Space Station Omega--RacNRoll Gaming-Teaser on post #57

[Onacara]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1762&dateline=1262751684



Space Station Omega has always been a mystery and no one is quite sure what its purpose was for. All anyone in the general public knew about the project was that the Space Station was a joint venture between 6 different powerful nations working for a "common good". We had seen enough fighting and the thought of everyone working together was enough to satisfy the curious minds.

On the 21st of July, during a routine communication with Ground Control there was a brief flash of light on the monitor and then nothing. All contact, visual and audio, with the space station was lost.

Recovering the space station was out of the question, but what was on the space station was of vital importance to not only the program itself, but to each of the countries involved as well as every other person on Earth......


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(more info to come...stay tuned)

[Onacara]

August 1st

Six men sit around a table in a dimly lit conference room. Their gruff hard faces look out of place. Each carefully sizing up the other without a word being uttered.

The door opens and in walks General Ratchett.....

"Gentlemen....we have a proposition for you. Now I don't know what you know or don't know about Space Station Omega and quite frankly I don't care. What I do know is that you are the best at what you do. We need you to go to Space Station Omega and bring us back something. The fact of the matter is you may not all make it back...but if you do make it back with what we need you to get then your reward will be 25 million dollars in cash. Who's in?"

Without a question asked they all raised their hands.

"That's what I thought"

He passes a sealed envelope to each of the 6 men.

"This is your mission........ you leave in 1 hour"





(Have I piqued your interest?)

[rym]

Interest piqued.

Big time.

[A_Train]

Long ago. More please.

[nyys]

Tease...

[Onacara]

Tease...

:lol:




Space Station Omega is the first board game from RacNRoll Gaming, a new company formed by myself, nyys and Ollie.

In Space Station Omega you play the role of one of the Mercenaries.

Your objective is to recover the items on Space Station Omega based on the scenario and make it to one of the escape pods. Only one man can claim the bounty...so what will you do to make sure it is you?


More info coming...

[CheddarLimbo]

Sounds like Cutthroat Caverns meets Space Hulk.

Cheddar likey!

[Onacara]

Sounds like Cutthroat Caverns meets Space Hulk.

Cheddar likey!

Add in a bit of Drakon...and :stir:

[SuperflyTNT]

Tease...

:lol:




Space Station Omega is the first board game from RacNRoll Gaming, a new company formed by myself, nyys and Ollie.

In Space Station Omega you play the role of one of the Mercenaries.

Your objective is to recover the items on Space Station Omega based on the scenario and make it to one of the escape pods. Only one man can claim the bounty...so what will you do to make sure it is you?


More info coming...

LOL, I've been benching a game that's a bit similar to what you're saying for about 5 years now! Good luck, Ona!

[Sweetcurse]

Sounds great!

[Onacara]

LOL, I've been benching a game that's a bit similar to what you're saying for about 5 years now! Good luck, Ona!


Hmmm...maybe we should talk. :wink:

Sounds great!

Thanks...we are really excited about it and hopefully our second game will start production soon too.

[dra(gon)]

real sonds great any conections to http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3086/the-omega-virus


the game sounds like space hulk an dungeon quest. if there aere aliens on board und side quest missions.
will the game have a 3d board ?

spape station games are rare this day and if yo said Drakon hat means a random map with rooms. will that game have cards(like itens, events and so) or a action game like heroquest, star quest (space crusade).

btw teaser starts with a pic ;) and not like you advance style the name :D

[Onacara]

real sonds great any conections to http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3086/the-omega-virus

Wow to be completely honest I had never even heard of this game...I chose Space Station Omega because Space Station Alpha sounded too obvious. :lol:

I have to go check that game out now.


the game sounds like space hulk an dungeon quest. if there aere aliens on board und side quest missions.
will the game have a 3d board ?

spape station games are rare this day and if yo said Drakon hat means a random map with rooms. will that game have cards(like itens, events and so) or a action game like heroquest, star quest (space crusade).

btw teaser starts with a pic ;) and not like you advance style the name :D


I wont give away too much (right now) but will say this...unlike Drakon the playing field size/shape is static. However the board/map changes with every game as the players have the control over the spaces and paths. :wink:

[Grungebob]

As intriguing as this game sounds, I have one major reservation: Your lack of follow through on promises you make, leads me to not trust you Onacara. It's commonly known that you do not do what you say you are going to. If I was to order a game from you, what assurance would I have that you would deliver? On the old trust-o-meter you are ranking very low around here. I would like to see that change. I would like you to earn the trust back Onacara.

[Onacara]

As intriguing as this game sounds, I have one major reservation: Your lack of follow through on promises you make, leads me to not trust you Onacara. It's commonly known that you do not do what you say you are going to. If I was to order a game from you, what assurance would I have that you would deliver? On the old trust-o-meter you are ranking very low around here. I would like to see that change. I would like you to earn the trust back Onacara.

Well I wouldn't be the one mailing out the game GB so I couldn't screw that up again.

[Grungebob]

As intriguing as this game sounds, I have one major reservation: Your lack of follow through on promises you make, leads me to not trust you Onacara. It's commonly known that you do not do what you say you are going to. If I was to order a game from you, what assurance would I have that you would deliver? On the old trust-o-meter you are ranking very low around here. I would like to see that change. I would like you to earn the trust back Onacara.

