Large D&D Wave Custom Project: Recruiting

[LordEsenwienIV]

Well since we’ve been having so many new waves coming out how about a new type of wave.



Large/Huge D&D Wave




This will be just a regular wave except that instead of having mostly small and medium figures it only has large and huge figures. There can also be more than 4 boosters.


If you would like to help out with this custom project tell me.

1. LordEsenwienIV
2. chaoserver
3. flameslayer93
4. Good Pig
5. Marroking1
6. Jahosaphat
7. ----------
8. ----------
9. ----------
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I look forward to making this new wave!!!


LordEsenwienIV

[LordEsenwienIV]

Booster 1:
Dragons of the lost era
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/adult_brown_dragon.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dangerousdelves_gallery/young_gold_dragon.jpg
Booster 2:
Demons
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/balor.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/beholder_ultimate_tyrant.jpg
Booster 3:
Dragons of the Unknown
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/elder_iron_dragon.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dw/Stormrage_Blue_Dragon.jpg
Booster 4:
Titans
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/storm_titan.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/leg_evil_gallery/frost_titan.jpg
Booster 5:
Giants of Korth
Pics to come
Booster 6:
Heroes of Doom
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dw/Ettin_Spirit-Talker.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dw/Thoon_Hulk.jpg

[LordEsenwienIV]

The bolded boosters will be the boosters we will start with.

Booster 1:

Dragons of the lost era

Booster 2:

Demons

Booster 3:

Dragons of the Unknown

Booster 4:

Titans

Booster 5:

Giants of Korth

Booster 6:

Heroes of Doom

[chaoserver]

I am totally down for this I just ordered a few figures which include(death titan, Fire titan, earth titan, storm titan) So I would be happy to do pics/cards for any of those.

[LordEsenwienIV]

I am totally down for this I just ordered a few figures which include(death titan, Fire titan, earth titan, storm titan) So I would be happy to do pics/cards for any of those.


Great I'll add you to the list!

[LordEsenwienIV]

Added pics to second post. More people wanted.

[flameslayer93]

Sure I'll sign on, I likely won't be heavily invested, but I'll provide my input.

[chaoserver]

To clarify these are the ones I have/will have figs for:
Balor(already have and made a card- but will re make card with some edits)
Death Titan
http://hive.crystalcommerce.com/photo/file/552/42456/large/Against_the_Giants_-_050_Death_Titan.jpg
Earth Titan
http://www.rpgminiatures.com/acatalog/earth_Titan.jpg
Fire Titan
http://www.legendgames.co.uk/acatalog/Fire_Titan.jpg
Storm Titan
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/WOC/WOC25064-37_500.jpeg
Thundertusk cavalry
http://www.vesivus.com/eBay/dndminis/BW_Thundertusk_Cavalry.jpg
hellcat
http://www.vesivus.com/eBay/dndminis/BW_Hellcat.jpg
bladerager troll
http://www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_01/bladerager_troll.jpg
couatl
http://store02.prostores.com/auggiesgames/catalog/02a.jpg
remorhaz
http://www.rpgminiatures.com/acatalog/remorhaz.jpg
fettered dracolich
http://www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_05/fettered_dracolich.jpg
draegloth abomination
http://www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_05/draegoloth_abomination.jpg
Let me know which you want me to do- obviously quite a few here.

[marroking1]

Would love to help desigh these figures cards.

[Good Pig]

I've got cards I've made for 4 of the D&D Othkurik sized dragons, 1 large elemental and a trebuchet. You're welcome to use any of them or give me feedback on them and help me to improve them.

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/brown-dragon.jpghttp://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/iron-dragon.jpghttp://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/green-dragon.jpghttp://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/deep-dragon.jpghttp://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/greater-air-elemental.jpghttp://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y349/uploads10/trebuchet.jpg

[chaoserver]

Ok so I did a preliminary version of Earth Titan- Bit of a new mechanic with his first ability I wanted to use. And then Earth elementals underground movement. As it stands he is is a big earth elemental and comprable to original drake as far as points and upping def instead of ATK.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/EARTHTITAN-1.jpg

Also here is the uncommon hero, bladerager troll. For some reason I was under the impression he had the persistant ability in DnD which inspired me to buy him- but when I checked again he doesn't seem to. Regardless I made the card- A tormented Troll which will fight ferociously, even after receiving a fatal blow. He may not make the cut for the wave but I'm open for suggestions to modify him if we want to include him.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/BLADERAGERTROLL.jpg

[LordEsenwienIV]

@chaoserver: I like all the figs you listed. I have a feeling we will use most of them. Your customs are good though I think that the Earth Titan should be much stronger

@Good Pig: Love the customs. Maybe only some minor adjustments.

