Forum Conduct Please Read

[Grungebob]

In response to a request for a more clear statement on our policies with regards to maintaining order here at Heroscapers, I present this. It’s been through a couple revisions already, and will go through more.

Heroscapers.com Guidelines for Conduct

General Conduct
With the launch of our new site, we added a bunch of cool stuff. We also implemented fun technology that allows us to ban or moderate commenting from certain people. We Use these tools in conjunction with the registration system to allow us to preserve what we consider to be order by sealing out anybody we feel is causing a disruption in our community.

However, this is not a public street corner. While we are rabid free speech supporters, your natural right to self expression does not require us to publish your opinion and spend bandwith and resources doing so.
We will ban for any reason and for no reason. In order to ban people who are lame, we will inevitably end up banning people who have done nothing wrong. There’s no appeal process. Bans may be permanent, and they may be adjusted to better target specific people, or repealed entirely, even within the same day.

Seriously: Most of the time no reason will be given. No explanations will be given on who’s banned, why, or when. Most of the time it will be obvious but there will be times when it might not seem so obvious to somebody not in the know.

The “no reason” section done, here’s my guess at the kind of things that will get people banned.

Abusive behavior towards others. When you post in reply to people, pretend that you are arguing with an umpire.
“You blew that call, he was safe by a mile.” = Okay
“You blow.” = Ejected

Or, if we had a Heroscapers get-together, we were all eating pizza and drinking beer, having a good time, would yelling your comment get you punched, then or later?

As with anything relating to tone, this is obviously a subjective and lame standard. It will be applied inconsistently: you may see someone get away with something one day and the next week someone’s gone for the same thing. It’s going to happen.

Leaks/Unverifiable "News"
As we have an excellent relationship with Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast we consider unsubstantiated news and information regarding Heroscape (or any other Hasbro product) to be in very poor form and will likely lead to banning. Please refrain from posting such items unless you are able to reference an official publicity release or publicly available information and photos from trade shows and conventions.
Sightings of product availability in stores and on website for pre-order are, of course, fine. A list of units to be released in a future expansion before the information is made available publicly is not.

Possible reasons for deletion or banning or warning or all of the above
What else… posting illegal offensive or pornographic links or pictures, spamming links in threads, whether it’s your site or whatever (pointing to other sites is fine, and even pointing to related articles on your own site’s been tolerated sometimes, but “come eat at Joe’s” isn’t). No signature links to Warez, porn, hate sites, or other questionable content. Absolutely no affiliate links in signature. Disparaging remarks about this site and those that run it. Being mean to new members for such things as asking questions that seem redundant or making a couple of spelling/grammar errors. Speculation about another person’s motives for taking a particular position, particularly in a negative and derogatory sense. In a disagreement constantly attampting to get the last word in is a no no, and will only fan the flames.. Not acceptible. Posing as another member or using multiple accounts, this includes the chat room. Selling or profiting off of materials that are available on our website is a violation of copyright and not only gets you banned but may lead to further action.

Again, though, that’s a non-inclusive list and is intended for you to get a general sense of what kind of comments get sent to the great message board in the sky. There will be posts that seem to violate these guidelines that are up, and posts that are deleted that seem innocuous. If you can’t live with that, then this is not a place you’re going to be happy posting at.

With all that said, this not free: We do not intend to ban anyone from commenting because they disagree with anyone else, everyone else, or specifically the viewpoints of any (or all) of the authors. You’re not required to even like me, or anyone here, though you should because there are many great people here. All you’re required to do is be civil.

On and off-topic comments

Please, please, don’t just post it in the first thread you come across. This is rude and annoying. It may get deleted and/or make someone mad.
If you’re considering starting a comment with “I know this is off-topic, but–” please, just reconsider the importance of what you’re about to post.

There is a section on our site where off-topic random thoughts and all other items not related to Heroscape may be discussed. Use your best judgment when starting a thread there. Having an off topic section does not mean our site is to be used for you to post every trivial thing that comes to mind. Practice restraint and use the off topic section sparingly or you will dilute the value of our site as a place for Heroscape information. There is a certain amount of recklessness when posting about controversial subjects. If we get the sense that one of these threads was started as a way to infuriate and amuse we will delete the thread immediately or at the first sign of trouble.

Editing or deleting posts
Posts may be deleted but the poster not banned, and a poster might get banned while the comment that provoked it remains up.

Comments will not be altered by editors unless there’s no other way to fix something, and I don’t see how that would be possible.

In some cases, we may edit a post that contains one particularly egregious violation within a larger post that is good enough that we don’t to delete it entirely. This is a judgment call, and we’re going to be inconsistent about it.

Titles of topics may be changed to better reflect the contents. Especially if the original title is "some help here" or similar unclear titles.

On identification
Fake names are fine. Offensive names and assuming the names of public figures is not, and will get your posts and account deleted. If you’re famous and want to use your real name, email us, and we can work something out.

In particular, pretending you’re a current Hasbro game designer or employee will get you banned. As will posing as another member or using multiple accounts, this includes the chat room.

Having said all of that stuff about random acts of deletion/banning, I would bet that in almost all circumstances we can easily get things done by PM’ing a note that says: “please watch tone” or something, you’re much more likely to get off the hook if you take it well.

“Regulating tone and civility, especially on the internet, is doomed to failure”
We will not concede this point yet. If we ran a nice sports bar and threw the jerks out every night, I think it’d be a place people who don’t like to be around jerks and want to watch some baseball and have a beer with like-minded people might hang out at. That is what Heroscapers.com is all about. Of the hundreds of people I have met through this community 99% are kind folks with integrity. We simply will not let a few trouble makers ruin this place for the rest… It is our commitment.

“But I want a good fight with hair-pulling and name-calling!”
Then this is not your site. There are forums all over the place. They offer different crowds and debate flavors, and if this doesn’t sound like your pint of beer, I hope you find one that’s more to your tastes.

Who polices us?
The Administrators and Moderators of this website in hopes of maintaining a fair warning and banning system will be held accountable by the other Administrators and Moderators. This is balanced by the fact that they have been part of the HeroScape community for a good length of time and are from diverse backgrounds whether it be geographic, scholastic, economic, religious, political, etc. This should allow for a balanced reaction to any dispute.

[ultradoug]

darn it , this ruins all my plans! ALL OF THEM!

[Agent Minivann]

"I hate first/last/nth-comment posts, so just don’t do that."

Probably a dumb question, but what does that mean exactly?

[Grungebob]

"I hate first/last/nth-comment posts, so just don’t do that."

Probably a dumb question, but what does that mean exactly?Sure. Have you ever been in a conflict and felt that you were at a point where you could walk away and the other person just had to put in one last remark, that fired the whole thing up again? I'm talkin Last Wordies and Rub it Inskies. These guys always keep a flame war going long after it should have stopped. If I see it I am going to take action.

[CupidsArt]

Thanks for getting this info up GB, I'll do my best to help keep the peace :horsepoo:

[SyvarrisX]

Thanks for putting this up. I always try not to get into fights...

[reapersaurus]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:

[truth]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:

Yeah I'm pretty sure your right reaper, and that's what they... err we meant :)

[Grungebob]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:Reaper I used a template from another site to form these guidelines. They appealed because they capture the sentiment of our crew. We want to have rules that are informal as our site is a casual place. As far as the line you were asking about, I will change it tonight.

[funrun]

Yeh, we have some "official" conduct guidelines! This is the type of thread that should be linked in a welcome PM when someone first registers. I also like the idea I saw in another thread of starting an introduction thread. It is always odd reading someone's first few posts and not knowing anything about their level of interest or intent here.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

It is sweet to have some structure and guidelines to fall back on.
When someone gets stinky about why they've been fingered or banned, simpy point them to this thread. It's all here laid out and worded really well! Thanks for setting this up, GB.

Nice way to start fresh, explicit, & defined.

[SyvarrisX]

What exactly does woot mean?

