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D-Dyzzle
September 27th, 2006, 06:29 PM
I just recently became obsessed with dnd (dungeons and dragons for those who dont know). and i really like it.

anyone share this love?

so far im a level 3 human rouge. im a noob :cry:

Kepler
September 27th, 2006, 10:19 PM
I just recently became obsessed with dnd (dungeons and dragons for those who dont know). and i really like it.

anyone share this love?

so far im a level 3 human rouge. im a noob :cry:

I was a big D&D fan back in the 80s. It is a great game and RPGing in general is a lot of fun.

Good luck!

pheonixq
September 27th, 2006, 11:46 PM
I just recently became obsessed with dnd (dungeons and dragons for those who dont know). and i really like it.

anyone share this love?

so far im a level 3 human rouge. im a noob :cry:

I started playing in college and am still going. I went to Gen Con last year because of roleplaying and found HS while I was there.

StarSlayer
September 27th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Been playing since the mid 80's. I love to play but just can't find the time to commit to it every week. If I could find about 4 other players, who could commit to every saturday, well that would make me get back into it.

Our last group broke up about 2 years ago. At that time the brute I was playing was a level 10 Lycanthrope. Lots of fun with him. Class was custom War Priest.

Malechi
September 28th, 2006, 02:47 AM
I played a lot during the 70's and 80's, but dropped it when they started the match Games Workshop business plan of revising the rules every few years to force new purchases. Haven't played in decades (at least not in this millenia) ... I prefer HeroQuest for a quick throw together game; or WarhammerQuest for DM-less adventuring.

Agent Minivann
September 28th, 2006, 05:53 AM
I started playing right around when 2nd Edition AD&D came out. My first character was a Human Cavalier. We played on virtually a daily basis in high school. We'd hang out in the library (until we'd get kicked out) playing during lunch and any assemblies we could legitimately get out of. Then we'd gather at the DM's house on Saturdays for a few hours. I was lucky with a great first group (I'll forget the one clueless guy). I've never seen anywhere near as good. Most of the groups I've seen or heard of since have been like all the bad qualities of Knights of the Dinner Table.

Vette71
September 28th, 2006, 08:23 AM
I and a group of friends played 2nd edition for several years in the late 80s early 90s. Loved the game, a ton of fun. It was still a "real game" when most other rpgs started following the trend of turning into "rules lite let's play pretend" sessions. But I'm probably one of a very small minority that prefers a good hack & slash & loot session to sitting around and "acting out a fantasy with my friends." But to its credit, DnD can do either one effectively.
Just recently, I have been considering purchasing the new Basic Game boxed set to try to introduce my kids to the game.

Velenne
September 28th, 2006, 08:32 AM
I played for a little over 10 years- 2E, 3E, and 3.5. I'd agree with Malechi except that the 3E rules were a VAST improvement over the former system. D20 is far and away easier, more robust, and more flexible.

Favorite character: Human Sorceror 15

Favorite munchkin: Ogre Fighter 11

Highest Level Character played from 1st: Half-Dragon Psion 20

DarkSpade
September 28th, 2006, 09:17 AM
In a campaign right now. We started at lvl 10. I'm a changeling rogue(10)/beguiler(1)




WarhammerQuest for DM-less adventuring.

/woot!

Vette71
September 28th, 2006, 09:43 AM
I played for a little over 10 years- 2E, 3E, and 3.5. I'd agree with Malechi except that the 3E rules were a VAST improvement over the former system. D20 is far and away easier, more robust, and more flexible.
How does D20 compare with 2nd Edition AD&D? I've personally never even browsed through a 3E book.

Favorite character: Human Sorceror 15

Favorite munchkin: Ogre Fighter 11

Highest Level Character played from 1st: Half-Dragon Psion 20
Our DM had a module where we all started out as nobodys at 0 level. Amazingly, we all managed to keep our characters alive and progressed to some pretty high levels. Until, long after our DM moved away, he came back on a visit to run one last game with us and our old characters. He had unfortunately designed the game for no other reason than to kill us off. :(
All I can remember of my character is that his name was Marik, he was from a small island town called Highport, and at some point he aquired a wicked cool Flametongue sword...