Well I wouldn't be the one mailing out the game GB so I couldn't screw that up again.Well, I certainly wish you luck and will be checking this thread frequently. I love new games, sci-fi, and independently published works.

[Onacara]

As intriguing as this game sounds, I have one major reservation: Your lack of follow through on promises you make, leads me to not trust you Onacara. It's commonly known that you do not do what you say you are going to. If I was to order a game from you, what assurance would I have that you would deliver? On the old trust-o-meter you are ranking very low around here. I would like to see that change. I would like you to earn the trust back Onacara.

Well I wouldn't be the one mailing out the game GB so I couldn't screw that up again.Well, I certainly wish you luck and will be checking this thread frequently. I love new games, sci-fi, and independently published works.

Thanks...we appreciate your support.

[Oliver Upshaw]

Victory Point Games is going to be putting out a space station game in the near future titled Forlorn Hope.

http://victorypointgames.com/details.php?prodId=106

Forlorn Hope is space marines versus aliens. From the description of it it's close to Space Hulk, but no plastic minis. The buzz on Consimworld is that their games are good. I have two of them, Crisis 2020 and Zulus on the Ramparts, and I found them enjoyable. Zulus on the Ramparts is a solitaire game and is very tense.

Perhaps the board from Forlorn Hope could be used by someone who purchases Space Station Omega as well for different options. There was also a game called Sucking Vacuum published by Alien Menace that might be usable for maps. Coolstuff has that one listed as out of stock.

[Onacara]

Victory Point Games is going to be putting out a space station game in the near future titled Forlorn Hope.

http://victorypointgames.com/details.php?prodId=106

Forlorn Hope is space marines versus aliens. From the description of it it's close to Space Hulk, but no plastic minis. The buzz on Consimworld is that their games are good. I have two of them, Crisis 2020 and Zulus on the Ramparts, and I found them enjoyable. Zulus on the Ramparts is a solitaire game and is very tense.

Perhaps the board from Forlorn Hope could be used by someone who purchases Space Station Omega as well for different options. There was also a game called Sucking Vacuum published by Alien Menace that might be usable for maps. Coolstuff has that one listed as out of stock.

Thanks for the info Oliver.....you would not be able to play SSO on that board though...unless you are changing most of the rules. :wink:

BTW Sucking Vacuum is available from Boards&Bits (http://www.boardsandbits.com/product_info.php?products_id=12231&afid=10000) for 12.95

[SuperflyTNT]

I'd really like to hear more on the concept of the game, Tony. When are you going to have a website, or 'somthing' tangible to see? Are you going to do something on The 'Geek or F:aT?

[Onacara]

I'd really like to hear more on the concept of the game, Tony. When are you going to have a website, or 'somthing' tangible to see? Are you going to do something on The 'Geek or F:aT?

Web site is in progress but won be ready for a few more weeks as we are still working out some details on the game while trying to prep fro TotalCon and tend to our regular jobs and lives. We are going to play the game with some people not involved in the project at Total Con in 3 weeks to get a feel for where the game is at as far as playabilty/enjoyment for others and then will me going full speed 150 mph to get info out there.

We will definitely be doing something on The Geek too, but again I see alot of people talking about games they are making on thee that never see the light of day. Once we have a better clear cut view of when this would be released we can start hyping it full tilt.

[Onacara]

(sorry to double post)

On the subject of concept... The game has similar mechanics to Drakon in that the players will be laying the room tiles on the space station grid. However we will be working with hexes instead of squares which leads us to 10s of thousands more combinations. Also we have worked it out so the typical "key/gold" room combination thing associated with Drakon is eliminated. There are also several other game mechanics which bring more strategy into the game as well as a better "screw your neighbor" element than Drakon does.

The other cool thing is we will have at least 3 game play variants with the game and also have enough ideas to put out an expansion set rather quickly if the game takes off.

[Jim]

which leads us to 10s of thousands more combinations.
Got that from Ollie, didn't you... :D

[Onacara]

I have been talking to a friend of mine who is a Sci-Fi writer. He has written several books and is currently writing the scripts for the Farscape comic series and he will most likely be writing the background story for the game. :thumbsup:


The prototype is nearly finished...it doesn't have the flashiest artwork but it serves its purpose and the proxies for the mercs and the aliens are pretty sweet and should help everyone involved with the playtesting get a real feel for the game.

[Onacara]

Working with an artist on the "gameboard" design and I think we are onto something pretty awesome.

Stay tuned for more info.

[SuperflyTNT]

You weenie! I want PICTURES!

:lol: (yeah, me and everyone else)

[DrRansom]

This sounds very cool. Can't wait.

[Onacara]

You weenie! I want PICTURES!

:lol: (yeah, me and everyone else)


We will have some pics posted next week live from TotalCon of folks playing/play-testing the prototype.

[Onacara]

Ok so who wants to see a sneak peek?