[netherspirit]

What exactly does woot mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woot

The term "w00t" (IPA pronunciation: [wut]) is a slang interjection used to express happiness or excitement, often expressed via the Internet. It is commonly pronouced "woot" by some gamers.

[Agent Minivann]

Thanks for the clarification.

[AgentX-127]

Grungebob

Just a suggestion...
I thought I'd mention the multiple log-in thing.
One member using multiple accounts is a disruptive tactic, and has been used in the past on the HQ.

Maybe you could add a sentence about that,
as I think that it should be considered a serious breach of trust.
I've seen it addressed in the forum rules of other sites.

[Grungebob]

Grungebob

Just a suggestion...
I thought I'd mention the multiple log-in thing.
One member using multiple accounts is a disruptive tactic, and has been used in the past on the HQ.

Maybe you could add a sentence about that,
as I think that it should be considered a serious breach of trust.
I've seen it addressed in the forum rules of other sites.I believe that is in there man..

[AgentX-127]

Okay...

Yeah...I see it now, I was looking under the "Identification" section.

As Emily LaTella would say...

Nevermind. :oops:

[bobofett]

All in all i think these guys are saying don't act like an obnoxious

!@#$%^&

[gibberish_47]

It's good to see there are clear rules on this site. They are simple, common-sense rules that everyone should have no problem following. That was one thing I thought HQ was lacking.

I'm not saying it will completely eliminate dumb, stupid, or obnoxious posts, but dumb, stupid, and obnoxious posters themselves may be eliminated. I like it. :twisted: (That wasn't out of line now, was it? JK :D )

[NiteRaider]

So does this mean I can't do *glass shatters* anymore? Oh well...

[Mr. Underhill]

Possible reasons for deletion or banning or warning or all of the above
What else… posting illegal offensive or pornographic links or pictures, spamming links in threads, whether it’s your site or whatever (pointing to other sites is fine, and even pointing to related articles on your own site’s been tolerated sometimes, but “come eat at Joe’s” isn’t).

People who visit the forum are from all over the world - sometimes I'm thinking that some are from even further away than that. So, my point is this: terms like "illegal", "offensive" and "pornographic" have different connotations in different countries.

For example, can you define "offensive" or "pornographic". Literally (I believe), pornography is the writing of prostitutes, but what is accepted in Holland may not be accepted in Iran. How does this work.

I know I'm being picky here, but it may mean the difference between someone getting reprimanded or not.

Just curious, anyway.


Mr. Underhill

P.S. If I post a naked photo of my wife, some might think it pornographic and others may not. Some might even find it offensive, some may not. Who decides what the definition of terms are?

[skyknight]

I for one would not be offended by naked pics of your wife! Well maybe not, depends on what she looked like :lol:

[ultradoug]

Warning, this is a long rant, please feel free to ingore
please do not take anything personaly.
have a nice day:


dont post anything nude!

this is a mostly american based web page, regardless of what other country people are from, assume that the laws of america apply.
post responcibly. if you think someone might be offended by it , dont post it.
the admins deside what the defentions are, but this issue is something that I know a bit about. Someone who shall remain nameless had a semi-nude picture posted. That got removed fast and they were issued a major warning.

I'll say this before the admins do, do NOT be "picky" about the rulls and/or interpation of them. this makes it look like you and/or someone (?) wants to break/bend them in some way at some date, and incorages others to become picky about the rulls.

Rember the admins can ban for ANY REASION and do not have to issue any sort of warning at all, this guildline is to give you and others an "idea" of what sort of behavor is not OK.

[Grungebob]

Thanks UD, yes there will be no naked pictures here.

[skyknight]

Oh yeah GB, what about these huh, you didn't think I would find these of you did you?
This was you with the Japanese giesha
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/0008-0502-1614-0455_SM.jpg
and here you are hung over and laying naked in the gutter
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/986611398620198.jpg

[Grungebob]

:shock: Where did you get those??

[InfinityMax]

Here's a good guideline - if you get me fired, I'm coming to your house.

[NiteRaider]

If I get fired, just remember...I have no clue where you guys live so I won't bother going after you people. (walks away quietly)

[InfinityMax]

And if Niteraider gets fired, he's going out a window.

***GLASS SHATTERS!!!***

[Jason]

"Here's a good guideline - if you get me fired, I'm coming to your house"

Sweet, if you come to my house I'll have some one to play Heroscape with

[NiteRaider]

And if Niteraider gets fired, he's going out a window.

***GLASS SHATTERS!!!*** Wait, I can still do that? I thought that qualified as aggressive to other members, though I always thought of it as something I thought of that became a smash :wink: hit amongst the site members.

[InfinityMax]

You can certainly do it to me.

[Grungebob]

And if Niteraider gets fired, he's going out a window.

***GLASS SHATTERS!!!*** Wait, I can still do that? I thought that qualified as aggressive to other members, though I always thought of it as something I thought of that became a smash :wink: hit amongst the site members.Well, we simply do not have any glass here. You may throw people but it sounds like this:

*Picks up UD and throws him against the wall*
***THUD!! Sounds of fake pre-recorded glass shattering followed by sitcom style canned laughter*****

See it is all safe now!! :P

[ninthdoc]

Okay, I'm voting that NiteRaider get to continue his "Glass Shatters" routine. I didn't get enough of it on .net and he was an apparition on the HQ. I was very honored when he made an appearance at my wake at the end of the ninthdoc's Tavern thread. Of course he made the entry in his normal way:

"***GLASS SHATTERS!!!***"

Guys, really, NiteRaider should get to continue this. One of the positive things of our relocation to this new site is the re-appearance of so many older members who kind of fell away from the HQ.

Welcome back NiteRaider, I'm glad you're here.

[Grungebob]

As far as I know, nobody has told him he couldn't do it... I think he was making fun of our forum rules.

[bunjee]

So does this mean I can't do *glass shatters* anymore? Oh well...

You must do *glass shatters*, if you don't, I'll ban you. :twisted:

And on that note: we are very reasonable people and if it is clear that you did not intend to harm or offend, we would just ask you to remove or stop doing something before being banned.

[ultradoug]

Down on your knees ultradoug.

O.k. your the boss!

[NiteRaider]

So does this mean I can't do *glass shatters* anymore? Oh well...

You must do *glass shatters*, if you don't, I'll ban you. :twisted:

And on that note: we are very reasonable people and if it is clear that you did not intend to harm or offend, we would just ask you to remove or stop doing something before being banned. Thanks. Of course GB said that there was no more glass, so I have to do a THUD, followed by pre-recorded glass shattering w/ sitcom-style laughter.

Okay, I'm voting that NiteRaider get to continue his "Glass Shatters" routine. I didn't get enough of it on .net and he was an apparition on the HQ. I was very honored when he made an appearance at my wake at the end of the ninthdoc's Tavern thread. Of course he made the entry in his normal way:

"***GLASS SHATTERS!!!***"

Guys, really, NiteRaider should get to continue this. One of the positive things of our relocation to this new site is the re-appearance of so many older members who kind of fell away from the HQ.

Welcome back NiteRaider, I'm glad you're here. Well, I'm on my grandmother's computer up in northern Arizona, and I go back down to Phoenix Tuesday. The reason why I barely ever showed up to HQ is because I can't use the computer that I used on the .net anymore (except for certain reasons) since early October of last year. Since then I was using my mom's laptop (even then, she's still afraid that I will catch a virus online). That's why I never showed up at HSHQ. Unless I use her laptop, after Monday I probably won't be back until sometime in July. I felt like I needed to clear things up on why I was M.I.A. Thanks for hearing me out.

[skyknight]

So then can I say bitchslap once a week please? :P

[ultradoug]

no topic I get involved in stays on track!

[NiteRaider]

I think I have that same exact problem. (I do owe my sucess to bunjee, though :) )

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

I don't think the community would be complete without a glass shattering here and there...

... now excuse me I have to carry this tray full of exquisite wine glasses, accross a very slippery floor of a glass bottom boat, while admiring an extremely beautiful stain glassed window... but my glasses are kind of fogging up...

