The C3G Cave - Hangout

[Xn F M]

And no Sinestros available right now. I'll survive.

:whistle:

1 Sinestro #060 DC 75th Anniversary Heroclix 1
2 Super Skrull #091 Unique Marvel Heroclix Supernova 1
3 Arthur Light #210 LE DC Heroclix Collateral Damage 1
4 Gorilla Grodd #071 Experienced DC Heroclix Hypertime 1
5 Hawkman #033 Veteran DC Heroclix Hypertime 1
6 Hydra Medic #010 Rookie Marvel Heroclix Infinity Challenge 3
7 Hydra Medic #012 Veteran Marvel Heroclix Infinity Challenge 2
8 Hydra Operative #008 Experienced Marvel Heroclix Infinity Challenge 1
9 Sauron #091 Unique Marvel Heroclix Xplosion 1
10 Magma #032 Experienced Marvel Heroclix Armor Wars 1
11 Molly Hayes #041 Heroclix Hammer of Thor 1
12 Mister Miracle #071 DC Heroclix Origin Experience 1
13 Scarlet Witch #054 Veteran Marvel Heroclix Fantastic Forces 1
14 Kree Warrior #009 Veteran Marvel Heroclix Critical Mass 3
15 Kree Colonel #003 Veteran Marvel Heroclix Supernova 1
16 Kree Captain #002 Experienced Marvel Heroclix Supernova 3
17 Kree Warrior #001 Rookie Marvel Heroclix Supernova 6

I even got lucky enough to snag an FF Super Skrull, I haven't seen one of those in stock for months. :D

[Lord Pyre]

Well, I was going for the $2 Sinestro, not the $60 one. You're off the hook. ;)

[Xn F M]

Well, I was going for the $2 Sinestro, not the $60 one. You're off the hook. ;)

the $60 dollar one is the older one. the DC75 one is only 29.99. :P

[Scapemage]

Well, I was going for the $2 Sinestro, not the $60 one. You're off the hook. ;)

the $60 dollar one is the older one. the DC75 one is only 29.99. :P
Right now. I pulled one from my brick, along with a WL Hal Jordan (ARV=$55), and 3 other Super-Rares. :p

I traded Wonder Woman on Horseback and my WL Hal for Super-Rare Doomsday (he's a big guy, with a sick Superman flag, ripped over a post), Super-Rare Batman (depicting a scene, Batman with suprisingly pointy ears swings through the sky, holding a man in his arm), and some lanterns I was missing. Good deal IMO.

[tcglkn]

I got the 2 dollar one. He needs a paint job though. :D

I recently made a couple purchases too. Got a bunch of Moloids, Multiple Men, Civilians, Red Tornado, Hawkgirl (she got dropped from my last order), and terrain. Oh and a bunch of C3V units I can't talk about. :twisted:

[Lord Pyre]

Well, I was going for the $2 Sinestro, not the $60 one. You're off the hook. ;)

the $60 dollar one is the older one. the DC75 one is only 29.99. :P
Right now. I pulled one from my brick, along with a WL Hal Jordan (ARV=$55), and 3 other Super-Rares. :p

NICE! That figure is amazing looking, I just can't justify spending more than $5 on a figure. :p

Once I get the purply one, I'm just going to repaint him.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

For the record, WL Hal is selling for $85-89. I would have traded you most of the other stuff you want for him! :shock:

[Scapemage]

For the record, WL Hal is selling for $85-89. I would have traded you most of the other stuff you want for him! :shock:
On HCRealms people are valueing it around $55. I haven't seen any online stores selling it for more than $60 though...

Plus, after my trade with that guy, I have everyone from 75th I want.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Troll and toad is selling him for that price. I am not talking about what they will pay for one, but rather what they charge for one. I got two identical cases, so duplicates- I got 'em!

[tcglkn]

Nice, so far the best pull I've had was the 35 dollar Deadpool. I don't buy many boosters though, occasionally I'll pick one up from my local game store if they have them on sale just for fun.

[Boromir_and_kermit]

Some images of new Cyclops and Emma Frost sculpts.

Cyclops
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs712.snc4/63267_1754043695349_1366623338_1911738_440427_n.jpg

Emma Frost
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs953.snc4/74674_1754735152635_1366623338_1912728_4538444_n.jpg

I haven't seen these around, so I hope they are news to someone. Cyclops sculpt looks cool. Better than the most popular one right now I think. Hard to tell with the photo though.

Cheers,
Ben.

[Good Pig]

Cool! The Emma Frost is much better than the one I have. I like that Cyclops too.

Some of the older Heroclix girl figures are just plain ugly. The worst one I can think of is probably Kitty Pryde. <shudder>

[Griffin]

Psyloke is one of the worst actually. How they took one of the hottest chicks in Marvel and made her that ugly..... :reapershrug:

That new Emma Frost looks like it will definitely be the one we choose when we do. I would bet on that. :up:

[Good Pig]

That old Psylocke is damn ugly, but I think Kitty has got her beat. :razz:

I've got the new Psylocke with the purple hood and robe. She looks pretty good. Got a write up idea for her that I've been meaning to post.

[Lord Pyre]

I think Elektra gets the prize for worst looking figure. Seriously, she has like 5 of them, and not one looks decent. :p

I actually repainted my Elektra, gave her an entire jumpsuit, to try to hide how bad the figure is. :p

[Boromir_and_kermit]

Elektra is a terrible figure... *sigh*

[Griffin]

That old Psylocke is damn ugly, but I think Kitty has got her beat. :razz:

I've got the new Psylocke with the purple hood and robe. She looks pretty good. Got a write up idea for her that I've been meaning to post.
Yeah, I have the hooded one too, and your right that it does look good. However, it doesn't look like iconic Psylocke in the costume. They really need to give her another figure.

[Hidicul]

I've been watching The cape, and so far it's pretty dang good.

[Hahma]

Yeah, The Cape was different than I expected and better too. I really enjoyed it.

[A3n]

Yeah, The Cape was different than I expected and better too. I really enjoyed it.

Well I'm going to look for that one then.

Cheers

[SirGalahad]

Yeah, The Cape was different than I expected and better too. I really enjoyed it.

Well I'm going to look for that one then.

Cheers

Do you get American network television down there?

[GreyOwl]

You can get pretty much any show on the Internet...

[SirGalahad]

You can get pretty much any show on the Internet...

Only when my kids aren't updating their iPods. :lol:

[Karat]

The way the set it up reminded me a lot of the begining of a movie fora superhero. It really drew me in.

[tcglkn]

I saw that and it looked interesting. I'll check it out.

[A3n]

You can get pretty much any show on the Internet...

:D

[GreyOwl]

You can get pretty much any show on the Internet...

:D

Why am I not surprised? :p

[quozl]

Congrats to Griffin for winning the package on the front page of the site!

[Griffin]

I win Heroscape! :D


:lol:

[Margloth]

GREAT CALAMITY KITTENS!

I don't know if any of you fellas follow "Cracked" like I do, but I thought y'all might get a laugh out of this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18943_the-6-most-pointless-supervillain-schemes-ever-hatched.html

[Scapemage]

GREAT CALAMITY KITTENS!

I don't know if any of you fellas follow "Cracked" like I do, but I thought y'all might get a laugh out of this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18943_the-6-most-pointless-supervillain-schemes-ever-hatched.html
I don't get #1, but other than that...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Margloth]

Also (stolen from a post by GreyElephant) fyi:

http://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=015702

$10.99 Fortresses w/ free shipping @ $50.

I can haz city plz?

[Scapemage]

Also (stolen from a post by GreyElephant) fyi:

http://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=015702

$10.99 Fortresses w/ free shipping @ $50.

I can haz city plz?
My FLAGS sells them for $12.99 ea. I almost bought 3 more sets this weekend.

[GreyOwl]

Congrats to Griffin for winning the package on the front page of the site!

Griffin loves a good package.

:p

[Margloth]

Congrats to Griffin for winning the package on the front page of the site!

Griffin loves a good package.

:p
I just wish he'd get his package away from right out front where everyone has to see it.
:twisted:

[A3n]

Congrats to Griffin for winning the package on the front page of the site!

Griffin loves a good package.

:p
I just wish he'd get his package away from right out front where everyone has to see it.
:twisted:

Agreed.