Here are some shots of some of the components being used in the prototype/playtest game. )Note they are not completed...the little white circles will have symbols on them indicating "Special Abilities" for each tile. The artwork is basic too for now. I have a couple of graphic designers in mind we would like to possibly work with on the final layout of the components though.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/185.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/187.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/188.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/189.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/190.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/191.jpg


We are using the soldiers from ATTACK and some Feral Worms from Mage Knight to represent the Mercs and Aliens




Oh and this is our company logo..... (special thanks to RaudShieldcrusher)

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/rnr-blk.jpg

[nyys]

Looking good... :thumbsup:

[Onacara]

Looking good... :thumbsup:


Looks better then the blister on my hand from cutting all the pieces out... :lol:

[Armydillo978]

Looking good... :thumbsup:


Looks better then the blister on my hand from cutting all the pieces out... :lol:

That's what minions are for. It worked for Darth Vader at least. :)

[Bengi]

Looking good... :thumbsup:


Looks better then the blister on my hand from cutting all the pieces out... :lol:

Please, no pics of that.

Looking forward to trying this out next weekend!

[SuperflyTNT]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/rnr-blk.jpg

Rotate the die on the left by 90 degrees, so the 4 is facing inward. Then you have 7 and 11 showing!

What's the company logo - a pawn?

[Onacara]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/rnr-blk.jpg

Rotate the die on the left by 90 degrees, so the 4 is facing inward. Then you have 7 and 11 showing!

What's the company logo - a pawn?

It's a pawn, cards and dice....all your standard gaming parts :wink:

[Xn F M]

SSO is looking pretty sweet. (The flat hex grid is giving me flashbacks of playing Ogre in elementary school . . . .)

:up::up:

[skyknight]

looking good Onacara...just one little detail....I would remove the magnet at the top of the R & R. I get what its trying to do but I think the image it makes is a bit more of a distraction than it is worth. I showed my 18 year old boy your logo and his first question was, what's that in the middle there Dad, and began to laugh. That was my first thought as well......

[DrRansom]

Rotate the die on the left by 90 degrees, so the 4 is facing inward. Then you have 7 and 11 showing!

What's the company logo - a pawn?

It's a pawn, cards and dice....all your standard gaming parts :wink:

That's a sweet logo. Itr's got a real classic feel to it.

[Onacara]

looking good Onacara...just one little detail....I would remove the magnet at the top of the R & R. I get what its trying to do but I think the image it makes is a bit more of a distraction than it is worth. I showed my 18 year old boy your logo and his first question was, what's that in the middle there Dad, and began to laugh. That was my first thought as well......

The pawn has been redone a few times and YES I know what you are talking about :quarter:

I was originally thinking of putting a crown/cross top on the pawn but didnt want it to look like we were a company that made Chess boards. Of the "standard" game pawns the one is it modeled after has the nicest look...splitting it up to form the 2 R's though has left that "image".


Not sure we are going to change it..but we might....if not we may become a big hit for female and homosexual gamers. :roll:

[skyknight]

I like the idea of the logo and I think you are on the right track....but I just can't get past that without giggling a bit.

:lol:

[Onacara]

Ok so we got to play test the game a bit with people other than me and my kids. It went very well. The things I thought might be a problem were and I am almost finished with the updates on them which I think will then make it flow better but will add a couple of twists we weren't originally planning on it. The play test also gave us enough ideas for probably 2 expansion sets. :excited:

In the next few weeks we will be reaching out to some of you folks to see if you would be willing to help playtest the game as the more input we get the better the final experience will be for everyone.

Now before anyone sends me a PM asking to be a playtester, we want to first go through the list of people on our list first to see if they are willing to help us out. If we do not get enough of those folks on board we will open it up to everyone interested and then decide who we will be sending copies out to.

Thanks again everyone for all of your support, suggestions and enthusiasm. We really appreciate it and hope you like our game.

[Bengi]

I got to test this out at TotalCon last weekend and I have to say that I was impressed. Definitely need to work out a few details that can cause the game to break (people can get stuck), but I think the idea of adding more doors will help. We were also a bit unclear about the rules for entering/leaving the center room. It may speed up the game a lot too if you consider a move then place rule each turn. Definitely worth testing out, but it may be a drastic change.

[Onacara]

I fixed the door issue Bengi. ...and I think it is even better than we discussed. :whistle:

[rym]

Awesome Onacara. Anything I can do to help, let me know.

[Taeblewalker]

I enjoyed the game tremendously. I am enthusiastic about seeing the things fixed that needed fixing. It really seemed like a fun, fun game.

[LMB]

Not sure we are going to change it..but we might....

If you do my suggestion would be to bring the 2 'R's together to break up the lines with the top of the pawn, and put the 'N' over them. Since this might not be very clear, I created an image that shows what I mean, I hope you don't mind (I wasn't trying to be disrespectful of anyone's work, just trying to be clear with my idea). See end of post for image.

Also, another thought I had was that in some places there is a break between the white lines and in others there is not. I would suggest picking one of these two ways (I'm partial to the black breaks, btw) and being consistent throughout the logo.

Another 'also'... :)
I'm not loving the font used for the 'N' and 'Gaming'. I would go with either a less stylized font (TNR for serif-style, or Verdana for sans) or match the sort of deco look of the 'R's. With apologies to whoever picked the current font, it screams 'Mom & Pop company' to me. Unless that's the image you're trying to project I'd give this some consideration.

A third 'also'... :roll: (does this guy ever shut up?)
The spacing of the dots on the dice isn't consistent (as relative to the edge of the dice), I would fix this. And since the rest of the logo has a sort roundy, organic look you might want to round the corners of the dice a little bit as well.