What's the worst that could happen?

[Parduz]

Ok, iv'e tryed to don't ask,.... but i can't resist:

WHAT IS "GLASS SHATTERING"??????
Literally it have no sense to me, so pls explain :)

[ninthdoc]

NiteRaider all but tradmarked this phrase on .net. It was there on occasion on the HQ, but not very often, as he has just explained.

It was just fun to be reading a thread, when suddenly NiteRaider inserts "***Glass Shatters***" somewhere and makes a dramatic post about whatever.

It was very dramatic, noir, and pulpy. His old avatar was the bomb, too. Does anyone still have this?

[NiteRaider]

Yeah, I can't really find a good avatar photo (without fearing copyright infringement). No P.B. avatar!!

[Augray]

Was his avatar the dragon that looked like the My Little Pony if you looked at it funny?

[Grungebob]

Was his avatar the dragon that looked like the My Little Pony if you looked at it funny?That's the one!! Hahahha!

[NiteRaider]

I don't think the community would be complete without a glass shattering here and there...

... now excuse me I have to carry this tray full of exquisite wine glasses, accross a very slippery floor of a glass bottom boat, while admiring an extremely beautiful stain glassed window... but my glasses are kind of fogging up...

What's the worst that could happen?Sure, what's the worst thing that could happen? (mops floor with layer of slippery soap). Everything's safe! :twisted: Go right on ahead, captain! And Yes the P.B. was the dragon/pony until Malechi helped me change it and avoid me having to disappear forever.

[Augray]

Here is the infamous pony/dragon.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10053/thumb_mylittledragon.jpg

[NiteRaider]

IT BURNS US! IT BURNS US!

[Mr. Underhill]

Thanks UD, yes there will be no naked pictures here.

Interesting... I was just looking very closely at Hex_Enduction_Hour's avatar...

http://heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/20054988224483adb41bace.jpg

Just for posterity, here it is again...

http://home.amnet.net.au/~enigma1/heroscape/hex-avatar.jpg

They're in the nooodie! :shock: Hehehehehe! :D Very artistic though.



Mr. Underhill

[Venom]

lol!! now that i took a closer look... :shock:

[skyknight]

HHHEEEEYYYYYY :lol:

[ultradoug]

whats wrong with my little pony? copyright volition?
geez hasbro, look at your own figure mimring this is a clear cut copy volition right here!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim1.jpg

Now, look, I know your going- UltraDoug what are you talking about?
ok fine, I guess I have to show you!

First of all, lets just get rid of those darn wings. I meen,
they are always blocking or not blocking LOS and everything so...
gone!

go away wings!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim2.jpg

Ahh much better!

Now then - Mimrings head...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim3.jpg

hummm I dont like it...

I'm gonna turn it the other way
...

like this!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim4.jpg

yeeah...

thats alot better!


now, I dont know but he still looks kinda scary...

lets find a color thats not so scary...

I know pink!


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim5.jpg

ok, thats sorta pinkish...

lets just get rid of that nasty old black back ground...

.....


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim6.jpg


ah much better!

now to make him look pretty ^_^;;


_
_
_

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim7.jpg

awwww hesss sooo much better looking now...

let me fix this up a bit more...


....


...


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim8.jpg


Perfect.

EAT THAT SPY!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Thanks UD, yes there will be no naked pictures here.

Interesting... I was just looking very closely at Hex_Enduction_Hour's avatar...

http://heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/20054988224483adb41bace.jpg

Just for posterity, here it is again...

http://home.amnet.net.au/~enigma1/heroscape/hex-avatar.jpg

They're in the nooodie! :shock: Hehehehehe! :D Very artistic though.



Mr. Underhill

Duh!

:?

Sal Dali's skull is way famous. I'm surprised you guys didn't recognize it.

http://home.amnet.net.au/~enigma1/heroscape/dali-censored.jpg

[ultradoug]

*explodes*
(quarters go everywhere)
:quarter: :quarter: :quarter: :quarter: :quarter:

[Mr. Underhill]

Sal Dali's skull is way famous. I'm surprised you guys didn't recognize it.

Dude, I live in Australia, there's more culture in a mouldy sandwich than in the whole of Oz. :wink: I'm a complete philistine of course. :)

I'll admit that, after looking closely at your pic, I Googled "skull+nude" and found it. I thought that looked like Dali in the pic. :)


Mr. Underhill

[Mr. Underhill]

http://home.amnet.net.au/~enigma1/heroscape/dali-censored.jpg

[skyknight]

you forgot a set on top ther, leave them for me please :P

[AmishBurrito]

you completely missed the girl on top in the censoring

[ultradoug]

watches the slippery sloap of snannanananananaanananananananan batman! gins.
*hevey thud*

[Mr. Underhill]

you completely missed the girl on top in the censoring

What, you mean that isn't a man? :shock:


Mr. Underhill

P.S. Geez, you boys don't miss a thing. Prolly had your maginfying glasses out and everything. :)


Edit: Fixed the pic. Have removed offending booblies. Contact Mr. Salvador Dali for un-edited, noodie version. Thank you, that is all.

[Venom]

i wanna be part of that skull :twisted:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Horror does Dali. Art imitates art.

Mr. Underhill's enlarged and censored version of my last avatar:
http://home.amnet.net.au/~enigma1/heroscape/dali-censored.jpg

This was found by Netherspirit:
http://movies.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/thedescent/images/skull_background.jpg

[NiteRaider]

whats wrong with my little pony? copyright volition?
geez hasbro, look at your own figure mimring this is a clear cut copy volition right here!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim1.jpg

Now, look, I know your going- UltraDoug what are you talking about?
ok fine, I guess I have to show you!

First of all, lets just get rid of those darn wings. I meen,
they are always blocking or not blocking LOS and everything so...
gone!

go away wings!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim2.jpg

Ahh much better!

Now then - Mimrings head...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim3.jpg

hummm I dont like it...

I'm gonna turn it the other way
...

like this!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim4.jpg

yeeah...

thats alot better!


now, I dont know but he still looks kinda scary...

lets find a color thats not so scary...

I know pink!


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim5.jpg

ok, thats sorta pinkish...

lets just get rid of that nasty old black back ground...

.....


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim6.jpg


ah much better!

now to make him look pretty ^_^;;


_
_
_

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim7.jpg

awwww hesss sooo much better looking now...

let me fix this up a bit more...


....


...


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/mim8.jpg


Perfect.

EAT THAT SPY!Oh, dude that's just WRONG! That to me is a declaration of war, so there will be WAR! (presses war button and silly string sprays ultradoug then throws him out the window) *string shatters*. Sorry, window was open.

[ultradoug]

*pushes remote button.*

Epic.

also you missed the moving animation one:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/pring.gif

[NiteRaider]

You're evil, you know that?

[bunjee]

Added a new line to the forum conduct:

No signature links to Warez, porn, hate sites, or other questionable content. Absolutely no affiliate links in signature.


Affiliate sites are sites that get you to sign people up and you get free stuff when they do. Please do not spam the boards, users, or include in your signature line.

No, I do not have a personal problem with these things in general, but this is not the site for it.

And thank you to the user that asked me what the policy was, before adding the link to their sig line.

[bunjee]

Added another entry:

Titles of topics may be changed to better reflect the contents. Especially if the original title is "some help here" or similar unclear titles.

[NiteRaider]

Yay! Amendments! (dress like George Washington)

[shakey_snake]

IF A THREAD I CREATE GETS DELETED OR A POST I MAKE GETS DELETED OR MODDED I'D LIKE A FREAKING PM ABOUT IT. MAYBE IF YOU GUYS HAD THE DECENCY TO DO THIS IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN SO OFTEN!!!!
Because, I have the ability to learn, you see.

I was told before that this wouldn't be how you fellows would be conducting yourselves, but it's still happening.

[Grungebob]

You don't deserve a freak'n PM you *bleep*!! What you need is a lesson on how to show respect for the others here.