[chaoserver]

lets figure out which we want to use heres the generals I am thinking as well:
Death Titan- valkrill
Earth titan- Einar
Fire Titan- Utgar
Storm titan- Jandar or aquilla?
Warforged hero- Vydar
Thundertusk cavalry- aquilla
hellcat- Aquilla or Vydar?
bladerager troll-utgar
couatl- aquilla
flame snake- utgar
giant centipede- aquilla?
remorhaz- ?
Fettered dracolich- Valkrill
abomination- should be valkrill but rest of drow are utgar

And Im not sure, earth is pretty powerful, the ability to obliterate a range pod or approaching melee is fairly potent, he probably needs playtesting but I think his decent survivablity/ability to pack a punch to a large area is impressive. If you mean he should be more points and more powerful- in DnD he is the weakest titan, so I didn't want to get too carried away.

[LordEsenwienIV]

lets figure out which we want to use heres the generals I am thinking as well:
Death Titan- valkrill
Earth titan- Einar
Fire Titan- Utgar
Storm titan- aquilla
Warforged hero- Vydar
Thundertusk cavalry- aquilla
hellcat- Vydar
bladerager troll-utgar
couatl- aquilla
flame snake- utgar
giant centipede- utgar
remorhaz- Vydar
Fettered dracolich- Valkrill
abomination- Valkrill


I think that the Earth Titan should have an earthquake SA. Just my 2 cents.

[marroking1]

lets figure out which we want to use heres the generals I am thinking as well:
Death Titan- valkrill
Earth titan- Einar
Fire Titan- Utgar
Storm titan- aquilla
Warforged hero- Vydar
Thundertusk cavalry- aquilla
hellcat- Vydar
bladerager troll-utgar
couatl- aquilla
flame snake- utgar
giant centipede- utgar
remorhaz- Vydar
Fettered dracolich- Valkrill
abomination- Valkrill


I think that the Earth Titan should have an earthquake SA. Just my 2 cents.
The Earth Titan to me should be a advanced Earth elemental. With the abilitie like him accept it is all figures within 2 spaces. And my 2 cents

[chaoserver]

It basically is a buffed earth elemental. And Tremor is earthquake basically- He strikes an unoccupied area and causes an earthquake in the area. If you think he should be more powerful, could raise points by ten or twenty and give him an extra life?

Edit: I really like Earth Titan's Tremor attack, what I'm not sure on is if he should have his burrow or needs any stats changed.

[Chardar]

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/Chardar94/Heroscape%20customs/Balorcomplete.jpg

This is a bit of a shameless plug, but I did a custom for the Balor awhile back. It's been critiqued and tested already. So if your not bent on doing everything from scratch you could use this. If not you could get some ideas from it anyway.

[marroking1]

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/Chardar94/Heroscape%20customs/Balorcomplete.jpg

This is a bit of a shameless plug, but I did a custom for the Balor awhile back. It's been critiqued and tested already. So if your not bent on doing everything from scratch you could use this. If not you could get some ideas from it anyway.
Wow he is exspensive.:shock: But he has the powers to back it up.

[Chardar]

He's been pretty thoroughly tested. He has a thread dedicated to him. If your interested I'll dig it up for you.

[chaoserver]

Interesting thats pretty similar to http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/BALOR-1.jpg
mines just a bit of a watered down version heh.

On a different note I'm thinking this for the 180 point fire titan:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/FIRETITAN-1.jpg.
Basic but fun, a walking lava field.

[jahosaphat]

@chaoserver: I like all the figs you listed. I have a feeling we will use most of them. Your customs are good though I think that the Earth Titan should be much stronger

So I think that you could adapt the two powers into one. So your saying you want a beefed up earth titan, so give him both his powers. Something like, instead of moving normally, move to an unoccupied space up to four spaces away. Once ending movement roll for tremor aka Earthquake. Its like I'm here everyone gets hit kind of statement.
Could give him a second ability with that.


I think that the Earth Titan should have an earthquake SA. Just my 2 cents.

Tremor is earthquake


The Earth Titan to me should be a advanced Earth elemental. With the abilitie like him accept it is all figures within 2 spaces. And my 2 cents
I agree, 3 spaces is a lot! The Hydra's reach is 2 spaces, my 2 cents stick with 2 spaces.

