Movie Discussion - 300

[dra(gon)]

the trailer for 300 is up :shock:

http://mftm.blogspot.com/2006/09/300-2007-promo-trailer-scoop.html
damm an other must see movie.

link from Hex_Enduction_Hour

[Rhydderch]

the trailer for 300 is up :shock:

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2773069
damm an other must see movie.

edit. the trailer is gone

Darn. I want the trailer back up. I'm looking forward to this one. The graphic novel (or comic... not sure what it technically ranks as) was really good. I hope they'll be able to translate the rhythmic flow of the comic into the movie.

Oh well. I'm sure the trailer can still be found elsewhere. Google will do wonders, I'm sure. Now to wait for someone else to do the work for me... :P

[Euryon]

Ouch, I cant watch it at work... Looking forward to the movie. The graphic novel is a lot of fun... Those who like accuracy and are unable to suspend belief dont like it... I like accuracy but I can handle fiction, so im a big fan, though I think "Gates of Fire" is even better.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

http://mftm.blogspot.com/2006/09/300-2007-promo-trailer-scoop.html


Total Awesomesness.

[netherspirit]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/netherspirit/Smilies/eek2.gif

Looks pretty awesome.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Appears like the enitre movie will be shot blue/green screen like Sin City or Sky Captain.
I'm not against this type of filmmaking. It makes for a different movie experience altogether.
Btw. I think I'm going to want Spartans for a future Heroscape unit!

[Euryon]

Seen the trailer, and yeah, it looks pretty cool. Pretty good lift from the comic book...

As for Spartan HS unit...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/Euryon/spartan_hoplites.jpg
One of my first ones! (Yeah its crap, but what ya gonna do?)

[RichardD]

I spy a wargamer! (I've got far too much 15mm lead in my cupboard upstairs to criticize, BTW)

What ever happened to the Gates Of Fire movie project? Last I heard was about 5 years ago - Clooney's name linked with the project, then *poof* nothing.

Shame really - good book, good battle, and for a while back there it seemed like Hollywood was willing to bankroll expensive films set in the ancient world (actually, I think I just answered my own question as to what happened - Troy, then Alexander, is what happened).

[dickflea]

Oh my days......that's absolutely awesome

[dra(gon)]

historical movies are really hard today, look troy the orginal story is 1000 better when that peterson story. i got the orginal , and a translation from gusatav schwab, , and an audio version(funny with the german orginal brad pit speaker :wink: ) the german movie troy version had the german nicolas cage speaker :? . wtf. peterson chage al lot realy a lot and missed things. troy is more fantasy in the orginal.


300 had one millers novelwith kind of a story, snyder seems also add many things.

movies like gladiator seems in the first look cool, but i think the story in some parts are silly. but i wait for gladiator2 with hope a better sequel.

[Uprising]

That trailer rocked. I can't wait till that comes out. My GF is a librarian and she orders Graphic Novels for adults at her library. I guess Frank Miller is quite popular. I asked her to check it out for me.

[reapersaurus]

If anyone wants a movie review (with spoilers and opinions), read a good discussion here:

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=3060232

[Hahma]

It looks pretty freaking cool.

[DFlynSqrl]

Wow! I think I'll have to pull 300 off the bookshelf and reread it again tonight! :D

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Wow! I think I'll have to pull 300 off the bookshelf and reread it again tonight! :D

I may do the same this weekend. It's not my favorite Miller graphic novel, but it's great nonetheless. The long format of the book/pages is a neat idea, but also bugs me a little.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Seen the trailer, and yeah, it looks pretty cool. Pretty good lift from the comic book...

As for Spartan HS unit...

One of my first ones! (Yeah its crap, but what ya gonna do?)

I was thinking of these guys when I made wishlist request for a spartan Heroscape unit! Those figures are rockin'.

[yagyuninja]

That looks AWESOME! Thanks for the link.

[Annerios]

I have not read that graphic novel, but I've been looking forward to this film since I saw the first images from it a while back.

Zack Snyder did an admirable job on the recent Dawn of the Dead and I have high hopes for this film.

[netherspirit]

Just finished reading the graphic novel....

WOW good stuff. Can't wait to see the movie.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Just finished reading the graphic novel....

WOW good stuff. Can't wait to see the movie.

Still waiting to hear back from you on Watchmen, Nether. Especially the famous Rorschach issue.

[yagyuninja]

What's the famous Rorschach issue? That he...um...rules?

[netherspirit]

The trailer is getting pulled down from every site it was up at...

[netherspirit]

BAH! I can't find it anywhere...

[netherspirit]

Okay its still on Google Video, but who knows for how long. Warner Brothers is on a rampage to get it pulled.

If you haven't watched this trailer yet, DO IT NOW.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5671297318955432948&q=300+trailer

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Warner Brothers is on a rampage to get it pulled.




Why?

[netherspirit]

Copyright infringement would be the most logical guess.

I imagine google has permission, but if they don't it will be gone.

[Annerios]

Here you go. While it lasts:

http://filmnation.blogspot.com/

[netherspirit]

In case anyone is curious the music from the trailer is Nine Inch Nails - Just Like You Imagined

[netherspirit]

Gone from Google now.

[LilNewbie]

Dang, that looks awesome!

Newb.

[Annerios]

In case anyone is curious the music from the trailer is Nine Inch Nails - Just Like You Imagined

The use of that song worked really well.

For those that read the graphic novel, does this look like a Sin City level adaptation from what they show in the trailer?

[dra(gon)]

if you have read sin city part 3"the big killing" there was a monolog about the 300 from dright(cut out the movie) year later miller make the 300 comic)

hard to saythe used millers artwork und colors, also most of this pics, but some scens are new. it will not be a 1:1 like sin city.

the pics look like more like miller and his wife had copy old greek pics.

[Venom]

looks great!!

[netherspirit]

In case anyone is curious the music from the trailer is Nine Inch Nails - Just Like You Imagined

The use of that song worked really well.

For those that read the graphic novel, does this look like a Sin City level adaptation from what they show in the trailer?

I just read it yesterday, and most of the scenes from the trailer look to be almost EXACTLY the same. I did a little research and found out that the graphic novel, while he did take some artistic liberties, it was pretty historically accurate, like the quote about the arrows blocking out the sun and the spartan saying "Then we will fight in the shade" was apparently really said during the conflict.

[Euryon]

The graphic novel is historically accurate in the same way that the movie "The last samurai" is - and even then the contrast is stark - the depiction of Samurai is about 90% accurate - the depiction of the Spartans in "300" is almost completely wrong - they got the gender right, not much else.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Copyright infringement would be the most logical guess.

I imagine google has permission, but if they don't it will be gone.

No gossipy news? The trailer shouldn't be shown at all? Is the trailer a leak?

What's the famous Rorschach issue? That he...um...rules?

Did you read Watchmen, Yagyuninja?



For those that read the graphic novel, does this look like a Sin City level adaptation from what they show in the trailer?

Yeah! But in the trailer - before the king pushes the messenger down the well - he turns and looks at his wife for approval. That doesn't happen in the graphic novel.

[netherspirit]

The graphic novel is historically accurate in the same way that the movie "The last samurai" is - and even then the contrast is stark - the depiction of Samurai is about 90% accurate - the depiction of the Spartans in "300" is almost completely wrong - they got the gender right, not much else.

Thats not what I read...

[yagyuninja]

Did you read Watchmen, Yagyuninja?
Yeah, a couple times. Is it something obvious that I should remember? Now i'm embarassed. :oops:

Euryon, now I'm curious. What were the spartans relaly like then?

[Annerios]

I am certainly not expecting a historically accurate movie out of it. :rofl:

I believe in the actual historical accounts it was a combined force of 7,000 or so Greeks in the beginning (including the Spartans) against over 200,000 enemies. There is much debate about the troop numbers, etc. Check out the info on Wiki here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

It is interesting to note that there was a brave group of 700 Thespians led by Demophilus, that were not professional soldiers like the Spartans, that stuck it out with the Spartans after the other Greeks left against those overwhelming forces. Brave men.

The film looks somewhat fantasy oriented. There is a shot in the trailer of a gigantic looking man with blades for hands or something. Some of the images remind me of the PS2 game God of War. I wonder if that game was influenced by Miller's work.

[netherspirit]

Just finished reading the graphic novel....

WOW good stuff. Can't wait to see the movie.

Still waiting to hear back from you on Watchmen, Nether. Especially the famous Rorschach issue.

Getting ready to go read it.

Check this out...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/

[Annerios]

Just finished reading the graphic novel....

WOW good stuff. Can't wait to see the movie.

Still waiting to hear back from you on Watchmen, Nether. Especially the famous Rorschach issue.

Getting ready to go read it.

Check this out...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/

Watchmen as a film has been attempted so many times and has never made it on screen. I've always hoped it would be done by as a mini-series (by HBO or someone else that spends some money on their productions). It is a long tale to compress into a 2 or 3 hour movie.

I've read various scripts for it and none have been that great. They always try to change the ending or don't want to embrace the whole nuclear threat issue or the time setting that was depicted in the comics.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Did you read Watchmen, Yagyuninja?
Yeah, a couple times. Is it something obvious that I should remember? Now i'm embarassed. :oops:



It's Rorschach's spotlight/origin issue is all. Just a near-entire issue dedicated to Moore's nod to Steve Ditko's Mr. A and The Question.
Great Wiki info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_%28comics%29

Interesting to note: Rorshach's mask changes blot patterns throughout the entire series except at some certain moments.

[Euryon]

Zack Snyder is meant to be directing Watchmen isnt he? See how 300 turns out to see if that'll work. Im not a massive fan of the comic - I love the mariner sub-storyline though... A raft made of dead sharks is great...

Anyway, about the inaccuracy of Frank Millers 300...

Spartans didnt walk around naked, much less fight this way. They were heavy hoplite infantry, and walked around as clothed as most other greeks of the period.

Clean shaven-ness was a pretty much necessity, so no beardy kings or what not.

As mentioned, the numbers are disputable (although this bothers me little, whatever you include, a very small force made a signifcant stand against a nearly innumerable one) - but I feel the influence of the Thespians and Athenians, etc, should be noted stronger.