[shakey_snake]

GB, are you OK?
Where exactly do I show disrespect?
Is respect maybe something that is earned and not just handed out to people because they've been around since .net?
Why am I a jackass?
What was really wrong with the "day after the forth of july" thread in the Random forum?

[Grungebob]

What is wrong is your shout post. You do not have the right to shout and scream about anything you are upset about. Furthermore if you post a totally useless poll then if it happens to get deleted then that is the risk you take. Our pages are shorter now with the changes. We need to keep this in mind when we post nonsense.

[shakey_snake]

What is wrong is your shout post. You do not have the right to shout and scream about anything you are upset about.
Fair enough. But if your posts just disappeared, seemingly at random (which is completely your disgression), I'm sure you'd be frustrated. The only thing you guys are consistant with how you deal with these things, is that you're underhanded about them.
Furthermore if you post a totally useless poll then if it happens to get deleted then that is the risk you take. Our pages are shorter now with the changes. We need to keep this in mind when we post nonsense. I fail to see how that was any more nonsense than posting pics of UD spinkicking. Furthermore, that was in the "General forum" which says it is the place to post random things. It wasn't harming anything. there's nothing abusive about posting polls. I really don't see how this was any sort of problem at all.

[ninthdoc]

:ban:

:joke:

[Grungebob]

What is wrong is your shout post. You do not have the right to shout and scream about anything you are upset about.
Fair enough. But if your posts just disappeared, seemingly at random (which is completely your disgression), I'm sure you'd be frustrated. The only thing you guys are consistant with how you deal with these things, is that you're underhanded about them.
Furthermore if you post a totally useless poll then if it happens to get deleted then that is the risk you take. Our pages are shorter now with the changes. We need to keep this in mind when we post nonsense. I fail to see how that was any more nonsense than posting pics of UD spinkicking. Furthermore, that was in the "General forum" which says it is the place to post random things. It wasn't harming anything. there's nothing abusive about posting polls. I really don't see how this was any sort of problem at all.The way we deal with the other members here is none of your business. You should be more concerned with your own posts. Bottom line is that we will not sit by and let the good content on our site be diluted by useless crap. In your poll there were even 2 posts from people that felt for sure that it was going to get deleted. Why? Because it was useless. I honestly do not have to explain any of this to you, and if it upsets you then so be it. We owe you nothing.

[ninthdoc]

Guys, I don't mean to be a wet blanket or a hypocrite, but I thought that we were keeping it clean on this site. I'm the last one to criticize about using foul language in real life or on other forums in which this is permitted, but in the last 24 hours, I've seen 2 instances of inappropriate language on this site. W/in the last 24 hours I've seen an f-bomb and $h1t posted here.

Now, I do use "crap", "dammit", and any 133t speak acronyms or symbols like above here from time to time. I've even made some innuendos here. However, it's been a shock to my system to see the 2 posts that I'm referring to above.

If I'm out of line, please lemme know and I'll stfu. But I thought that we had a code of conduct that we followed on this site. Sorry to be a stick in the mud, I'm just surprised.

[InfinityMax]

Man, I don't read these boards enough. I missed all the cursing!

[funrun]

Guys, I don't mean to be a wet blanket or a hypocrite, but I thought that we were keeping it clean on this site. I'm the last one to criticize about using foul language in real life or on other forums in which this is permitted, but in the last 24 hours, I've seen 2 instances of inappropriate language on this site. W/in the last 24 hours I've seen an f-bomb and $h1t posted here.I agree that certain language doesn't belong here, and admins have removed some posts for stepping over the appropriate language line, but we can't catch it all.

If anyone sees inappropriate use of language on this site then please PM an admin with a link to the post that needs edited or removed. Usually there is at least one admin online here, so send it to whoever that happens to be.

[Drumline3469]

I have a quick queston. I made a post one time and it addressed the topic. I also expressed my frustration with the fact that jcb only complains about things and never offers any reasoning behind it. I do not think I used any foul language and yet that post is no longer there. Am I not allowed to sensibly voice my oppinion? The things I said are alot nicer then the things he says when he posts negatively about people. Please help me understand what happened.

[InfinityMax]

Drumline, there is an interesting phenomenon here. If you making sweeping generalizations that are intended to belittle, insult or irritate, that's fine. However, if you actually say to the person, 'stop that, you're being a jerk,' that's discouraged. Example:

Scaper A: I have come up with a way to make Heroscape with rocket ships.
Scaper B: The very idea of rocket ships in Heroscape is dumber than ten retarded monkeys collectively scraping their bottoms with rocks, but good luck with your project.
Scaper A: Then bite me. Why did you even post here?

Ironically, Scaper A is the one getting a warning, as he has made a personal attack. Scaper B, on the other hand, is allowed to continue berating, belittling, and insulting - as long as he doesn't actually name names.

The answer, Drumline, is to play that game (use subtle jabs, broad generalizations and deniable language, acting like a weasel so you can get away with insulting people) or ignore it. If jcb annoys you, there is an answer right underneath every one of his posts. It has a little green X and says, 'ignore.' It's a close friend of mine, because I cannot stand people who act like my hypothetical Scaper B.

[Drumline3469]

Yeah but he has good ideas every now and again. I guess you're right though. He'll just get me in trouble.

[ultradoug]

Rocket ships would be cool. I demand custom rocketships.

[funrun]

Drumline3469 I did not personally see any of the posts you are talking about, but it sounds like you may have directed your frustrations particularly to jcb, which might have been considered a personal attack that should not be posted publicly. Feel free to PM to the person you are frustrated with, but our policy is that the rest of the board should not be subject to witness personal wars, so any such post is subject to removal or edit.

InfinityMax did a decent job of explaining how this works. He would know ;), but I should also point out in his example that Scaper B type behavior has its tolerance threshold, as evidenced in part by a recent banning of one such member who did not heed our warnings.

[ninthdoc]

I know that you guys police this, I wasn't complaining, I was trying to draw attention to the issue for all members to read.

Sorry to be whiney.

[reapersaurus]

Drumline, there is an interesting phenomenon here. If you making sweeping generalizations that are intended to belittle, insult or irritate, that's fine. However, if you actually say to the person, 'stop that, you're being a jerk,' that's discouraged. Example:

Scaper A: I have come up with a way to make Heroscape with rocket ships.
Scaper B: The very idea of rocket ships in Heroscape is dumber than ten retarded monkeys collectively scraping their bottoms with rocks, but good luck with your project.
Scaper A: Then bite me. Why did you even post here?

Ironically, Scaper A is the one getting a warning, as he has made a personal attack. Scaper B, on the other hand, is allowed to continue berating, belittling, and insulting - as long as he doesn't actually name names.

The answer, Drumline, is to play that game (use subtle jabs, broad generalizations and deniable language, acting like a weasel so you can get away with insulting people) or ignore it. If jcb annoys you, there is an answer right underneath every one of his posts. It has a little green X and says, 'ignore.' It's a close friend of mine, because I cannot stand people who act like my hypothetical Scaper B.Uh - please quote exactly where this has been allowed by the Forum Guidelines.

Not naming names is still belittling the person, when there's only one person the reply could possibly apply to.
That is playing juvenile games.

The Forum Guidelines, as I am aware, are pretty clear - NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, whether they are named or not.

What IMax misunderstood is that if Scaper B said "I think the entire concept of rockets in Heroscape is absurd, and wouldn't play with anyone that wanted to use them, and further find the idea to be badly designed." that is perfectly fine, since he is commenting on the IDEA or TOPIC, not on the person.

Attacking the person is called an ad hominem attack - and AFAIK is not allowed on the boards, whether the person is named or not.

(edited to change "not belittling" to "belittling")

[skyknight]

I am so friggin confused :?

[netherspirit]

I am so friggin confused :?

Don't swear, don't call anyone names....better yet...

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[ultradoug]

netherspirit, thats a good policy, with that in mind I want to tell you how I feel:

[ultradoug]

just kidding.
you know I like you. ;)
but not as much as T.F. sorry.

[skyknight]

I am so friggin confused :?