Velenne
September 28th, 2006, 10:19 AM
3E (now 3.5) differs in innumerable ways. Most of your sacred cows are still there, but the system is vastly more intuitive than 2E. No complicated charts or entirely seperate methodoligies between classes. The same concepts apply if you're a fighter, rogue, or wizard. The 'feat' system gives you infinite flexibility which is augmented by the 'presige class' system.

Don't like rangers? Don't use em. Don't like magic? No problem. Want to use feats from 8 books, prestige classes from 4, a custom monster race and design your own spells? You can do that too.

It's a system built from the bottom up. Truly genius.

deehizzle
September 28th, 2006, 11:14 AM
I used to love AD&D back when I could actually find people that wanted to play. I'm 24 years old now and it's VERY tough to find people that are still interested in AD&D, but it's definately a great game as long as you have a good DM.

DarkSpade
September 28th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Our DM had a module where we all started out as nobodys at 0 level. Amazingly, we all managed to keep our characters alive and progressed to some pretty high levels. Until, long after our DM moved away, he came back on a visit to run one last game with us and our old characters. He had unfortunately designed the game for no other reason than to kill us off. :(

Eh, who cares if he dead. In a case like that, you just pretend the game never happened. :)

Vette71
September 28th, 2006, 02:35 PM
LOL, I'm sure we would have, only the DM was the only guy who had any DnD stuff. After he was gone, we had no way to play anymore.
I had Doctor Who and the original d6 Star Wars, but after our "group" dissolved, there was never anyone to play with.
Within the last year, I have sold all my old rpgs, but now that my kids are getting old enough, they're taking an interest in gaming (every weekend it's, "Dad, maybe we can play Heroscape tonight?") so I'm seriously considering getting another. And DnD (at least the old version I know) and Rolemaster are about the only two that haven't went all fruity and "rules lite with an emphasis on story"... :bang:

Agent Minivann
September 28th, 2006, 03:32 PM
That DM sounds like a donkey. We only had a few times death was a big issue. One where we were proving too powerful for the module, so he beefed it up. There ended up being only two survivors out of around 8. He decided that to compensate for making it too tough he would include a few random magical items. One of the random magic items was a Rod of Ressurection, no joke. The other time death was a big issue was when the guy that played the assassin type characters hated the clueless guy who always brought 3 or 4 characters to a gaming session and played all of them (horribly). The assassin would pick them off one at a time, and the other guy never caught on.

D-Dyzzle
September 28th, 2006, 06:32 PM
wow. this thread got abuncha post quick.

funniest thing happaned once:
me and three other guys were playin (awsome DM btw) and one of us who never played before wasnt payin attension and started askin really dumb questions. i asked him, "dude, whats your attention span?" and he started looking on his character sheet! i nearly died laughing.


well theres another gameday at gen-x comics in bedford, check the events thread. im thinkin bout bringin my dnd stuff if yall in the DFW area wanna come.

Vette71
September 28th, 2006, 10:02 PM
wow. this thread got abuncha post quick.

funniest thing happaned once:
me and three other guys were playin (awsome DM btw) and one of us who never played before wasnt payin attension and started askin really dumb questions. i asked him, "dude, whats your attention span?" and he started looking on his character sheet!
:rofl:

Tiberius
September 29th, 2006, 06:52 AM
I grew up playing the 2nd edition and throughout college a modified 2nd edition D&D, and now I have the 3.5 edition books. The only thing I dont like about the new books is how they have done multiclassing. D20 modern did this successfully but I feel that your character gets the shaft too much by multiclassing if for example I go 19 levels as a fighter and at 20th level I decide I want a rank of sorcerer. I am going to have to pay how many million experience points for the ability to cast 1st level spells? Alternatively I could go 1st level fighter, 1st level sorcerer and then back to fighter and pay a lot less for that ability to use magic. It seems a bit unbalanced from the multiclassing aspect to me, but I guess each level you get your various bonuses, skills and hitpoints so it all evens out. I do like pretty much every other aspect of the game, I like the character advancement, I like the feats and how they made skills actually useful.