The wall made of flesh for mortar? nope.

Persian Immortals didnt look anything like the scary chinese-style dudes they are in the comic and film.

Elephants ffs? ITs possible Xerxes had some foreign animals, but the Spartans chose the hot gates for the very reason it would 1) remove numerical supremacy for a long time, and 2) would be infantry ground - and almost inacessible for horses, let alone chariots and elephants.

Leoniads didnt almost win the battle with a heroic last breath spear throw against Xerxes...

Sparta werent really a vestige of democracy at the time, nor particulay fighting for it.

Ok, thats what I know off the top of my head. I recommend "Gates of Fire" for a closer historical view of thermopylae (though not perfect).

Nevertheless, I love the way the battle is fictionalised, for all I care, it does what it should and makes the things that matter stand out. I am very much looking forward to it (hell, I started the other 300 thread here a couple months back...)

EDIT: Oh, and Rorscrech is probably my favourite comic hero, even though im not a fan of watchmen...

[yagyuninja]

Did you read Watchmen, Yagyuninja?
Yeah, a couple times. Is it something obvious that I should remember? Now i'm embarassed. :oops:



It's Rorschach's spotlight/origin issue is all. Just a near-entire issue dedicated to Moore's nod to Steve Ditko's Mr. A and The Question.
Great Wiki info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_%28comics%29

Interesting to note: Rorshach's mask changes blot patterns throughout the entire series except at some certain moments.

Oh, I remember reading something about that before. I've never read those...

[Velenne]

o...m...g

That was incredible. I'll be going to find this at B&N now...

[Annerios]

Just as a HS sidenote, Valhallan history has an equivalent tale:

"It is said that at Willenshire Tombs, against all odds, Jandar was able to hold off many advancing battalions of kyrie warriors using only the Katana of Thorian until reinforcements arrived and the battle was won."

Jandar is a badass. I think he would have a bit in common with those Spartans.

I've always liked Euryon's card for the Hoplite squad and saved it in hopes of eventually getting some suitable figures.

[dra(gon)]

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erste_Schlacht_bei_den_Thermopylen

the german page said some othe things (translate)

[Annerios]

The new trailer is now up which will be attached to The Departed in theaters. Check it out:

http://www.jurassicpunk.com/movies/300.shtml

It is a bit different from the one I posted a link to on page 3.

I just got a hardcover edition of 300 and Pressfield's Gates of Fire as gifts this week. The Miller comics seemed really brief, so I can see why there are hints in the trailer of expanding parts for characters like Queen Gorgo, etc. It is a shame we have to wait until March 2007 to see the film!

[Venom]

i can't wait

[LilNewbie]

Wow! I've got Pressfield's book on a wish list at Amazon. Gonna have to pick that up. March is so far away. :D

Newb.

[Annerios]

Wow! I've got Pressfield's book on a wish list at Amazon. Gonna have to pick that up. March is so far away. :D

Newb.

I finished it a few days ago. It was an interesting read. Most of it actually involves a lot of the things that led up to the battle and the Spartan training, etc. There are not many characters from that book in the comic other than Xerxes and Leonidas. There are some that are equivalents, though.

The battles in the book are absolutely brutal. The comic book is mild by comparison. If they get a fraction of that stuff in the battles on-screen, getting that R rating will be challenging.

Here is a cool website that compares panels of the comic from the images in the film trailer:

http://www.solaceincinema.com/2006/10/04/300-comic-to-screen-comparison/

Great stuff!


http://static.flickr.com/115/262551703_f3ff6493db_o.jpg

[LilNewbie]

That's a great site and it's fantastic he is tyring to frame scenes exactly like to comic book. I hope it doesn't restrict him though (doubt that from the look of the trailers.) This looks like one of the movies to see in 2007.

Newb.

[Grungebob]

This movie is so on my radar!!!! Anybody else think this just looks like it is going to absolutely rock?

http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/

[eldurand]

I do! I have not read Frank Miller's graphic novel, but the clips I have seen of the movie look awesome.

We had a thread on Thermopylae about a week ago, and I went out and bought "Gates of Fire," a novel about the battle - and it was terrific as well.

Edit: Found the other thread. (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=3654)

[netherspirit]

I'll let you merge this GB. ;)

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=2890&highlight=300

[Grungebob]

:lastweek: :shrug: :surrender:

[markwars]

I loved 300! :D I can't wait to see this. :)

[netherspirit]

Yeah I read the GN shortly after I heard about the movie, and I can't wait to see it.

[Drumline3469]

Dang! Friday I was at the mall seeing a 9:40 movie with my GF and we got there around 8 because she wanted to shop. She drug me through the crappy sections of B. Dalton and I snuck off to read 300. I was looking at it's amazing glory for all of 15 seconds when I hear "How did I know you'd be here?!" and back to the cook books it was. I want to buy it, but I haven't had the chance. It looked AMAZING from the whole 15 seconds I had to look at the book and the trailer was fantastic. I really liked Sin City and hopefull 300 will be as good if not better.

[dra(gon)]

:headbang: the new trailer is out

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1529799&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300

itrocks more :!:

[Venom]

man i was wondering when we were gonna hear more from this. this is awesome!

[Hahnarama]

Once again all I can say is that it is taken RIGHT off the pages of the Graphic Novel. The reject/beast looks awesome. My only question is why does "Stumblious" have blonde hair???

[Euryon]

Well the ancient greek people were mostly blonde-blue eyed (the people wrongly referred to as Aryan); but yeah, in the comic im sure they're all dark haired... But who knows why? Maybe the actor was perfect in every way except hair colour?

[EyeOfSauron]

Sidenote. I just saw Gerard Butler (main star of 300) in another movie: Beowulf and Grendel.

I thought it was pretty good...not what I expected but good.

I also saw him in Attila. He's on his way to becoming another Russell Crowe.

[netherspirit]

New Trailer on Apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer2/

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

New Trailer on Apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer2/
That's looking sooo amazingly cool! It's going to be a must see in the theater!

[netherspirit]

New Trailer on Apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer2/
That's looking sooo amazingly cool! It's going to be a must see in the theater!

Yep, I haven't been to the theater in a long time.

[Annerios]

New Trailer on Apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer2/
That's looking sooo amazingly cool! It's going to be a must see in the theater!

Yep, I haven't been to the theater in a long time.

Me neither. I mostly prefer to watch stuff on DVD, but I am going to head out to the theater for this one. It just screams to be seen on the big screen.

[netherspirit]

New Trailer on Apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer2/
That's looking sooo amazingly cool! It's going to be a must see in the theater!

Yep, I haven't been to the theater in a long time.

Me neither. I mostly prefer to watch stuff on DVD, but I am going to head out to the theater for this one. It just screams to be seen on the big screen.

I haven't been because there hasn't been anything that couldn't wait until DVD or that just had to be seen at the theater. That and its so expensive, I can wait 3-6 months (sometimes sooner) and buy the DVD for less than going to see it in the theater.

This movie looks amazing, it totally looks like something that would be awesome on the big screen and I can't wait.

[Annerios]

I haven't been because there hasn't been anything that couldn't wait until DVD or that just had to be seen at the theater. That and its so expensive, I can wait 3-6 months (sometimes sooner) and buy the DVD for less than going to see it in the theater.

This movie looks amazing, it totally looks like something that would be awesome on the big screen and I can't wait.

Yeah, the movies this year have not been too thrilling. About the only thing I would have liked to see on the big screen were those Kraken attacks in Pirates. That must have been impressive.

The last movie that was worth seeing in the theater for me was V for Vendetta at the Imax. That was awesome.

My main complaint about the theater is the bloody people. I've only been to the theater once since I moved to Texas and the crowds were ok, but in Miami, people have become so inconsiderate that it completely turned me off from going to the movies (which is saying a lot, because I used to go at least once a week). Before I left, unless you were going to an art house theater or fan oriented venue, it would usually suck.

[Euryon]

Is that new? That trailers been out for a while.... Am I watching the wrong one?

Anyway - Ive watched the trailer about 15 times and read the comic an additional dozen times just in anticipation. I havent looked forward to a film at the cinema this much since the 1st LotR movie. Im expecting this will surpass it (for me) on the coolness level, though.

Molon Labe

[Uprising]

This just looks so kick-ass.

[netherspirit]

Is that new? That trailers been out for a while.... Am I watching the wrong one?

Trailer 2 was just posted on Apple yesterday.

[TheMightyAargh]

I just peed my pants. A lot!

[Ch1can0]

and 10 days ago on yahoo ;-) Also "Spartan Training", interesting clip. the Movie Trailer in HD is great...!

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809262865/trailer

Bye, Chicano.

[Euryon]

and 10 days ago on yahoo ;-) Also "Spartan Training", interesting clip. the Movie Trailer in HD is great...!

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809262865/trailer

Bye, Chicano.

Thought so :)

I see it was Dra(gon) who posted it on the previous page.

Even so, it is a kick ass trailer... And for the first time ever, I get to use this:

:lastweek:

[Venom]

it seems like the link sends you to the 1st trailer now. it was up last night

[dragonfire]

is there an orc in the trailer. The tall ugly grey guy and the fat grey guy.

[dra(gon)]

could be ;) this movie is more fantasy als a historyfilm . and is a contex that was said in the trailer spartans are the perfeckt humans and all that like the seekers, the hugpack , and not of the persions are ugly. but it is a fantasy movie like lotr, like snaketoung, orcs the evil is looking bad.

[markwars]

I just saw the trailer during the football game...it was the first one I've seen. It looks amazing! :shock: I can't wait for this movie. :D

[Hahma]

Awesome new trailer.

On a side not kind of, I'm currently reading A storm of Swords by George R. R. Martin, the third book in the Song of Ice and Fire series. Anyway, on page 118 Ser Jorah told a story of the Three Thousand of Qohor. Basically the three thousand Unsullied stood against twenty-thousand Dothraki. Arrows fell like rain and in the end only six-hundred Unsullied survived but over there were over twelve-thousand dead Dothraki.

After seeing the trailers for The 300 more and more on TV lately and just getting to this part of the book, I thought it seemed pretty similar. While reading that story told in the book, I thought, "hey, that sounds like The 300."