Don't swear, don't call anyone names....better yet...

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.


Just like Kindegarten :lol:

I get it you little green fuzzy headed son of a Lich!!!!

Get it cause you have a skeleton for an avatar and I said son of a lich, cause thats like where little skeletons come from and your one of those :P

[netherspirit]

I am so friggin confused :?

Don't swear, don't call anyone names....better yet...

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.


Just like Kindegarten :lol:

I get it you little green fuzzy headed son of a Lich!!!!

Get it cause you have a skeleton for an avatar and I said son of a lich, cause thats like where little skeletons come from and your one of those :P

Generally it takes away from the joke....when you explain the joke. :P

[ultradoug]

and his heads fuzzy.
:hijacked:
make fun of N.S. time!

[skyknight]

unless you explain the joke while making another joke about the original joke.

[ultradoug]

skyknigt, your saying N.S. is a joke? thats pretty harsh words.
Thread Hijacked

[ninthdoc]

I am so friggin confused :?

Don't swear, don't call anyone names....better yet...

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Man, oh man... There are gonna be some silent gamers out there in cyberworld... :roll:

[Grungebob]

What IMax misunderstood is that if Scaper B said "I think the entire concept of rockets in Heroscape is absurd, and wouldn't play with anyone that wanted to use them, and further find the idea to be badly designed." that is perfectly fine, since he is commenting on the IDEA or TOPIC, not on the person. I am just going to point out that constantly criticizing in a negative and harsh manner can eventually get you warned or banned. You have to think of this place like it is a bar and we have the responsibility to make it as enjoyable for people as possible. Sometimes certain people get amusement out of ruining a good thing for others. This will not be tolerated here, and a person who consistantly receives lots of complaints will be asked to tone it down or leave. It is the civility clause of the forum guidelines.

[InfinityMax]

I couldn't read Reaper's reply until GB posted it, but now that I have, I think I will reply back.

Maybe some people find it acceptable to drop in on a perfectly good thread and post negative comments for the sole purpose of discouraging creativity, but I do not. I think it is a sad commentary when a member's energy is wasted on derogatory comments that add absolutely nothing to the discussion.

This quote:

"I think the entire concept of rockets in Heroscape is absurd, and wouldn't play with anyone that wanted to use them, and further find the idea to be badly designed."

would be poor form in a discussion about making rockets work in Heroscape. I didn't misunderstand. I know such a post would not get you banned, or warned. It would simply make people not like you. I fail to see how saying something like this when a person is trying to develop the idea is anything but threadcrapping, but threadcrapping is a non-punishable offense, as opposed to responding to the threadcrapping with an offer to hide the threadcrapper's head in his own rectum. Even pointing out that such a response is the sort of action taken by uncreative jerks who have nothing better to do than attempt to ruin other people's ideas, is a punishable offense.

I don't like how that works. I understand why it works that way, but I don't like it. People who cannot manage to say anything nice should be sent somewhere where they can say nothing at all, like Banville. I hear it's nice here this time of year. And when someone craps on one of my threads, I would like to have the option to say, 'how about a nice big glass of shut the hell up.'

However, I also know that this is not always how it works. I know that the single response to a negative comment is not allowed, but I also know that the routine threadcrapper will eventually find himself in a state of IP Banhood. Recent actions taken by the admins have proven that threadcrapping, while not an instant banning offense - or even a warning offense - can result in expulsion from the community. While I do not advocate banning everyone who ever has a bad day, I can say that it is nice to know that routine negativity is not acceptable.

[funrun]

routine negativity is not acceptable.
I just had to bold and enlarge this part for everyone, then correct the following. . .

Even pointing out that such a response is the sort of action taken by uncreative jerks who have nothing better to do than attempt to ruin other people's ideas, is a punishable offense.Addendum: the above is true, but I want to point out that you may still tell the offender that such a negative response is not appreciated here and they should stop it. There is a big difference between my type of response here and the above quoted punishable type of response that indirectly personally attacked the person by effectively saying they are "uncreative jerks who have nothing better to do than attempt to ruin other people's ideas". I think this example illustrates reaper's prior point in a more clear fashion.

threadcrapping, while not an instant banning offense - or even a warning offense - can result in expulsion from the community.Correction: threadcapping is a warning offense that has been executed in the past. If warnings of any sort are not heeded, you can be sure a ban will eventually follow.

FYI to imax, there was a lot more to reaper's post than what GB quoted.

[bunjee]

I would also like to mention the often over looked http://heroscapers.com/community/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_pm.gif option. Speak to the person directly, keep it off the boards. If they respond in a poor fashion, pass it on to an admin, and make sure to include your messages and posts so the admin knows the context.

And also the http://heroscapers.com/community/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_edit.gif option.
Read your posts as if there is no context. Read your posts as if you can't hear the tone. Read the link in my sig (http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb06/egos.html)

I don't find the http://heroscapers.com/community/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_ignore.gif button useful for myself. As an admin, I can't use it, and as a user, I'm not sure I would bother. I practice my restraint and scanning abilities regarding certain users. As a voyeur, I would got nutty just seeing a blank space next to a username.

And when it comes to my view, people who use the words "stupid" "gay" "retarded" or just generally use less than constructive turns of phrase drive me incredibly crazy. They work their way towards my ban urge faster than anyone that uses a "not safe for tv" word.

Ok, I'm going to finish before I get agitated.

[InfinityMax]

FYI to imax, there was a lot more to reaper's post than what GB quoted.

I'm willing to take your word for it.

Also, I completely understand about the difference between saying,

'Scaper B, if you do not have any positive input, please stop posting in this thread.'

and

'Shut up, dillhole.'

I will try to remember that the second option is no longer an option. I have to remember that, if the HQ was the Wild West, 'scapers is suburbia. I'm just having trouble making the leap from gunfighter to hedge trimmer.

[funrun]

imax, we love you man! :toast:


And just to clarify again, anyone may post negative input, so long as it is constructive criticism and not just pure ********ery.

[Grungebob]

It is still the wild west just with more law in town. One of the things that drove me nuts about HQ was the total lack of respect that folks had for the site coupled with a strange fascination for forum wars. I'm not going to have that here, because it spoils the creativity and detracts from our mission. Creativity, fellowship, information exchange, support and promotion of our hobby.

[funrun]

Change made to the rules:
Things that will get you banned. . .
Posing as another member or using multiple accounts, this includes the chat room.

[DoesntCompute]

Uber - I don't know if you have been lurking for awhile and have just never posted but you seem pretty ignorant of this site.

1) Grungebob is one of THE most evenhanded mods you will find anywhere.
2) The member in question has a history of behavior that led to the response he received.
3) The forum conduct is not all that strict. If you are polite, you can say pretty much anything you want around here.
4) The moderators of this site PAY for this site. They pay for the bandwidth and they pay with their time. The guidelines say that while they welcome your right to free speech, they do not have to pay to publish it. Simply put, if they don't like what you have to say, they can delete it and/or ban you. They don't have to give a reason. If you don't like it, there are many other sites where you can go that allow you to say whatever you want. You could also start your own.

That said, I have never seen them be excessive in their moderation of this site. They do not run it as a police state. The response given by GB was one that had many of us cheering. It was well earned and well timed.

[bunjee]

Ok, I've delete the posts that Doesn't compute was referring. *I* have my reasons, I've also saved the posts, please act and post as a responsible forum member.

Feel free to pm me to discuss this if you choose.

[Grungebob]

It is funny sometimes how there are people who are new or have contributed very little to the site. They pop up and express why they feel that they are somehow entitled to something. They usually attempt to be a champion of peoples rights as if we are somehow infringing upon that. This is a private forum. It is like some-body's home. You are all guests here. Nobody is forcing you to stay, but if you do stay you must abide by our rules. READ the guidelines!! Especially this part warning of conduct that will get you deleted warned or banned:

"Disparaging remarks about this site and those that run it"

Also note that we make decisions based upon info that you may not be privy to. To you, our policies might seem inconsistent, and we are not going to spend our time justifying what we do or how we do it. We will simply appear inconsistent. You know what? If you don't like it, you do not have to stick around and in fact I'd say that we would be better off without you.