Fourth also... (apparently not!)
Do you really need the dice and cards and pawn? I've been working on a project for Proctor & Gamble recently (specifically for the Tide brand) and it's sort of opened my eyes to a number of branding issues regarding logo design. Look at some classic logos and perhaps you'll see what I mean. The Tide logo with it's multi-colored concentric circles isn't sitting on top of lineart of a washing machine. Classic logos transcend the trappings of their 'genre'.

And finally a question: What holds the hexes together as the map is assembled? I don't see interlocking edges. Do they just sit next to each other or are they held together somehow?

Lastly, good luck with the project!

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[Onacara]

Not sure we are going to change it..but we might....

If you do my suggestion would be to bring the 2 'R's together to break up the lines with the top of the pawn, and put the 'N' over them. Since this might not be very clear, I created an image that shows what I mean, I hope you don't mind (I wasn't trying to be disrespectful of anyone's work, just trying to be clear with my idea). See end of post for image.

That was the first thing I thought of when the "phallus" occurred. I think removing the top part combined with that will work better.

Also, another thought I had was that in some places there is a break between the white lines and in others there is not. I would suggest picking one of these two ways (I'm partial to the black breaks, btw) and being consistent throughout the logo. I like the breaks too. The reason they are in some places and not others is because they only occur around the R's. But I think if we put the breaks on the other lines too it may add to the look.


Another 'also'... :)
I'm not loving the font used for the 'N' and 'Gaming'. I would go with either a less stylized font (TNR for serif-style, or Verdana for sans) or match the sort of deco look of the 'R's. With apologies to whoever picked the current font, it screams 'Mom & Pop company' to me. Unless that's the image you're trying to project I'd give this some consideration. I actually like the font because the R's themselves are not a font...although I can see your point. We can always play around with other font options



A third 'also'... :roll: (does this guy ever shut up?)
The spacing of the dots on the dice isn't consistent (as relative to the edge of the dice), I would fix this. And since the rest of the logo has a sort roundy, organic look you might want to round the corners of the dice a little bit as well. Never noticed the dot spacing. Also while I understand the rounded corners consistency I am not sure how it would look with the 3D image of the dice since the edge facing the "camera" would then change.



Fourth also... (apparently not!)
Do you really need the dice and cards and pawn? I've been working on a project for Proctor & Gamble recently (specifically for the Tide brand) and it's sort of opened my eyes to a number of branding issues regarding logo design. Look at some classic logos and perhaps you'll see what I mean. The Tide logo with it's multi-colored concentric circles isn't sitting on top of lineart of a washing machine. Classic logos transcend the trappings of their 'genre'. YES! The use of the 3 common game components was part of the logo concept as we plan on making both board and card games.



And finally a question: What holds the hexes together as the map is assembled? I don't see interlocking edges. Do they just sit next to each other or are they held together somehow? It is all going to come down to cost. Getting a first game to sell is difficult enough. Adding a bigger price tag to it to cover production costs is another. We do have a few options that we are exploring.


Lastly, good luck with the project!

THANKS!!!!

[Onacara]

PMs have started to go out to those folks we have identified as the initial playtest group. If you received a PM please respond back either way.

A few more need to go ot and then based on responses we may call for volunteers.

If you were not selected it doesnt mean we dont like you. In fact there are at least 10 people I would like to Playtest that I didnt ask as I know they are busy with other projects and real life stuff.

Thanks again to everyone for your support...we appreciate it.

[Onacara]

WOW!!!!!

The response to the Playtester requests has been outstanding...just waiting on a couple of others to respond.

We are very excited to get this huge ball rolling.

You guys are the best!!!!

[Sport351]

I really should try this when it comes out. (I still need to buy Summoner Wars too:?)

Looks pretty cool!

[Onacara]

I really should try this when it comes out. (I still need to buy Summoner Wars too:?)

Looks pretty cool!

We wont be out for a little while...but I do recommend you buy Summoner Wars...it is a hell of alot of fun.

All 3 of us at RacNRoll are big fans of the game....seriously. I bought the game initially to support Truth and didn't think I would like it only because card games like this were never my cup of tea. Then I realized that they weren't for me because they were not made like Summoner Wars. The only "bad" thing I can say about it as one of the owners of a fledgling game company is.....I wish we had thought of it first.

[mrkurtb]

I'm not trying to be nosy here so feel free to ignore any questions or comments you don't want to address.

If you don't mind talking about it, I'm curious how a fledgling game company gets its games and name out to the masses. It seems like this would be quite challenging, especially when the passion is for the game, as opposed to the business (this very well might not be correct in this case but I know you guys love games). Do you have a good feel for your marketing model? If marketing isn't one of your principals' core competencies, do you have an industry knowledgeable 3rd party who will do that for you? I personally don't know how game distribution works but it seems like there would be plenty of people at conventions, in the industry, and who frequent this site who would be willing to give advice, should you be looking for it.

Glad to hear the playtesting is going well.

Best of luck!

[Onacara]

Well like any fledgling company...you have to pound a lot of pavement...talk to as many people as possible...make as many connections as you can. You have to really believe in what it is you are creating and be passionate about it. You have to think outside the box but also stay within reality. Its a delicate balancing act...especially since we all have real jobs and family responsibilities.

When the game goes into actual production we expect our first printing to be relatively small by boardgame standards...but by getting it into the hands of the people who actually move this industry (boardgame fans) we have no doubt that word of mouth will be our biggest ally.