Can't wait to see this movie, that's for sure.

[Drumline3469]

I'm headed to Borders to read the book tomorrow. I'm in the middle of the Infinate Crisis, but it can wait for 300. I want to see this movie so bad. The trailer gives me goosebumps. I can't wait!!

[markwars]

Did anyone see the sneak preview of 300 during last night's episode of Heroes? Awesome, awesome stuff. :D

[Dennys]

I am dissapointed at some of hollywoods rewriting of history into total fantasy.

As pointed out before the Spartans were heavy hoplites, fully armoured (Shield, Curiass, Grieves) Their spear at 2.5m long outdistanced the Persian spear by almost a meter.

The battle was a pure strategic choice of terrain with the spartans on the high ground with a stone wall in a pass, forming a typical shield wall/semi phalanx and basically letting the persians come to them for the slaughter. In fact most persians died from being crushed to death by their comrades as they tried to advance into the spears. Even the first Imortal assault did little to no damage.

Greek Army:
300 Spartans (the Hipeis)
2800 mixed Peloponnesians
900 Spartan Helots
700 Thespians
400 Thebians
1000 Phocians & Locrians

Persian Army
Approx 210-250,000 includng the 10,000 Immortals, approximately 8,000 (Alhough some estimates inflate this to 80,000) cavalry. Approximately 70% were light skirmishers and archer/javalineers.

On the final day of the battle It was only the Spartans, Thebians and Thespians (Since the Phocians had abandoned the pass leading to the Spartan rear, allowing the Immortals to circle around them).

Leonidas is said to have said on the last day " Have a good breakfast lads; as tonight we shall dine in Hades"

[netherspirit]

I am dissapointed at some of hollywoods rewriting of history into total fantasy.

Its based on the graphic novel by the same name.

[Euryon]

Like Nether said, its based on a Graphic Novel, by Frank Miller. Miller says himself its not meant to be a factual depiction of Thermopylae (Gates of Fire does that pretty well), but an "artists impression", with oodles of poetic licence taken.

[Onacara]

300 comes out the day my son is being born...think my wife will be mad if I go see it that day? :P

[markwars]

Not even an army of Spartans would be able to save you.

[dra(gon)]

the movie comes soon. and now it seems frank miller writes a sequel, unda second movie too?

Mark Canton is a survivor. A born Hollywood insider, the son of PR maven Arthur Canton, he ran production at Warner Bros. Pictures and rose to chairman of Columbia TriStar Pictures, where he infamously promoted the 1993 Arnold Schwarzenegger vehicle "The Last Action Hero" as "probably the greatest action movie of all time." And he got beat up royally by the debacle that was Jon Peters and Peter Guber's tenure running Sony Pictures Entertainment.

But as the Hollywood cliche goes, you're only as good as your last picture. Canton is awaiting the opening of a potential blockbuster that should score and at the same time restore his faded luster. That movie is "300," Zack Snyder's adaptation of Frank Miller's graphic novel about the legendary Battle of Thermopylae that pitted 300 of the best Spartan warriors against the endless armies of Xerxes in 480 B.C. The movie has tested through the roof in early research previews, especially with the young male demographic, and Canton, who always has been a relentlessly gifted marketer, is making sure that people know it. Warners will launch the stylized CG actioner starring the well-muscled Gerard Butler ("The Phantom of the Opera") at the Berlin Film Festival this month. It opens stateside March 9.

Admittedly, Canton has much to live down. The studio exec-turned-indie producer will be cited by film historians as the Columbia suit who paid Jim Carrey $20 million for 1996's "The Cable Guy," a payout that permanently inflated talent salaries, creating the overpriced studio budgets that still warp the film industry. After he left Columbia TriStar, Canton's fortunes sagged as he set up the Canton Co. at Warners and then suffered an unfortunate stint running Mike Ovitz's movie division at Artists Management Group.

Canton moved on, finding and losing money on the German NeuerMarket, then raising more financial backing, anticipating what has become the trend for high-end producers. Canton is now the chairman and CEO of Atmosphere Entertainment MM Llc., which he co-founded with investment manager Mark Kimsey in late 2003, backed by Kimsey's Daedalus Media Fund and advised by Ryan Kavanaugh's Relativity Management.

Canton learned about co-financing partnerships from his old Warners bosses Terry Semel and Bob Daly, he says over drinks at the Beverly Hills Hotel's Polo Lounge. "I was ahead of the curve. I was the first one out," he contends.
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Canton is enjoying his relatively simple life as the head of a small eight-person operation in Beverly Hills, he says, though his free-spending studio days are over. He's functioning now in a leaner, meaner Hollywood. "You have to earn it in order to get it," he says. "Gone are the days of giving out movie jackets at premieres. There's nothing fancy other than rolling up my sleeves to do the work."

Canton has movie madness in his genes. After studying history at UCLA, he started his career in the Warners mailroom, eventually rising through the studio ranks at Warners to production president. While he can claim credit for making Prince's "Purple Rain" and discovering Tim Burton, who made "Pee-wee's Big Adventure" and "Batman" for him at Warners, Canton was never a development guy invested in story arcs and third-act payoffs. He was always someone who leveraged relationships with the likes of Ovitz or Peters to grab the commercial brass ring.

He followed Peters and Guber to SPE, where they famously burned through $3 billion and released such duds as "First Knight," "Poetic Justice," "The Age of Innocence," "Lost in Yonkers" and "Striking Distance." Nor did Canton always endear himself to the town during this period. (For some amusing bad-boy tales, check out Nancy Griffin & Kim Masters' must-read tell-all "Hit & Run: How Jon Peters and Peter Guber Took Sony for a Ride in Hollywood.") But a number of hits, including "Bad Boys" and "Sense and Sensibility," were greenlighted on his watch, and after Canton departed the studio, a raft of pictures that he had set in motion scored big: "Men in Black," "As Good as It Gets," "Jerry Maguire," "My Best Friend's Wedding" and "Air Force One."

Canton has paid his dues since then. He hasn't slackened his pace as he's made such films as "Taking Lives," "Jack Frost," "Angel Eyes," "Red Planet" and George Romero's "Land of the Dead."

Thanks to that unassuming zombie sequel, Canton is poised to make the comeback of his life. At a meeting four years ago with old pal Gianni Nunnari, the Italian producer mentioned his Battle of Thermopylae project (a subject that had been developed by two studios and Michael Mann), Canton, who remembered loving 1962's "The 300 Spartans," jumped at it and persuaded him to let him partner. Canton also knew "300" graphic novelist Miller, going back to Miller's Batman novel "The Dark Knight Returns." "What do I have to do to get into '300'?" Canton asked Nunnari. Canton helped to lure Snyder. "When Zack first saw the material," Canton says, "he had a vision of how to take Frank's work and make a new-fashioned version of an epic movie."

Even after Warners' experience on the inflated megabudget disappointments "Troy" and "Alexander," Canton was able to sell his more modest period epic -- which had been gestating for five years -- to Warners execs Alan Horn and Jeff Robinov. Canton wowed them with Snyder's 90-second test of the movie. In turn, Warners brought in Legendary Pictures and Virtual Studios to co-finance the R-rated, violent and sexy $64 million period battle epic. "We live in a world in which we're at war," Canton says. "There's so much chaos and distress. This is the story of this battle, which is a real case where the few stood up against the many, united in recognizing that it really was for the greater good. Maybe people would like to think that the world is that simple now."

Warners is launching "300" in the pre-spring break March slot that worked well in the past for "The Matrix" and "Lethal Weapon." Footage from "300" stunned comic book fans at July's Comic-Con, where they demanded to see the teaser three times. "300" seamlessly blends CG environments and live-action shot against bluescreens (in Montreal), much like Miller and Robert Rodriguez's black, white and red "Sin City." But the new movie is in full color and offers a much grander scale. Instead of a series of vignettes, "300" is "one epic story shot like pop art," Canton says. "It's educational, wild. There's nothing like it."

This hugely entertaining, over-the-top action adventure uses the latest technology to bring a comic book to visceral life -- from Butler's star-making role as the heroic (and half-naked) Leonidas to bloody, hacking swordplay, a grossly deformed hunchback and a deadly shower of arrows that blots out the sky. This highly stylized graphic technique inevitably will be widely imitated. (Miller already is plotting a follow-up screenplay set a few years after "300," involving the Spartans and the ancient Greeks.)

Also in Canton's pipeline is "The Spiderwick Chronicles," a $130 million, would-be family franchise at Paramount Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies. Canton is producing with Kennedy/Marshall Prods. Again, an old relationship with the Gotham Group's Ellen Goldsmith Vein -- going back to "Jumanji," "Gremlins" and "The Goonies" -- as well as his friendship of many years with Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall, led to Canton's involvement on Mark Waters' screen adaptation (written by John Sayles) of the children's best-seller about the magical Spiderwick mansion. The film stars Freddy Highmore and Mary Louise Parker, with Nick Nolte as a vicious ogre. Industrial Light + Magic and Phil Tippet supply the visual effects for the Paramount release, scheduled for February 2008.

Clearly, Canton is in his element, and still feels the hunger to succeed. "The critical discovery for me has been to go back to what motivated me in the first place," he says. "Being involved in movies is my passion. What's gotten me off the mat is the sense of the child in all of us. I feel like the same guy as I did back in the mailroom, but with more wisdom, from the depths of experience to the heights."

[jcb231]

I still love going to the movies. It's expensive, but I don't live in Manhattan or anything so I can usually get a ticket for between 8 and 9 dollars. If I go with a friend that's all I'm out. If I go with a date I'm out twice my ticket usually, but it's still cheaper than buying the DVDs of most first-run big time movies, which are the kinds of things I want to see on a big screen and not in my home.

[Grungebob]

:gb: :beer:

[Havokscry]

I still love going to the movies. It's expensive, but I don't live in Manhattan or anything so I can usually get a ticket for between 8 and 9 dollars. If I go with a friend that's all I'm out. If I go with a date I'm out twice my ticket usually, but it's still cheaper than buying the DVDs of most first-run big time movies, which are the kinds of things I want to see on a big screen and not in my home.

I usually hit the matinee's. That's usually between $5 and $6 where I live. I don't usually buy popcorn or soda, so it's worth it for me.