[ORCSLAYER]

Thank you for the info.
the problem is now ended.

[NiteRaider]

It is still the wild west just with more law in town.Ironic that you say that considering that there is somewhat of a surge of cowboy figures out recently (Shotgun, Murphy, Guilty, and Deadeye). Hmmm...coincidence?? :D

[Jotun]

darn it , this ruins all my plans! ALL OF THEM!
Yikes!

[DarkSpade]

EDIT: Oops, got my threads mixed up.

[t.rex titan]

wait you can ban people who are lame and for no reason? well im not lame am i? last forum ive been in they banned me for something i didnt even say. someone took control of my account and started spamming and abusing others. trust me im a sweet kind person with a gentle nature.

[bunjee]

If you fail to properly protect your account from others, then we would reserve the right to shut off your account so that our other members would not have to suffer the abuse.

If you don't want to be banned, there is a simple solution, avoid being an ass, listen to warnings, and protect your identity.

Welcome to the boards! Your safety is our goal. wait you can ban people who are lame and for no reason? well im not lame am i? last forum ive been in they banned me for something i didnt even say. someone took control of my account and started spamming and abusing others. trust me im a sweet kind person with a gentle nature.

[Maska]

and so it continues.... *sigh*

[Cavalier]

and so it continues.... *sigh* :?:

[Tiberius]

Ummmm....Well at least he didnt start his own thread to make that statement.

[ninthdoc]

Ummmm....Well at least he didnt start his own thread to make that statement.

:lol:

[iCHOMPHulk&Abominatio]

i accdently put stuff on theevents i realize only afterwards and my buttons sometimes get stuck so i letter or two. how do i enter the secret room. :)

[Revdyer]

i accdently put stuff on theevents i realize only afterwards and my buttons sometimes get stuck so i letter or two. how do i enter the secret room. :)I long to hear the answer to this important question.

[markwars]

All your base are belong to us.

[mrbistro]

i accdently put stuff on theevents i realize only afterwards and my buttons sometimes get stuck so i letter or two. how do i enter the secret room. :)
Clam chowder and the car when I'm looking you say? Move the you are correct. :cry:

[Uprising]

i accdently put stuff on theevents i realize only afterwards and my buttons sometimes get stuck so i letter or two. how do i enter the secret room. :)Lay off the bottle son.

[bunjee]

Thank you for your input everyone, now we can return to the topic and pay no attention to the random.

[Ultarium]

darn it , this ruins all my plans! ALL OF THEM!

*shivers go down Ultariums spine*
Im glad I wasnt around when he was.

[Joah]

All your base are belong to us.
I don't know what base you speak of, but I feel like you should be banned. :P

[brickman1444]

All your base are belong to us.
I don't know what base you speak of, but I feel like you should be banned. :P

What you say?

[Shades fan]

I just had a PM that had some swears in it! I;m fine with that, but what is the rule For PM's! some of the younger members would be quite upset if some one called them an A******!
I know there isn't any swearing on the Forum, but I just want to know whats the rule about PM's!

Thanks!:D

[Onacara]

I just had a PM that had some swears in it! I;m fine with that, but what is the rule For PM's! some of the younger members would be quite upset if some one called them an A******!
I know there isn't any swearing on the Forum, but I just want to know whats the rule about PM's!

Thanks!:D

Do I win a prize if I guess who it was?

[Shades fan]

I just had a PM that had some swears in it! I;m fine with that, but what is the rule For PM's! some of the younger members would be quite upset if some one called them an A******!
I know there isn't any swearing on the Forum, but I just want to know whats the rule about PM's!

Thanks!:D

Do I win a prize if I guess who it was?
You won't be able to!
It really doesn't matter who it was, I was just curious about the rules of PM'ing!
I got the answer from FunRun!

They are Private Messages,the best thing you can do if someone is being hostile, is just ignore them!

[rubio]

So I did some searching and couldn't find a more appropriate thread then this one to bring up a point that I wanted to mention; one that I frequently have to remind myself of when reading forums on the internet.

Please try to give someone the benefit of the doubt when criticizing their posts and delivering negative rep. Remember that this game is intended for ages Eight and up; Many of our members are just beginning their ascendancy towards mastery of the English language, and while a criticism of their poor English/grammar/attitude is probably good intentioned it has potential to do just as much damage as good if not phrased or toned carefully -- and as we've all experienced in school at some point not everyone is on the same page developmentally as others. So the fine line between a kid who's trying to do his best but gets ganged-up on for missed capitalization and a belligerent punk that's here because his usual Yahoo chat room is closed for remodeling is really almost impossible to read without perspective and knowledge of the posters age and intentions. To me the rigid and sometimes vaguely hostile approach to these infractions discourages some newcomers from posting for fear of reprisal or a wrist-slap.

This was not directed towards any individual anymore then it was directed at myself, but more as a "please take a deep breath before clicking the 'Post Flaming Reply' button".

I'll get off my soapbox now and go back to lurking, thanks.

[Richard]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:

I agree with this reapersaurus, this needs to be on this site for noobs to access. Now we just to need to add a proper grammer clause and we'll be good as gold.

[Jim]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:

I agree with this reapersaurus, this needs to be on this site for noobs to access. Now we just to need to add a proper grammer clause and we'll be good as gold.

Grammar.

:twisted:

Jim

Couldn't resist!

[Onacara]

WOW.
What an awesomely detailed, expansive, well-thought-out and well-written statement that gives members an idea of what this site is trying to do.

MAJOR kudos to everybody involved - this is something that (IMO) this community has needed for 2 years now - glad to see a liveable, breathable set of expectations detailed by the Mod crew. :thumbsup:

And I thought 1st/last/nth post was when someone starts a thread and says "First post here yadda yadda" or "This is my last post here yadda yadda" or "This is my 1000th post! Wooot me!" :shrug:

I agree with this reapersaurus, this needs to be on this site for noobs to access. Now we just to need to add a proper grammer clause and we'll be good as gold.

Grammar.

:twisted:

Jim

Couldn't resist!

How many times now has someone misspelled Grammar as Grammer?

http://lcaryle.com/media/1/20080630-WAGNY_280608_08.jpg

Oh..Ok... thanks Kelsey. :thumbsup:

[Revdyer]

I always love it when people quote banned members for their excellent advice on forum conduct. :reapershrug:

[Onacara]

I always love it when people quote banned members for their excellent advice on forum conduct. :reapershrug:


JCB couldn't have said it any better than that Rev. <evilgrin>

[Jim]

I always love it when people quote banned members for their excellent advice on forum conduct. :reapershrug:


JCB couldn't have said it any better than that Rev. <evilgrin>

UD might be able to, but nobody would be able to decipher it.

Jim

[Revdyer]

I thought using the "reapershrug" animated icon was a nice touch, one worthy of a SuperAtheist.

[Richard]

Sorry to revive this thread, but I think I'm going to start recommending this thread to anyone I welcome to this site. Is that a good idea, or does it come off as rude?

[scottishlad5]

I thought using the "reapershrug" animated icon was a nice touch, one worthy of a SuperAtheist.
:reaper:

[Elginb]

I get frustrated when threads devlove into bickering over forum ettiquette (whether it be about using proper english, the search function or whatever). Is there any way the moderators could encourage folks to PM ettiquette violators instead of hi-jacking any particular thread?

I figure that 95% of the folks reading any given thread already understand the rules (both unspoken or otherwise), so I don't see any significant reason why posters need to be called out in the middle of a thread that might otherwise be interesting. I suppose some people may not check for PMs, but it would be nice if that would be the first route before taking it to the middle of a potentially interesting discussion.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

[DrRansom]

I get frustrated when threads devlove into bickering over forum ettiquette...
I don't see any significant reason why posters need to be called out in the middle of a thread that might otherwise be interesting.

