Sidekick Scenarios

[Wolvie]

Sidekick Scenarios

Intention:
To create awesome scenarios in collaboration by the new SuperScapers
To learn how to write scenarios together, and maybe in time Campaigns..

Desirable Outcome:
A lot of great thematic scenarios, based on different story's from the comic universe.
Downloadable PDF files, with everything about the created scenarios

Rules:
We find a story that we want to alter into HeroScape, and then we work on one Scenario at a time. Those who are active in the Thread finds a scenario based on disusions, till an agreement is ready.
We respect each other, and discuss issues in proper manner.

Roles:
Everybody is allowed to express their opinion, and so far there is no kind of hierarchy in the thread.

Timeline:
When we get this thread up and running we'll probably figure out a way to set a time-limit for our projects, but until then, lets just have some fun, and see how we work together..

[Wolvie]

Soo.. Should we start the discussions :)
Not really sure where to begin, but hopefully we'll learn how to handle this subject in time :)

Maybe we should just begin throwing in some titles that would be fun to work on, and then take it from there..

I Would love to do something with these titles:
Secret War
Secret Wars
Dark Reign
Messiah Complex
X-force (the new one)
Anything funny with DeadPool
New Avengers stuff
World War Hulk
more to come

As you can see I'm a Marvel Guy, but I'm still interested in working on DC stuff as well, theres nothing Wiki can't tell me anyway :)

well here we go! anybody on board..

[Cavalier]

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[Balantai]

You should probably establish which figures are eligible for your scenarios. If you open it up to all custom figures, it's possible that broken figures break down your game. I would suggest limiting it to Official Heroscape, C3G, NM24 and Up and Coming figures.

[Balantai]

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Did Cav fall asleep in here?

[wulfhunter667]

You should probably establish which figures are eligible for your scenarios. If you open it up to all custom figures, it's possible that broken figures break down your game. I would suggest limiting it to Official Heroscape, C3G, NM24 and Up and Coming figures.
That's an excellent idea. Limiting the types of figures to be used would certainly help.
Insofar as my end, I can help a bit with the DC end of things... A little bit anyway.
If you're just wanting to do big events in the DCverse, then might I suggest you start at the new beginning with Crisis and go from there. Maybe Legends, Knightfall, Death of Superman, Identity Crisis, Infinite Crisis, and so on and so forth. That'll get you started at least. :D

[Adam Souza]

You should probably establish which figures are eligible for your scenarios. If you open it up to all custom figures, it's possible that broken figures break down your game. I would suggest limiting it to Official Heroscape, C3G, NM24 and Up and Coming figures.

That's a great idea.

I think the next step would be to look at the pool of charecters and see who is available.

There is no point in picking a theme that doesn't have the appropriate cast of heroes/villains available.

[IAmBatman]

Current pool:

Superman
Batman
Hawkgirl
Black Canary
Green Arrow
Two-Face
Joker
Catwoman
Count Vertigo
Solomon Grundy
Darkseid
Professor X
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Beast
Iceman
Angel
Pyro
Magneto
Mystique
Blob Toad
Sentinels
Civilians
Street Thugs
Beat Cops

[Wolvie]

Great work with the list bat, and yeah so far we should use the cards that C3G made and the official ones, but if an story fits well to be scaped, it might be too dificult, but then we should decide which cards to use in fellowship..

I have an Idea for choosing the first Scenario to write,
if every one who wants to be in on this each write one choice, and then afterwerds we decide which too use by voting, and you can not vote for you own, how does that sound..

or should we narrow it down by seeing which we can do with the characters from bats list above?

[IAmBatman]

Yes, I should have specified, those are the C3G cards that add to your pool.
Spider-man, Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Silver Surfer, Thanos, Abomination, Doctor Doom, Venom, and Red Skull from the official stuff would be available as well.
And then anything else you find usable for your purposes.

[Adam Souza]

Abomination
Angel
Batman
Beast
Beat Cops
Black Canary
Blob
Captain America
Catwoman
Civilians
Count Vertigo
Cyclops
Darkseid
Doctor Doom
Green Arrow
Hawkgirl
Hulk
Iceman
Iron Man
Jean Grey
Joker
Magneto
Mystique
Professor X
Pyro
Red Skull
Sentinels
Silver Surfer
Solomon Grundy
Spider-man
Street Thugs
Superman
Toad
Thanos
Two-Face
Venom

Black = Marvel Master Set
Blue = C3G Release
Red = ?
Green = ?