[netherspirit]

http://heroscapers.com/community/images/smiles/grungebob.gifhttp://heroscapers.com/community/images/smiles/givemebeer.gif

Here ya go. Infinite Cup of Holding: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/netherspirit/Smilies/beer.gif

This movie is going to rock my socks off.

[Grungebob]

I haven't looked forward to a movie this much since ROTK.

[TheMightyAargh]

I just hope there are less wieners in the movie than in the book. I'm really not up for Brokeback Mountain 2: Passage Through the Hot Gates...if you know what I mean.

[Annerios]

http://toyfair07.asmzine.com/gallery/NECA/slides/DSC01963.jpg

Now, that's just wrong; but very funny. :twisted:

[dra(gon)]

so t300 was shown in berlin.
the jugment is "love it or hate it"
most of the viewers who like movies say awsome.

but germany is not germany with out , seen nazi thing in 300 here some of the bad rewies. but for anyone woh loves fantasy film the movie rocks.

german writers were such pussys or asholes to see 300= iraq stupid germans never die.

Oh, as dying is beautiful
Except competition: The filming of franc of Miller Comic “300” turns out to the patriotic Actionspektakel
Of Holger Kreitling

Awkward purchases to the present: The battle between Greeks and Persern at the Thermopylen 480 v. Chr. in “300”

Photo: Berlinale

Yes, Comicverfilmungen can be large art, and, Trash is something fine, it may also the department of trivial with a festival be considered. If it rummst and rumpelt, that does not have to be despise worth necessarily. The Berlinale already got over parts of “star Trek” and erheitert with “From Dusk till Dawn” a hall full serious critic. “300” however a bad piece cinema, is annoying and wrong and so ore-reactionarily that Donald Rumsfeld appears against it as Friedenstäubchen.


“The Bestie approached”, white king Leonidas of Sparta (Gerard Butler). The “endless hordes/hurdles of Asia” are said or better, the Perser, which before Greece. In July 480 v. Chr. Sparta pulls into the war, 300 soldiers - historical were probably 1000, under it many Nichtspartaner - stops on the Thermopylenpass the army of the Xerxes, until the Perser finds and into the back of the Spartaner advances a way by betrayal over the mountains. The 300 falls themselves into the open fight and dies up to the last man.

The hero song kept until today. “Wanderer, you come to Sparta, verkündige dorten, you habest us lie here seen, like the law it instructed” (Schiller translation!) heard to the education treasure of military-inspired antique friends. 1998 wrote and drew the American Comic star franc Miller “300”, a large sized Comic with little text, which told the fight of the Spartaner in brutal tablets. Since Miller with the filming of “Sin town center” (2005) as a success supplier applies, its work in the eye is seized more exactly.

“300” is on the one hand a violent Actionspektakel. The Perser muster monsters as opponents, who seem actually “Sin town center” risen. Xerxes is a mixture from HipHop natures and candidates on the Piercing world championship: a king of the Popkultur. The aesthetic procedure of director serrate Snyder is same as with “Sin town center” - around the actors computer pictures are integrated.

Even the bodies of humans are verfremdet. All 300 Spartaner have accurately the same thorax. Leonidas' breastbone looks once like the Thermopylenpass, so deeply is the furrow. The squirting blood is drawn, the weapons with grey-brown gloss occupied, which are movements as mannersistic in Comics superelevated. Separating from heads seems to have its own erotism, it flies like balls by air. Already correctly that such films are called also “NO more brainer”.

But there are on the other hand too many references that the Macher takes its topic seriously, very seriously. The political Untertöne goes the far beyond Plot: An elite unit defends the free west against the Perser, which come from Iran and into Xerxes state and unite religion. In the homeland the weak senate debates and leaves the heroes at the front in the pass. Who places the sense of the war infrage, are a cowardly Defätist and traitor. Leonidas boasts with strength and death courage, it tremendously much of the field of the honour is talked, about the size of the fight, the beauty of death, about blood, bravery, loyalty, fame, courage, hope.

Political pathos and Patriotismusquatsch are inseparably connected with the Verachtung of all civilians. A storyteller sings in addition the high song of the military in intolerable empty phrases. The death longing of the Krieger is incessant glorifiziert. Dies is super. Also hardness. The Spartaner is practically those US-marine of the antique ones. And the enemy is always the same.

The genuine Sparta was once the example for absolute twisting, blind obedience into death, unfreeness of the particular. The fact that Sparta holds now as model for the defense of the democracy has a completely bad taste. With meaning loaded Actionkino betrays its own laws. Wanderer, you go past to the cinema, geh' fast.

[Venom]

check out yahoo's exclusive clips

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/300.html

[netherspirit]

There's an awesome clip in the Interviews where a Persian says "Spartans, lay down their weapons" and the Spartans get in their Phalanx formation and Leonidas shouts "Persians, come and get them!"

Man I can't wait for this!!!

[Venom]

i've never read this comic, and when they showed the persian king standing up next to that spartan, he's HUGE!

[Sweetcurse]

Wow, just wow, that trailer looks awesome, can't wait!

[Havokscry]

I saw the trailer today again when I went to see Ghost Rider and I was covered with goosebumps.

When I got home, I was flipping through the HBO channels and came across The Phantom of the Opera. Gerard Butler, who plays King Leonidas in 300, also played the Phantom in the latest Opera remake. Now I have Andrew Lloyd Webber's music embedded in my brain.

Gerard Butler also played Beowulf and "Beowulf and Grendel". It's a pretty good movie and takes an interesting look at the whole legend.

[theats]

im tellin ya baby, you're gonna want to see this movie...
(Bruce Dickenson)

Ive got an Imax theater at the local discovery place. You think they would show it?

[Supergeek]

This might be the first movie that I see in the theater since ROTK and I figured this would be a good place for my 300th post. :)

[Drumline3469]

I've got my tickets and the day off. I CAN'T FRACKING WAIT!!!!!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

This might be the first movie that I see in the theater since ROTK and I figured this would be a good place for my 300th post. :)
That may be your 300th post,
but....

"This is Sparta!!!"

[Drumline3469]

i just finished the book again and i personally think the movie will be better. whoever plays leonidas is perfect and the plot is simple yet good and even better once they put action into the battles. the movie also seems verbatim from the book so no coolness will be lost. sorry for shortness. i did this on my wii.

[theats]

i just finished the book again and i personally think the movie will be better. whoever plays leonidas is perfect and the plot is simple yet good and even better once they put action into the battles. the movie also seems verbatim from the book so no coolness will be lost. sorry for shortness. i did this on my wii.

The Entire thing was bluescreened.

the backgrounds were strait out of the book, and so was the script.

[Drumline3469]

Yeah. I'm super excited. I loved the book, but the movie should be better because the only reason movies are ever worse than books is because they leave plot details out. 300 doesn't have an intricate plot so no details should be spared and the script is in the book so that should rock. I CAN'T FRACKING WAIT!!!!

[bad_calvin]

I have not read the book, the movie looks pretty sweet though. My son wants me to take him to see it. I am not sure if this is a good idea or not though. I don't have a problem with him seeing war violence, we have watched gladiator, lord of the rings, etc. This looks to perhaps be a bit more extreme though. My only concern with taking him is that their will be "cruelity", which the later movies do not focus on. He is in to the different mythos. One of his fav video games is "god of war" * prince of persia which they both have some violence. Does the movie have a hero? A Hero going through a hard time (army of darkness) is not scary for him either.

What do you all think? As it is right now I am not taking him, he will have to just see it on DVD after i see it. But if it is not that bad then I will take him.

[theats]

I have not read the book, the movie looks pretty sweet though. My son wants me to take him to see it. I am not sure if this is a good idea or not though. I don't have a problem with him seeing war violence, we have watched gladiator, lord of the rings, etc. This looks to perhaps be a bit more extreme though. My only concern with taking him is that their will be "cruelity", which the later movies do not focus on. He is in to the different mythos. One of his fav video games is "god of war" * prince of persia which they both have some violence. Does the movie have a hero? A Hero going through a hard time (army of darkness) is not scary for him either.

What do you all think? As it is right now I am not taking him, he will have to just see it on DVD after i see it. But if it is not that bad then I will take him.

sex is in it

[Havokscry]

I have not read the book, the movie looks pretty sweet though. My son wants me to take him to see it. I am not sure if this is a good idea or not though. I don't have a problem with him seeing war violence, we have watched gladiator, lord of the rings, etc. This looks to perhaps be a bit more extreme though. My only concern with taking him is that their will be "cruelity", which the later movies do not focus on. He is in to the different mythos. One of his fav video games is "god of war" * prince of persia which they both have some violence. Does the movie have a hero? A Hero going through a hard time (army of darkness) is not scary for him either.

What do you all think? As it is right now I am not taking him, he will have to just see it on DVD after i see it. But if it is not that bad then I will take him.

sex is in it

:shock:

Sex is in God of War. There is a button sequence early on which is pretty graphic, so if his son is able to handle that, I don't think 300 will be much worse.

Has your son seen Sin City? That was pretty violent and somewhat sexual. The sex, language, and violence will probably be somewhat on par with that. 300 will probably be a tad more violent though, probably in the range of Gladiator or Braveheart.

[bad_calvin]

I have not read the book, the movie looks pretty sweet though. My son wants me to take him to see it. I am not sure if this is a good idea or not though. I don't have a problem with him seeing war violence, we have watched gladiator, lord of the rings, etc. This looks to perhaps be a bit more extreme though. My only concern with taking him is that their will be "cruelity", which the later movies do not focus on. He is in to the different mythos. One of his fav video games is "god of war" * prince of persia which they both have some violence. Does the movie have a hero? A Hero going through a hard time (army of darkness) is not scary for him either.

What do you all think? As it is right now I am not taking him, he will have to just see it on DVD after i see it. But if it is not that bad then I will take him.

sex is in it

:shock:

Sex is in God of War. There is a button sequence early on which is pretty graphic, so if his son is able to handle that, I don't think 300 will be much worse.

Has your son seen Sin City? That was pretty violent and somewhat sexual. The sex, language, and violence will probably be somewhat on par with that. 300 will probably be a tad more violent though, probably in the range of Gladiator or Braveheart.