I agree with you. This topic has actually been on my mind a little bit lately. I work with allot of junior aged folks, both professionally and personally. Most of the time when I see someone that I judge to be between 12-15 on this board chances are they are being hounded by people that neg rep for imperfect grammar, age appropriate (for a youngster) conversations and asking rookie questions.

I don't want to post a neg-rep magnent but it bothers me and I think these practices are unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for people with higher language skills than myself. I even appreciate being challenged. But do we really need to be so abrasive?

I guess what I'd like to say is that you don't need to like every thread. If you don't want to have a conversation that seems to be of middle school mentality, then don't participate. I happen to enjoy conversing with youngsters. But In the past few weeks I think several newer members have been run into the red in such a manner.

I was even thinking about starting a new thread to discuss it on but hopefully this thread will generate some dialogue on the subject.

Peace

[J4Jandar]

I get frustrated when threads devlove into bickering over forum ettiquette...
I don't see any significant reason why posters need to be called out in the middle of a thread that might otherwise be interesting.

I agree with you. This topic has actually been on my mind a little bit lately. I work with allot of junior aged folks, both professionally and personally. Most of the time when I see someone that I judge to be between 12-15 on this board chances are they are being hounded by people that neg rep for imperfect grammar, age appropriate (for a youngster) conversations and asking rookie questions.

I don't want to post a neg-rep magnent but it bothers me and I think these practices are unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for people with higher language skills than myself. I even appreciate being challenged. But do we really need to be so abrasive?

I guess what I'd like to say is that you don't need to like every thread. If you don't want to have a conversation that seems to be of middle school mentality, then don't participate. I happen to enjoy conversing with youngsters. But In the past few weeks I think several newer members have been run into the red in such a manner.

I was even thinking about starting a new thread to discuss it on but hopefully this thread will generate some dialogue on the subject.

Peace

New members are easy marks here at times. From what I have seen, The brand spanking new members are negged by the "just got the wet off their ears" members who have gone through the criticisms of new membership and are looking to get some payback.

The hang out is supposed to be a place for the newer members to learn the ropes but they often stray into the shark infested waters chumming with their improper grammar. The more experienced members do offer multiple warnings. Some choose to heed those warnings and some defy the warnings and are negged accordingly for the most part.

Mostly I think there is abuse of neg power amongst new site supporters. Members always have the ability to PM an administrator with a problem and a post can always be reported using the http://www.heroscapers.com/community/images/jungle/buttons/report.gif (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/report.php?p=758940) button. People simply do not do this or have ignored this thread.

I whole heartedly believe in what you are saying. The site members need "Father/Mother" like qualities first and that is hard to come by in a fourteen year old.

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[Anitar]

What exactly does woot mean?

Nothing unless there's another woot after it.

woot = meaningless
woot woot = an interjection of joy

[Revdyer]

What exactly does woot mean?

Nothing unless there's another woot after it.

woot = meaningless
woot woot = an interjection of joyI thought woot was an acronym for "What 'ould OJ to?"

[Lord Pyre]

What exactly does woot mean?

Nothing unless there's another woot after it.

woot = meaningless
woot woot = an interjection of joy

Did you check the date of that post?

May 17th, 2006, 07:19 PM


I think he doesn't care anymore....

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

I get frustrated when threads devlove into bickering over forum ettiquette...
I don't see any significant reason why posters need to be called out in the middle of a thread that might otherwise be interesting.

I agree with you. This topic has actually been on my mind a little bit lately. I work with allot of junior aged folks, both professionally and personally. Most of the time when I see someone that I judge to be between 12-15 on this board chances are they are being hounded by people that neg rep for imperfect grammar, age appropriate (for a youngster) conversations and asking rookie questions.

I don't want to post a neg-rep magnent but it bothers me and I think these practices are unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for people with higher language skills than myself. I even appreciate being challenged. But do we really need to be so abrasive?

I guess what I'd like to say is that you don't need to like every thread. If you don't want to have a conversation that seems to be of middle school mentality, then don't participate. I happen to enjoy conversing with youngsters. But In the past few weeks I think several newer members have been run into the red in such a manner.

I was even thinking about starting a new thread to discuss it on but hopefully this thread will generate some dialogue on the subject.

Peace

New members are easy marks here at times. From what I have seen, The brand spanking new members are negged by the "just got the wet off their ears" members who have gone through the criticisms of new membership and are looking to get some payback.

The hang out is supposed to be a place for the newer members to learn the ropes but they often stray into the shark infested waters chumming with their improper grammar. The more experienced members do offer multiple warnings. Some choose to heed those warnings and some defy the warnings and are negged accordingly for the most part.

Mostly I think there is abuse of neg power amongst new site supporters. Members always have the ability to PM an administrator with a problem and a post can always be reported using the http://www.heroscapers.com/community/images/jungle/buttons/report.gif (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/report.php?p=758940) button. People simply do not do this or have ignored this thread.

I whole heartedly believe in what you are saying. The site members need "Father/Mother" like qualities first and that is hard to come by in a fourteen year old.

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Actually, 12-15 year-olds should have no troubles with proper grammar and spelling. Look at my posts, for example. Casual grammar is fine, but jus dont tok lik tis plz i rly dnt lik it. It's not that hard. If you use basic grammar taught in 5th grade, you should do just fine. I've never seen anyone attacked for misusing a semicolon or for the occasional typo. It's almost always for using chat speak and for neglecting their shift key entirely. Also, there is no reason your spelling shouldn't be up to par, when there's the little spell check button in the corner of each post.

Also, the Hangout isn't a spambox for bad grammar. Most of us there use better grammar than some of the olduns I've seen out on the main forum, and we have very interesting and educated conversations there. We have a very interesting conversation going right now about theology that hasn't disintegrated into bickering or insults, after 10 pages or so.

What exactly does woot mean?
woot = an expression of joy
woot woot = a redundant expression of joy

Fixed.

[albertic26]

These rules will definetly keep the peace thanks for the info i'll make sure to remeber all the rules.8)

[MegaSilver]

Speaking of banning, the person I have just recently traded with has got banned. The figures I was trading to him had the wrong address, and i will be mailing them out on Tuesday.

I had just told him this the day before, and he sent me a e-mail today replying, and his name was crossed out and banned.

Now, how will I be able know if he gets them fine? I do not know i should mention his name, but why did cov (intinials) get banned? i didn't see anything wrong going on.

MegaSilver

[Grungebob]

Speaking of banning, the person I have just recently traded with has got banned. The figures I was trading to him had the wrong address, and i will be mailing them out on Tuesday.

I had just told him this the day before, and he sent me a e-mail today replying, and his name was crossed out and banned.

Now, how will I be able know if he gets them fine? I do not know i should mention his name, but why did cov (intinials) get banned? i didn't see anything wrong going on.

MegaSilverIs there a chance that you are getting ripped off by him?

[MegaSilver]

No, no I just found out that cartographer of valhalla was forcibly banned by his mother, due to "overuse" of the computer.

I just found his post asking this.:lol::roll:

And I will still mail the Knights on Tuesday.

MegaSilver

[Grungebob]

No, no I just found out that cartographer of valhalla was forcibly banned by his mother, due to "overuse" of the computer.

I just found his post asking this.:lol::roll:

And I will still mail the Knights on Tuesday.

MegaSilverHe asked to be banned. When folks ask to be banned, we usually comply, but from now on I think we should check to see if they are involved in a trade.

[BassistofDoom]

What are reputation points?

[Onacara]

What are reputation points?

Seek and ye shall find.

Or just click the link below.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=27265

[hobosock]

I get frustrated when threads devlove into bickering over forum ettiquette (whether it be about using proper english, the search function or whatever).

This kind of thing happens all the time on just about every forum. The thing is, people like to debate, and there is a thin line between debate and confrontation. The primary difference is that in a debate people are enjoying the argument. The reason they enjoy it is because they know the other person isn't trying to insult them. But, since it is often difficult to tell tone in a typed response, people tend to get defensive and suddenly the thread falls apart.