Agent Minivann
September 29th, 2006, 07:15 AM
IIRC my attention span was an 18. :joke:

That's hilarious. My favorite story from D&D was a rule dispute between a player and the DM. They were arguing back and forth for close to a minute. It wasn't to yelling yet, but it was getting a little heated. I'm sitting inbetween the two minding my own business finishing off my Sprite. I feel some gas welling up so I let out a belch. At this stage when I burped I'd go for length rather than volume. It must have lasted close to 10 seconds. When I finished they were both staring at me in surprise. They forgot what they were arguing about, and the game continued.

D-Dyzzle
September 29th, 2006, 05:52 PM
:rofl:

regdar
September 30th, 2006, 01:01 PM
I love D&D hence the name regdar

D-Dyzzle
September 30th, 2006, 03:25 PM
nice name.

i got an awsome dm near. he just made me a level 10 calvalreir (pdsp) and i have a howler mount. AWSOME!!!

InfinityMax
September 30th, 2006, 05:33 PM
I'm going to take a BM on this thread, but hear me out, I know what I'm doing.

D&D is fun stuff. I played it a lot as a kid, but haven't played an RPG in a while, unless you count Battlestations. I still review the books and minis, because even though I barely play D&D any more, I still think it's interesting.

The problem is, it's not hard to become a social outcast. I know, break out the torches and pitchforks, I'm stereotyping. But I'm telling you, I've been there, and it's way too easy to spend your whole life fantasizing about defeating the terrasque, claiming the portal to the underworld, and seizing a magic vorpal sword +8. And then you're a dork, big-time.

I'm not saying you should quit playing. But balance it and limit it. Don't play every day. Don't talk about your character at school. Have friends that don't play D&D, and don't try to recruit them.

Play sports. Talk to girls. Start a hobby that doesn't have anything to do with computers or games. Go camping, go to school football games, go to the dances at school. And talk to girls.

I'm speaking from experience here. I was an enormous geek in high school, and later on, too. I limited my entire life because of role-playing games. I don't play much any more, and when I do, it's just with my kids. I have lots of friends who don't even play board games.

I am also speaking from observation. I have a friend - a gamer buddy from a ways back - who is over 30 and not married. And sadly, he's not likely to be. All his friends are in his RPG group. He lives alone, and though he bathes regularly, is frightfully scared to talk to girls.

I've met you, Dyz, and you could go either way. You're a good kid, but this isn't life. It's a pastime. It's fun, sure, but it's no replacement for having a life.

I'll stop now. Sorry to be a downer - I'm not saying don't play D&D. Just don't let it turn into your life.

D-Dyzzle
September 30th, 2006, 06:00 PM
words of wisdom from imax. you aint gotta apoligize, your not bein a downer, your just, uhh, im not sure, but its not downin imo. thnx.

and for the record, i bath regularly AND talk to girls :)

InfinityMax
September 30th, 2006, 07:12 PM
and for the record, i bath regularly AND talk to girls :)

Good enough for me, man.

Joah
September 30th, 2006, 07:55 PM
I'm going to take a BM on this thread, but hear me out, I know what I'm doing.

D&D is fun stuff. I played it a lot as a kid, but haven't played an RPG in a while, unless you count Battlestations. I still review the books and minis, because even though I barely play D&D any more, I still think it's interesting.

The problem is, it's not hard to become a social outcast. I know, break out the torches and pitchforks, I'm stereotyping. But I'm telling you, I've been there, and it's way too easy to spend your whole life fantasizing about defeating the terrasque, claiming the portal to the underworld, and seizing a magic vorpal sword +8. And then you're a dork, big-time.