[Adam Souza]

What about a Scenario where Deadpool must rescue Bob ?

There are a ton of Deadpool Customs, even a C3G one in the works, and there is a UCS approved Bob.

Break out some plastic Dinosaurs (Grinmak), and let teh hilarity ensue !!

[Wolvie]

aaaw. that sounds swell.. I'm in..:thumbsup:

[Scapemage]

You should probably establish which figures are eligible for your scenarios. If you open it up to all custom figures, it's possible that broken figures break down your game. I would suggest limiting it to Official Heroscape, C3G, NM24 and Up and Coming figures.
He-Hem!:grumble: AND CMD figures.

[Scapemage]

Abomination
Angel
Batman
Beast
Beat Cops
Black Canary
Blob
Captain America
Catwoman
Civilians
Count Vertigo
Cyclops
Darkseid
Doctor Doom
Gorilla Grodd
Green Arrow
Hawkgirl
Hulk
Iceman
Iron Man
Jean Grey
Joker
Magneto
Mystique
Professor X
Pyro
Red Skull
Sentinels
Silver Surfer
Solomon Grundy
Spider-man
Street Thugs
Superman
Toad
Thanos
Two-Face
Venom
Weather Wizard

Black = Marvel Master Set
Blue = C3G Release
Red = CMD Release
Green = ?


How about that please.

[Cavalier]

You should probably establish which figures are eligible for your scenarios. If you open it up to all custom figures, it's possible that broken figures break down your game. I would suggest limiting it to Official Heroscape, C3G, NM24 and Up and Coming figures.
He-Hem!:grumble: AND CMD figures.
Or not.

[Scapemage]

:wtf!:WHy not? They're just as official as C3G figures!:pray:

[Cavalier]

:wtf!:WHy not? They're just as official as C3G figures!:pray:
Just expressing my opinion (as I have no part in this nor authority to make decisions), but as it wasn't included in the list by the previous poster, then maybe not.

[Scapemage]

Just saying I want to have them included, because are figures are looking pretty good so far. I've got a great idea for a campaign that I'll adress when we reach maps.

[Griffin]

Great idea Wolvie. I look forward to seeing some great stuff come out of this. :up:

[Griffin]

:wtf!:WHy not? They're just as official as C3G figures!:pray:Just saying here, but there is nothing Official about any Custom project.




Wolvie, feel free to use C3G units if you want to, no pressure. You should feel free to play with any custom toy you want to. Just make sure that you have lots of FUN!!! :)

[Scapemage]

Agreed.

[Wolvie]

so we have one idea brought up yet, guess we start with that..
Something DeadPool! can't be less then awesome then :)

Should we maybe start to find a comic we wan't to be inspired by in the making, so that we have a commen start point..

[wulfhunter667]

:wtf!:WHy not? They're just as official as C3G figures!:pray:Just saying here, but there is nothing Official about any Custom project.




Wolvie, feel free to use C3G units if you want to, no pressure. You should feel free to play with any custom toy you want to. Just make sure that you have lots of FUN!!! :)
Wow. :2cents: time already...
Wolvie, I've got to go with Griffin here. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing official about any of the custom projects in this community, C3G, CMD, NM24 or UCS. Ultimately though, the choice of which figures you want to use and write scenarios is up to you. This is your idea, and a damn good one, but insofar as I'm concerned, here at least, you are the boss, period. IMHO, if you are going to use ANY of the customs on here, you should lean toward the C3G customs, because, quite frankly, the C3Gers are extraordinarily intensive in their playtesting of the figures they create. I'm not saying that they are better, not by any stretch of the imagination, but they do test the crap out of a figure before presenting it. After that, I'd go with NM24 and UCS figures. While untested, they do take an extreme beating when it comes to design and I feel would be well worth the time and effort to use. As a member of CMD, I'd love for you to use those figures as well, but we have a great deal of work left to be done until we are ready for scenarios, but the choice is yours. You decide what you feel is best for your idea and let us know. We'll happily roll with it. :D
What about a Scenario where Deadpool must rescue Bob ?

There are a ton of Deadpool Customs, even a C3G one in the works, and there is a UCS approved Bob.