But on a more sombre note please visit here (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1311537&postcount=105) & if you are a praying person, pray.

Cheers

[tcglkn]

My prayers go out to you and all the Austrailians who are affected by this.

[Margloth]

Hope you guys are all ok... keep us updated if you can!

[Lord Pyre]

Wow, that's terrible. I'll keep you in my prayers, also. I wish you well!

[Hahma]

My prayers and best wishes go out for my Aussie buddies and their countrymen and women.

[whitestuff]

I packed my whole family up and went for a drive to see the flood water yesterday (when the flood level was about 17.5m) and it was amazing to see...

This is today... 8:00am
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Then an hour and a half later...
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That's the main road behind him... underwater.

My family is safe. We aren't any any immediate danger.

Please pray for those that are.

[GreyOwl]

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope all of you and your families come out of it okay. Keep us posted.

[A3n]

I packed my whole family up and went for a drive to see the flood water yesterday (when the flood level was about 17.5m) and it was amazing to see...

This is today... 8:00am


Then an hour and a half later...

That's the main road behind him... underwater.

My family is safe. We aren't any any immediate danger.

Please pray for those that are.

How are your people in Toowoomba? Was it your inlaws?

[whitestuff]

I packed my whole family up and went for a drive to see the flood water yesterday (when the flood level was about 17.5m) and it was amazing to see...

This is today... 8:00am


Then an hour and a half later...

That's the main road behind him... underwater.

My family is safe. We aren't any any immediate danger.

Please pray for those that are.

How are your people in Toowoomba? Was it your inlaws?Most of my family are in Toowoomba. We are still trying to get a hold of them. If they were home, none of them should have been in trouble. If they were shopping downtown - well, that would be a different story.

I do wish they would answer their phone...

Did you hear that there are bush-fires in WA?

Man, we live in a strange land. :lol:

[Karat]

You have my prayers as well.

[IAmBatman]

Gees, guys, what a nightmare. Dialing up some prayers for you here as well.

[whitestuff]

Finally got onto our Toowoomba family... they are safe and well.

Thanks for the well-wishes everyone. :D

[tcglkn]

Good news whitey! Thanks for the update.

[DEATHWALKER 1970]

And here in Denmark people complain about flooded basements... my best wishes to our aussie friends!

[Balantai]

When you have floods like this, does the danger of a crocodile attack increase?

[A3n]

When you have floods like this, does the danger of a crocodile attack increase?

Well a croc was sited in the PCYC (Police Citizens Youth Club) park that is a bike park for kids to learn to ride. Normally this is nowhere near the water but now kids could probably learn to drive boats there if they wanted to :p. So kinda yeah, but the areas are blocked off though due to there being water there when there shouldn't be.

Cheers

[Karat]

When you have floods like this, does the danger of a crocodile attack increase?

Well a croc was sited in the PCYC (Police Citizens Youth Club) park that is a bike park for kids to learn to ride. Normally this is nowhere near the water but now kids could probably learn to drive boats there if they wanted to :p. So kinda yeah, but the areas are blocked off though due to there being water there when there shouldn't be.

Cheers
WEll thatt's good, we wouldn't want anyone getting hurt from carelessness or recklessness.

[Balantai]

That sounds pretty scary, A3n. I hope everything turns out okay for everyone Downunder.....water.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I will keep you, and all Aussies in my prayers, A3N and whitey. Reminds me of the scene when Ike hit here last fall ('09).

[Scapemage]

Do any of you have extra clix you haven't rebased (or removed the dial from)? I have found that trading 'clix on HCrealms.com is a great way to acquire hard-to-find figures. I have gotten trade offers for figures I don't really want, and they've included Kilowog, Colossus, tons of old figures (the ones with the dial under the base, essentially worth less), and some other hard-to-find figures. You never know what you'll end up with.

[Scapemage]

Snow day tomorrow! We're supposed to get 8-12 inches, but MA will get hit hard (watch out guys!). Any snow in NY yet Bats?

[tcglkn]

My college classes were supposed to start Monday, but due to local snow, they haven't started and they already canceled tomorrow. :D

[quozl]

Hey, tickle! How do you delete your own posts?

[tcglkn]

It's just an option that comes up for me. I use it when I double post from my iPod.

[whitestuff]

I have no internet at the moment. Don't know when I'll be back...

[IAmBatman]

Yipes - thanks for the heads up, Whitey.
Tons of snow in NY and in MI where I'm at right now. Yet still we hit the road tomorrow! I'll likely be on very little if at all tomorrow.

[whitestuff]

And I'm back...

Only out for a day or so.

[SirGalahad]

Glad to hear it. There was actually coverage about the flooding down there on National Public Radio yesterday.

[Scapemage]

Yipes - thanks for the heads up, Whitey.
Tons of snow in NY and in MI where I'm at right now. Yet still we hit the road tomorrow! I'll likely be on very little if at all tomorrow.
Drive safe (no seriously).

[Balantai]

So has anyone tried DC Universe Online?

[Scapemage]

So has anyone tried DC Universe Online?
You can't yet... it doesn't release until the end of the month. PLus, at $15 a month I doubt I'll play it.

EDIT: I was wrong. It came out yesterday. :woot:

[Balantai]

Griff seems to have went AWOL for the last 2 days. Maybe he picked up DCU Online. :lol:

[GreyOwl]

He's moving and is without Internet for a few days.

[Scapemage]

Griff seems to have went AWOL for last 2 days. Maybe he picked up DCU Online. :lol:
:lol: I've looked into the game, and as soon as we can drive anywhere, I'm going to Gamestop to get DCUO.

[Balantai]

He's moving and is without Internet for a few days.
Well that's what he said..........

:twisted:

[Balantai]

Griff seems to have went AWOL for last 2 days. Maybe he picked up DCU Online. :lol:
:lol: I've looked into the game, and as soon as we can drive anywhere, I'm going to Gamestop to get DCUO.
There's a pretty good chance I'll get the game at some point. I want to give it a bit more time and read the reviews. I've been playing World of Warcraft for 3 years now so I'm a bit spoiled when it comes to MMO's. But I can see suspending my WoW subscription to give this game a try. If you do get the game, start a DCUO thread in the game section and post what server you play on. It'd be nice if all of Heroscapers played on the same server.

[Scapemage]

Griff seems to have went AWOL for last 2 days. Maybe he picked up DCU Online. :lol:
:lol: I've looked into the game, and as soon as we can drive anywhere, I'm going to Gamestop to get DCUO.
There's a pretty good chance I'll get the game at some point. I want to give it a bit more time and read the reviews. I've been playing World of Warcraft for 3 years now so I'm a bit spoiled when it comes to MMO's. But I can see suspending my WoW subscription to give this game a try. If you do get the game, start a DCUO thread in the game section and post what server you play on. It'd be nice if all of Heroscapers played on the same server.
Alright, I just hope we get enough snow this winter so I can pay my monthly fee (shoveling).

[IAmBatman]

I'm back. :-) And hopefully, in the next few days, back to playtesting as well. Though I need to run a few informal tests on some stuff for C3V before I hit any C3G stuff ... not to mention unpacking, catching up on work, and catching up on sleep!

[tcglkn]

Take your time man. Let me know if you want help with the C3V stuff.

[SirGalahad]

Glad to hear you made it through the weather.

[IAmBatman]

Take your time man. Let me know if you want help with the C3V stuff.

Just helping ZB run some informal stuff with JV to tinker with the design some. Not a serious time committment.

Glad to hear you made it through the weather.

Thanks. :-) I love my parents, but it's good to be home.

[Lord Pyre]

Just got my order of figures! Time to break out the paints! :D

[Scapemage]

Just got my order of figures! Time to break out the paints! :D
What did you order that you need to paint? Handful of heroes?

Glad to have you home safe Bats.

[IAmBatman]

I just got my box with FotA, Pandemic, Pandemic: On the Brink, Citadels, Ninja vs. Ninja, Guillotine, and Ticket to Ride: M채rklin. Now I just need to find someone to play with ... :-P

[Lord Pyre]

Just got my order of figures! Time to break out the paints! :D
What did you order that you need to paint? Handful of heroes?

Glad to have you home safe Bats.