I'm not saying you should quit playing. But balance it and limit it. Don't play every day. Don't talk about your character at school. Have friends that don't play D&D, and don't try to recruit them.

Play sports. Talk to girls. Start a hobby that doesn't have anything to do with computers or games. Go camping, go to school football games, go to the dances at school. And talk to girls.

I'm speaking from experience here. I was an enormous geek in high school, and later on, too. I limited my entire life because of role-playing games. I don't play much any more, and when I do, it's just with my kids. I have lots of friends who don't even play board games.

I am also speaking from observation. I have a friend - a gamer buddy from a ways back - who is over 30 and not married. And sadly, he's not likely to be. All his friends are in his RPG group. He lives alone, and though he bathes regularly, is frightfully scared to talk to girls.

I've met you, Dyz, and you could go either way. You're a good kid, but this isn't life. It's a pastime. It's fun, sure, but it's no replacement for having a life.

I'll stop now. Sorry to be a downer - I'm not saying don't play D&D. Just don't let it turn into your life.
Once again, great advice IM.

In fact, I'm going to bang out a script for a new ABC Afterschool Special
on this.
You will of course, get a screen credit. :wink:

DarkSpade
September 30th, 2006, 09:17 PM
My D&D group is rather different. 3(4?) of us our married, and the DM's girlfriend plays too.

D-Dyzzle
September 30th, 2006, 09:19 PM
:shock:

Bixby
September 30th, 2006, 10:07 PM
PLayed for years and year. Just recently got out of it. A friend of mine is going to sell all of my books and modules on eBay. He has a super eBay rating and quite a few people get him to sell their stuff. I never played D&D as a kid, started when I was in my 20's. There are many games and groups that play near me, I just got tired of teh constatly shifting rules and releases of "new system". With my other board games, our weekly HeroScape game, and the weekly poker game, I certainly get my gaming fix. Amusing thing is that my wife just starting playing D&D regularly with a group of our friends. (Almost all 40+ in age). I gave up that game and decided that I would focus more effort (Time & Money) on HeroScape. Who knew that Regina, Saskatchewan was such a hotbed of gaming :)

Hahma
October 1st, 2006, 01:09 PM
I'm going to take a BM on this thread, but hear me out, I know what I'm doing.

D&D is fun stuff. I played it a lot as a kid, but haven't played an RPG in a while, unless you count Battlestations. I still review the books and minis, because even though I barely play D&D any more, I still think it's interesting.

The problem is, it's not hard to become a social outcast. I know, break out the torches and pitchforks, I'm stereotyping. But I'm telling you, I've been there, and it's way too easy to spend your whole life fantasizing about defeating the terrasque, claiming the portal to the underworld, and seizing a magic vorpal sword +8. And then you're a dork, big-time.

I'm not saying you should quit playing. But balance it and limit it. Don't play every day. Don't talk about your character at school. Have friends that don't play D&D, and don't try to recruit them.

Play sports. Talk to girls. Start a hobby that doesn't have anything to do with computers or games. Go camping, go to school football games, go to the dances at school. And talk to girls.

I'm speaking from experience here. I was an enormous geek in high school, and later on, too. I limited my entire life because of role-playing games. I don't play much any more, and when I do, it's just with my kids. I have lots of friends who don't even play board games.

I am also speaking from observation. I have a friend - a gamer buddy from a ways back - who is over 30 and not married. And sadly, he's not likely to be. All his friends are in his RPG group. He lives alone, and though he bathes regularly, is frightfully scared to talk to girls.

I've met you, Dyz, and you could go either way. You're a good kid, but this isn't life. It's a pastime. It's fun, sure, but it's no replacement for having a life.

I'll stop now. Sorry to be a downer - I'm not saying don't play D&D. Just don't let it turn into your life.

Listen to IMAX or this could be you,

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1194164636

D-Dyzzle
October 1st, 2006, 09:21 PM
:rofl:

Vette71
October 2nd, 2006, 08:38 AM
Well, I saw a deal that I thought I would throw some money at on eBay and surprisingly enough, won.
I got the 3E Players Handbook, Dungeon Masters Guide, Monster Manual, Sword & Sorcery Creature Collection and a red velvet bag of D&D dice for $9.99. (either I got really lucky, or 3E isn't as popular as I thought.)