When he sees someone kissing he would close his eyes anyway since it is "gross". We don't concern ourselves with sex as long as it is not some x rated stuff. If it is on par with Gladiator and Braveheart as far as violence we should be good to go. I will wait til it comes out and see what others have to say about it. Thanks for the heads up.

[dra(gon)]

the 300 sec of 300

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=movies&id=1553704&vid=136403

8)

[Drumline3469]

That cinematography is nothing short of AMAZING!!!!

[Uprising]

the 300 sec of 300

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=movies&id=1553704&vid=136403

8) Ok, that gave me freaking goosebumps. I've said it before, but I can't wait for this movie man.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

"Spartans....PUSH!"
That's going to be a wild ride.

[Venom]

the 300 sec of 300

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=movies&id=1553704&vid=136403

8)

thanks for the link. that was awesome!

[Hahma]

the 300 sec of 300

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=movies&id=1553704&vid=136403

8)

Thanks for the link dra(gon), that was pretty freakin cool.

I plan on seeing it on friday with a group of buddies, should be really cool.

I watch a lot of hockey (NHL Center Ice) and have seen commercials where they combine a trailer for The 300 and hockey. They'll show a scene from The 300 and then a comparable scene from hockey and go back and forth throughout the commercial. At the end it's really cool because they have a bunch of spartans gathered and looking at The Stanley Cup on a plateau/butte or whateverl. Anyway, it was an incredible commercial tying the two together.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I'm watching it again. I'm going to need to see the full movie ASAP.
But tonight I'll read the graphic novel to get my fix!!!

[Grungebob]

:jawdrop:

[Joah]

I am going to cut out of work early this Friday.
No doubt about it. :popcorn:

[Havokscry]

Hopefully everyone got their free movie pass. :D

[Grungebob]

I am going to cut out of work early this Friday.
No doubt about it. :popcorn:I bought tickets to see it at the Imax at 4:30 on Sunday. Have a baby sitter and everything!!

[netherspirit]

I am going to cut out of work early this Friday.
No doubt about it. :popcorn:I bought tickets to see it at the Imax at 4:30 on Sunday. Have a bay sitter and everything!!

I wish it was showing at the IMax in Indy!

[Joah]

Holy Crow! I should double-check that it isn't on the Imax here.
Either way, I cannot wait.

[bad_calvin]

Hopefully everyone got their free movie pass. :D

I went to best buy this weekend, but they were all out of the documentary and free movie ticket. :(

That doesn't mean I am not going though... can't wait!

[Grungebob]

I am going to cut out of work early this Friday.
No doubt about it. :popcorn:I bought tickets to see it at the Imax at 4:30 on Sunday. Have a baby sitter and everything!!Just to clarify. I meant that I have a baby sitter to watch the kids while my wife and I go to the movie. NOT that I am taking a baby sitter to the movie..... :shock:

[Venom]

here's a Max Exclusive I found

http://www.yikers.com/video_brutal_fight_scene_from_300.html

***WARNING... VERY GORRY (?) IN OTHER WORDS LOTS OF BLOOD***

[Grungebob]

I've already seen the movie.... Just pieced together all of the available trailers and watched it last night... Great movie BTW.

[Annerios]

For those of you that are getting rabid about the release of Miller's 300 this week:

http://rebelminis.com/store/images/spartan1.jpg

King Leonidas of Sparta

http://rebelminis.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49&products_id=60

It says 28mm, but I don't know how closely this company sticks to that scale (it may be a bit small for HS). Cool looking sculpt though; it would make for a great HS custom.

[theats]

sweetness. I think i just wet myself...:oops:

that looks like one of the LOTR basses from Games Workshop.

[insomnimaniac]

Getting excited about the movie.. I hope I'm not too excited that I have raise my hopes too much.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

There are 2 edits, but otherwise it's a near continous fight scene.
The splattering blood looks kinda lame, but the camera work is awesome - the person behind the camera is as much part of the choreography as the actors.
Really cool. Thanks for providing that tidbit.

[player_of_volleyball]

im gonna go see this saturday wit a bunch of friends. it gonna be sweet.

[Venom]

There are 2 edits, but otherwise it's a near continous fight scene.
The splattering blood looks kinda lame, but the camera work is awesome - the person behind the camera is as much part of the choreography as the actors.
Really cool. Thanks for providing that tidbit.

i got to admit that the way some of those body parts get cut off looks amazing

[theats]

There are 2 edits, but otherwise it's a near continous fight scene.
The splattering blood looks kinda lame, but the camera work is awesome - the person behind the camera is as much part of the choreography as the actors.
Really cool. Thanks for providing that tidbit.

i got to admit that the way some of those body parts get cut off looks amazing


TODAYS THE DAY!!!!!!!

NO SPOILERS UNTIL WE ALL SEE IT!!!

THE ONLY STUFF YOU CAN SAY IS IT WAS SP AWSOME, AND OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT.

don't be like, "Remember the part when........."

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

Now that the movie is out people can post anything they want about the movie. If you don't want to read any spoilers don't come to this thread untill after you've seen 300.

Read at your own risk.

Scapers!
Enjoy your breakfast,
For tonight
We dine
In Hell!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[netherspirit]

Now that the movie is out people can post anything they want about the movie. If you don't want to read any spoilers don't come to this thread untill after you've seen 300.

Read at your own risk.

Exactly!

I'm not going to see it until Sunday afternoon, so I will be staying away from this thread after this post until I see it.

Read at your own risk, indeed.

[dra(gon)]

over 300 is nothing to say. everyone know how it ends, nd the ones who saw it know that the movie could be longer(extendend version please :!: ).

[insomnimaniac]

Excellent Movie. It was filmed extremely well and loved the story. The graphics on the rhino looked odd to me, but I've never seen a Rhino charging towards me from below.

It was a small crowd of about 20 people at the 12:35 showing. I too hope for an extended version on DVD. If they did like Sin City, I'm sure we'll get an edition with extras and so on.

What I liked the most is the courage that was portrayed by the Spartans through out.

Loved it, recommend it and I'm not going to spoil it for you.

[Hahma]

Just got back from seeing the movie. A group of us were going to see the 7:50 show but it was sold out when we got there a half-hour early, so we bought tickets for the 9:20 show and when to BWW for a beer in the meantime.

WOW!

I'm going to have to start drafting the Sacred Band and quoting The 300 while playing the game.

The Queen was awesome.

Great courage displayed.

I have to start hitting the Boflex and eliptical more often after watching that, good thing the wife has no interest in seeing the movie with it's gratuitous beefcake strutting around.

I'll have to get the DVD when it comes out.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Choices were simple tonight: See 300 on opening night or play Heroscape.



Of course, I chose 'Scape.
Got in three games. Kaemon rules.
8)


I'll see 300 next weekend.
The local paper gave it :star: :star: and dinged it for gratuitous violence and gore. Not that I give a darn what the paper says...

[Hahma]

Choices were simple tonight: See 300 on opening night or play Heroscape.



Of course, I chose 'Scape.
Got in three games. Kaemon rules.
8)


I'll see 300 next weekend.
The local paper gave it :star: :star: and dinged it for gratuitous violence and gore. Not that I give a darn what the paper says...

I'm sure people can find faults with the movie. I'm not generally a big fan of gratuitous violence, but I enjoyed it in this movie. It was entertaining but I'm not going to say it's the LOTR good. Heck Kill Bill was quite violent to but seemed to get a lot of good pub.

One thing that disturbed me at the show lastnight was that there were people there, at the 9:20pm show mind you, with children that looked to be from 7-10 years old. Besides the time thing, how could a parent bring their kids to a movie that is so freakin' violent? Did they not even research the movie enough to find out that it isn't for kids that age?

[insomnimaniac]

I loved the violence. Doesn't seem like they held back from the storyline of Frank Miller's graphic novel.

The sound track gets you pumped for the next fight coming up. Excellent work.

[Hahma]

I loved the violence. Doesn't seem like they held back from the storyline of Frank Miller's graphic novel.

The sound track gets you pumped for the next fight coming up. Excellent work.

In this movie, I liked the violence and felt it fit well with the story. It helped show how incredible the Spartan warriors were in battle. Not to mention the fact that battles fought with swords, spears and bows tend to be violent and bloody.

It's funny you mention the sound, I mentioned to my brother in-law on the way out of the theater that I really liked the music/sound.

[insomnimaniac]

I loved the violence. Doesn't seem like they held back from the storyline of Frank Miller's graphic novel.

The sound track gets you pumped for the next fight coming up. Excellent work.

In this movie, I liked the violence and felt it fit well with the story. It helped show how incredible the Spartan warriors were in battle. Not to mention the fact that battles fought with swords, spears and bows tend to be violent and bloody.

It's funny you mention the sound, I mentioned to my brother in-law on the way out of the theater that I really liked the music/sound.

Although I make music, I don't pay much attention to it in movies or shows, however, this movie had me listening to the music, Dialogue and background chaos.. I will place this movie in my top 10.

[chezious]

This movie was totally amazing. Very artistic violence, the speeches were inspiring, the music matched the intensity of the movie.(I want the soundtrack) The acting was well done as well, for the most part. The slow-motion battles were just crazy.

Didn't you just feel like picking up a weapon and fighting your nearest Persian? Haha

All in all. A great movie. One of the best movies I have ever seen in its genre.

Go SEE IT!

[Hahma]

This movie was totally amazing. Very artistic violence, the speeches were inspiring, the music matched the intensity of the movie.(I want the soundtrack) The acting was well done as well, for the most part. The slow-motion battles were just crazy.

Didn't you just feel like picking up a weapon and fighting your nearest Persian? Haha

All in all. A great movie. One of the best movies I have ever seen in its genre.

Go SEE IT!

You can get a replica Spartan sword and shield here, that way you can have them when you watch the movie on DVD. :D

http://www.wbshop.com/cat/300/Collectibles/

[Drumline3469]

I was looking at that earlier. They're sold out though. And they are A LOT of money for something that isn't heroscape...

[Hahma]

I was looking at that earlier. They're sold out though. And they are A LOT of money for something that isn't heroscape...