Break out some plastic Dinosaurs (Grinmak), and let teh hilarity ensue !!
This is a great idea, but, to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see something with official MS figures first so we know what direction to take in this thread. After busting chops on an official MS scenario, then move on to something more fun with customs from the community. That way, we have a clearly defined direction to take and the first bugs of this process can be worked out. Your choice, my :2cents:.

[Griffin]

I think a Spiderman VS Venom in the Bell Tower Scenario would be a great start.

A bell tower special rule that allows Spiderman to negate Venom's Spider Sense for that turn if he hits the bell or something, and a special rule where Spider Man's Spider Sense doesn't work on Venom at all.

[IAmBatman]

Well, if that's the case, hitting the bell should probably also lessen Venom's normal defense to make up for the attack differential.

[Wolvie]

:wtf!:WHy not? They're just as official as C3G figures!:pray:Just saying here, but there is nothing Official about any Custom project.




Wolvie, feel free to use C3G units if you want to, no pressure. You should feel free to play with any custom toy you want to. Just make sure that you have lots of FUN!!! :)
Wow. :2cents: time already...
Wolvie, I've got to go with Griffin here. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing official about any of the custom projects in this community, C3G, CMD, NM24 or UCS. Ultimately though, the choice of which figures you want to use and write scenarios is up to you. This is your idea, and a damn good one, but insofar as I'm concerned, here at least, you are the boss, period. IMHO, if you are going to use ANY of the customs on here, you should lean toward the C3G customs, because, quite frankly, the C3Gers are extraordinarily intensive in their playtesting of the figures they create. I'm not saying that they are better, not by any stretch of the imagination, but they do test the crap out of a figure before presenting it. After that, I'd go with NM24 and UCS figures. While untested, they do take an extreme beating when it comes to design and I feel would be well worth the time and effort to use. As a member of CMD, I'd love for you to use those figures as well, but we have a great deal of work left to be done until we are ready for scenarios, but the choice is yours. You decide what you feel is best for your idea and let us know. We'll happily roll with it. :D
What about a Scenario where Deadpool must rescue Bob ?

There are a ton of Deadpool Customs, even a C3G one in the works, and there is a UCS approved Bob.

Break out some plastic Dinosaurs (Grinmak), and let teh hilarity ensue !!
This is a great idea, but, to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see something with official MS figures first so we know what direction to take in this thread. After busting chops on an official MS scenario, then move on to something more fun with customs from the community. That way, we have a clearly defined direction to take and the first bugs of this process can be worked out. Your choice, my :2cents:.

What with the penny's anyway? don't get it...
and not sure when in the debate I called the C3G Custom cards officials, but I know there not.. But by far the best and most well balanced work in here:)

Good Idea to begin with some official cards, I'm here to learn, so I'll listen to your suggestion, A DeadPool will arrive though, Don't worry Adam.. But I think Griffin is on to something good with a Spedey Scenario.

If there is no one who protests begin time, I now Decide that A Spidey Scenario is the first that will be written to get into the whole writing together..

So the debate is now on a Spidey v.s. Venom showoff somehow! BRING IT OOOON!!

[IAmBatman]

The penny is his "2 cents worth".

[Wolvie]

Sorry.. Still don't get it:confused::(

[wulfhunter667]

Sorry.. Still don't get it:confused::(
"My two cents" and its longer version "put my two cents in" is an American idiomatic expression, taken from the original British idiom expression: to put in "my two pennies worth" or "my tuppence worth." It used to preface the tentative stating of one’s opinion. By deprecating the opinion to follow — suggesting its value is only two cents, a very small amount — the user of the phrase hopes to lessen the impact of a possibly contentious statement, showing politeness and humility. However, it is also sometimes used with irony when expressing a strongly felt opinion. The phrase is also used out of habit to preface uncontentious opinions.
So you know. It's us damn dirty Americans and our idiomatic language. :razz:

[Wolvie]

thank you for that lesson.. and people tell me it's stupid to you use time on a wierd game like this, but now who's stupid huh, Cause I just got smarter :)

[Adam Souza]

thank you for that lesson.. and people tell me it's stupid to you use time on a wierd game like this, but now who's stupid huh, Cause I just got smarter :)

Yesterday, I finally learned how to correctly determine the probability of desired dice outcomes on pools of dice. :shock:

Me am's Smartz Noh !! :D

Scapemage, I didn't include CMD mostly because I was unaware that CMD ever actually had a finished release of any charecter. That's mostly due to your posting style often being overly eager/hostile and I avoid the CMD threads to avoid it. :roll:

The Spiderman/Belltower thing is fine with me. I threw in my suggestion to scare away chirping crickets ;)

[Griffin]

The Spiderman/Belltower thing is fine with me. I threw in my suggestion to scare away chirping crickets ;)
What was your suggestion Adam? Somehow I missed it.