We are not looking to concur the world or topple Settlers of Catan from the top of the board game food chain...but if we can make ourselves a niche and continue to make quality games that we enjoy playing and are proud of then i think that will be just fine with us.

[mrkurtb]

..but by getting it into the hands of the people who actually move this industry (boardgame fans) we have no doubt that word of mouth will be our biggest ally.


No doubt Boardgamegeek has made such an undertaking much easier. Thanks for your reply.

[Onacara]

Thanks for your reply.

No problem.

Being accessible to your customers also helps. :-)

[Onacara]

OK....for everyone who was invited to playtest I need you to send me an email with your name and mailing address to

racnrollgaming@gmail.com

If you are one of our young playtesters, please include contact info for your parents in the email just so we can clear everything through them.

We will have a Playtesters forum up shortly too where all questions can be asked/answered.


I am working off of a portable device right now so its a pain to PM each of you sorry.


Thanks again guys.

[Onacara]

Ok now that SSO is heading to outside play test...I can get back to working on our next project.



In a dark and smokey back room, somewhere in the City of Westport, a rag tag group of criminals have gathered. Sure they had their rap sheets that made them far removed from choir boys, but none of them would ever be considered “Public Enemy No. 1”. Individually they were no more of a risk to the city than any other two-bit criminal…but together they were downright dangerous. For the next 30 days, Westport would experience their biggest crime spree ever, thanks to the men assembled there in that dimly lit “hole in the wall”. They would pool their talents to take as much as they could from the city, letting nothing get in their way. After that...they would never be heard from again.



What could possibly go wrong?



Unusual Suspects is the next …and first co-operative board game from the folks at RacNRoll Gaming.

http://www.racnrollgaming.com/resources/US.jpg

[SuperflyTNT]

Well like any fledgling company...you have to pound a lot of pavement...talk to as many people as possible...make as many connections as you can. You have to really believe in what it is you are creating and be passionate about it. You have to think outside the box but also stay within reality. Its a delicate balancing act...especially since we all have real jobs and family responsibilities.

When the game goes into actual production we expect our first printing to be relatively small by boardgame standards...but by getting it into the hands of the people who actually move this industry (boardgame fans) we have no doubt that word of mouth will be our biggest ally.

We are not looking to concur {read: conquer} the world or topple Settlers of Catan from the top of the board game food chain...but if we can make ourselves a niche and continue to make quality games that we enjoy playing and are proud of then i {read: I} think that will be just fine with us.

Um, have you gotten an editor for the rulebook yet? :lol:

Your criminal co-op game sounds pretty interesting and something we don't see a lot of.

[Onacara]

Well like any fledgling company...you have to pound a lot of pavement...talk to as many people as possible...make as many connections as you can. You have to really believe in what it is you are creating and be passionate about it. You have to think outside the box but also stay within reality. Its a delicate balancing act...especially since we all have real jobs and family responsibilities.

When the game goes into actual production we expect our first printing to be relatively small by boardgame standards...but by getting it into the hands of the people who actually move this industry (boardgame fans) we have no doubt that word of mouth will be our biggest ally.

We are not looking to concur {read: conquer} the world or topple Settlers of Catan from the top of the board game food chain...but if we can make ourselves a niche and continue to make quality games that we enjoy playing and are proud of then i {read: I} think that will be just fine with us.

Um, have you gotten an editor for the rulebook yet? :lol:

Your criminal co-op game sounds pretty interesting and something we don't see a lot of.

Are you applying for the job?

:oops:

[SuperflyTNT]

Nah, I've got my own fires to put out...
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14648153?source=most_emailed

[Onacara]

Nah, I've got my own fires to put out...
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14648153?source=most_emailed


YIKES!!!!!

[quozl]

Um, have you gotten an editor for the rulebook yet? :lol:

Are you applying for the job?

:oops:

Actually, if you need an editor, I'll volunteer. I have one semi-professional credit: The Vault and Time by Ronin Arts

[Taeblewalker]

Ok now that SSO is heading to outside play test...I can get back to working on our next project.



In a dark and smokey back room, somewhere in the City of Westport, a rag tag group of criminals have gathered. Sure they had their rap sheets that made them far removed from choir boys, but none of them would ever be considered “Public Enemy No. 1”. Individually they were no more of a risk to the city than any other two-bit criminal…but together they were downright dangerous. For the next 30 days, Westport would experience their biggest crime spree ever, thanks to the men assembled there in that dimly lit “hole in the wall”. They would pool their talents to take as much as they could from the city, letting nothing get in their way. After that...they would never be heard from again.



What could possibly go wrong?



Unusual Suspects is the next …and first co-operative board game from the folks at RacNRoll Gaming.


http://www.racnrollgaming.com/resources/US.jpg


:up:

[Bengi]

What a surprise, an Italian guy from NY came up with this concept. I love it!

[Onacara]

What a surprise, an Italian guy from NY came up with this concept. I love it!


There is a sincere lack of games of this genre out there...especially good ones. This game will appeal to both fans of the genre as well as folks who aren't.

[Eirikr]

Ok now that SSO is heading to outside play test...I can get back to working on our next project.



In a dark and smokey back room, somewhere in the City of Westport, a rag tag group of criminals have gathered. Sure they had their rap sheets that made them far removed from choir boys, but none of them would ever be considered “Public Enemy No. 1”. Individually they were no more of a risk to the city than any other two-bit criminal…but together they were downright dangerous. For the next 30 days, Westport would experience their biggest crime spree ever, thanks to the men assembled there in that dimly lit “hole in the wall”. They would pool their talents to take as much as they could from the city, letting nothing get in their way. After that...they would never be heard from again.