Most Heroclix figures have horrendously crappy paint jobs, and I'm very OCD about it. ;)

I just got my box with FotA, Pandemic, Pandemic: On the Brink, Citadels, Ninja vs. Ninja, Guillotine, and Ticket to Ride: M채rklin. Now I just need to find someone to play with ... :razz:

Pandemic is amazing, but I don't have the expansion yet. Citadels is great, and Guillotine is hilarious. I've played one version of Ticket to Ride a while back, and liked it, but I usually prefer Railroad Tycoon.

My quick review. :lol:

[IAmBatman]

The wifey really wanted this version of Ticket to Ride. She's very excited about it. Have never played Ninja vs. Ninja - that one's on spec. I've played the Pandemic expansion and absolutely love it. Propelled that game from a top ten to a top five for me. Guillotine is pretty funny, yeah, and Citadels will get a lot of play here.
Also, I recently introduced my mom to San Juan, so I don't mind having a few games I can take home next Christmas that she might go for, like Citadels, Guillotine, and Ticket to Ride. She might even go for Pandemic. Seriously, Pandemic is awesome.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, Pandemic is just amazing. It has enough depth to keep regular gamers happy, and it's really simple so it's great to teach others. I've gotten my parents to play it, and my girlfriend and her dad to play, so yeah!

[GreyOwl]

I love Pandemic and Forbidden Island (very similar mechanics to Pandemic, but simpler and faster paced. You can finish a game in 20-30 minutes). Another really fun game I played this past week was Fury of Dracula. Very cool!

[A3n]

Yeah, The Cape was different than I expected and better too. I really enjoyed it.

Finally got a chance to watch it (after downloading it the day you told me about it), & I was suitably impressed. Thanx for the heads up.

Cheers

[Scapemage]

Yeah, The Cape was different than I expected and better too. I really enjoyed it.

Finally got a chance to watch it (after downloading it the day you told me about it), & I was suitably impressed. Thanx for the heads up.

Cheers
I liked the Pilot too. Neat plot.

[tcglkn]

I'll have to watch it on Hulu tomorrow.

[LordEsenwienIV]

Just got the DC Comics Encyclopedia from the library!!!!

[Karat]

Just got the DC Comics Encyclopaedia from the library!!!!
Fixed;)

[LordEsenwienIV]

Just got the DC Comics Encyclopaedia from the library!!!!
Fixed;)
:duh:

[LordEsenwienIV]

On a side note:

IAmBatman, let me predict your future.....

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;)

[IAmBatman]

You meant "note". Also, that's just about my present. :-P

[LordEsenwienIV]

You meant "note". Also, that's just about my present. :-P

I don't see anything wrong:p

[Flame Gryphon]

Are there any plans to make Larfleeze?

[Just read his article on www.dc.wikia.com and now has a new favorite DC character]

[A3n]

Are there any plans to make Larfleeze?

[Just read his article on www.dc.wikia.com and now has a new favorite DC character]

I do believe somebody has drafted Agent Orange. I think it might of been one of Bats' drafts. :shrug:

[IAmBatman]

It was. And there are (eventual) plans. I have a write-up, but after the GL love of Wave 4, there are other, bigger priorities for 2011.

[tcglkn]

You could potentially make a Lantern Spectrum Master Set like next year. If you want to make another Master Set.

[IAmBatman]

Don't be surprised if you never see another Master Set for C3G after Fan Four.

[tcglkn]

I wouldn't. They're a ton of work. I'm very excited to see what you have in store for the Fan4 set.

[Hahma]

You could potentially make a Lantern Spectrum Master Set like next year. If you want to make another Master Set.

Uhh......that would be a no for me. I personally will never have anything to do with another Master Set again. What others choose to do is up to them.

[quozl]

Is there a story that can be shared?

[IAmBatman]

Is there a story that can be shared?

No.

[Hahma]

No story, nothing like that. They just take an extreme amount of time and work that people have no idea. We already have a ton of stuff to do behind the scenes normally, but Master Sets really push things to the limit. As it is, I'm going to be scaling back my time spent for C3G as I've sacrificed a ton of other interests over the past year and a half to make this the focus of much of my free time. I've lost too much sleep and at times (depending on workload that I choose to take on) get bitter toward the project. I don't want to be bitter, and have to set my own pace for involvement as my own passion for the project and need to please have driven me at times to over extend myself with some cost.

[tcglkn]

It sounds like a lot of work, I hope you didn't take that I wanted a new Master Set. That was just an off handed suggestion that Lanterns might make a cool Master Set.

Edit: We are grateful for all the time you have put in Hahma, but I would hate for you to get burned out. Like you said, set yourself a comfortable pace as you are the only one who can control that. I would hate to see any of the current Heroes get tired of the project. It just wouldn't be the same without you guys here.

[Hahma]

It sounds like a lot of work, I hope you didn't take that I wanted a new Master Set. That was just an off handed suggestion that Lanterns might make a cool Master Set.

I'm sure they would be a cool set. :D

[quozl]

Thanks, Hahma. That's perfectly understandable. C3G should be fun. If anyone is doing so much that it's not fun anymore, it's going to show in their work and they should slow down.

I worry about you guys!

[tcglkn]

Maybe when you old Heroes are retired and us Sidekicks and Allies take over we can do another master set.

Then we'll all be calling you asking you how you managed. :lol:

[Hahma]

Thanks for the concern Quozl. Like I said, for my own well being, I need to place self-imposed restrictions on what I do from here on out. The project will have to move at a pace that is healthy for all of us. We have a ton of stuff out and will have more with the FF4 set, so it's not like there needs to be a rush to push product.

[GreyOwl]

You could potentially make a Lantern Spectrum Master Set like next year. If you want to make another Master Set.

Uhh......that would be a no for me. I personally will never have anything to do with another Master Set again. What others choose to do is up to them.

I'm with Hahma! :) I like the idea of a master set and the end result, but I pretty much hate working on one. Though I loved it the first time around on World's Finest, but that was probably just me being naive. :)

No story, nothing like that. They just take an extreme amount of time and work that people have no idea. We already have a ton of stuff to do behind the scenes normally, but Master Sets really push things to the limit. As it is, I'm going to be scaling back my time spent for C3G as I've sacrificed a ton of other interests over the past year and a half to make this the focus of much of my free time. I've lost too much sleep and at times (depending on workload that I choose to take on) get bitter toward the project. I don't want to be bitter, and have to set my own pace for involvement as my own passion for the project and need to please have driven me at times to over extend myself with some cost.

I know what you mean, and I have a feeling you won't be the only one scaling back a little.

[tcglkn]

Well my college classes have started, and besides checking the site from my phone over my lunch break, I have a feeling I will start being less active week after next. This semester is gonna be killer, I have class all morning then I work till close. I'll have to squeeze some playtesting in for the C3V too.

[GreyOwl]

What's your major?

[IAmBatman]

I'm starting a new full time job on the 24th, so I may or may not be scaling back as well.
Having the Fan Four set done (soon) though, and instituting a few changes after it, as well as the growing Art Department and the return of some initial playtesters to help out Hahma will all aid in lessening the pressure any of us have to bear individually, though.
I know I'm good for another five years here minimum, unless all the fun people to collaborate with quit. :-P

[davidlhsl]

I'm very grateful for all the hard work that goes into C3G, as well as the very high bar you set for yourselves. You folks are more important than the project, so anything you can do to relieve your workload should take top priority.

[IAmBatman]

I'm very grateful for all the hard work that goes into C3G, as well as the very high bar you set for yourselves. You folks are more important than the project, so anything you can do to relieve your workload should take top priority.

That's why I drink Burt's Beer.
Burt's Beer ... your alternate stress relief to punching clowns. :-)

[Scapemage]

I just started playing DC Universe Online an hour ago. Great game, I highly recommend it. :D

[GreyOwl]

Marvel needs to come out with something like that...

[johnny139]

Until DC can come out with a game to match Spider-Man 2, the ball's in their court. :p

New episodes of Young Justice are starting up next week, FYI for all interested; last two Fridays they reran the pilot in two parts, so, Episode 3 is this coming Friday.

News says they cast Danny Trejo (lead from Machete if you're unfamiliar with him) as Bane, which is the best possible choice ever.