[Adam Souza]

So for the Scenario at hand

I was trying to think of how to do the belltower without using large amounts of the castle sets and I had an idea.

What if the Bell Tower was a series of small round maps ? One map for each level of the Bell Tower.

Then the scenario could me more a race to the top, with fighting along the way

Special Rule to encourage Spider-Man to race to top, untill he rings the Bell, Venom can completely ignore the results of Spider-Mans Spidey-Sense. After he rings the Bell, the roles are reveresed and spidey can use his spidey-sense again and venom is deprived of his Spider-Sense as he is wracked with pain

Sound good to anyone ?

[Adam Souza]

The Spiderman/Belltower thing is fine with me. I threw in my suggestion to scare away chirping crickets ;)
What was your suggestion Adam? Somehow I missed it.

Deadpool Rescues Bob Again: It must be Thursday

Someone else commented though that we might want to stay with official charecters for our first project here, and I'm happy either way.

[Griffin]

The Spiderman/Belltower thing is fine with me. I threw in my suggestion to scare away chirping crickets ;)
What was your suggestion Adam? Somehow I missed it.

Deadpool Rescues Bob Again: It must be Thursday

Someone else commented though that we might want to stay with official charecters for our first project here, and I'm happy either way.
Oh OK. I got that, I just didn't know that was you.

[Griffin]

So for the Scenario at hand

I was trying to think of how to do the belltower without using large amounts of the castle sets and I had an idea.

What if the Bell Tower was a series of small round maps ? One map for each level of the Bell Tower.

Then the scenario could me more a race to the top, with fighting along the way

Special Rule to encourage Spider-Man to race to top, untill he rings the Bell, Venom can completely ignore the results of Spider-Mans Spidey-Sense. After he rings the Bell, the roles are reveresed and spidey can use his spidey-sense again and venom is deprived of his Spider-Sense as he is wracked with pain

Sound good to anyone ?Enhh... This isn't my project, so Wolvie can include my opinion here if he wants to, but if it doesn't look like a bell tower, I am just not gonna be interested in it. The greatest thing about Heroscape and other tabletop miniatures games is aesthetics and textures. Meaning, I want to hold Spiderman in my hand when moving him, and I want to be able to place him on a very tall bell tower and look down while I try to imagine what it would be like to swing like him, and if he ever gets vertigo. Maybe that's just me, but I also make sound effects when playing too, cause I am a big gaming dork. ;)

"Spiderman attacks your Venom with a Web Special Attack "Phsssh" all skulls baby".

"Venom senses the attack and "Swoosh" swings away." :D

[Adam Souza]

We rolled with Spiderman and Venom for easy access, and I was just trying to do the same with map requirements.

If someone wants to design an awesome multilayered Bell Tower Map and be happy to ooh and ahh, but most players I know won't go through the effort, or have the required materials, to make it.

[Griffin]

If someone wants to design an awesome multilayered Bell Tower Map and be happy to ooh and ahh, but most players I know won't go through the effort, or have the required materials, to make it.
So most people you play Heroscape with don't have a castle set that they are willing to build into a bell tower for a Spiderman / Venom fight? You may want to find a few new people to play Heroscape with. :) I know that most of the people I play games with, would want to be in on that action. :D

[Drewman-chu]