Hopefully the system is as customizable as Velenne indicated so I can use it as a nice hack and loot dungeon crawl game for the kids.
(as in doing away with any skills that pertain to arts and crafts and such)

Kepler
October 2nd, 2006, 02:41 PM
That was a good deal.



Is D&D still the best RPG for kids to start with?

Vette71
October 2nd, 2006, 03:09 PM
I hope so. I tried Decipher's LoTR for a while. Could have been a good system, but was geared too much towards "let's all sit around and pretend we're in a magical world and act out an epic tragedy in our character's voices and accents" than it was about fighting Orcs and Goblins and stuff.
It's a shame how most rpgs for kids have devolved from highly detailed simulations to little more than the same playing pretend stuff that most pre-schoolers do...
The again, I might just trade the D&D stuff for a few more 'scape figures... :shrug:

DarkSpade
October 2nd, 2006, 03:32 PM
(either I got really lucky, or 3E isn't as popular as I thought.)


Actually, 3.5 is the current edition. So, you're player's guide isn't up to date. Everything else is fine though. As far as I know, only the PG was updated.

Kepler
October 2nd, 2006, 03:46 PM
I hope so. I tried Decipher's LoTR for a while. Could have been a good system, but was geared too much towards "let's all sit around and pretend we're in a magical world and act out an epic tragedy in our character's voices and accents" than it was about fighting Orcs and Goblins and stuff.
It's a shame how most rpgs for kids have devolved from highly detailed simulations to little more than the same playing pretend stuff that most pre-schoolers do...
The again, I might just trade the D&D stuff for a few more 'scape figures... :shrug:

That is a shame. An RPG without a lot of combat is a watse of time IMO.

That's why I am interested in converting HS to an combat-based RPG.

Velenne
October 2nd, 2006, 04:11 PM
(either I got really lucky, or 3E isn't as popular as I thought.)
<snip>
Hopefully the system is as customizable as Velenne indicated


Actually, 3.5 is the current edition. So, you're player's guide isn't up to date. Everything else is fine though. As far as I know, only the PG was updated.

Nope, everything was updated with 3.5. Those books will be at best, mostly compatible with any of the new material. A lot was updated and improved with the half-update.

And yet it remains fully customizable and servicable in 3E form. However as you play you may notice some classes or abilities a little lacking or overpowered. Most of those were fixed with the revision.

D-Dyzzle
October 2nd, 2006, 10:02 PM
poll added. do yall play?

Vette71
October 2nd, 2006, 10:07 PM
I downloaded a small PDF book from the official sight that is supposed to contain all the revisions for 3E owners to bring it up to 3.5, so I guess that should do the trick.
I don't plan on putting a heavy investment in it at all. It's more for a cheap way to get all the kids around the table at once for a fun game until they're old enough to trust touching my precious HS figures without breaking them!!! :P

Vette71
October 2nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
poll added. do yall play?
I haven't got my books yet...but I hate to vote no...

kenjib
October 3rd, 2006, 04:47 AM
I play. We're mostly all married folk here too. I used to play 1e AD&D back in the day. Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I liked 1e much better. The fantasy aspects of 3e just seem too kitchen soup now. 1e had a certain feel to it. The illustrations are probably a part of it. The focus on feats and skills is probably another big part of it. Another big part of it probably has to do with a lot of the stuff that seeped in during the 2e years (during which I did not play) still being there. It's still fun though. What I would really like to play are some other RPG's like Heroquest (completely unrelated to the board game), Shadows of Yesterday, Polaris, Dogs in the Vineyard, etc.