[Xn F M]

I have a question for the Art Dept. guys (or anyone else that might know a bit about how Acrobat interacts with printers).

Occasionally when I print out my C3G cards they print with a ~2"x2" black square at the bottom of the page. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it on my end. I always print from .pdf files saved to my computer, opened with acrobat reader, and I use my saved C3G print settings.

Just today I did Green Arrow (Conner), Hydra Agents, Shadow Thief, and Bullseye (all comic art), and for some reason Bullseye printed with a big black square at the bottom. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening? And has this happened to anyone else?

[GreyOwl]

Make sure you use Adobe Acrobat to open the PDFs, and not a third-party program. Most of the others aren't 100% compatible.

[IAmBatman]

This is why I'm hoping to get you to print for me in exchange for my cutting services, GO. :-D

[GreyOwl]

Sorry, I meant Adobe Acrobat Reader. The free version works just fine, you don't need the full-blown Acrobat.

[Lord Pyre]

Speaking of art, every card since Gordon has been slightly bigger for me, and I can't figure out why. :p

[tcglkn]

Go Steelers!

[Xn F M]

Sorry, I meant Adobe Acrobat Reader. The free version works just fine, you don't need the full-blown Acrobat.

I'm using Adobe Reader 8.2.5. So unless there's a difference between that and Adobe Acrobat Reader, then that's not the issue.

[A3n]

Sorry, I meant Adobe Acrobat Reader. The free version works just fine, you don't need the full-blown Acrobat.

I'm using Adobe Reader 8.2.5. So unless there's a difference between that and Adobe Acrobat Reader, then that's not the issue.

so is it printing the card & a black block or just the black block instead of the card?

[Xn F M]

Sorry, I meant Adobe Acrobat Reader. The free version works just fine, you don't need the full-blown Acrobat.

I'm using Adobe Reader 8.2.5. So unless there's a difference between that and Adobe Acrobat Reader, then that's not the issue.

so is it printing the card & a black block or just the black block instead of the card?

It prints both the card and the black block, it only seems to print that block on about one in ten documents, and as far as I know I'm not doing anything differently when it prints out.

[GreyOwl]

That might be a printer issue then. Is there a way you can try printing on another printer?

On another note, has anyone seen these Heroscape T-Shirts (http://www.zazzle.com/heroscape_how_i_roll_tshirt-235352164428035329)?

[Peabody]

That might be a printer issue then. Is there a way you can try printing on another printer?

On another note, has anyone seen these Heroscape T-Shirts (http://www.zazzle.com/heroscape_how_i_roll_tshirt-235352164428035329)?

Haha, those are good.
I found this one (http://www.cafepress.com.au/+no_initiative_shirt,97871027) a little while ago.

[NecroBlade]

That might be a printer issue then. Is there a way you can try printing on another printer?

On another note, has anyone seen these Heroscape T-Shirts (http://www.zazzle.com/heroscape_how_i_roll_tshirt-235352164428035329)?
I've owned that one for a while now. Had a picture up in the gallery, too.

[GreyOwl]

I just ordered one for my son's birthday. :)

[LordEsenwienIV]

I just realized that only 10 C3G members don't have titles. That's more than half with:shock:

[IAmBatman]

Well, I did go a bit crazy when I got my Admin status ...

[LordEsenwienIV]

A Bit?:p

[tcglkn]

Several of the Heroes already had titles.

[LordEsenwienIV]

But All the Sidekick titles are new and a few Hero ones are new and/or changed.

[IAmBatman]

The only one I updated was Griff's. :-P He already had one, though. So did I, GreyOwl, Whitey, Hahma, and Necro ... I did give one to Sir G, one to A3n, and one to Spidey ... and one to Tickle. And Davidhsl ... and Deathwalker ... and Scapemage ... man, I've gotta slow down. :-P

[LordEsenwienIV]

It's only 7. Let's make it 8!;)

[tcglkn]

And CharosInCharge

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, good call. I figured I'd forgotten one. :-)

[LordEsenwienIV]

Yep. too many titles in too little time.:lol:

[Griffin]

Yep. too many titles in too little time.:lol:
Shoot to Thrill?

[Balantai]

If any of you guys have Facebook accounts, I'm interested in setting you up as a friend. PM me your name and I'll send you a friend request. Or, I can send you my name and you can request me. (I don't have a common name so it's pretty easy to find me. :D)

[IAmBatman]

I have it but I try to avoid it like a plague ... :-P

[Griffin]

If any of you guys have Facebook accounts, I'm interested in setting you up as a friend. PM me your name and I'll send you a friend request. Or, I can send you my name and you can request me. (I don't have a common name so it's pretty easy to find me. :grin:)



Even me? :confused: :p

Sorry though, I don't have Facebook, but I think quozle does.

[Balantai]

I have it but I try to avoid it like a plague ... :-P
Well if you ever feel like signing on, let me know. It would be nice to see you guys in a different light.

[Balantai]

Even me? :confused: :p

Even you, Griff. :D

Things have been going pretty well between us. Let's keep it up. :lol:

[Lord Pyre]

If any of you guys have Facebook accounts, I'm interested in setting you up as a friend. PM me your name and I'll send you a friend request. Or, I can send you my name and you can request me. (I don't have a common name so it's pretty easy to find me. :D)

I've got one. I normally don't add people I've never met in person, but our group here is pretty close for the most part anyway, so I wouldn't mind. I'm on there a lot, but I rarely do anything other than talk to my girlfriend, so I'm pretty boring. :p

[Balantai]

Hey Griff. Did you pick up DCU Online, yet?

[Griffin]

Hey Griff. Did you pick up DCU Online, yet?
Dude, I thought of that and you tonight after dinner. With my tax return, I will be hooked up, and then I will be ready to start or join a guild with you if you want to. They do have guilds or groups right?

[CharosInCharge]

I might be getting DCU online. Let's rule the streets!

[Balantai]

Hey Griff. Did you pick up DCU Online, yet?
Dude, I thought of that and you tonight after dinner. With my tax return, I will be hooked up, and then I will be ready to start or join a guild with you if you want to. They do have guilds or groups right?

I'm not really sure, yet. I haven't put too much time into the game. If any of you do get an account, check out Scapemage's thread. We have a Heroscape PVE server and PVP server.

[IAmBatman]

Oh boy ... you guys aren't going to go all World of Warcraft on us and abandon the group in a fit of Cheeto-fingered nerd lethargy, are you? :-P

[CharosInCharge]

I already play WoW :/ thanks for boosting my self confidence Bats!

Haha jk mate.

[IAmBatman]

I already play WoW :/ thanks for boosting my self confidence Bats!

Haha jk mate.

Have you ever seen the South Park episode about WoW? :-P

[Good Pig]

LOL!

Mom! Bathroom BATHROOM! There you go sweetykins :moon:

[CharosInCharge]

It's one of the only SP episodes I have ever seen :P classic!

[IAmBatman]

It's one of very few South Park episodes my wife enjoys. :-)

[Scapemage]

Hey Griff. Did you pick up DCU Online, yet?
Dude, I thought of that and you tonight after dinner. With my tax return, I will be hooked up, and then I will be ready to start or join a guild with you if you want to. They do have guilds or groups right?

I'm not really sure, yet. I haven't put too much time into the game. If any of you do get an account, check out Scapemage's thread. We have a Heroscape PVE server and PVP server.
I was thinking about starting a League.Legion for all scapers once we get some more players.

[Lord Pyre]

Regarding Grimnak: See there LP, your comment shows that you don't understand some of the differences between Superhero Scape and Valhalla Scape.

Seige is 120 points, Superman is 400 points. Big difference there my friend. Also regarding "picking big guys is a gamble", well that's the thing, who are the higher pointed units in Valhalla? Large and Huge figures. Who can't the Recchets or Grimnak Chomp? Large and Huge figures. But in Superhero Scape, the vast majority of the figures are medium, so a 25 point unit and a 430 point unit can be affected by Chomp, Lethal Sting, Maul etc. The original designers of the game balanced those insta-killers and defense negating units by not allowing them to affect the most expensive units in the game. That is pretty obvious and a pretty huge difference IMO. If you can send Rechets against Darkseid, all they have to do is roll 2 skulls because his Imposing Presence power reduces adjacent attackers attack by one. Sure you can say kill Iskra real easy like to avoid that. Well not to many people are going to be dumb enough to lead with Iskra to allow that, they will send out meat shields or other heavy hitters to occupy the opponent and then send out Iskra. But aside from that, my main point is that the original designers clearly balanced such devastating powers by not allowing them to affect the most expensive units in the game.