What could possibly go wrong?



Unusual Suspects is the next …and first co-operative board game from the folks at RacNRoll Gaming.


http://www.racnrollgaming.com/resources/US.jpg
This sounds awesome! I can't wait to try it out. I guess I'd better work my ass off playtesting, reviewing, and generally pimping SSO so I can get on the playtest group for this one.
I really hope this works out for you guys.

[Onacara]

SSO Update...Play test packages are in the play testers hands.... :excited:

Now I get to work some more on Unusual Suspects and our other projects before we start finalizing the artwork for SSO. :excited:


I'm going to need more coffee.

[Onacara]

Hey guys...I'm not going to be on much the next couple of weeks while I take care of some business for RnR...we have a lot of things in the pipeline. (Now I just need to win the lottery to pay for it all :-) )


For all the play testers...make sure you check in on the play test forum.

Thanks

[Onacara]

Happy to report that Space Station Omega will be making an appearance at Gamer's Reunion next weekend :excited:

Also have a few more projects in the pipeline including a card game that looks like it will see the light of day in the next few months (fingers crossed) as well as a couple of others which are in heavy development.

Its alot of work but hopefully it will be worth it when we get some games ot there that people enjoy playing as much as we do.

[Grungebob]

How about an update ding dong!

[Onacara]

How about an update ding dong!

There ya go...
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/udd.jpg


Ok on a serious note...

Playtesting is progressing and no breaks have been found. We will be contracting with the artists doing the final art next week and should be ready to go out to the printers at sometime in June...which will give us a release date at sometime in October.

I will have a complete prototype with me at GenCon for anyone interested in trying the game out.

We have a total of 8 games in various stages of development at this point and while we are working on all of them we will be focusing more of our attention on 2 in particular (1 designed by me and another designed by nyys).

We have 1 other game that is complete that we will have sample printings of in the next month to 6 weeks. This is a very light, fun, family type card based game. We will be using the sample printings to gage interest in the game before going to mass production.

[Onacara]

More RnR News...

We have another game that is coming together very nicely...nyys came up with the original concept and layout and then I jumped in with a fresh set of eyes and in no time all the pieces are falling into place. I think naming it is the only "issue" we are having with the design. Maybe we need to have a naming contest? :ponder:

I will have to say that this has been a really fun experience. If you have ever wanted to make a board game (even if you never produce it or sell it) you should do it.

We are by no means experts but are very willing to help any closet designers out there with their own game development. Who knows...your game may be so good that we will partner with you to produce it.

(Definitely need to hit the lottery soon)

[kboleen]

I'm interested in this game. I'm currently building a business plan to open my own game shop. I would love to feature small and independently released games.

[Onacara]

I'm interested in this game. I'm currently building a business plan to open my own game shop. I would love to feature small and independently released games.


Well when the game is released we could possibly do an in-store for you ;)

[Onacara]

Update Sadly Ollie has departed the business due to other time obligations. We still love ya Ollie and you will always be a part of RnR in spirit. The door is open if you ever change your mind.

With Ollie's departure, nyys and I have been discussing if we will press on as a duo or bring in a new partner. Three people is nice for when the 2 of us are dedlocked on an idea/decision...not sure what we are going to do but we are leaving our options open.

Playtesting on SSO is going a little slower than hoped...everyone just semed to get hit with the "real life" at some point over the past couple of months.

On a better note though things are pushing forward on our latest game (still except for the name) and we are looking to have a working prototype together in time for OnacaraCon. :praying:

We are looking into having a ProtoSpiel up in this neck of the woods (New York/New England). If you don't know what ProtoSpiel is...it's a convention for game designers, play testers and would be play testers...where everyone gets to display their creations and have controlled playtesting over a weekend. If we get this going I will let you know.



If anyone has psychic abilities and can give me the winning numbers for the next few lottery drawings it would be appreciated.

[Jim]

If anyone has psychic abilities and can give me the winning numbers for the next few lottery drawings it would be appreciated.
4/7/16/25/29/36

Of course, those may not all occur at the same time or even in the same lottery, but they are winning numbers in upcoming lotteries.

[ollie]

Update Sadly Ollie has departed the business due to other time obligations. We still love ya Ollie and you will always be a part of RnR in spirit. The door is open if you ever change your mind.

Thanks for letting me be involved. It was a privilege.

However, in today's spirit of unsporting spoilers, I'm going to spill the beans on a crucial aspect of SSO.

It rocks.


:p

[Onacara]

You work your fingers to the bone day in and day out. At the end of it all you just to try and scrape enough extra cash together to take a well earned vacation. The brochure looked great... you couldn't wait to get on that big beautiful cruise ship so you could relax and be waited on hand and foot. Too bad the ship sank and you are now doing everything you possibly can to live long enough to be rescued in that little lifeboat with the other "lucky" survivors.


This is the game we are currently working on...and it really needs a good title. :wink:

If we get a good suggestion and use it we would give you a copy of the game for the idea. (We have several "working titles" for the game but have not settled on any of them)

(This is a cooperative game where you need to work together with your boat mates to make sure you live long enough for the rescue boat to find you.)