Vette71
October 3rd, 2006, 08:30 AM
I know I've probably said it a dozen times, but Rolemaster is a great game to get that "old school" rpg feel. It's definitely geared more toward the gamers than it is the "dramatists" in the hobby.
I'll take dice rolling over crying, "lightning bolt; lightning bolt; lightning bolt..." any day!!

Kepler
October 3rd, 2006, 11:56 AM
I play. We're mostly all married folk here too. I used to play 1e AD&D back in the day. Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I liked 1e much better. The fantasy aspects of 3e just seem too kitchen soup now. 1e had a certain feel to it. The illustrations are probably a part of it. The focus on feats and skills is probably another big part of it. Another big part of it probably has to do with a lot of the stuff that seeped in during the 2e years (during which I did not play) still being there. It's still fun though. What I would really like to play are some other RPG's like Heroquest (completely unrelated to the board game), Shadows of Yesterday, Polaris, Dogs in the Vineyard, etc.

I really liked 1st Ed D&D as well. I much presfer the illustrations back then to the current ones (orcs shouild look like pigmen!). A lot of it is probably nostalgia.

But the current system is much better IMO (just by looking at the rules -- I have never played 3rd Ed) in the way combat is resolved. Eliminating the tables and just making AC the number needed to hit you and giving attack bonuses to various level is a huge improvement over 1st Ed to me.

I never really liked the way magic was done in 1st Ed either (I don't know how 3rd Edition does it). The whole memorizing spells and losing that memeory when the spell was cast never made sense to me. My friends and I devised a Magic Point system back then. Each Magic User would have so many Magic Points and casing spells would have different MP costs depending on spell level. I liked that system better.

Agent Minivann
October 3rd, 2006, 04:41 PM
I know I've probably said it a dozen times, but Rolemaster is a great game to get that "old school" rpg feel. It's definitely geared more toward the gamers than it is the "dramatists" in the hobby.
I'll take dice rolling over crying, "lightning bolt; lightning bolt; lightning bolt..." any day!!

I'm in a different camp there. While I don't mind rolling the dice, some of the most fun I've had employed the dice very rarely. It never involved anything bordering on LARPing. It was about using the old noodle to figure things out, and other stuff. I remember seeing a thing about the different types of role players. The two that stuck out were the problem solvers (me and some of my group) and the roll players (like the guy in my group that couldn't figure out a puzzle and asked if his character could figure it out on an intelligence roll. I'm not saying roll players are clueless, but the one in our group definetly was). I have a lot of fun with some good old fashioned combat, but I don't feel the game a waste if we don't touch the dice for a while.

reapersaurus
October 3rd, 2006, 06:26 PM
A lot of it is probably nostalgia.Bingo.

There have been 100-page threads about the inadequacies of 1E and how so many things were improved with 3E, but all the reasons in the world won;t change anyone's mind who simply wants it to stay as it was.

And roll-play vs role-play has had thousands of pages of discussion on it. :D

Really, if anyone views either side with the picture of an extreme example in their head, both sides can be silly. It's the combination of rolling for encounters and getting the excitement and fun of combat and using spells and weapons with the fear of mortal PC danger, AND the intrigue and interplay of roleplaying thru encounters and not just relying on a roll of the dice that makes RPG a strong pasttime.

But if I had to go only one direction, I'd definately say roleplay is more critical to RPG than roll-play.
If you want to roll dice only, then RPG's aren;t the game for you. Heroscape is a wonderful alternative, which IMO is a great substitute for RPG combat.

Vette71
October 3rd, 2006, 11:10 PM
Really, if anyone views either side with the picture of an extreme example in their head, both sides can be silly. It's the combination of rolling for encounters and getting the excitement and fun of combat and using spells and weapons with the fear of mortal PC danger, AND the intrigue and interplay of roleplaying thru encounters and not just relying on a roll of the dice that makes RPG a strong pasttime.
This is absolutely true!!

Heroscape is a wonderful alternative, which IMO is a great substitute for RPG combat.
That hits the nail right on the head! I find heroscape (for me) is the perfect game. It's all the fun of an rpg without all the silly roleplaying. Of course, I also enjoy the figuring things out/solving mysteries interplay part of an rpg...it's acting out the emotions/accents etc...where I have to draw the line...