Now if the Kree end up being Soldiers, if you want to playtest with Marcus and do 50 playtests with a variety of Valhalla and mixing builds to make sure they are balanced or close to it for mixing, go right ahead. But it won't affect their cost, because if they are priced according to playing with Marcus, then they will be undraftable for C3G purposes and a big waste of our time. If a C3G unit isn't priced based on draftabilty in C3G armies, then they will never pass to final release. Pure and simple.

No, no, I DO understand, I'm just saying that having Siege chomped is no more fun than having Superman chomped. :p

I know you all don't like the big guys being smooshed by instakills, but if we're really worried about about balance at a tournament level (I'm just saying that, since we're all agreed that mixing is great for casual games, so the tournament level is the only real option we're talking about), then think about it. Instakillers need a roll of 19-20 to kill a unit. Looking at statistics, for 5 games in a normal tournament, that 19-20 roll is half a game. The rest of the time they'll be smooshed. :lol: (Okay, okay, maybe my math is off.... :p ).

The rechets are nasty, though. Some C3G stuff is going to be a little overpowered against Valhalla, but the rechets are pretty much the only ones that are overpowered against C3G. :reapershrug: Grab some SHIELD agents with Darkseid, and put them around Darkseid to protect him while killing the rechets. Your opponent is placing all their chips on these little guys, who are pretty much proven to not be that great anyway.

I don't know if the Kree will be overpowered with Marcus. They haven't been tested. You said you think they might be, so I think they should be tested. I don't think they'll be incredibly far off, however. And besides, pricing in C3G Scape is generally not as important, at least I've found. This guy costs a lot, this guy costs a little, let's go hit each other. :p Valhalla is a little tighter, since the point costs are a lot closer. I just think that if they're priced according to Marcus, then they'd still be fine according to C3G stuff.

I'm trying to keep this civil, I'm not mad or anything, just trying to get my point across. :smile: (And I think Kree Soldiers sounds better, anyway :p )

[IAmBatman]

Doesn't Grimnak Chomp on a 16+?
What's Sudema destroy on?

[Griffin]

I hear your points LP, as I have heard them all before, but mostly what I am hearing is that you are unwilling to let go and accept that your aesthetic of mixing while playtesting is not matched by the official designers or the C3G designers.

Quite honestly, it is pointless for us to debate it, because all sides are very much entrenched in their beliefs, and no one is changing any minds.

[Lord Pyre]

Doesn't Grimnak Chomp on a 16+?
What's Sudema destroy on?

Sudema's a 20, I'm pretty sure (I don't have her), and Grimnak is the only exception. Grimnak's always been good, but he's also extremely slow, and his defense is not nearly enough for C3G battles. he's totally based on luck, and raw stats 90% of the time win out.

I don't see a problem with making it compatible, and saying use instakillers at your own risk. :shrug:

If someone makes an army based on instakillers, it's a gamble, that's my point. They'll do just as well against C3G as they would Valhalla. But C3G games usually have more points, so if you scale upwards, losing Superman isn't that much worse than losing Siege. And it's something awesome to talk about afterward.

[Lord Pyre]

I hear your points LP, as I have heard them all before, but mostly what I am hearing is that you are unwilling to let go and accept that your aesthetic of mixing while playtesting is not matched by the official designers or the C3G designers.

Quite honestly, it is pointless for us to debate it, because all sides are very much entrenched in their beliefs, and no one is changing any minds.

I did Red Tornado totally against just C3G. :p I've gotten over testing with Valhalla, since C3G stuff goes quicker anyway. I just think if something has some major Valhalla synergies, they should be given a thought.

[Griffin]

I know you think that too LP, but we don't. Also, I do appreciate you approaching this topic respectfully and out of the Kree thread - classy. :up:

[Lord Pyre]

I know you think that too LP, but we don't. Also, I do appreciate you approaching this topic respectfully and out of the Kree thread - classy. :up:

I like the theme of Kree soldiers, I just think that that should be looked at. I guess everything kind of exploded again, but that's really just it. :p

It's not classy, it'd just be rude to continue there, so... :p

[IAmBatman]

Doesn't Grimnak Chomp on a 16+?
What's Sudema destroy on?

Sudema's a 20, I'm pretty sure (I don't have her), and Grimnak is the only exception. Grimnak's always been good, but he's also extremely slow, and his defense is not nearly enough for C3G battles. he's totally based on luck, and raw stats 90% of the time win out.

I don't see a problem with making it compatible, and saying use instakillers at your own risk. :shrug:

If someone makes an army based on instakillers, it's a gamble, that's my point. They'll do just as well against C3G as they would Valhalla. But C3G games usually have more points, so if you scale upwards, losing Superman isn't that much worse than losing Siege. And it's something awesome to talk about afterward.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=8685
Sudema kills on a 17.

Grimnak on a 16.

Rechets on 3 skulls (2 against Darkseid).

Braxas on a 17.

Dead eye Dan on a 19 or 20 for a mere investment of 60 points.
With Sonya around, Cyprien gives 6 wounds on a roll of 18.

Deathwalker 7000 can kill just about any human, including Green Lanterns, or Magneto, on a roll of 16. On a roll of 20, he can take out Superman and Darkseid and Thor.

Raelin's would not be a good thing to mix with most of our units ...

For only 130 points, Kee-Mo-Shi can repossess your 400 point figure on a roll of 19.

Ne-Gok-Sa does it on a 20 for only 90 points.

For only 100 points, Morsbane can negate your 400 point figure on a 16 or destroy them on a 20.

Runa, at 120 points, requires a 20 to destroy, but can roll for anyone within 3 spaces.

The Shades give you a squad's worth of chances to repossess someone's 400 point figure on a 19 or 20.

Any four member common squad will just about always own 300+ point heroes through attrition, given equal numbers. This isn't untrue for C3G squaddies, but they are, by and large, made to work with unique heroes more than against them (this was a design choice).

Super Strength is not represented on Valhalla cards nor are any synergies with it.

In short, Valhallascape is made as two things: a really streaky game based on some crazy D20 based luck and a common squad dominated grindhouse. These two things do not match the current aesthetic of C3G which is based more on dependable, tactical end game decisions that allow you to draft figures with crazy high costs without feeling like you're taking a huge gamble every time.
Throwing these figures against Deadeye Dan and a couple of squads of Gladiatrons (who, together, would own them every time) doesn't really float my boat or seem like fun to me.

[Good Pig]

The first game I played with mixed Marvel and Valhalla The Hulk went around killing everything in one hit. Not fun.

The second game I took Braxas as my first draft and killed Silver Surfer and Iron Man with Acid Spray on my first try. Revenge is nice :). but also not very fun game.

I don't think I've played a mixed game since.

[IAmBatman]

Some games work and it's fine for casual play, but I wouldn't design for it.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, I'm kind of getting your points there. But I still think Vigilantes or Crime lords against some major Valhalla stuff is incredibly fun, since their prices are close. ;)

Even if we don't think they're very compatible, why can't we just look at potential synergies? It'd take a game or two, and see if it's really broken or not. And it'd probably be easy to fix, anyway. I just don't like purposefully throwing things out of proportion. If points on other units are a bit off, well, that happens. But if we do something that gives all soldiers +2 attack, then that's obviously really overpowered in Valhalla.

I'm just asking for a test on the Kree guys with Marcus, and to see how balanced they are together. :p They might turn out to be fine, anyway, we don't know until they're tested. :p

[IAmBatman]

And you're certainly free to run that test when playtesting comes.
And some testing with Valhalla is fine ... but the problem comes when you expect the design to be "fixed" to match Valhalla. That's the part that's not going to happen and, honestly, isn't a fair expectation.

[Lord Pyre]

And you're certainly free to run that test when playtesting comes.
And some testing with Valhalla is fine ... but the problem comes when you expect the design to be "fixed" to match Valhalla. That's the part that's not going to happen and, honestly, isn't a fair expectation.