Yeah, but how cool would it be to have one of those shields and swords hanging on the wall.

My wife's uncle designs exhibits at the Field Museum in Chicago. When we were visiting around Christmas time, I enjoyed his collection of stuff (leftover from exhibits) displayed throughout the house. He's got a pair of bastard swords and a cool african spear hanging on the walls.

[Drumline3469]

That would be really cool to like cross two of those swords crossed under the shield or even on top of it if you could...

[Havokscry]

Holy hell!! Loved the movie!

Friday's estimates are in and are rather staggering. $27.8M for Friday alone. $80M for a March opening weekend is going to be insane!! With the box office success of Ghost Rider and now 300, let's hope that more comic book movies are heading our way!

[Joah]

Holy hell!! Loved the movie!

With the box office success of Ghost Rider and now 300, let's hope that more comic book movies are heading are way!

As long as they are made as well as 300 & Spider-Man.
I saw 300 this afternoon. I loved it.

[Havokscry]

Holy hell!! Loved the movie!

With the box office success of Ghost Rider and now 300, let's hope that more comic book movies are heading are way!

As long as they are made as well as 300 & Spider-Man.
I saw 300 this afternoon. I loved it.

Oh you know you loved Catwoman and Barb Wire. :lol:

[Hahnarama]

DEFINITELY worth the wait.

I'm glad I bought my tickets online last night. All the showings on both screens at my local multi plex were sold out for today.

[Uprising]

Just got back from the movie. I wanna go punch a spear through someone's abdomen right now. :up:

[Hahma]

Just got back from the movie. I wanna go punch a spear through someone's abdomen right now. :up:

Make sure that you bash them in the face with your shield first just for kicks :D

[netherspirit]

Even though I am sick, I went and saw it last night. It was great.

There are so many great lines...great special effects, the music was awesome, along with awesome story telling...

What are everyone's thoughts on the rumors going around about a sequel?

[netherspirit]

What do you all think? As it is right now I am not taking him, he will have to just see it on DVD after i see it. But if it is not that bad then I will take him.

Having now seen it, I wouldn't let my 10 year old brother watch it.

[Havokscry]

What are everyone's thoughts on the rumors going around about a sequel?

I can't picture it happening. Sin City 2 is pretty much a go and there's talks of Frank Miller's Ronin being developed into a movie. I know 300 is a big box office hit, but I'm not sure if Frank Miller has the time to write and pencil new material.

[Grungebob]

What are everyone's thoughts on the rumors going around about a sequel?

I can't picture it happening. Sin City 2 is pretty much a go and there's talks of Frank Miller's Ronin being developed into a movie. I know 300 is a big box office hit, but I'm not sure if Frank Miller has the time to write and pencil new material.RONIN!!! I'm there!!

[insomnimaniac]

I'd love to see a sequel for 300. I know that Sin City 2 and 3 have been announced. Ronin huh? Haven't heard that rumor.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

What are everyone's thoughts on the rumors going around about a sequel?

I can't picture it happening. Sin City 2 is pretty much a go and there's talks of Frank Miller's Ronin being developed into a movie. I know 300 is a big box office hit, but I'm not sure if Frank Miller has the time to write and pencil new material.RONIN!!! I'm there!!

Yep. I'm all aboard for Ronin.

[Uprising]

Ronin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronin_%28comic_book_series%29)

[Havokscry]

Here's a link...

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/02/12/frank-millers-ronin-finds-a-new-master/

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.

It's not one of Miller's biggest milestones, but it's close to my heart. I was in awe of Ronin.
Here's hoping Ronin gets done right and before Hard Boiled. :wink:

[Grungebob]

If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.

It's not one of Miller's biggest milestones, but it's close to my heart. I was in awe of Ronin.
Here's hoping Ronin gets done right and before Hard Boiled. :wink:They never set out to do a movie "adaptation" of Frank Miller's work as you put it. They literally attempt to bring his art to motion.

I saw 300 today at the Imax theater where every inch of my vision was filled with it's splendor!! I was even more impressed than I expected. A true master piece that had my wife crying at the end. She loved it and that was cool as well! This is a must see movie for any of you that love this sort of thing!! It was way better than gladiator. I will be seeing it again and again!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.

It's not one of Miller's biggest milestones, but it's close to my heart. I was in awe of Ronin.
Here's hoping Ronin gets done right and before Hard Boiled. :wink:They never set out to do a movie "adaptation" of Frank Miller's work as you put it. They literally attempt to bring his art to motion.

:?
Coulda sworn they were adapting it for the motion picture medium...Huh.

Anyway, If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.

[Grungebob]

If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.

It's not one of Miller's biggest milestones, but it's close to my heart. I was in awe of Ronin.
Here's hoping Ronin gets done right and before Hard Boiled. :wink:They never set out to do a movie "adaptation" of Frank Miller's work as you put it. They literally attempt to bring his art to motion.

:?
Coulda sworn they were adapting it for the motion picture medium...Huh.

Anyway, If Ronin sees the light of day as a motion picture...woah.
I hope they don't blow it in adaptation.I'm just repeating what has been said about Sin City and 300. They are not your typical adaptations. It is like the actual panels from the graphic novel were used as the story boards for the film.

[Annerios]

I got to see it today and its plays like an "enhanced" version of the graphic novel. They paid great attention to the details of Miller's work down to the shape of the arrowheads used by the Persians!

Queen Gorgo is given some screen time she was not given in the comic, which some people may find distracting, but it actually gives the audience some rest from the relentless battle scenes.

The battles are relegated to a few great panels in the comic,but here they are brought to life in greater detail. There is a lot of use of slo-mo, but there are also some battle sequences that are not slowed down. You will get to see some of the Spartan phalanx style of combat, along with some individual combat when they break formation.

There are some omitted scenes from the comic, but not many, and those will probably turn up on the DVD.

Was it just me or were they using some force perspective photography to make Xerxes look like a giant? He looked like he was 9 feet tall of something! :D

For those that were concerned about all the yelling in the trailers and what looked like monsters (other than Ephialtes), there is not much to be concerned about. Leonidas does some yelling, but he has his soft spoken, pensive moments like in the comic. The huge troll looking thing with blades for arms is not some lame video game style monster "bossman" they inserted in the movie. I'll leave you to see what he is. :)

This one is a must buy on DVD, especially if they offer an unrated director's cut.

[dra(gon)]

an other things what some german press say about the movie. was queen gorgo.
she and her husband speak over freedom, glory and humanity. but they throw their mischarped babys from a cliff.

sapartans look perfeckt und most of the persion(immortal are deformed)

btw here a 300 trailer in 300 stye.
the shorter is better than the long version.

here some short versions
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Em9kdI1ZHw **

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hOFwmVM8g8E *** 8)

a long version
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0ndCPELJQU

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

The huge troll looking thing with blades for arms is not some lame video game style monster "bossman" they inserted in the movie. I'll leave you to see what he is. :)

I am soooo curious as to who that guy is supposed to be. He's nowhere in the Graphic novel that I can tell. Same with the berserker type character chained up with the Immortals in the 300 Seconds trailer.

:?: :? :?:

[netherspirit]

The huge troll looking thing with blades for arms is not some lame video game style monster "bossman" they inserted in the movie. I'll leave you to see what he is. :)

I am soooo curious as to who that guy is supposed to be. He's nowhere in the Graphic novel that I can tell. Same with the berserker type character chained up with the Immortals in the 300 Seconds trailer.

:?: :? :?:

You haven't seen it yet!?!?! Get out there already!!!! :P

[Annerios]

an other things what some german press say about the movie. was queen gorgo.
she and her husband speak over freedom, glory and humanity. but they throw their mischarped babys from a cliff.

Yeah, it's great to hear about freedom from people that kept slaves! :lol:

I don't get why they went with the whole field of grain type of scenes with the Queen except to somehow remind people of Gladiator. I thought that was a bit silly; it kind of takes you out of the movie.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I don't get why they went with the whole field of grain type of scenes with the Queen except to somehow remind people of Gladiator.
Yeah! I've only seen the trailers, but the wheat scene is total harkening to Gladiator for some reason.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

The huge troll looking thing with blades for arms is not some lame video game style monster "bossman" they inserted in the movie. I'll leave you to see what he is. :)

I am soooo curious as to who that guy is supposed to be. He's nowhere in the Graphic novel that I can tell. Same with the berserker type character chained up with the Immortals in the 300 Seconds trailer.

:?: :? :?:

You haven't seen it yet!?!?! Get out there already!!!! :P

It was an option Friday night. But the other choice was 'Scaping. What can I say? I'm a fiend (also I hate crowds! :x ) . We'll get to it next week.

[Annerios]

I am soooo curious as to who that guy is supposed to be. He's nowhere in the Graphic novel that I can tell. Same with the berserker type character chained up with the Immortals in the 300 Seconds trailer.

:?: :? :?:

Well, you saw "most" of what happens with the Immortal "berserker" in the trailer. I won't spoil the rest, but it is pretty cool.

He has this weird bone portrusion in his chest that looks like he survived a chestburster! :P That guy was one mean s.o.b. . . .

[Annerios]

[It was an option Friday night. But the other choice was 'Scaping. What can I say? I'm a fiend (also I hate crowds! :x ) . We'll get to it next week.

I hate crowds too, but for some reason the 4:50pm show I went to was barely attended. I got to sit near the front with hardly anyone close by.
The sound system was quite good, so I did not have to listen to any idiots.
Sheer cinematic bliss.

[dra(gon)]

i must say i was disapointed from troy, 300 hays all that what i miss in troy(the fantasy element) k 300 has no gods or so but they want not be 10% correctness.
troy was a downfall to make epic saga to a ww2 story. i got an an audio troy version near the orginal all twist , drama, 10 year war, and man gods.
and im a hugh fan of Odysseus(the 2002 movie was awsome and bloody als hell at the end)

and the ppl have interesst in fantasy greek stuff , god of war, or halo( :wink: ), lotr they aczept all this god stuff.

[Uprising]

[It was an option Friday night. But the other choice was 'Scaping. What can I say? I'm a fiend (also I hate crowds! :x ) . We'll get to it next week.

