Battle report!

[feekonea]

Okay everyone yesterday i played a 1v1v1v1 heroscape game with my frineds. We had a big debate over this, and I'd thought id show it to the experts and see what they thought. (sorry I forgot to take pics) okay so heres how the team had got drafted, (by the way, we had 3 expansion sets and the master set so thats all) we played 400 pts.

ok my team=srgt. drake, grimnak, me burg sa, agent carr

player 1= dutmef guard, raelin, brunak, minoins of utgar, marro drones

player 2= krug, AE, thorgrim, finn

player 3= svyarris, DW9, ne gok sa, zettain guards


okay thats the order we picked them in and this is how the picks went= player 2, me, player 1, player 3, player 3, player 1, me, player 2, player 2, me, player 1,player 3 and so on.


Basically, heres how it went I and player 1 both realized we were doofuses cuz i picked all heros and he had no range. (it was late and we were tired ) player 2 basically just focused on powering up krug. And player 3 just wanted a huge defense.


Now here is our history.
I was known as the best one, having the most experience and teaching everyone of these players how to play. Player 2 was pretty good, player 1 and 3 had only played this game a few times before (but believe me they know what they are doing.)


know, we catagorized it like this, we had two winners, one is the survivalist ( the person that had his team in it at the end of the game) and destructor ( the person that killed the most points) and we decided to add a twist. On sqauds it wasnt the person who killed the majority of the squad who got the points, but the person that killed the last remaining member of the squad who got the points. okay now lets get down 2 buisness.

ROUND 1
player 1 was on my left, player 2 across from me, and player 3 on my right. player 2 dropped his airborne elite and right by player 1s army. and since player 2 got to go first, he grenaded lobbed all of player 1's figs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in one turn, goodbye raelin and dutmef guard. next player 2 got to go. and moved brunak up to try and kill the AE, didnt work.
then player 3 went, and just played it safe and moved his figs allout in a bunch, since he was across the feild from wich the battle was happening.
i did the same thing, moving drake, grimnak, and me burg sa out. basicaly nothing else happened in round one so i wont bore you with that.

ROUND 2
ok so brunak and AE kept cancelling each other out, and player 3 still moved his herd in a pack. i on the other hand, moved meburg sa up and killed his 1 of his AE but soon after me burg sa had fallen (yes i know i played this stupid)

ROUND 3 (this is where it gets interesting)
okay so AE and brunak kept firing at each othe. (still nothing) and i graudually moved my grimnak closer to their squads. now player 1 and 2 are swatig bullets right now cuz of grimnaks chomp attack. then player 3 akes his deatyh wlaker and shoots @ my grimnak! th other two are cheering while im about to take out about 300 points all on my own with one card when he starts shooting at me! (now heresthe funny part we just got back from mission impossible(which was awesome) and whenever player 3 rolled he played the misiion impossible thing on his phone! and when he did guess what he rolled? all skulls! this did 2 damage to my grimnak and im like yelling at hiom while everyone else is cheering!) anyway i later advance grimnak and kill off 2 more of his Airborne elite. yet again, Dw9000 comes in, this time with height advantage, and fnishes off grimnak! player 1 was cheering because he finally got the kill for the AE (hmph) and his army was saved cuz most of his remaining points were from squads!

ROUND 4/5
okay so now im ticked, and i send srgt drake over to hit the zettain guards. while im doing that player 1 kills off DW 9k and gets another 140 pts added to his score. while this is happeneing thorgrim comes down to attack player 3 but immediatly gets destroyed by player 3s svyarris. and thorgrim of course gets placed on krug. okay so know i kill aother zettain guard. but, of course player 1s minions of utgar comes down from killing off dw9k and finish off the last zettain guard. there goes another 70 pts to player 1! now I double back and start heading to player 1 starting zone to take out his drones and brunak with my sargent drake. player 1 sends his MOU into the very heated player 3/player 2 battle but quickly realizes what im doing and retreates his MOU but 1 gets shot down in the process.


okay by ths time its late @ night and we all had to go home so we left it and figured out the point totals...

DESTRUCTOR AWARD
player 1-320 pts(AE, ZETTAIN GUARDS, AND dw9K)
player 3-200 pts (thorgrim and grimnak)
PLAYER 2-155 pts (raelin, me burg sa, and dutmef guard)
me-0 pts psssssshhhhhhhhhh

SURVIVOR AWARD
me- 210 pts (unharmed srgt. drake and unharmed carr)
player 1- 206.3 pts (unharmed brunak, all drones and1 MOU left)
player 2- 200 pts (unharmed krugand unharmed finn)
player 3- 190 pts (unharmed ne gok sa and unharmed svyarris)

now im gong to devide the playing field up into a 3 by 3 square (kinda like tic tac toe) just so you know where everyone is
drake- middle left square
carr- bottom left square
all of player 1s army- upper left square
krug- middle middle square
finn- middle right square
all of player 3s army-middle right square

sorry if i had any spelling errors as was uplate @ night and early this morning itching to tell you guys about this great night.

now here comes the question.. who do you guys think would have won had we continued? who would have won survivor? destructor? If
you have any questions, feel free to ask me, as i have no problem answering them if you are even a little confused.

thank you for your time and may I say, THIS NIGHT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!