Kepler
October 3rd, 2006, 11:45 PM
Really, if anyone views either side with the picture of an extreme example in their head, both sides can be silly. It's the combination of rolling for encounters and getting the excitement and fun of combat and using spells and weapons with the fear of mortal PC danger, AND the intrigue and interplay of roleplaying thru encounters and not just relying on a roll of the dice that makes RPG a strong pasttime.
This is absolutely true!!

Heroscape is a wonderful alternative, which IMO is a great substitute for RPG combat.
That hits the nail right on the head! I find heroscape (for me) is the perfect game. It's all the fun of an rpg without all the silly roleplaying. Of course, I also enjoy the figuring things out/solving mysteries interplay part of an rpg...it's acting out the emotions/accents etc...where I have to draw the line...

Well put. The decision making/problem solving aspects of RPGing balanced with a healthy amount of combat is best for an RPG.

If I had to choose between role-playing and roll-playing at the extremes I would definitely choose roll-playing (that's why I like HS so much).

Agent Minivann
October 4th, 2006, 05:51 AM
A lot of it is probably nostalgia.Bingo.

There have been 100-page threads about the inadequacies of 1E and how so many things were improved with 3E, but all the reasons in the world won;t change anyone's mind who simply wants it to stay as it was.

And roll-play vs role-play has had thousands of pages of discussion on it. :D

Really, if anyone views either side with the picture of an extreme example in their head, both sides can be silly. It's the combination of rolling for encounters and getting the excitement and fun of combat and using spells and weapons with the fear of mortal PC danger, AND the intrigue and interplay of roleplaying thru encounters and not just relying on a roll of the dice that makes RPG a strong pasttime.

But if I had to go only one direction, I'd definately say roleplay is more critical to RPG than roll-play.
If you want to roll dice only, then RPG's aren;t the game for you. Heroscape is a wonderful alternative, which IMO is a great substitute for RPG combat.

Excellent post. There's thousands of pages of discussion about which is better, but it all comes down to having a good group, and DM in particular. The DM in our group knew when to have us roll the dice and when to leave them alone.

The more I think of it, the clueless guy in our group really was the poster child of the roll-play extreme. He almost sat there pawing his dice when we were on an extended role-play stage. We're doing a whole lot not touching the dice, and you could almost here the guy saying "When can I roll my dice?!?" Then there were those tense combat situations where everything hinges on one roll of the dice.

DarkSpade
October 4th, 2006, 10:18 AM
We have the problem in our group with two of our players. They always want to rush to the next fight, and are always getting ticked off if someone in the group is spending too much time actually roleplaying.

I'm a thief Damn it! I'm going to try to steal stuff every now and then!

Vette71
October 4th, 2006, 12:17 PM
I still like the story of the guy looking for his "attention span" stat! :lol:

reapersaurus
October 4th, 2006, 04:56 PM
We have the problem in our group with two of our players. They always want to rush to the next fight, and are always getting ticked off if someone in the group is spending too much time actually roleplaying.

I'm a thief darn it! I'm going to try to steal stuff every now and then!In my experience, anyone exhibiting this kind of behavior is not well suited for a roleplaying game. :word:

Actually, the hardest players for me to deal with are the spotlight-hogs who play chaotic-neutral thieves (no, not a rogue they say - a THIEF) who really only play to do whatever they (the player) want and don;t give a crap about taking on a role for the game.
They just want the least limitations and the skills to do anything they want at any time, including dominating their fellow PC's thru threat of backstabbing or actually stealing from their fellow PC's. The best these players can manage to do is only skim SOME of the treasure they find and hide it from their fellow players.