I saw this thread and I think it has a lot of potential. I think some hurdles have already appeared so I would approach it this way: What makes a good scenario? I would say these factors. 1. compelling story elements 2. a good map to play on 3. interesting strategic elements. 4. figures and cards to use. I think most people will agree if put all those together you could have a great scenario.
The question is how to go about it. I would use some of the official Heorscape Scenarios as blueprints. By that I mean, what was fun or interesting about playing them? I see two basic approaches you could try: Create a scenario with a existing strong thematic element( something from the comics) or create a original scenario with great story.
Both will be very challenging to get all those elements to work together. I think the second approach would be easier to accomplish but the first would be more difficult but ultimately more satisfying. Always remember everything is maleable: story, maps, cards, and to some degree figures. "It's your universe" to qoute Marvel. I would take the "Field of Dreams" approach, "If you build it they will come". But you need to keep in mind what resources are needed. It's tough to do the Galactus scenario without the $90 Galactus figure. Or the Savage Land scenario without the Ticalla Jungle sets.
So I have to admit that the Spider-man vs Venom doesn't seem like a great way to start. I think the story elements need to be so good to compell you to make great map. The Bell Tower wouldn't do that for me. What do other people think?

[wulfhunter667]

I see what you're saying here, Drew, and, for the most part, I agree. But the thing you have to remember is, this is mostly just an exercise in creation, if I'm understanding Wolvie's original intent here. The purpose I got from what he wants is just to create excellent scenarios and get good feedback. I'll be honest with you, I've never even played any of the scenarios I've seen on this site. It's not because they aren't great. The stuff C3G is doing is phenomenal. It's not that I personally don't have the resources to make the maps. Goodness knows I've dump a WHOLE lot of money into this hobby of mine. It has more to do with the fact that I can take elements from those maps I see and like and create my own battelfield to play on. That, more than anything is why I look at, download and keep other's maps. And honestly, making a map from the directions is a long and painful process. I personally would just rather throw a map together in 30 minutes or less than spend the day building someone else's map to play for an hour and then tear it back down. The point I'm trying to make here is that you get out of this what you put into it. Maybe you won't like or use the scenarios we create, maybe you will. But in helping us to create them, you know better the ends and outs of what we're doing and how to build a better mousetrap at the end of the day. :2cents:

[Wolvie]

ooh such long messages, keep it simple guys :)
for any critique given on the way this has been handled, I can only say thank you, I started this thread with intention of learning how to write scenarios, and even more so, to do it with other "newbies" and with the help from the more experienced players.. Remember that when answering posts..

I've build an Idea for a bell tower concept.. but I don't have VS so I'll upload some pics ;)

[Balantai]

I'd love to see this scenario only use the Marvel Master Set and 1 Castle Set. It can be a very simple fun scenario on a very simple small map.

[Griffin]

I'd love to see this scenario only use the Marvel Master Set and 1 Castle Set. It can be a very simple fun scenario on a very simple small map.
I absolutely agree. :up:

[wulfhunter667]

I'd love to see this scenario only use the Marvel Master Set and 1 Castle Set. It can be a very simple fun scenario on a very simple small map.
I absolutely agree. :up:
I did a little something similiar over the weekend. 2 MS sets, 1 Castle, some trees for flavour, and a Lexan Mat. Take a look...
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0001-1.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0003.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0004.jpg

Not a fan of VS and not real good at using it, but this is kinda a start. :shrug:

[Wolvie]

Looks great wulf, I would love a taller tower, but otherwise, really like it. Don't use VS either, but I'm trying to build something as well :)

[Scapemage]

I'd love to see this scenario only use the Marvel Master Set and 1 Castle Set. It can be a very simple fun scenario on a very simple small map.
I absolutely agree. :up:
I did a little something similiar over the weekend. 2 MS sets, 1 Castle, some trees for flavour, and a Lexan Mat. Take a look...
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0001-1.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0003.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0004.jpg

Not a fan of VS and not real good at using it, but this is kinda a start. :shrug:
Great map! I love seeing those CMD figures in action!

[wulfhunter667]

I'd love to see this scenario only use the Marvel Master Set and 1 Castle Set. It can be a very simple fun scenario on a very simple small map.
I absolutely agree. :up:
I did a little something similiar over the weekend. 2 MS sets, 1 Castle, some trees for flavour, and a Lexan Mat. Take a look...
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0001-1.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0003.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll92/wulfhunter667/DSCI0004.jpg

Not a fan of VS and not real good at using it, but this is kinda a start. :shrug:
Great map! I love seeing those CMD figures in action!
Hate to bust your bubble, but those figures are not CMD, they are from my personal thread, and the Joker is a custom modified figure.

[Wolvie]

I just got my second tower set so maybe I should get back on this and build the map for a spedey v.s. Venom scenario