Maybe including smilies will make your criticism seem less offensive and your jokes/sarcasm more obvious.

[Griffin]

I have a question about swear words.

I have only been a Marvel Moderator for a short time, and I was kinda just thrown a badge and shoved out of the door. :lol:
Now I have spent most of my moderator power moving threads and posts, updating front pages, and that sort of maintenance type of thing, with the occasional deletion of an angry comment directed at a neg reper in a thread that would definitely disrupt things.
But my question is this, is it OK that I altered someones post that used G**D*** in it so that it said GOD Bless instead (I did leave an editors tag letting them know that I edited it and why)?
Not only did the comment offend me (and this site is my home from home as much as anyone else), but I thought it was very inappropriate on what is to be considered a child safe and family friendly website. Let me know if I was out of line. Thanks.

[jschild]

That would be directly altering the intent of the words in that situation. Putting Gosh Darnit still keeps the same intent, but is more nicely phrased.

IE, telling someone to go to H*** is not the same as telling them to go to Heaven. You're changing intent when you alter that way.

[Griffin]

That would be directly altering the intent of the words in that situation. Putting Gosh Darnit still keeps the same intent, but is more nicely phrased.

IE, telling someone to go to H*** is not the same as telling them to go to Heaven. You're changing intent when you alter that way.
I would agree with that, if I hadn't heard people my entire life use the term "God Blessit" as a more dumbed down version of GD.

[J4Jandar]

That would be directly altering the intent of the words in that situation. Putting Gosh Darnit still keeps the same intent, but is more nicely phrased.

IE, telling someone to go to H*** is not the same as telling them to go to Heaven. You're changing intent when you alter that way.
I would agree with that, if I hadn't heard people my entire life use the term "God Blessit" as a more dumbed down version of GD.

Why not change it to something showing dissatisfaction in an overtly toned down way like. "Aw shucks", "fiddle sticks" or "cheese and rice". ;)

[Onacara]

You would probably be better off asking the Admins to consider adding it to the FILTER rather than imposing your own personal censorship.

If it does offend you then by all means feel free to Neg Rep the individual using the term.

There is a lot of things said on here that aren't "family friendly" if you know what the person is talking about.

I am all for people having their religious beliefs...but I am against people forcing their beliefs on others.

[rednax]

On a similar note, I have some people abreviate swear words without asterisks, such as spelling out f*** but without the c. Is/should this be allowed?

[Revdyer]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, when someone uses one of the many ways of defeating the language filter on this site, it simply tells me that that person has that kind of potty mouth and mind. They may think it's cool or funny, of course, but all it makes me think is that they have poor manners and a weak vocabulary. Unwanted profanity, in other words, is its own punishment, as far as I'm concerned.

[Jim]

That would be directly altering the intent of the words in that situation. Putting Gosh Darnit still keeps the same intent, but is more nicely phrased.

IE, telling someone to go to H*** is not the same as telling them to go to Heaven. You're changing intent when you alter that way.
I would agree with that, if I hadn't heard people my entire life use the term "God Blessit" as a more dumbed down version of GD.
Just for the record, I've never heard "God Blessit" (or anything similarly "opposite") used in place of the original phrase. I've heard plenty of other choices (Dang, darn, etc.).

[RabSheila]

Just for the record, I've never heard "God Blessit" (or anything similarly "opposite") used in place of the original phrase

You haven't been hanging out with enough gold prospectors, then. You'll hear everything from God Blessit to Dagnabbit and even the occasional Consarnit.

Heh, "Consarnit."

[Onacara]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, when someone uses one of the many ways of defeating the language filter on this site, it simply tells me that that person has that kind of potty mouth and mind. They may think it's cool or funny, of course, but all it makes me think is that they have poor manners and a weak vocabulary. Unwanted profanity, in other words, is its own punishment, as far as I'm concerned.

But will you let them sit on your lap at GenCon Santa Rev?

[Revdyer]

But will you let them sit on your lap at GenCon Santa Rev?"Let" may be the wrong word. Sometimes you don't have a choice.

[Ryougabot]

I always love it when people quote banned members for their excellent advice on forum conduct. :reapershrug:

This image made me think of this thread
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/banned.gif
Do not sass mods...

[fireemblemrox]

Thanks for the excellent read on forum conduct, Grungebob. During your clarifications against multiple accounts you mentioned a chat room. How does that work, and where may I find such a room? If this is deemed unrelated then feel free to delete it. I just view a chat room like the one mentioned as a great communication tool. :)

[Revdyer]

Thanks for the excellent read on forum conduct, Grungebob. During your clarifications against multiple accounts you mentioned a chat room. How does that work, and where may I find such a room? If this is deemed unrelated then feel free to delete it. I just view a chat room like the one mentioned as a great communication tool. :)In the first few months of the site there was a chat room. It was not used much and when it was, it was often the locus of abuse; so it was dropped.

[fireemblemrox]

It's a real shame that it was abused in such a way. Maybe in the future it could be brought back via the groups? For example, the mapmaker community could toss around ideas without cluttering the boards, and the 17 and unders could chill out and have a relaxed conversation about scape. But I suppose if it's no longer here, there must have been good reason to give it the axe. :sad:

[flameslayer93]

It's a real shame that it was abused in such a way. Maybe in the future it could be brought back via the groups? For example, the mapmaker community could toss around ideas without cluttering the boards, and the 17 and unders could chill out and have a relaxed conversation about scape. But I suppose if it's no longer here, there must have been good reason to give it the axe. :sad:

There was an attempt to create a chat room with an facebook group. But once 'Scape cancelled, it was pretty much abandoned. Could try looking up Heroscapers Chat on facebook though. It might get restarted(though its unlikely).

[Griffin]

Apparently "retaliatory neg rep" is a "no no". I had never heard of this before. If I have overlooked that I am sorry and could someone please point me to where that rule is?

If it isn't here in the OP, can we have it added?

[TheSparkleInYourWater]

Apparently "retaliatory neg rep" is a "no no". I had never heard of this before. If I have overlooked that I am sorry and could someone please point me to where that rule is?

If it isn't here in the OP, can we have it added?

From the Your Reputation and You (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=27265) thread. Second post (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=935188&postcount=2), second bulletin point.


DO NOT reciprocate Rep, whether it's positive or negative. If you are given a boon or dock, DO NOT go hunt down the user that gave it to you and respond similarly. That user will be docked/booned by the community when they deserve it based on the merit of their posts or lack thereof, NOT based on your like or dislike of the Rep comment they left for you.

[Revdyer]

Besides, whether "no retaliatory neg rep" is in the official guidelines (and it is) or not, it is not honorable behavior. I know that doesn't mean much to a lot of people these days, but it still does to some of us.

[Griffin]

Apparently "retaliatory neg rep" is a "no no". I had never heard of this before. If I have overlooked that I am sorry and could someone please point me to where that rule is?

If it isn't here in the OP, can we have it added?

From the Your Reputation and You (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=27265) thread. Second post (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=935188&postcount=2), second bulletin point.
DO NOT reciprocate Rep, whether it's positive or negative. If you are given a boon or dock, DO NOT go hunt down the user that gave it to you and respond similarly. That user will be docked/booned by the community when they deserve it based on the merit of their posts or lack thereof, NOT based on your like or dislike of the Rep comment they left for you.
Thanks Sparkle. I appreciate the helpful direction.

You must spread some Retaliatory Positive Reputation around before giving it to TheSparkleInYourWater again.
;)

[DrRansom]

Besides, whether "no retaliatory neg rep" is in the official guidelines (and it is) or not, it is not honorable behavior. I know that doesn't mean much to a lot of people these days, but it still does to some of us.

:) And even though my drop of rep doesn't mean any thing in your bucket, it's the thing to do. Right on brotha!

[Su-Bak-Na]

I typed this up for a new member and thought it might be helpful to others starting out. It's directed towards younger members as well, but it works for everyone.

Hope this is the right place to add this kind on input.

Heres the link:
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=1455817&postcount=24