[Killometer]

Hmmm, too bad Lifeboat (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4174/lifeboat) is already taken ;) (that was Mrs. Killometer's first suggestion).

[NecroBlade]

ollie, hope things are going well for you. 'Life' seems to have hit a LOT of 'scapers recently, myself included.

And it's good to see RnR is still doing well and has a lot to work on. Just wish I could get my hands on SSO already (hint hint). Maybe I should apply for ollie's job? :ponder:

For the teased game...Wave Waifs? Nah, probably too obscure/silly.

(Also, thanks for using post # instead of page #, not everyone uses the same settings.)

[Onacara]

And it's good to see RnR is still doing well and has a lot to work on. Just wish I could get my hands on SSO already (hint hint).


Our investor is coming to town next week to go over some stuff with me so hopefully I will have an update soon enough. (The lottery has not worked to my benefit yet)


As for the new game...I like the name "Six Days, Seven Nights" since it relates to a vacation as well as the amount of time until the rescuers arrive.

[Killometer]

As for the new game...I like the name "Six Days, Seven Nights" since it relates to a vacation as well as the amount of time until the rescuers arrive.

Ooh, does that mean I can play Harrison Ford (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120828/) 8), or do I have to be Anne Heche:puke:?

:p

[Bengi]

This is the game we are currently working on...and it really needs a good title. :wink:


Lifeboat Livin'
Liferaft Livin'
Dinghy Disaster

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

zattera di salvataggio

[S1R_ART0R1US]

:thumbsup: to small businesses. I'll be watching your game ideas grow, as they all seem like "lighter" games that I might be able to get my Rummikub, Stratego, Monopoly, etc-loving family to play.

[Land-based AE]

Survival Of the Strategist

It's a lifeboat survival game and people will invariably start calling it SOS.

[ollie]

This is the game we are currently working on...and it really needs a good title. :wink:


Lifeboat Livin'
Liferaft Livin'
Dinghy Disaster

On behalf of Grungebob, I'd like to suggest Dinghy Donghy. ;)

Or...

Adrift,
The Game of Lifeboat,
Drown your Friends!

[mrkurtb]

Alive!...for now
the game of lucky(?) lifeboat survivors

[Onacara]

Well I think we have decided on going with the ....

"6 Days...7 Nights" (This wasn't in the brochure) Title...as we have worked it into the mechanics of the game and I made a really cool logo for it :rofl: (Right nyys?)

[mrkurtb]

Well I think we have decided on going with the ....

"6 Days...7 Nights" (This wasn't in the brochure) Title...as we have worked it into the mechanics of the game and I made a really cool logo for it :rofl: (Right nyys?)


Chances are you'll never have an issue with the trademark, especially if sales are low. At such levels, it's simply not worth the big boys' time. However, it's worth mentioning that there still is risk. One of the worst case scenarios would be that you catch lightning in a bottle and sales take off only to be issued a cease and desist order, effectively cutting the legs out from under the game.

[nyys]

Well I think we have decided on going with the ....

"6 Days...7 Nights" (This wasn't in the brochure) Title...as we have worked it into the mechanics of the game and I made a really cool logo for it :rofl: (Right nyys?)

Yeah, I like the logo a lot.


Chances are you'll never have an issue with the trademark, especially if sales are low. At such levels, it's simply not worth the big boys' time. However, it's worth mentioning that there still is risk. One of the worst case scenarios would be that you catch lightning in a bottle and sales take off only to be issued a cease and desist order, effectively cutting the legs out from under the game.

Hmmm... you mean like a parasite, feed off the host. I like it. 8)

[mrkurtb]

Chances are you'll never have an issue with the trademark, especially if sales are low. At such levels, it's simply not worth the big boys' time. However, it's worth mentioning that there still is risk. One of the worst case scenarios would be that you catch lightning in a bottle and sales take off only to be issued a cease and desist order, effectively cutting the legs out from under the game.

Hmmm... you mean like a parasite, feed off the host. I like it. 8)

Edited. Sometimes it takes me a while to figure stuff out.

[Onacara]

Well I think we have decided on going with the ....

"6 Days...7 Nights" (This wasn't in the brochure) Title...as we have worked it into the mechanics of the game and I made a really cool logo for it :rofl: (Right nyys?)


Chances are you'll never have an issue with the trademark, especially if sales are low. At such levels, it's simply not worth the big boys' time. However, it's worth mentioning that there still is risk. One of the worst case scenarios would be that you catch lightning in a bottle and sales take off only to be issued a cease and desist order, effectively cutting the legs out from under the game.

From who? The people who made that movie do not own the term "6 Days 7 Nights"


PS...nyys...the shark fins for the prototype arrived today :excited:

[mrkurtb]

Well I think we have decided on going with the ....

"6 Days...7 Nights" (This wasn't in the brochure) Title...as we have worked it into the mechanics of the game and I made a really cool logo for it :rofl: (Right nyys?)


Chances are you'll never have an issue with the trademark, especially if sales are low. At such levels, it's simply not worth the big boys' time. However, it's worth mentioning that there still is risk. One of the worst case scenarios would be that you catch lightning in a bottle and sales take off only to be issued a cease and desist order, effectively cutting the legs out from under the game.