I hate crowds too, but for some reason the 4:50pm show I went to was barely attended. I got to sit near the front with hardly anyone close by.
The sound system was quite good, so I did not have to listen to any idiots.
Sheer cinematic bliss.The show I saw was probably only about 70% full. There were a lot of teenagers, but they were all very quiet once the movie started.

[allskulls]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

[Annerios]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

[Drumline3469]

The only way to express the greatness of this movie is to say that it was so amazing that it almost sent me into child labor and I was not pregnant going into the theatre, nor am I a female... The cinematography reminded me of the wachowski brothers meet the wild west. My favorite part was when the messenger got his hand cut off. I am going to see it again in an hour or two...

[Kepler]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

I think that Leonidus and the Spartans would have been a better choice than Parmenio and the SB to represent Greece in HS.

[johnny139]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

I think that Leonidus and the Spartans would have been a better choice than Parmenio and the SB to represent Greece in HS.

But Leonidus isn't meterosexual!

[Havokscry]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

The scary thing is that certain members of this community would buy 50 six figure expansion packs to get their 300 Spartans.

[Grungebob]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

I think that Leonidus and the Spartans would have been a better choice than Parmenio and the SB to represent Greece in HS.

But Leonidus isn't meterosexual!That makes no sense.

[Annerios]

The scary thing is that certain members of this community would buy 50 six figure expansion packs to get their 300 Spartans.

:rofl:

[Avenger]

dude, i loved this movie. It's now my favorite movie, and my friends and I are going to go see it for the second time.

[allskulls]

The scary thing is that certain members of this community would buy 50 six figure expansion packs to get their 300 Spartans.
Hmmm...100 3 figure squads @ 200pts = 20,000pts

300 Spartans vs 2000 Orcs :twisted:

[Drumline3469]

Only 2,000 orcs? Come on that's nothing.

[dra(gon)]

btw does anyone know about that cd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne%27s_Musical_Version_of_Spartacus

about Spartacus, i got this album and can not understand why this album is so sale poor, rated bad. ok any thing lose again war of the worlds.

[johnny139]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

I think that Leonidus and the Spartans would have been a better choice than Parmenio and the SB to represent Greece in HS.

But Leonidus isn't meterosexual!That makes no sense.

Am I really the only one that sees Parmenio as overwhelmingly feminine? I dunno, I could just see him doing an anime-style hair swish.

[Grungebob]

Saw it Saturday night. I am still racking my brain for any movie that was better! The Spartans would be the first 200pt common squad :D

Considering the fact that the development of this movie has been known about for so long and the trailer has been around since last Summer you would think Hasbro could have fast-tracked some Spartans for us with Wave 7! :P

This movie makes you want to play Heroscape. Where are my Einar war elephants to knock off cliffs!?!

I think that Leonidus and the Spartans would have been a better choice than Parmenio and the SB to represent Greece in HS.

But Leonidus isn't meterosexual!That makes no sense.

Am I really the only one that sees Parmenio as overwhelmingly feminine? I dunno, I could just see him doing an anime-style hair swish.Historically the sacred band were made entirely of homosexuals. A "metrosexual" is a metropolitan heterosexual male. Notable difference.

[Jandars_Hope]

Wow - so many people really love this film. I've only recently seen the trailer for it over here in the UK (not sure if it's out yet or not) and it's only just clicked what this thread was about.
I wasn't sure if i'd go see this but seeing as many of you give it such high praise i think i will go to see it with my dad, who i know will love it!

[Chimpy]

On the other hand, the Iranians hate it.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1598886,00.html

[django]

Edited, sorry guys you can't post links to pirated movies here... especially since kids visit the site and the movie is rated R. Trying to make this place as kiddie friendly as I can.

[Cavalier]

On the other hand, the Iranians hate it.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1598886,00.html
When I read that this morning, I just laughed and laughed.

[Drumline3469]

On the other hand, the Iranians hate it.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1598886,00.html
When I read that this morning, I just laughed and laughed.

Oh no!! Frank Miller has been foiled!! I'm sure next they're going to claim that they're still only using uranium for power. PFT! Some people are just to stubborn to accept reality, and that reality is that 300 rocks their faces off so much that they can't see it so they are jealous and must bash it.

[Carnival Man]

btw does anyone know about that cd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne%27s_Musical_Version_of_Spartacus

about Spartacus, i got this album and can not understand why this album is so sale poor, rated bad. ok any thing lose again war of the worlds.

Overall Spartacus was a good album & little known of outside the Prog-Rock community because of Fish's part in the album...

BTW: I saw 300 on Monday...I give it two severed thumbs up! :wink:

[Grungebob]

2 thumbs up!! 4 for gore!!!

[Chimpy]

On the other hand, the Iranians hate it.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1598886,00.html
When I read that this morning, I just laughed and laughed.

Do you know what the funny thing is about that? Nobody in America even knows there is a connection between Persia and Iran. We are truly dumb in matters of history; there is no way we could be trying to convince Americans of Iran's evils based on this film.

[django]

did anyone click on my last post? :shock:

[Jandars_Hope]

did anyone click on my last post? :shock:

I did but nothing came up for me...sorry.

[Venom]

did anyone click on my last post? :shock:

yes, thanks!

[django]

did anyone click on my last post? :shock:

yes, thanks!
your welcome.

[Drumline3469]

Frack yes Django! You RULE!!!!!

[Erasmas]

Well... what gets me about it is that none of them have even seen the movie. People seem to be forgetting two points about this film:

One- It is based solely on a comic book that has been around for some time now. No one seemed to have a problem with the "message" it was trying to send then.

Two- It is a movie... plain and simple. It wasn't directed by Michael Moore, it wasn't funded by the US government, it's a freaking piece of art. It seems like a lot of people (both here and abroad) need to be reminded that a movie doesn't have to "say anything" or "spread a message" at all. It could just be... are you ready?... something to watch for fun!

*Shock and dismay*

I read a review on TIME's website where this guy tore this movie apart. "There was no plot", "it was homoerotic", "dialogue was stilted", etc., etc. It was an action film, nothing more, nothing less. It needs to go right onto the shelf next to Rambo, The Terminator, The Predator, and others (typically starring either Stallone or Swartza-governor). Sometimes, you just wanna watch a flick where you can set your brain on the coffee table for a couple of hours and watch them blow sh!t up and/or sever limbs from people. It doesn't really matter who is killing who, or who the heroes are... just so long as it's pretty to look at.

That's all there is to it as far as I see it.

[Uprising]

I can't wait to see it again this weekend.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/flood31.jpg

[Ted_Danson]

Wow, I am pretty sure that I am the only nerd in america who thought that 300 just wasn't that good. I love the fights, love how they emulate Frank Miller's work on the big screen, but I hated the acting in it, and though the whole "senate" story was useless.

In the future, I'll just watch an edited cut of all fighting, because that was awesome, BUT, it doesn't make the movie good. Sorry all.

It would be like justifying the Matrix sequels on SE alone, or even the Star Wars prequels.

[netherspirit]

I can't wait to see it again this weekend.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/flood31.jpg

Thats hilarious! :rofl:

[Venom]

oh man that was hilarious! :rofl:

[ProSpecT]

I'm going to see this movie for my second time today and I'm as excited as I was the first time. This time though about 12 or so of my friends are going in a big group. I called everyone I know pretty much and told them they have to go see this movie, only 12 people are going though.

Still gonna be a party! 8)

[Erasmas]

ROFLMAO

That picture is fantastic! I'll have to show that to my gaming buds, they'll love it.

And I would have to agree, this movie is just not right for Ted Danson...
Hehehehe

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I can't wait to see it again this weekend.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/flood31.jpg

:rofl:
Uprising, that is hella funny!

Though I'm not too sure about the below image! :shock:
Is that Borat?
http://card.mygamercard.net/jackburke05.png





Anyway, I'm off to see 300 tonight. Guerillinator and a couple of other casual 'Scapers are with me! Whoot.

We might even get in a game or two after the show!!!
:pray:

[Uprising]

You're gonna love it HEH.

[RichardD]

Silliest comment I heard in the media about 300 was that it represented an attack on Islam. What? Which historical fact should I ignore, the one that says Thermopylae was almost 1,000 years before Mohammed, or the one that reminds me that Islam hates Zoastrians (the religion of the Thermopylae-era Persian Empire) more than it hates Jews or Christians?

Not seen 300 yet; not read the book, either (though I love "Dark Knight Returns", I find a lot of Miller's work to be so-so). But it will have to be amazing to better Steven Pressfield's "Gates of Fire", a novelisation of Thermopylae (which oddly enough Iran failed to notice, let alone demonstrate against). But then they also didn't bother demonstrating against the film Alexander, despite his kicking Persian butt (presumably because the film was rubbish anyway).

Oh, hang on - do you think that Iran might be quite keen to create a new media story to distract everyone from their efforts to cook up some Plutonium? Or to distract their own populace from the very real threat of economic sanctions because their leadership is being pig-headed over that nuclear programme? Ah, all becomes a little clearer now ....

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

You're gonna love it HEH.
Going in about an hour. Can't wait.
And we ARE doing 'Scape afterwards!

WHOOHOO!

Weekend, here I frickin' come!!!
:excited:

[Chimpy]

Oh, hang on - do you think that Iran might be quite keen to create a new media story to distract everyone from their efforts to cook up some Plutonium? Or to distract their own populace from the very real threat of economic sanctions because their leadership is being pig-headed over that nuclear programme? Ah, all becomes a little clearer now ....


The problem is, it did not start with the goverment. It started with the bloggers and talk show hosts and others of that sort.

The goverment was happy to push it along though.

P.S. Most Iranians consider it an attack on THEM (as Persians) not on Islam.

[dragonfire]

This might have been asked but did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? It seems like they were added in to attract more people.


These two old people behind me were so overtheatricle. When someone died the were making sound affects, they laughed at a fandango comercial(those comercials suck!) and they clapped at the end. Who clapps at movies? The actors don't here it.

[Grungebob]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

[Uprising]

This might have been asked but did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? It seems like they were added in to attract more people.


These two old people behind me were so overtheatricle. When someone died the were making sound affects, they laughed at a fandango comercial(those comercials suck!) and they clapped at the end. Who clapps at movies? The actors don't here it. :lol: I don't get the clapping thing either man.