On a different note I'm thinking this for the 180 point fire titan:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/FIRETITAN-1.jpg.
Basic but fun, a walking lava field.[/QUOTE]

I like him. Again, how about only 2 spaces affected. For 180, how about adding attack when in lava or higher attack?

[flameslayer93]

Or you could drop the titian's life to 6 and see where that leads.

[chaoserver]

Fire Titan: The problem is at six life or a smaller aura, is that I feel the Fire titan becomes much worse than say nifflem or arguably the cheaper fire giant shurrak. The seven life is to ensure he gets at least one round of immolation before dying- which may or may not be broken. I would playtest either change and this version and ask others to do the same to confirm either way. If he is lackluster after any changes to immolation wave some lava related buff would be cool, additional attack, or something else we can think of.

Earth Titan: Three is a lot, but you are basically drafting him for that power, and he has low life so disengaging is not so easy. Still with playtesting tremor may need a nerf(I'm thinking drop in the range, more points, and some more life). Your right that the Hydra has only a range of 2, however it can also maul a single figure with all its attacks, and has more defense, if Earth was at 2 it would be overtly worse than the Hydra unless nearly completely surrounded, no? The goal is for neither to be better or worse, just different.

Edit- I will probably wait until these figures come in-Hopefully today or monday before playtesting.

[LordEsenwienIV]

Okay everyone now we make our first descision:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/BALOR-1.jpg
or
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/Chardar94/Heroscape%20customs/Balorcomplete.jpg

[chaoserver]

Mines probably not perfect(though he playtested fine recently) but I think point should be capped somewhere around 225, no?

[LordEsenwienIV]

I personnaly like the second one better because when I think of Balor I think of someone extremely strong that can tear through thousand point armies.

[chaoserver]

Whatever everyone decides is cool but I think 400+ is a little much, balanced or not. We should probably make a new one what is a middle ground. Torkulna is a pretty potent one man army and not quite so pricey.
I do like the more limited move on the second one, makes me think of a lumbering beast. One who can own Cyprien...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0130.jpg

[LordEsenwienIV]

For the second one I say we take away chain lightning and add Demon Bonding

[Chardar]

For the second one I say we take away chain lightning and add Demon Bonding

Balor's are meant to be single encounters. Even though they are the lord of demons they are encountered alone. This guy isn't meant to be in an army, he's meant to be an army. So I would rather not add bonding of any sort.

[LordEsenwienIV]

For the second one I say we take away chain lightning and add Demon Bonding

Balor's are meant to be single encounters. Even though they are the lord of demons they are encountered alone. This guy isn't meant to be in an army, he's meant to be an army. So I would rather not add bonding of any sort.

I did not know this.

Are there more than one Balors?

[Chardar]

I believe so, but they are almost always solo encounters. Just like Beholders.

[marroking1]

I think that the first one is more heroscape to me. With a hero in your army thats 425 points you dont have much left to fit in your army. So I am going to go with the first one.

[jahosaphat]

Okay everyone now we make our first descision:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/BALOR-1.jpg


I really like the first one, but actually think his points should be higher. He can basically go to any map, find the highest point, and whip heros to himself. With high ground attack with almost all six dice being skulls. After also rolling the 20 to inflict a wound.
Basically, he is the biggest target. Opponent one says, "o, its my turn, I use Balor, grab hero, roll d20, wound, roll six dice, oops I only rolled three skulls, let me re-roll these other three, got five skulls total, how many shields you get?" opponent two says, "2" Wow, inflicted 4 wounds.
But, not a beast, that needs to be changed. If you raise his points, add 1 move, and may be 1 defense, play test needed. And his actual sculpt would go better as the HUGE 12. Just my opinion.

[chaoserver]

I forget how I determined 9, but I think that's about what he is from some comparison. I don't think he needs more move regardless of if his points are increased though- Wouldn't he be able to plop on the maps highest point even easier? From playtests he has bashed heroes, but even against melee squads was obliterated, especially by dwarves. Try him out, he's good and demonic accuracy is an incredible power but I'm not sure if he should be more points- He's mean to be a big target hero buster afterall- if you steer heroes clear of him he usually won't come close to his points. And yeah, he definitely shouldn't be a beast lol, this card was made well before first playtests with him :D

[chaoserver]

My bad on double posting but figures came in today and are definitely narrowing down options. Despite the pics the centipede and fire snake a TINY and the warforged hero is only slightly bigger than other warforged- so the three of them are out. Coatl is definitely a large but will need a deathwalker base. Generally speaking the sculpts are great! Earth Titan may need a buff after seeing how absolutely huge he is haha.

