maug the Soccer Player)
Bramcephys (Cyclops)

Unless the Soulborg is swapped for The Great Skull, that's the most obvious guess, imo. It'll probably come pretty soon too, since all those guys are in playtesting!


I agree with all of them, but wonder if Bramcephys will have to take a rain check because he is put on hold right now. Replace the Cyclops with the Great Skull and there is the standard five large figures released in a large expansion.

Hey guys, while I love to see speculation going on, I don't think this is quite the right thread for it. :)

[Arch-vile]

edit- Sorry Viegon, I'll switch threads.

[Hive Lord 1233]

Lets see then... large expansions have 5 figures.

Quahon (Blue Dragon)
Racheim (Chimaera)
Deathcommander Mark 3 (Soulborg)
Augamo (Maug the Soccer Player)
Bramcephys (Cyclops)

Unless the Soulborg is swapped for The Great Skull, that's the most obvious guess, imo. It'll probably come pretty soon too, since all those guys are in playtesting!

Bu- bu-

Where you get names? :explode:

[ZBeeblebrox]

Lets see then... large expansions have 5 figures.

Quahon (Blue Dragon)
Racheim (Chimaera)
Deathcommander Mark 3 (Soulborg)
Augamo (Maug the Soccer Player)
Bramcephys (Cyclops)

Unless the Soulborg is swapped for The Great Skull, that's the most obvious guess, imo. It'll probably come pretty soon too, since all those guys are in playtesting!

Bu- bu-

Where you get names? :explode:

C3V Public Playtesting Sign-up (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=33397)

[Hive Lord 1233]

Lets see then... large expansions have 5 figures.

Quahon (Blue Dragon)
Racheim (Chimaera)
Deathcommander Mark 3 (Soulborg)
Augamo (Maug the Soccer Player)
Bramcephys (Cyclops)

Unless the Soulborg is swapped for The Great Skull, that's the most obvious guess, imo. It'll probably come pretty soon too, since all those guys are in playtesting!

Bu- bu-

Where you get names? :explode:

C3V Public Playtesting Sign-up (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=33397)

Well, I guess the Deathcommander is obvious.... :lol:

[awesomeunleashed]

Any word on if previous playtests count for C3VRP? I have 7 previous playtests, so it's pretty substantial decision for me... Not that I guess it matters at the moment... :lol:

[ZBeeblebrox]

ATTENTION:


Another Huge Figure to be added to the C3V! (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1654826#post1654826)

[Porkins]

Good News:



Hi Shawn! Thanks for your interest! More of the Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise figure should arrive in stock mid to late August. Unfortunately there may be a slight price increase for this item once the next shipment arrives. How many are you interested in? Please let us know at your convenience.

Thanks,
Kevin
T.G.F. Toys
Customer Service
www.tgftoys.com





So it looks like they will be re-stocking...but our demand may raise the price slightly...that's capitalism for ya :smile:

Have you gotten any other response or information from TGF Toys? They never responded to me.

[ZBeeblebrox]

Good News:



Hi Shawn! Thanks for your interest! More of the Bullyland Dragon Flying Turquoise figure should arrive in stock mid to late August. Unfortunately there may be a slight price increase for this item once the next shipment arrives. How many are you interested in? Please let us know at your convenience.

Thanks,
Kevin
T.G.F. Toys
Customer Service
www.tgftoys.com



So it looks like they will be re-stocking...but our demand may raise the price slightly...that's capitalism for ya :smile:

Have you gotten any other response or information from TGF Toys? They never responded to me.

Nope, I have not heard anything else...i'll look into it.

[Toogwick_tuk]

OOOH!!! Yes!!! I actually got 2 of those guys already.

[Arch-vile]

Well, cool. That's a nice mini. All the Pathfinder minis are pretty good actually.

I guess the Deathcommander just got booted out of the Large Expansion... unless we are getting 2 Large Expansions :twisted:

[ZBeeblebrox]

Well, cool. That's a nice mini. All the Pathfinder minis are pretty good actually.

I guess the Deathcommander just got booted out of the Large Expansion... unless we are getting 2 Large Expansions :twisted:

Keep on speculating...but i'll say we have lots of designs going thru the C3V process...so you never know what figures we are going to put into a Wave. ;)