Behind the Fortifications

[timmytubby]

I have recently bought the new castle set. However, the rules for the battlements are very unclear. I understand the height and the shooting from behind aspects, but the book says nothing about chractors shoot from the outside, to the inside.
Question is, can a figure behind a battlement still be shot at, and how does this work? [/i]

[Jim]

As long as any part of the target figure's hit zone can be seen by the attacker, and if the target is in range, then it may be hit.

Jim

[Aranas]

As long as any part of the target figure's hit zone can be seen by the attacker, and if the target is in range, then it may be hit.

Jim
As simple as that!


Aranas

[Jim]

By the way, welcome to the forums timmytubby!

Jim

[Revdyer]

Welcome, indeed, timmytubby!

[Homba]

It is often hard to see/target a fig behind the battlements - if there is a targetable area you can see through the cracks, it's going to be tiny. I've seen at least one other comment here to that effect.

Your group may differ, but my group does not play HS to lean over the table 100 times a game eyeballing LOS. That's not our idea of a good time. We've houseruled that if they're on the wall and they can shoot you, you can shoot them. If the defender is on top the wall right up there adjacent to the battlement, they're fair game. Now if there's room to stand back with a whole empty hex between them and the battlement, someone down on the ground is not likely to be able to see them, and we check LOS to confirm this if it's an issue.

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[Tiberius]

I can see it from both points of view, it definately makes things less frustrating your way Homba, but it does take away the power of the figure's hit zone. Some have larger hit zones than others and I think that is taken into account in thier cost and makes the unit slightly more or less effective in certain situations.

[EyeOfSauron]

We play with the "partial cover" house rule.

A figure behind a battlement may be attacked if the attacking figure has LOS to any part of him, but if at least 50% is not visible (which will usually be the case with a battlement), the figure gets +1 defense.

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[KaimasterJoe]

I think then if you use that house rule you defeat the purpose of the battlement. They were intended to provide cover and make it hard to shoot the defender of the caste. Hence the attacker can lean over and use the slits for vantage points in LOS and the ground defender does not. Small lesson in old age warefare.

[ASmiles]

Your group may differ, but my group does not play HS to lean over the table 100 times a game eyeballing LOS. That's not our idea of a good time.

Sounds like your group needs to buy a laser pointer. No leaning. LOS is determined without fuss or argument.

[umuhiforgot]

As long as you can see their hit zone they are free game.

A house rule that we play with is that for every 10 high on a wall you cannot shoot 1 space out. If you are on a castle that is 20 high then you cannot attack 2 spaces out from that wall. It really makes the game challenging. Plus, LOS doesn't work at that close range anyways.

[Bixby]

Welcome TimmyTubby.

The castles indeed provide good cover. As teh others have stated, LOS rules are what arbitrates whether an attack can be made. We have the same house rule that EyeOfSauron uses. Being playing with a cover rule for a couple of years now and it works well. Short figs on the castle wall with ranged attacks are VERY effective.


Hope that helps. Enjoy the heroscapers community.

[NecroBlade]

I think then if you use that house rule you defeat the purpose of the battlement. They were intended to provide cover and make it hard to shoot the defender of the caste. Hence the attacker can lean over and use the slits for vantage points in LOS and the ground defender does not. Small lesson in old age warefare.Exactly the point I was going to make :D

Sounds like your group needs to buy a laser pointer. No leaning. LOS is determined without fuss or argument.*Makes himself a note to get a laser pointer* Thanks!

[Rÿchean]

Sounds like your group needs to buy a laser pointer. No leaning. LOS is determined without fuss or argument.

Or a telescoping pocket mirror; these work great.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/d5/af/ab_1_b.JPG

Here in Texas, you can pick these up at Auto Zone for about $3.

[KaimasterJoe]

I think then if you use that house rule you defeat the purpose of the battlement. They were intended to provide cover and make it hard to shoot the defender of the caste. Hence the attacker can lean over and use the slits for vantage points in LOS and the ground defender does not. Small lesson in old age warefare.Exactly the point I was going to make :D

Sounds like your group needs to buy a laser pointer. No leaning. LOS is determined without fuss or argument.*Makes himself a note to get a laser pointer* Thanks!

Thanks for agreeing with me.

[mrbistro]

I use a rubber band to judge LOS. I keep one of those really big rubber bands and snip it so it's like a string. When testing LOS I put one end of the rubber band at the attacker's sight zone (or whatever it's called) and stretch it to the target's hit zone. If I can't touch the target, or the rubber band has to bend around terrain or other figs, I know I don't have LOS. It's super fast, eliminates arguments, and I don't poke my eye out trying to get the "model's eye view."