Well, like I said before, I think that something being balanced in Valhalla wouldn't unbalance it in C3G, just by the nature of the games. The reverse isn't true, but this way it should be.

[IAmBatman]

I disagree. I think you can get away with much larger power levels in C3G.

[Lord Pyre]

I disagree. I think you can get away with much larger power levels in C3G.

That's my point. Since C3G is "ramped up," then by nature that which is balanced in Valhalla would be fine in C3G.

If the Kree are really powerful with Marcus, why not raise their cost? In C3G a slight point raise won't matter a whole lot, since costs are in a 400 point range (Excluding Anti-Moniter, who just ruins this point. :) ). It'd be then fine with both Valhalla and C3G. And Green Lantern can just fly over the Kree and shoot Marcus anyway, which screws everything up. :p

[IAmBatman]

If they don't have that synergy in C3G, they're then an overcosted, undesirable draft pick in C3G.
And I think I just put up a whole list earlier of stuff that's balanced in Valhalla but far from "fine" in C3G.

[Lord Pyre]

If they don't have that synergy in C3G, they're then an overcosted, undesirable draft pick in C3G.
And I think I just put up a whole list earlier of stuff that's balanced in Valhalla but far from "fine" in C3G.

Like I said, I don't think them being slightly overcosted would be bad in C3G. If they need a point raise in Valhalla, they could be tested as such in C3G, also, to see if they'd be really undercosted. :shrug:

And hey, those were instakillers, who you know are different. ;) :p

[johnny139]

At this point, I've come to realize that mixed games are by nature unbalanced and some armies will dominate others. Even if Marcus + Kree Soldiers is unbalanced in mixed games... well, who cares? It's beatable for sure. Pairing Marcus with the 4th is probably a better choice anyways.

I mean, I doubt C3G will ever design a unit that is UNBEATABLE in mixed games, and honestly, that's just about all I can hope for. No need to sweat it, y'know?

[IAmBatman]

I like the cut of your jib, Johnny.

[Lord Pyre]

At this point, I've come to realize that mixed games are by nature unbalanced and some armies will dominate others. Even if Marcus + Kree Soldiers is unbalanced in mixed games... well, who cares? It's beatable for sure. Pairing Marcus with the 4th is probably a better choice anyways.

I mean, I doubt C3G will ever design a unit that is UNBEATABLE in mixed games, and honestly, that's just about all I can hope for. No need to sweat it, y'know?

Yeah, I don't think they'll be that powerful, anyway. But yeah, if you're mixing, I guess you could just counter with Punisher anyway, who blows away every squad known to man. :p

I'm going to drop this, I can argue all day with Bats, but Johnny must have magic powers. :p ;)

Sorry, Bats, there's no hard feelings or anything, I just get stubborn and annoying sometimes! :p

[IAmBatman]

:lol: Trust me, I know. But I'm the same way, so it's all good. :-P
Parting shot: If we have to ideally cost a C3G unit for either Valhalla or C3G ... wouldn't it make more sense to ideally cost it for C3G? ;-)

[Lord Pyre]

:lol: Trust me, I know. But I'm the same way, so it's all good. :-P
Parting shot: If we have to ideally cost a C3G unit for either Valhalla or C3G ... wouldn't it make more sense to ideally cost it for C3G? ;-)

NO IT WOULDN'T THAT'S A DUMB INSANE IDEA

...Er.... Maybe... ;) :lol:

[IAmBatman]

:lol:

[Hidicul]

LP, if one of the main creators of Scape says that Marvel and Classic weren't meant to be combined, and we base our stuff off Marvel, why should we worry about Classic? I used to agree with you about mixing them, but as we have gotten more units, I tend to mix less and less, and in fact just ran my first playtest without any classic, my poor Stingers are feeling betrayed right now. The two branches just don't mix that well, and I really don't see why we should concern ourselves with how our units interact in classic. I could honestly see a good argument for removing the classic synergy lists from our Books of, but at the same time I think it's a nice thing to have there for those who do mix. Sorry, I'm just tired of this old argument that never goes anywhere, those who belive they shouldn't be mixed will probably never change thier minds, and those in favor of mixing hardly ever change sides.

[IAmBatman]

As a former pro-mixer myself, I'd like to think we're winning more converts than the pro-mixers are. :-)

[Hahma]

I disagree. I think you can get away with much larger power levels in C3G.

That's my point. Since C3G is "ramped up," then by nature that which is balanced in Valhalla would be fine in C3G.

If the Kree are really powerful with Marcus, why not raise their cost? In C3G a slight point raise won't matter a whole lot, since costs are in a 400 point range (Excluding Anti-Moniter, who just ruins this point. :) ). It'd be then fine with both Valhalla and C3G. And Green Lantern can just fly over the Kree and shoot Marcus anyway, which screws everything up. :p

But squads don't cost 400 points. So if you bump Kree to 100 to balance in Valhalla but they were fine at 90 vs. C3G units, then they would be overpriced for C3G. Squads are used in multiples, so 3 times that 10 point difference is 30 points more that same squad of Kree is going to cost you in a game of C3G only units. That 30 points is going to cost you somewhere else, so instead of getting Green Goblin at 230 points, you can get Batman (Bruce) at 200. Or, you might just say forget the Kree altogether, instead of spending 300 points on 3 squads of them, I'll spend 255 on 3 squads of Hand Ninja and use the extra 45 points toward Bullseye or Elektra. And as more and more squad units come out for C3G that wouldn't be priced based on synergies with Valhalla, the more likely that the Kree will be overlooked and sit in people's storage bins because there will be better options out there. Now for people that mix, it won't matter because they will get an extra squad unit to use and that have to be drafted with Marcus or they wouldn't be worth their points even in mixing games. So basically we at C3G designed a niche unit that will only be maximized for their cost when used in mixing and when drafted with Marcus. That's not really what we're trying to accomplish here though.

Here's an idea though. Instead of C3G catering to players that like to mix, why don't those players create a thread with cost conversions for certain units that they feel would be overpowered when mixing. That way if we release the Kree at 90 points when balanced for C3G units, you guys can have a conversion for them in that thread to say maybe 100 points. Or people that mix can house rule against using units that they feel are over powered or under priced for mixing games. I think the onus to make those adjustments should be on the people concerned with mixing, rather than to be put on the group that is designing them for the purpose of being used exclusively with C3G units/marvel.

The only reason we ever playtested with classic units to begin with was because we didn't have enough Marvel variety to use, and certainly no squads. The intention however was to gradually steer away from testing with classic units as we got more and more C3G units to test with. Now that we have been releasing some squads, that's even more independent we've become of the classic dependence, and that was the intention.

[Lord Pyre]

I just got over it, and we have to continue?! UGH!!! ;)

I don't mix very often, but I have a blast whenever I do, so I think that it should be supported. Granted, I usually do Vigilantes or Criminals against classic, whose points are very similar, which make for great games (Why do you think all of my designs are generally really low costed? ;) I like to design what I, myself, find most fun to play!).

So yeah, let's just go discuss something else before I get all stubborn again. ;)

[quozl]

Listen to the heroes. They make sense.

P.S. Bats, you'll need to remove me from your sig. I don't agree with that anymore.

[Hidicul]

Well I'll defently miss using my Stingers in my playtests, but I hoping the Kree can step into the gap the loss of the Stingers leave, in my mind anyways. The hand made a pretty good testing squad tonight though.

[johnny139]

I think that the meaty, classic, pre-D&D Uniques mix perfectly with C3G, barring insta-kills. I mean, Swarm of the Marro's Sgt. Drake makes for a pretty awesome unit in C3G, I've learned; he's pretty much Spider-Man with a meatier normal attack, honestly. The Ninjas are tons of fun in general. Sir Denrick makes for a pretty good Sentinel slayer if you can sneak him in.

It's the squads that really kill things. Squads are unbalancing, PERIOD, in C3G or Valhalla. Three squads of 4th are better than Jotun without a doubt. And as D&D comes along, things sort of shift to combat that. By then heroes are swarm-centric and anti-squad. Like the Fen Hydra - in my Electro Playtest, he was WAY better than the average hero. Therein lies the problem.