From who? The people who made that movie do not own the term "6 Days 7 Nights"


The people who made that movie might not own the term "6 Days 7 Nights" but there is enough gray area that they wouldn't necessarily need to to cause you a lot of legal grief. There is enough gray area that I would suggest at least running it past someone with some legal experience. Some things to consider:
1. This (http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=25&ti=1,25&Search_Arg=six%20days%20seven%20nights&Search_Code=TALL&CNT=25&PID=TvsUVMTipum5VZOBHnJdP0p-iVVTw&SEQ=20100707090912&SID=1) copyright is for the "Six Days, Seven Nights" press kit. It copyrights text. Now in the world of common sense there should be no issue, let's face it we're talking a 2010 small company boardgame versus a 1998 feature film. The thing is we're in the world of lawyer$ and all it takes is a simple cease and desist order from them for you to now have the burden of either ignoring the order or hiring a lawyer of your own. Now lawyer$ are sometimes necessary, but the best strategy with lawyer$ is to avoid having to hire them if possible.
2. This (http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=26&ti=1,26&SEQ=20100707092523&Search_Arg=six%20days%20seven%20nights&Search_Code=TALL&CNT=25&PID=xlpvWiPgrlTxumhvfYFXRJoCEzpi-&SID=1) copyright list visual materials. So you'll want to make sure none of the art is too similar to whatever visual materials is listed. I'm sure that one of the copyrights also lists the script, in which you'd want to be sure none of the events of the game mirror what happens in the movie too closely.
3. "Don't Mess with the Mouse" Disney is famous for going after copyright infringement. Disney also made "Six Days, Seven Nights". This alone may be the strongest case for at least consulting a lawyer.
4. There are 33 copyrights that I could find associated with "Six Days, Seven Nights". I did a brief search and couldn't find any trademarks, but that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any. However, if they went to all the work to secure these, there is definitely risk, albeit very small, involved.

In conclusion, I'm no legal expert by any means, I only mention this because I want you guys to succeed and success for small business sometimes means avoiding unnecessary legal costs. The chances of any legal issues are small but given the fact that Disney is on the other end, it might be worth asking someone in the know now while it's still easy to change things.

[SuperflyTNT]

As for the new game...I like the name "Six Days, Seven Nights" since it relates to a vacation as well as the amount of time until the rescuers arrive.

Names created by the TNT Random Game Name Generator:
Holiday Holocaust
Vacation Victims -or- Victims of Vacation
Sun, Surf, and Survival
Overboard
The Survivors

Hey, before you get balls deep in this new one, how's about some info on SSO, man! I want to see this thing become a game, dude, and not just because you owe me a copy!

[Onacara]

Here is a look at the logo for the new game...this is the initial rough sketch I did.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/6d7n.jpg

Space Station Omega is currently in the hands of another set of play-testers. I have spent the week meeting with our investor to schmooz him up some more. Gotta have the $ to get the game produced.

On another note...in order to keep RnR and our games moving forward I am taking a leap of faith and giving up my day job.

Ok I am not retarted..I will be taking another position with my company where I will be working the graveyard shift from home. This will give me more time to do the work I need to do for RnR during normal busines hours here in the states, but will also allow me to be up when folks in Europe and Asia are working too.

[NecroBlade]

I have spent the week meeting with our investor to schmooz him up some more. Gotta have the $ to get the game produced.
$chmooz away!

[Fedex worker]

Good job Ona and that other guy who's name I cant remember...

SSO looks really cool, I'll probably buy it when I can.

The other games sound good too!

[robbdaman]

Any updates on this stuff man? I now have a much better grasp on our discussion on Facebook IM from a couple months ago. I certainly would love to help out and perhaps do some playtesting. There is a local gaming club at the college that meets every week and has a minicon monthly and a few big cons a year, I would be more than willing to take some games down and test and promote them. I know you are taking a bit of a break from the site working on things and RL. Hope all is well!!

[Onacara]

I got to play it a couple of times this past weekend at TotalCon with different people. All seemed to enjoy it a lot. Made one final rule tweak that I believe completes the game.

Will be doing another blind playtest group very shortly...if anyone is interested in being a part of it then please send us an email to racnrollgaming@gmail.com. Subject: SSO Playtest

Thanks

[Onacara]

Here are some pics of the components from the current prototype...

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2025.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2027.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2026.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2028.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2023.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/tonymozzarella/IMG_2024.jpg

[quozl]

Where'd you get the worms from?

[Onacara]

Where'd you get the worms from?

They are from Mage Knight...the Player "Pawns" are from Attack..everything else I made by hand...well except for the dice, stand and wooden cubes.
;)

[Zarash]

Don't Drink the Water- Im Thirsty- All this water with nothing to drink-Have Drink will Travel- Penny for your Water- could post more but those are off the top of my head for your lifeboat game. I know its late to post but just figured I would throw something in.

[Onacara]

Got to play the game with some new folks yesterday..including LandBasedAE and Chas...oh and a sleepy Taeblewalker but he had played an early incarnation of the game. I think it went well.

The game definitely plays differently with 6 players.

Interested on hearing more feedback.

[MegaSilver]

Any updates to this game?

[Onacara]

Any updates to this game?

It is for the most part done. We have two other games nearing completion and will then decide which one will be our first game. For a new game company you need to come out with a bang, so our first game needs to have the biggest bang.

[robbdaman]

I've been wondering about this, I never did get to playtest it for you. Looking forward to hearing more.