[feekonea]

sorry everyone I just realized I did something wrong. on the survivor award I accidentally added 40.6 when it should have been 30.6 (I told you it was a late night) Okay so here is how the point system should have gone

me-210 pts
player 2-200 pts
player 1-196.6
player 3-190 pts

[UranusPChicago]

I think those four armies might be the most random armies I have ever seen.

I can't really add anything else, that's all I've got...

[spacemonkeymafia]

I agree that the armies were random but sometimes thats just as interesting. I won't bother predicting any winners as this game has so much randomness and variance in fig placement/player strategy that I'd be like predicting the weather.

usually the player in the free for all that wins is the most diplomatic and defensive. in equal armies, no army can take on 3 different fronts and last. If I put money down, the negoksa/syv army has a good chance if he stays out of it for awhile. use negoksa to block for syv's ranged sniping. but Krug could step in and just start laying the smack down on everything in sight. the two players who retreated at the end could just bide their time and see who remains standing. That's why there's no use predicting. Sounds like it was fun though and too bad that you count the last unit killed in the squad for points. That doesn't give a fair estimation on who the most destrucitve player could be. Also too bad you didn't finish. Now we'll never know- but wait maybe this can cause a flame war and Oogie can ban someone!

Let the games begin, ok goodnight

[feekonea]

Ya I agree that they are random, because he only had 1 ms,1 rttff, and 3 other expansions. (charos one, minions of utgar one, and the krug one). We had no bonding, and basically no upgrades that a person could give each other besides for raelin, dw9k with zettain guards,, finn and thorgrim, and as you can see, all of those units were taken.

[UranusPChicago]

Ya I agree that they are random, because he only had 1 ms,1 rttff, and 3 other expansions. (charos one, minions of utgar one, and the krug one). We had no bonding, and basically no upgrades that a person could give each other besides for raelin, dw9k with zettain guards,, finn and thorgrim, and as you can see, all of those units were taken.

OK, that makes more sense now. The only other problem I see is a lack of squad units; the armies are all very Hero heavy. It certainly would make for a quicker game though. I am very surprised that neither the Krav Maga or the Marro Warriors were drafted. They are pretty solid units especially in a mostly Master Set only draft.

But like spacemonkeymafia was saying, a 4-man free for all is pretty hard to judge the outcome with just army information.

[AbducteeLeader]

I agree that the armies were random but sometimes thats just as interesting. I won't bother predicting any winners as this game has so much randomness and variance in fig placement/player strategy that I'd be like predicting the weather.

usually the player in the free for all that wins is the most diplomatic and defensive. in equal armies, no army can take on 3 different fronts and last. If I put money down, the negoksa/syv army has a good chance if he stays out of it for awhile. use negoksa to block for syv's ranged sniping. but Krug could step in and just start laying the smack down on everything in sight. the two players who retreated at the end could just bide their time and see who remains standing. That's why there's no use predicting. Sounds like it was fun though and too bad that you count the last unit killed in the squad for points. That doesn't give a fair estimation on who the most destrucitve player could be. Also too bad you didn't finish. Now we'll never know- but wait maybe this can cause a flame war and Oogie can ban someone!

Let the games begin, ok goodnight

I completely agree with spacemonkeymafia's post here in regards to the diplomatic thing, I've won most of my three way games(which is most of my games period) because I simply convinced my opponents that I was a non threat to either of them at that point. Also, while the army's are a bit random, under your circumstances I can understand how they came about. As for which is better, it's a bit of a tie between Player 2 and Player 3's armies, I love the Ae with finn , but I also like Dw9k and Zettians, hate Syvaris though, he almost never seems to pull his weight in our games. In the end I gave my vote to player 3, but really it all comes down to strategy/politics.

[SyvarrisX]

Do those armies help eachother in some way i am not seeing? I voted 3 because he has SYVARRIS!

[Alastair MacDirk]

I agree that there is a problem in multi-player last man standing scenarios. It rewards the least aggressive player usually. When I do multi-player I like to make it about who can capture the most glyphs in a certain amount of roundss or who can do the most killing in a specified number of rounds. Make the winner be aggressive and get out and mix it up. Otherwise you can just grab some high ground near your starting zone and let the others grind each other up. You swoop in and mop up the remains.... a cowards victory.

[Rÿchean]

We played a 5way FFA this past weekend that Velenne had made

Best way to describe the rules is you keep what you kill. (Riddick) Each death blow you deliver nets you that figure. You add up the points for the figures (I.E. 1 KM agent = 33pts) and who ever has the most kill points wins. Last man standing gets to add his remaining figures point value to his kill points.

I thought this made for a good gaming experience.

Having said that, I believe a pure FFA is perfectly fine way to play. Yes, it rewards the person who defends and is more careful / less aggressive, but that can be a testament to skill and strategy as well.

[Tiberius]

Rychean

I like that idea of scoring what you kill instead of what you have left. That would take away the more defensive player advantage in an odd number multiplayer game. We had a 5 way 600 pt game this past weekend and the 5th man out just stood back as the rest of us paired up and slaughtered each other. He still ended up losing, but he was second place in the standing and that was only because he was inexperienced and wasnt using his units to thier fullest.

[Nwojedi]

i picked player 1, cuz that army looks very similar to ones I pick.

[KeeperOfPeace]

I also picked player 1 since it is an army I woudl probably field.

[Tiberius]

I like player 3's army, very high in the defense and range. And Ne-gok-Sa for the mind shackle threat.

[gecko_neo]

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