So when you mix, you have to mix responsibly. If you're opponent has a lot of big-name heroes, don't be a jerk and grab Deadeye Dan. An army with eight squads of Stingers isn't fun for anyone. Are you really going to make an army with Wolverine, Deadpool, and twelve pairs of Death Knights?

[Lord Pyre]

I think that the meaty, classic, pre-D&D Uniques mix perfectly with C3G, barring insta-kills. I mean, Swarm of the Marro's Sgt. Drake makes for a pretty awesome unit in C3G, I've learned; he's pretty much Spider-Man with a meatier normal attack, honestly. The Ninjas are tons of fun in general. Sir Denrick makes for a pretty good Sentinel slayer if you can sneak him in.

It's the squads that really kill things. Squads are unbalancing, PERIOD, in C3G or Valhalla. Three squads of 4th are better than Jotun without a doubt. And as D&D comes along, things sort of shift to combat that. By then heroes are swarm-centric and anti-squad. Like the Fen Hydra - in my Electro Playtest, he was WAY better than the average hero. Therein lies the problem.

So when you mix, you have to mix responsibly. If you're opponent has a lot of big-name heroes, don't be a jerk and grab Deadeye Dan. An army with eight squads of Stingers isn't fun for anyone. Are you really going to make an army with Wolverine, Deadpool, and twelve pairs of Death Knights?

I really want that Bucky with a Soldier Sidekick power to go with Drake, since I actually do use him in SuperScape a lot. :p He practically is a superhero, anyway... ;)

[Hidicul]

I think that the meaty, classic, pre-D&D Uniques mix perfectly with C3G, barring insta-kills. I mean, Swarm of the Marro's Sgt. Drake makes for a pretty awesome unit in C3G, I've learned; he's pretty much Spider-Man with a meatier normal attack, honestly. The Ninjas are tons of fun in general. Sir Denrick makes for a pretty good Sentinel slayer if you can sneak him in.

It's the squads that really kill things. Squads are unbalancing, PERIOD, in C3G or Valhalla. Three squads of 4th are better than Jotun without a doubt. And as D&D comes along, things sort of shift to combat that. By then heroes are swarm-centric and anti-squad. Like the Fen Hydra - in my Electro Playtest, he was WAY better than the average hero. Therein lies the problem.

So when you mix, you have to mix responsibly. If you're opponent has a lot of big-name heroes, don't be a jerk and grab Deadeye Dan. An army with eight squads of Stingers isn't fun for anyone. Are you really going to make an army with Wolverine, Deadpool, and twelve pairs of Death Knights?
Hey I have fun running 8 squads of Stingers;)

[Good Pig]

when you mix, please mix responsibly.

Protect your loved ones. :p

[Karat]

As a former pro-mixer myself, I'd like to think we're winning more converts than the pro-mixers are. :-)
Well I'm still the fence sitter there. I'm neither pro-mixer, or pro-straight. I'm more pro-whatever i like to do at the time:p

[GreyOwl]

Hey, I still mix on occasion, too. But I understand that it isn't completely balanced that way. For certain games, I just don't care - I only care that my kids are having fun, and me too. :) If I was concerned about things being balanced for a particular game, then I wouldn't mix.

[Hahma]

Hey, I still mix on occasion, too. But I understand that it isn't completely balanced that way. For certain games, I just don't care - I only care that my kids are having fun, and me too. :) If I was concerned about things being balanced for a particular game, then I wouldn't mix.

Same here. I mix when playing with my kids and it's all fun and not overly competitive.

[GreyOwl]

Exactly. It's not really about whether you mix or not. It's whether you understand the implications of when you do mix.

[Balantai]

I know I'm late to this party, but here are my two cents.

Vahallascape is in and of itself unbalanced. Squads, in general, are undercosted. I don't see this occuring in C3G. For that reason alone, I much prefer that C3G is playtested within C3G figures. It helps keep that unbalanced nature that naturally exists in Vahallascape out of C3G.

[IAmBatman]

:word:

[Griffin]

Balantai representing! :raise_roof:

[Margloth]

Yeah, I gotta say I've pretty much been converted.

As long as there's no Superhero with this power:

BROKEN
Before taking a turn with [Superhero], you may take a turn with Raelin and Major Q-9. All figures you control now have the Valiant personality.
:lol:

[Griffin]

:lol: :word:

[tcglkn]

BROKEN
Before taking a turn with [Superhero], you may take a turn with Raelin and Major Q-9. All figures you control now have the Valiant personality.


How did you know I had a power like that in a write up? I was thinking it'd go good on a low cost ******. :p

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I plan on putting that one on the Living Tribunal, along with a cost of -200 points, just so you can fit in some extra squaddies. :-)

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, I gotta say I've pretty much been converted.

As long as there's no Superhero with this power:

BROKEN
Before taking a turn with [Superhero], you may take a turn with Raelin and Major Q-9. All figures you control now have the Valiant personality. All Small Soulborgs within 10 spaces of this figure may move an additional 4 spaces while Scattering, and roll 2 extra defense dice.
:lol:

Missed one. ;)

[IAmBatman]

Holy Cat's Bane, Batman! Villains for Dark Knight Rises revealed? (http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/anne-hathaway-wins-selina-kyle-role-in-the-dark-knight-rises/)

[Karat]

I'm looking forward to it. I enjoyed both of the first to, and I'm sure I'll enjoy this one as well.

[Margloth]

I'll be really interested to see how Nolan pulls this off... my gut (and past movie experiences) says this sounds terrible, but the awesomeness of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight says it should be cool...

[IAmBatman]

Yeah ... it really seems too early for Bane ... but it would be nice to see Bane in the hands of the master ... and he's certainly a "big splash" character.

[johnny139]

Bane and Catwoman... Catwoman is a no brainer, but Bane, that could really rock it. Get him a bit closer to "normal" and you have a bruiser AND a mob boss, which covers pretty much all the bases. Plus, after Batman & Robin, he needs redeeming.

I like Anne Hathaway a lot - she's a solid actress for sure - but I'm not really certain she can pull off the sexiness of Catwoman. But... well, Heath Ledger wasn't the first choice for the Joker, and we all know how that went. So I'll just wait and see.

[Griffin]

Everything Nolan touches is gold, so this will be no exception. Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is brilliant. :star: :star: :star: :star:

[Scapemage]

Only 4 stars? Geesh. When is that movie supposed to be released? (is it even known?)

Also, I've heard rumors of both X-men: First Class, and X-men Origins: Deadpool. Do you know which movie will be released (if any)?

[johnny139]

First Class is in production, Deadpool is planned.

Of course, they still have Raimi directing a Venom spin-off as "planned," too.

[Griffin]

Oye, First Class, Origins, Deadpool, Venom.... by MARVEL studios, they are all destined to be sucky adaptions of the comics. I really hate MARVEL movies except for Iron Man I and II and Spider Man I and II.

[Balantai]

Of course, they still have Raimi directing a Venom spin-off as "planned," too.
Well I don't see this happening. Raimi didn't want to do Venom at all. I'm suprised this was ever even a consideration.

The second Wolverine movie is also planned.

[johnny139]

Oye, First Class, Origins, Deadpool, Venom.... by MARVEL studios, they are all destined to be sucky adaptions of the comics. I really hate MARVEL movies except for Iron Man I and II and Spider Man I and II.

Actually, X-Men and Spider-Man are in Fox and Sony's hands respectively. I figure they're churning out the new movies to keep their contracts up - Marvel wants them back now that they're creating their own universe and with Disney, they can probably get them.

But the contracts are ironclad, so, we'll just have to wait and see.

(Personally, I liked The Incredible Hulk better than Iron Man, but otherwise, I agree; none of Marvel's older movies really did it for me save Spider-Man. And the Director's Cut of Daredevil and Ghost Rider, but I'm fully aware that they're not really "good" movies.)

[Balantai]

Oye, First Class, Origins, Deadpool, Venom.... by MARVEL studios, they are all destined to be sucky adaptions of the comics. I really hate MARVEL movies except for Iron Man I and II and Spider Man I and II.
I really liked the second X-Men movie, also. In additon, Blade I and II were great.

[LordEsenwienIV]

Oye, First Class, Origins, Deadpool, Venom.... by MARVEL studios, they are all destined to be sucky adaptions of the comics. I really hate MARVEL movies except for Iron Man I and II and Spider Man I and II.