[flameslayer93]

I'd get rid of the free wound from Flame Whip and raise his cost to 180.

[chaoserver]

While we are deciding on Balor, I made changes to the cards I previously shared here based on comments/judgement. All figures came in and most are rebased. I must say that the Fire Titan and Storm Titan were extremely challenging to get off their original bases/rebase to the point you need good tools, endurance, and patience. I will have pics shortly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/FIRETITAN.jpg
Heeding advice I dropped down his aura/points to be a reliable but unique unit with fair longevity.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/EARTHTITAN-3.jpg
A buff to points and stats as suggested. His sculpt is truly titanic, thick and heavy, while still standing above even Jotun yet he is still supposed to be weakest of the titans.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/DEATHTITAN.jpg
Valkrill has obtained a worthy minion in the Death Titan. Physically formidable but also designed to use his opponent's reaped souls in unholy ways, by healing his own wounds, or destroying those souls allies. He will need playtesting given this new mechanic for sure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/STORMTITAN.jpg
Designed to be the most powerful of the titans, I knew he would be in the 190-210 bracket. His howling winds was hard to translate decently to heroscape, and given his ability to fly and being equipped with range it is what separates him from Nif for example. He will need to be play tested as well as anything with flying and range.

[LordEsenwienIV]

I really like how they look chaos!!!

[Boodog]

I really like the Titans. Do they fit well on the peanut bases?

[dok]

I really like the Titans. Do they fit well on the peanut bases?Some do, some do not. It really depends on their stance and whether the sculpt has a bunch of crap around the feet.

The Earth Titan and Frost Titan both fit wonderfully on a wide peanut. So does Balor. The Fire and Storm Titans have crap around their feet that make them much harder to fit.

Some of the figures suggested here are actually large, not huge. Just browse through the huge figures (http://ddmdb.com/sizes/5) at the DDM Database to get a sense of what's out there. If the figure has two feet that touch the base in a reasonably wide stance, and nothing else touching the base, then it fits on a peanut. (The Treant is the only exception because its feet are just too wide.)

[chaoserver]

I have based them all, it is an absolute EPIC task to properly debase storm and fire titan, death titan is hard too but doesn't take hours. Earth is easy.

As far as actually fitting, storm overlaps it but it still looks very good from above, again debasing him is extremely difficult. Fire fits well and barely overlaps, Death Titan fits very naturally, and Earth is again the easiest fit.

[Chardar]

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/Chardar94/Heroscape%20customs/IMGP1001.jpg?t=1266878010

Here's a picture of how the Balor fits on a peanut base.

[Boodog]

So far, I've been able to base the Death Titan, Storm Titan and Frost Titan.

After I rebased the Storm Titan, I felt ... mighty...

I noticed my Death Titan leans too much to one side, but I'm thinking I can compensate for that by a well-placed and well-based, uhh, that cloud thing around him that looks like snot. (let's call it death-snot).

Earth Titan is on the way, but Fire and Warforged are going to have to wait :/

[MrWookiee]

Can I please help?

[chaoserver]

Can I please help?

I am looking for playesters for mine, and if you want to help with any other the ones who don't yet have cards, by all means. I will take pictures of mine now.

Btw, goodluck on Fire Titan basing, while he fits a lot nicer on a base, and looks like he should be an easy debase, he is absolutely vicious to get off, took a VERY long time sawing him off.

[chaoserver]

Some pics of the figures, a few were lacking and will update in the future.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0140.jpg
Balor with some PK's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0143.jpg
The ever epic Storm Titan reigning down his power upon the battlefield.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0144.jpg
Fire Titan dwarfing Isamu.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0146.jpg
Fettered Dracolich

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0147.jpg
Earth Titan being huge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0148.jpg
Remorhaz getting ready to chomp on a vampire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0149.jpg
The very cool Death Titan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0152.jpg
Thundertusk cavalry, I have his card done and will put it up soon enough.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0154.jpg
Coatl, bad pic though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/konkara/IMG_0156.jpg
Vydar's(or maybe Jandar's) Hellcat.

[Boodog]

Those pics are ... epic.

Do any of the Cavalry units fit on peanut bases? Like Zhent Cavalry, etc.? I'm trying to find some poor-man's Templar Cav.

[Taeblewalker]

I like them. I am wondering if the range on the Earth Titan's and Fire Titan's specials are a bit much, especially since there is no height differential limit.

[chaoserver]

Fire definitely is no issue, as his aura was reduced to 2 in the most recent version posted. Earth? Well, he needs playtesting.