[dragonfire]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

It isnt that i didn't like it. Its that my dad was with me.

[Grungebob]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

It isnt that i didn't like it. Its that my dad was with me.So.... What id HE not like it? I don't get it. The only thing this movie lacked was more cowbell!!

[Havokscry]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

It isnt that i didn't like it. Its that my dad was with me.So.... What id HE not like it? I don't get it. The only thing this movie lacked was more cowbell!!

We need more oracles!! :D

[InfinityMax]

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague since the movie came out, but just went and saw it yesterday afternoon. I add my voice to the clamoring masses yelling, 'Oh, Hell Yeah!!!' What a great movie!

BC, there is no way you should take your son to this movie. It was good, but for crying out loud, it's Frank Miller. If you're not sure what I mean, read some Frank Miller.

As for historical accuracy - I would rather see this. The axe-arm executioner, the malformed goat herder, the giants and rhinos, and elephants and everything else - it was great. It was not supposed to be true to history, and if, after you saw the Immortals in their rather silly comic-book costumes, you still thought, 'they didn't look like that', then you should be flogged for stating the obvious.

And the Iranians can bite me. So they're offended because their great-great-ancestors got depicted as comic book villains. I'm offended because they're enriching uranium and training terrorists and leading through tyranny.

[Grungebob]

Not to mention they are adding tons of free publicity to this movie!! What a bunch of ding dongs those Iranians!!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I saw it on Friday night with three other buddies...and Jim Beam.
What a wild ride! I wished I hadn't seen any of the trailers and sneak peeks and been totally surprised, but no biggie.

I found it exciting as heck when the first rush of the Hot Gates occurred. The camera POV was down in there with all the pushing and shoving. Gawd that was exciting!


And there's something cool about that domed phalanx at the end.
I remember thinking it was awesome in the graphic novel, but seeing it on the big screen? Even better.
http://cggazette.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/2790-300.jpg
A fun movie!


Afterwards, all of us headed to my house and got in two games of 'Scape.

Everyone of us thought it was a great way to end the week and start the weekend.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I saw it on Friday night with three other buddies...and Jim Beam.
What a wild ride! I wished I hadn't seen any of the trailers and sneak peeks and been totally surprised, but no biggie.

I found it exciting as heck when the first rush of the Hot Gates occurred. The camera POV was down in there with all the pushing and shoving. Gawd that was exciting!


And there's something cool about that domed phalanx at the end.
I remember thinking it was awesome in the graphic novel, but seeing it on the big screen? Even better.
http://cggazette.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/2790-300.jpg
A fun movie!


Afterwards, all of us headed to my house and got in two games of 'Scape.

Everyone of us thought it was a great way to end the week and start the weekend.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I saw it on Friday night with three other buddies...and Jim Beam.
What a wild ride! I wished I hadn't seen any of the trailers and sneak peeks and been totally surprised, but no biggie.

I found it exciting as heck when the first rush of the Hot Gates occurred. The camera POV was down in there with all the pushing and shoving. Gawd that was exciting!


And there's something cool about that domed phalanx at the end.
I remember thinking it was awesome in the graphic novel, but seeing it on the big screen? Even better.
http://cggazette.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/2790-300.jpg
A fun movie!


Afterwards, all of us headed to my house and got in two games of 'Scape.

Everyone of us thought it was a great way to end the week and start the weekend.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I saw it on Friday night with three other buddies...and Jim Beam.
What a wild ride! I wished I hadn't seen any of the trailers and sneak peeks and been totally surprised, but no biggie.

I found it exciting as heck when the first rush of the Hot Gates occurred. The camera POV was down in there with all the pushing and shoving. Gawd that was exciting!


And there's something cool about that domed phalanx at the end.
I remember thinking it was awesome in the graphic novel, but seeing it on the big screen? Even better.
http://cggazette.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/2790-300.jpg
A fun movie!


Afterwards, all of us headed to my house and got in two games of 'Scape.

Everyone of us thought it was a great way to end the week and start the weekend.

[Grungebob]

You made your point
You made your point
You made your point
You made your point :wink:

[dragonfire]

Quad post. Id expect better from someone like you.

[Joah]

You made your point
You made your point
You made your point
You made your point :wink:
:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

[dragonfire]

Is that how he got his post count is so high?

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Is that how he got his post count is so high?
Frick!

[Reign]

Great movie! My wife and I went and saw it and she loved it. I'm tired of hearing about the politically incorrect BS though.

[Grungebob]

This is getting strange

[dragonfire]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

It isnt that i didn't like it. Its that my dad was with me.So.... What id HE not like it? I don't get it. The only thing this movie lacked was more cowbell!!

We need more oracles!! :D

I liked those parts. He liked those parts. Its just akward watching soft core porn moments together.

[dragonfire]

Is that how he got his post count is so high?
Frick!


Sorry to offend

[Grungebob]

did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless? Never!

It isnt that i didn't like it. Its that my dad was with me.So.... What id HE not like it? I don't get it. The only thing this movie lacked was more cowbell!!

We need more oracles!! :D

I liked those parts. He liked those parts. Its just akward watching soft core porn moments together.Dude... That was not even close to soft core. You guys should have been high fiving and yelling "Hell Ya! Get some!!".

[Havokscry]

You made your point
You made your point
You made your point
You made your point :wink:

It's the Jim Beam talking. Mr. Beam can be very persuasive.

[Homba]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/18/boxoffice.ap/index.html

300 just passed the $127M mark after just 10 days in theaters. Made for what? $60M? I think this might mean... we might get another movie of this type.

So what ancient battle would make a good sequel to Thermopylae? Hard to match that. I wonder what could be done with an epic of the Second Punic War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War) ... might be good... Hannibal crosses the Alps, Cannae, 15 year inconclusive campaign in Italy, finally defeat at Zama.

I finally saw 300 today. Liked it a lot. Only a couple of minor complaints... after a whole scene devoted to emphasizing the phalanx formation (Leonidas' speech to the hunchback), and a whole scene at least devoted to the defensive virtue of the narrow pass, the Spartans spend most of their time fighting in ones and twos in a lose formation out in the open *in front of* the pass. Better movie scenes, but I think the only way they held out historically was to actually be in narrow pass itself in a phalanx. This would not have made nearly as good scenes though... would've been the first scene over and over again (the pushing of the two lines). So in the end, I was fine with it.

The final scene, I was waiting for Leonidas to throw his spear at Xerxes, probably grazing him. Just about what happened, but I didn't like the choice of having Leonidas kneel. There wasn't any advantage to be gained by a ruse at that point, so I thought it was out of character, even though it was a sort of ruse being attempted. I was thinking if the Spartans had one decent archer hidden inside that turtle to peg Xerxes, it would've been great. Too bad they didn't find archery honorable - but then again, this distaste was part of the cultural reason they were such good infantry.

I think I would've had Leonidas leading a wedge of his men trying to hack their way up the stairs of the throne, almost getting there, Xerxes cringing in fear, Leonidas and the last Spartans being overcome just before reaching the throne, and Leonidas making a last weak jab at Xerxes, just grazing him.

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[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

This would not have made nearly as good scenes though... would've been the first scene over and over again (the pushing of the two lines). So in the end, I was fine with it.
Homba, I loved that pushing scene. It was more, I dunno, realistic than stylized fighting a la fast/slow/Matrix style camera work the rest of the movie featured.
I wanted to be down in that formation pushing!!! I just seemed more thrilling and plausible! No showmanship, just teamwork and Kilgore-loads of Morale!


I think I would've had Leonidas leading a wedge of his men trying to hack their way up the stairs of the throne, almost getting there, Xerxes cringing in fear, Leonidas and the last Spartans being overcome just before reaching the throne, and Leonidas making a last weak jab at Xerxes, just grazing him.
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I kept thinking this scene over in my head. Why didn't they go out with more of a fight?!? They're frickin' Spartans!!! The graphic novel is the same. I always found it weird when I'd turn the page and there's Leonidas and the Spartans standing and surrounded.




Is that how he got his post count is so high?
Frick!


Sorry to offend
:lol:

No offense! I went to respond to you, couldn't think of anything funny, and just went with 'Frick' cuz I was frustrated with the site's slowness.
:evil:

No offense at all, DF!

[InfinityMax]

I think I would've had Leonidas leading a wedge of his men trying to hack their way up the stairs of the throne, almost getting there, Xerxes cringing in fear, Leonidas and the last Spartans being overcome just before reaching the throne, and Leonidas making a last weak jab at Xerxes, just grazing him.

Yeah, that would have been a cooler scene. Still cool, but it did seem a little anti-climactic to have them all just die in a bunch like that.

[Homba]

Right, Hex. I liked the first scene a lot too, I didn't mean to dis it. I was only saying would not have been practical to show a slight variation of it over and over (probably what *really* happened in 480 B.C.). For today's "mass consumption" the "ballet of death" out in the open was, I suppose, an easy choice - and apparently justified by the box office receipts. Which means, I hope, we get more!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Right, Hex. I liked the first scene a lot too, I didn't mean to dis it. I was only saying would not have been practical to show a slight variation of it over and over (probably what *really* happened in 480 B.C.). For today's "mass consumption" the "ballet of death" out in the open was, I suppose, an easy choice - and apparently justified by the box office receipts. Which means, I hope, we get more!

Homba, I didn't think you were dissmissing it at all! I was agreeing with you! It was a great scene.

[SilverBlade]

Did anyone find some of the sex parts kinda pointless?

Dragonfire, I'm one of the very few people (particularly amoung men) who find the ubiquitous use of sex for the transparent pretense of selling movie tickets to be very tiresome. I face a similar concern as you in seeing movies with my wife. She is very jealous which makes sex scenes particularly awkward. If it advances the story and can be done tastefully, then I can be tolerant. But usually it's neither necessary nor tasteful. It's just porn. The scenes in 300 were, I suppose, in keeping with the style of the movie. But I would not have missed them had they been edited out.

[Grungebob]

I disagree. The sex scene in this movie supported the plot. It was essential in showing the bond between Leonidas and his woman Gorgo. It was not overly indulgent and was tastefully done.