In a nutshell, these players only play RPG's to WIN. :roll:
Which is about as pathetic as playing a game against yourself solely to win. :headshake:

Vette71
October 5th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Before I get too involved in making custom character sheets and maps etc... which would greatly cut into my HS time (which is my number 1 game!) I thought I would display my recent purchase here:
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10124/DD1.jpg
I would be perfectly happy to trade with someone who is much more into D&D than I for some extra figs or even terrain. Feel free to PM if so, if not it'll still serve as a good "get all the kids together at once" game (Yeah, I've got FOUR!! Am I an idiot or what!!??) I'm happy either way :D
PS: I wasn't sure if this should be in the TRADE thread or not as it's not entirely HS related, so feel free to move if necessary.

Kepler
October 5th, 2006, 01:51 PM
I have never played RPGs with anyone that was there just to roll dice, but I haven't played in about 18 years and I only played with buddies from school (and a few friends of theirs). Is that type of player common these days?

Vette71
October 5th, 2006, 02:13 PM
I can't say that I have ever played with anyone like that either, my old group always seemed to have just the right mix, at least for us anyway. But most of the newer, more "trendy" rpgs these days and most modern players, seem to be geared more toward an exercise in improvisational theatre. When one stops to consider that most new systems are more concerned with Drama Points than Ability Scores, that kind of says it all.

Rodriquez
October 6th, 2006, 12:54 AM
ok I'll post this here, a friend of the family's son recently passed away and his dad has a ton of old
Dragon Magazines(issue #74-188ish), some dungeon magazines. as well as a box full of old D &D and Ad&D manuals(list forthcoming soon)

the Manuals I took a quick look at and most are from late 80'2 to early 90's(ex: Player manul circa 1988: White notebook type Monster compendiums).

most are in decent/fair with some heavy use.

any idea what these might be worth? or sell for?

cheers
Rod

Vette71
October 6th, 2006, 08:13 AM
ok I'll post this here, a friend of the family's son recently passed away and his dad has a ton of old
Dragon Magazines(issue #74-188ish), some dungeon magazines. as well as a box full of old D &D and Ad&D manuals(list forthcoming soon)

the Manuals I took a quick look at and most are from late 80'2 to early 90's(ex: Player manul circa 1988: White notebook type Monster compendiums).

most are in decent/fair with some heavy use.

any idea what these might be worth? or sell for?

cheers
Rod
I'm very sorry to hear that news, I hope they are coping well, I couldn't imagine losing a child.
The early to 2nd edition stuff seems to be very popular among collectors and gamers to this day. It's very common to see it selling far quicker and for much more than the new stuff on places like eBay.

D-Dyzzle
October 8th, 2006, 01:44 AM
its good to b a noob.

noobs get hugs :)

i went to play dnd at game xchange today. over the course of 5 hours i got like 7 hugs from cute girls that apparently think noobs are cute.

LEVEL -3 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kepler
October 8th, 2006, 10:40 AM
its good to b a noob.

noobs get hugs :)

i went to play dnd at game xchange today. over the course of 5 hours i got like 7 hugs from cute girls that apparently think noobs are cute.

LEVEL -3 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait a minute. When did cute girls start playing D&D?

DarkSpade
October 8th, 2006, 11:01 AM
its good to b a noob.

noobs get hugs :)

i went to play dnd at game xchange today. over the course of 5 hours i got like 7 hugs from cute girls that apparently think noobs are cute.

LEVEL -3 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait a minute. When did cute girls start playing D&D?

Go to gencon sometime. Every other girl is hot as hell.

Kepler
October 8th, 2006, 12:38 PM
its good to b a noob.

noobs get hugs :)

i went to play dnd at game xchange today. over the course of 5 hours i got like 7 hugs from cute girls that apparently think noobs are cute.

LEVEL -3 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait a minute. When did cute girls start playing D&D?

Go to gencon sometime. Every other girl is hot as hell.

I'll check it out someday.

D-Dyzzle
October 10th, 2006, 09:07 PM
hey yall, just found an awsome dnd forums site with 2k plus members:

http://www.planetadnd.com/forums/index.php

in case yall cant figure out the obvious, if you see D-Dyzzle on that site, its me.