Actually, X-Men and Spider-Man are in Fox and Sony's hands respectively. I figure they're churning out the new movies to keep their contracts up - Marvel wants them back now that they're creating their own universe and with Disney, they can probably get them.

But the contracts are ironclad, so, we'll just have to wait and see.

(Personally, I liked The Incredible Hulk better than Iron Man, but otherwise, I agree; none of Marvel's older movies really did it for me save Spider-Man. And the Director's Cut of Daredevil and Ghost Rider, but I'm fully aware that they're not really "good" movies.)

I agree, I was thoroughly disappointed in Ghost Rider, I just didn't think Nicholas Cage was the right actor for the part. I still have yet to see:


Daredevil
Elektra
Spiderman 1,2 and 3
Hulk

[Balantai]

I agree, I was thoroughly disappointed in Ghost Rider, I just didn't think Nicholas Cage was the right actor for the part. I still have yet to see:


Daredevil
Elektra
Spiderman 1,2 and 3
Hulk
Keep in mind that there are 2 different Hulk movies. The most recent one with Ed Norton is really good. The older one is horrific.

[quozl]

Keep in mind that there are 2 different Hulk movies. The most recent one with Ed Norton is really good. The older one is horrific.

Oh man, I have the exact opposite feelings about the two Hulk movies.

[Griffin]

I thought the Ed Norton one was pretty good, but not enough for me to sing praises about. I think the biggest mistake being made on Hulk is going CGI on him. Either get a big dude like Lou and paint him Green or do the same thing and use trick photography to make him a giant as well (as seen with Gandalf and the Hobits).

[Balantai]

Keep in mind that there are 2 different Hulk movies. The most recent one with Ed Norton is really good. The older one is horrific.

Oh man, I have the exact opposite feelings about the two Hulk movies.
So you thought the movie where the spirit of his father, or something abstract like that, was the villian. I'm still not quite sure I understand how that movie ended. :twisted:

[quozl]

Keep in mind that there are 2 different Hulk movies. The most recent one with Ed Norton is really good. The older one is horrific.

Oh man, I have the exact opposite feelings about the two Hulk movies.
So you thought the movie where the spirit of his father, or something abstract like that, was the villian. I'm still not quite sure I understand how that movie ended. :twisted:

Yeah, I thought the daddy issues were very well done. But I like metaphorical stuff.

[Scapemage]

I haven't seen any Spiderman movies yet either. I got the collection for Christmas, but haven't gotten around to watching them yet.

Also, there's osme web pictures of Spiderman 4 depicting Carnage. I don't believe it though.

[Karat]

I liked both of the Hulk movies, but not so much the portrayal of Abomination, but they did seem lacking.

On a side note, I'm in a really great mood cause I just got the reslults of my first Accounting exam of the quarter, a 95 :woot:

[IAmBatman]

Dark Knight Rises is slated for July 2012.

[Lord Pyre]

Everything Nolan touches is gold, so this will be no exception. Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is brilliant. :star: :star: :star: :star:

Exactly. I've seen every one of Nolan's movie. I have absolute faith in him.

I'd've preferred Talia over Catwoman, as I don't care much for Catwoman, but Bane is good! And Nolan is amazing, so they'll make it work! :)

[A3n]

Everything Nolan touches is gold, so this will be no exception. Anne Hathaway as Catwoman in Black Leather is brilliant. :star: :star: :star: :star:
Fixed

[tcglkn]

Keep in mind that there are 2 different Hulk movies. The most recent one with Ed Norton is really good. The older one is horrific.

I picked up the old one cause I didn't know there was a difference and it sucked so much.

Honestly I don't see all the hate for the X-Men movies. admitantly I've never read any X-Men comics, but the movies were pretty sweet. (Although I do have the uncanny skill of ignoring how the storyline of a movie clashes with a book.) Voyage of the Dawn Treader was my favorite Narnia book and they totally botched the storyline, but I still enjoyed the movie.

[Griffin]

Everything Nolan touches is gold, so this will be no exception. Anne Hathaway as Catwoman in Black Leather is brilliant. :star: :star: :star: :star:
Fixed
It would have been nice to see Christina Hendricks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Hendricks) as Poison Ivy VS Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, and they both wear tights of course. :drool:

[Griffin]

In case some of you don't know who Christina Hendriks is


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3949968594_0bd930ac28_o.jpg

[mrcrimson]

Im stoked he didnt end up going with hugo strange. I cant stand that character.

[tcglkn]

In case some of you don't know who Christina Hendriks is


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3949968594_0bd930ac28_o.jpg


8) :up:

What does she play in?

[IAmBatman]

She's on Mad Men.

[Karat]

She's on Mad Men.
I thought she looked familiar.

[Griffin]

In case some of you don't know who Christina Hendriks is


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3949968594_0bd930ac28_o.jpg


8) :up:

What does she play in?
Mad Men. Wouldn't she make a killer Poison Ivy though?

[tcglkn]

She would. I was just wondering if I had ever seen her. (I haven't.)

Oh a semi -related note, I watched the first 2 episodes of The Cape the other day, its pretty cool.

[A3n]

She had a casual role in Firefly. Now that was a brilliant show!

[Karat]

Oh a semi -related note, I watched the first 2 episodes of The Cape the other day, its pretty cool.
I can't wait for the next, I'm already hooked, though hidicul and I are attempting to figure out who The Cape actually is, because apparently the show is based off of a DC Comic character.

[johnny139]

I dunno, Poison Ivy is a bit more... petite... in my mind. And also wouldn't fit in the Nolanverse at all, so, kind of a moot point there. :p

She had a casual role in Firefly. Now that was a brilliant show!

Now that's an opinion I can get behind! :up:

[Hahma]

I dunno, Poison Ivy is a bit more... petite... in my mind. And also wouldn't fit in the Nolanverse at all, so, kind of a moot point there. :p

She had a casual role in Firefly. Now that was a brilliant show!

Now that's an opinion I can get behind! :up:

I never saw Firefly, but Mad Men is a brilliant show. 8)

[Lord Pyre]

She had a casual role in Firefly. Now that was a brilliant show!

Now that's an opinion I can get behind! :up:

Totally! GREAT show!

I never saw Firefly, but Mad Men is a brilliant show. 8)

Go away. :p

[IAmBatman]

Firefly was great and so is Mad Men. :-P

[tcglkn]

Hey guys, keep my family in your prayers. My grandfather is refusing to eat, drink or take his medications, and my mom had to drive down to South Carolina tonight to talk to him.

[Karat]

Hey guys, keep my family in your prayers. My grandfather is refusing to eat, drink or take his medications, and my mom had to drive down to South Carolina tonight to talk to him.
That's never good tickle, you most definitely have my prayers. Hope he sees reason.

[mrcrimson]

Im sorry to hear that tcglkn. Will definitely keep your family in my prayers.

[IAmBatman]

Sorry to hear that, Tickle! Dialing up some prayers.

[Lord Pyre]

I'll remember you, Tickle! That's horrible! My grandpa just got out of a nursing home today, after spending two months in a hospital and nursing home, so I know how tough it is...







I'm having a bit of fun inspired by davidlhsl, if anyone wants to check it out here (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=1318309).

[Balantai]

So far I have quozl and Tickle in a Heroscape group on Facebook. If anyone else is interested, please PM a link to your account so I may add you as a friend. The more the merrier. :D

[Lord Pyre]

So far I have quozl and Tickle in a Heroscape group on Facebook. If anyone else is interested, please PM a link to your account so I may add you as a friend. The more the merrier. :D

PM sent!

[Karat]

So far I have quozl and Tickle in a Heroscape group on Facebook. If anyone else is interested, please PM a link to your account so I may add you as a friend. The more the merrier. :D

PM sent!
PM sent:)

[whitestuff]

I'll have to admit... I've got very little clue about most of the characters who are in this...

http://www.joe-stone.co.uk/images/xmenfamilytree.jpg

[Karat]

I'll have to admit... I've got very little clue about most of the characters who are in this...

http://www.joe-stone.co.uk/images/xmenfamilytree.jpg
Me either:shock::jawdrop::surrender::unsure: