Heroscape App

[HiTech126]

Firstly, I apologize if this is the wrong forum. It doesn't really fit with any of the other topics, but it is not off topic.

I am good at coding in HTML and am just starting to learn java. I have some software that allows you to create an iPhone/iPod Touch app in HTML and then add things to make it work with the iPhone/iPod Touch. I thought it would be cool to have a resource with Heroscape information, even when internet is not available.

I would like to know if people are interested in this. Also would I be able to use direct references to Heroscape if 1. I put the thing about it being WOTC's property. 2. If it is a free app in the app store.

And if you are interested in this please tell me what you would like to see in the app.

Update: After a very long delay... I got the website up!
Go to: http://hsapp.tk/
Check it out!
This is "beta testing" before I release the app iPhone/iPod Touch
Post any, bugs, issues, things you want to see added, things you would like removed, ideas, questions, or comments here.

Update: The app is in Beta testing for Jailbroken devices.
If you would like to try the app out, PM me. I will give you the download link. Post any, bugs, issues, things you want to see added, things you would like removed, ideas, questions, or comments here.

[ProtoFury]

This is one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time! Definitely do this!

Some thing I may suggest to put in the app--

A complete list of the rules,
A complete list of units--with cost,
A complete list of the Glyphs and they're effects,
and, if you could do it,
A few map instructions for common BoV maps like Turret Rocks, Embattled Fen, and Highways and Dieways.

Whether you can or can't fit all of this into an app, I'd still say that any kind of resource for HeroScape in the app store is brilliant! Most definitely, +rep!

[CheddarLimbo]

Sounds like a good idea to me!

There are a lot of rules and unit stat resources on BoardGameGeek. I would think if it were not appropriate to publicize that information BGG would not allow those sorts of things to be uploaded - at least not for very long. So, I think you're okay.

[Obsidian]

Sounds cool HiTech126!

I am always interested in the probabilities in heroscape. You could include sisypus' tables (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=16263), and/or some functions from the probability calculator (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=25738). The calculator is in python, but you could easily re-write it in java or whatever.

Another idea is an army builder. Let the user say how many points, then let them choose the units from a list, and the app keeps track of the points.

[HiTech126]

Ok thanks for the ideas. I have ran into a little problem with the software I was using, so I will probably not get it done by NHSD which had been my goal. I still fully plan on doing this, but it may take a little longer than expected. In the meantime continue to post things you would like to see included

[ProtoFury]

Basically everything that has been posted is great! These are all great ideas, and whether we can get it by NHSD or not is no problem (at least not for me). Just having the opportunity to have it at all is awesome.

[Sup3rS0n1c]

I think an app like this (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/downloads.php?do=file&id=1333) would be nice.
^_^

(Just a suggestion, of course)

[HiTech126]

Ok, sorry I haven't posted. I am beginning work on the program and will add a poll to the forum to see what people want from the app.

[KCU Master 2007]

I'm excited. I have been searching the app store hoping that someone would have made some kind of heroscape app but to no avail. Now I have something to look forward too.

My only suggestion, keep it simple.

Maybe start with an army builder and collection tracker of some kind. Maybe add a favorite maps sort of thing later.

[Agent Minivann]

If you can browse the internet on your iPhone, isn't this about the only "app" that you need: http://heroscape.glasq.com/home.xhtml

[HiTech126]

If you can browse the internet on your iPhone, isn't this about the only "app" that you need: http://heroscape.glasq.com/home.xhtml

It could be, but because this is an app it will be offline, quicker, and hopefully have more resources.

[ProtoFury]

I still say go for it. It's an excellent idea.

[GreenLanturn]

It is a great idea.

Things I'd like to see in order of importance to me:
A read out of each card. (Maybe in a playing card fashion because it would fit and look nicer.)
The Probability Calculator (posted before)
A way to save armies that you've thought of.
These (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=8390) (with permission of course).
Maybe a way to roll HS dice in the app? It would save some table space sometimes. I'd use it when I build a map on the floor.
An in app mmorpg with over 1000 quests. (start programming :p)

[Ryougabot]

It is a great idea.

Things I'd like to see in order of importance to me:
A read out of each card. (Maybe in a playing card fashion because it would fit and look nicer.)
The Probability Calculator (posted before)
A way to save armies that you've thought of.
These (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=8390) (with permission of course).
Maybe a way to roll HS dice in the app? It would save some table space sometimes. I'd use it when I build a map on the floor.
An in app mmorpg with over 1000 quests. (start programming :p)

Of course you can use by charts. It is the next logical step from a laminated 8.5X11

I mentioned in this (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=27269) thread that I would love to see a dice roller. I have one in excel, but it only works on palm pilots that we have at work.

[Pickledpie]

As for the theme, I say use a medieval theme, but not like strictly knights and castles, so that it looks it could fit with anything if you wanted.

[b57123m]

GREAT IDEA!!! using the battleplan program could probably work

[ProtoFury]

I just want to see this done. Even if it was simply a dice roller with synergy charts, it would be cool to have nonetheless. Just make sure you implement the copyright tagline for Hasbro, so's you can't get yourself sued. (Although with a free app, I'm not sure if that could even happen. Better safe than sorry, I suppose.)

And I may be wrong fells, but it looks like an overwhelming public outcry for the futuristc-style display. ;)

[Gamernerd]

I have an idea, what if it is a heroscape handbook with all characters, stats rules, map ideas/instructions and a dice roller!

[HiTech126]

Ok my current list of features is the following:

Army cards- shows a trading card form of all cards listed by General
Synergy charts- thanks to Ryougabot
Probability charts- with the owners permission
rules- full set of rules for all sets
Glyphs- list of all glyphs and all there information
Maps- Building steps with some of the most popular maps

I also plan on contacting someone with an army builder and a dice roller to ask for a form of it to integrate into the app.

[ProtoFury]

Ok my current list of features is the following:

Army cards- shows a trading card form of all cards listed by General
Synergy charts- thanks to Ryougabot
Probability charts- with the owners permission
rules- full set of rules for all sets
Glyphs- list of all glyphs and all there information
Maps- Building steps with some of the most popular maps

I also plan on contacting someone with an army builder and a dice roller to ask for a form of it to integrate into the app.

That's fantastic! Do you already have that all coded or is that just the basic plan for now?

[HiTech126]

That's fantastic! Do you already have that all coded or is that just the basic plan for now?



I have the main page coded and all the resources gathered <gathering the recourses took the longest> my plan is to code two pages a day at the least.

[Warlord Alpha]

That's fantastic! Do you already have that all coded or is that just the basic plan for now?


I have the main page coded and all the resources gathered <gathering the recourses took the longest> my plan is to code two pages a day at the least.

Do you need anything specific currently? I dunno if I could do anything to help, but if you need something in particular I might be able to assist. You said you already had resources gathered, but if you had some other ideas for things to include in the app or whatever I might be able to help.

[HiTech126]

Thanks for the offer Warlord Alpha! Many people have asked me to include a Army Builder and a Dice Roller. I contacted the guy about using battleplan but he said it was property of Mythalade.(sorry if I spelled that wrong) If you could find a army builder or dice roller thats all I really need right now.8)

[Warlord Alpha]

Thanks for the offer Warlord Alpha! Many people have asked me to include a Army Builder and a Dice Roller. I contacted the guy about using battleplan but he said it was property of Mythalade.(sorry if I spelled that wrong) If you could find a army builder or dice roller thats all I really need right now.8)


Is there a free dice rolling app on the app store currently? If it is free you might be able to approach the guy and ask for the code for the dice roller.

About the army builder, what did you have in mind? Like, select units from a list and it adds them and their point values up for you?

[Ryougabot]

You know what would be awesome, add the S (http://waronline.net/heroscape/draft/hsdraft.zip)urprisingly Tart Heroscape Draft Wizard (http://waronline.net/heroscape/draft/hsdraft.zip)

With permission of course

[HiTech126]

Who owns the draft wizard? So I may ask them permission to use it.

I have synergy charts, probability charts, and glyphs fully coded. 8)

If someone could find me a copy of the official rules in either basic text or picture format, it would be appreciated.

[KCU Master 2007]

What if you just put the new FAQ on there instead?

[shadow_111]

I like the Idea. I'm looking forward to it coming out. The amount of stuff in this thing is unreal. I will definitely be downloading it.

So you need a copy of the rules in text or picture format? 1st or second edition? PM me about whether you need 1st or 2nd edition, and I will try to find some time to copy my rulebook onto the computer. It would just be text, though, and I only have Rise of the Valkyrie.

[HiTech126]

Ok on the maps. Can I get everyone to say what maps they would like to see included. I will put a pic of the map and building instructions for each map in the map section.

[Warlord Alpha]

BoV maps, definitely. Would it be possible for you to make a kind of template so that we could just kind of do the work for you, then you just copy and paste?

That way we could potentially get loads of maps without having you do tons of work. Of course, you probably have file size in mind, so we limit it to like one map suggestion per person?

[HiTech126]

BoV maps, definitely. Would it be possible for you to make a kind of template so that we could just kind of do the work for you, then you just copy and paste?

That way we could potentially get loads of maps without having you do tons of work. Of course, you probably have file size in mind, so we limit it to like one map suggestion per person?

Yea I can make a template. I will make one in just a sec. Never mind it would take me longer to set it up then to just do it myself.

[DrLivingston]

Great idea!

Looking forward to seeing it!

+rep!

[HiTech126]

:bump:

My progress has been halted for now, as I am waiting for two forum members to get back to me about permission to use their content.

[ProtoFury]

That's annoying... I can't wait to get this thing on my iPod!

Now we just need playable 'Scape on the iPod. Bahaha.

[Grungebob]

A random Glyph generator would be useful.

[HiTech126]

I have a video of part of the app up. It is running on my computer and it is not sized for the iPhone/iPod Touch in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAGbRTgCtMo.

The sections I show are: Main Screen, Synergy Charts, Probability Charts, and Glyphs. I still have: Army Cards, Maps, and Rules to do. If you dont see something you want request it. (I was denied permission to use battleplan)

[Warlord Alpha]

That is going to be so awesome once it is done!

[Ryougabot]

FYI, there is an updated version of the charts

[HiTech126]

Update:
I added the Heroscape Power Rankings
I got the files for the army cards.

[HiTech126]

Sorry for the double post.

Please tell me if you would rather see the army cards organized by:
1. General
2. Type (Orc, Knight, ect.)
3. Rating (+A A -A ect.)
4. Other (Put what it is)

[ProtoFury]

Alphabetical order might be good, that way we could easily find who we are looking for.

[rednax]

I think the best would be by General. When I think of Syvarris, the first thing I think of is Ullar, not S. Then within the General organization, alphabetical organization.

Also, as far as the order of generals go, I would probably say Jandar, Utgar, Einar, Ullar, Vydar, Aquilla. Not exactly sure why, it just sounds appropriate.

[Warlord Alpha]

A list by points might be nice too. Is it possible to do both points and alphabetical?

[HiTech126]

I like rednax's idea. I could do both but that would take a while. I may end up doing that but not right away.

[Pickledpie]

Probably the best thing to do would be to have a filter, so you can choose how it is organized.

[rednax]

I like rednax's idea. I could do both but that would take a while. I may end up doing that but not right away.

I'm liking this guy already. 8)

[b57123m]

Is there any idea when this will be done?

[HiTech126]

Is there any idea when this will be done?

It should have been done a while ago. I have ran into many problems though. I had a computer problem and I ended up building a new one. Then I transfered all the files. When its finished I have to mess with apple so i'm not sure.

[b57123m]

No rush, just glad to see something like this being done. Thanks.

[KCU Master 2007]

Also, as far as the order of generals go, I would probably say Jandar, Utgar, Einar, Ullar, Vydar, Aquilla. Not exactly sure why, it just sounds appropriate.

The OCD part of me would rather see: Jandar, Einar, Utgar, Vydar, Aquilla, Ullar. I say that because it follows the color wheel.

[HiTech126]

Could someone tell me where to find colored symbols for all 6 generals?

[Pickledpie]

Could someone tell me where to find colored symbols for all 6 generals?
In the gallery. Just search General Logos.
EDIT: Someone +repped me for this post with no name or comment?

[HiTech126]

Could someone tell me where to find colored symbols for all 6 generals?
In the gallery. Just search General Logos.

Thanks. I missed them browsing.

[rednax]

Also, as far as the order of generals go, I would probably say Jandar, Utgar, Einar, Ullar, Vydar, Aquilla. Not exactly sure why, it just sounds appropriate.

The OCD part of me would rather see: Jandar, Einar, Utgar, Vydar, Aquilla, Ullar. I say that because it follows the color wheel.

That would be sort of cool as when selecting which general a "Color wheel" could pop up, and you simply select which one you would like to view.

Too bad Vydar isn't orange (it would look bad with robots/agents, but then at least we'd have all the colors.)

[KCU Master 2007]

I was going by the Color Wheel Theory of Heroscape...it was written a while back and is buried somewhere on this sight.

[Pickledpie]

I was going by the Color Wheel Theory of Heroscape...it was written a while back and is buried somewhere on this sight.
:shock:
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=9481&highlight=color+theory

[SpartanNinja]

I have a video of part of the app up. It is running on my computer and it is not sized for the iPhone/iPod Touch in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAGbRTgCtMo.

The sections I show are: Main Screen, Synergy Charts, Probability Charts, and Glyphs. I still have: Army Cards, Maps, and Rules to do. If you dont see something you want request it. (I was denied permission to use battleplan)
You've probably fixed it by now... but nobody mentioned it, and presentation is everything... On your main menu the option "probibility" should be spelt "probability" :)

It looks awesome though! I'd use it if I had an iPhone...

[ProtoFury]

Yeah, I really liked the lok of things as they were as well. Keep up the good work!

[Pickledpie]

Just checking to see how progress is going. Now that I actually have an iPod Touch, the suspense kills me even more.

[HiTech126]

Things have slowed down some because I am working on the organizing the army cards which is very time consuming. When I am done I will make a video showing the army card section.

[Pickledpie]

Things have slowed down some because I am working on the organizing the army cards which is very time consuming. When I am done I will make a video showing the army card section.
Awesome!!!

[HiTech126]

Does anyone know where I can find the color wheel in teekay's avatar?

[HiTech126]

I apologize for double-posting. I am also sorry it has been so long without an update. I finished the army cards section. (It by far took the longest).

Here is a video of it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSnNkE9kHKU

I have two questions for the community's imput.

1. Should and if so how should D&D scape be included.

2. What other features should I add to the app?

[ProtoFury]

I would include DnD, but possibly in its own section.

But, since it is technically MS3, and the DnD waves will be numbered 11 and 12, you could probably just continue and put them in as you woul with any other units.

[Pickledpie]

The only other thing I can think of would be an Army Builder, but you said you couldn't use Battleplan, which is the only army builder that I could think would work very well in this format. Unless, you wanted to make your own, but that would make it take so much longer

[b57123m]

I don't know if this would be possible but it would be cool to have maybe 4 army cards across instead of the giant list and then once you click on a card it zooms in.

[land.scape]

Cards look nice, HiTech!

I think you just add the DnD stuff in with everything else. Maybe you can flag them as being from the DnD collection?

Is the card info in a database? It could be nice if one wanted to search for all tricky personalities, or small height figures, squads with champion bonding, etc. and then click thru the cards that match.

[Ryougabot]

I apologize for double-posting. I am also sorry it has been so long without an update. I finished the army cards section. (It by far took the longest).

Here is a video of it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSnNkE9kHKU

I have two questions for the community's imput.

1. Should and if so how should D&D scape be included.

2. What other features should I add to the app?

The surprisingly tart Heroscape daft wizard (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=102&highlight=tart)

[Chokra Broodslayer]

Any chance of getting a Blackberry version?

[cardshark999]

I love how this is coming along and is going to be great. I also have a small amount of experience with html, I probably won't be able to be of any assistance, and I was wondering if you could give me a link to the program you are using to do this.

[HiTech126]

I love how this is coming along and is going to be great. I also have a small amount of experience with html, I probably won't be able to be of any assistance, and I was wondering if you could give me a link to the program you are using to do this.

I'm actually not using a program to make this yet. I am writing the app in html and when Its done I have a program that I plug the data into and it makes an app.

[land.scape]

The surprisingly tart Heroscape daft wizard (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=102&highlight=tart)

Oh! Didn't know about that one. I notice the link to the version w/o the customs doesn't work, but otherwise that's a nice tool! I'll have to see about editing out the customs I guess.

[Codeman]

Any chance of getting a Blackberry version?

Ditto

[HiTech126]

Well update. I attempted to begin the map section of the app. I downloaded the PDFs of the BOV maps and I attempted to use a PDF image extractor. All the program would extract was the map image. I have now been through three programs all with the same result.

All I can do at this point is put the BOV map images in the app which isnt much use. Does anyone no how to get the instructions another way?

[Pickledpie]

Well update. I attempted to begin the map section of the app. I downloaded the PDFs of the BOV maps and I attempted to use a PDF image extractor. All the program would extract was the map image. I have now been through three programs all with the same result.

All I can do at this point is put the BOV map images in the app which isnt much use. Does anyone no how to get the instructions another way?
What's wrong with just an image of each page?

[ProtoFury]

Well update. I attempted to begin the map section of the app. I downloaded the PDFs of the BOV maps and I attempted to use a PDF image extractor. All the program would extract was the map image. I have now been through three programs all with the same result.

All I can do at this point is put the BOV map images in the app which isnt much use. Does anyone no how to get the instructions another way?
What's wrong with just an image of each page?

I believe he means he can only get the Overview image on the front page. He can't get the pages themelves.

[HiTech126]

Well update. I attempted to begin the map section of the app. I downloaded the PDFs of the BOV maps and I attempted to use a PDF image extractor. All the program would extract was the map image. I have now been through three programs all with the same result.

All I can do at this point is put the BOV map images in the app which isnt much use. Does anyone no how to get the instructions another way?
What's wrong with just an image of each page?

I believe he means he can only get the Overview image on the front page. He can't get the pages themelves.

Proto is correct. Does anyone have a suggestion?

[cardshark999]

Well update. I attempted to begin the map section of the app. I downloaded the PDFs of the BOV maps and I attempted to use a PDF image extractor. All the program would extract was the map image. I have now been through three programs all with the same result.

All I can do at this point is put the BOV map images in the app which isnt much use. Does anyone no how to get the instructions another way?
The easy way is to go to zamzar.com (http://www.zamzar.com/). The site allows you to convert pdf files to bmp, jpg, png, and most other image file types. I'm not sure if this matters but each page in the document is a separate image.

[HiTech126]

The easy way is to go to zamzar.com (http://www.zamzar.com/). The site allows you to convert pdf files to bmp, jpg, png, and most other image file types. I'm not sure if this matters but each page in the document is a separate image.

Thanks +rep. It worked.:D

[nicktheant]

I apologize for double-posting. I am also sorry it has been so long without an update. I finished the army cards section. (It by far took the longest).

Here is a video of it- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSnNkE9kHKU

I have two questions for the community's imput.

1. Should and if so how should D&D scape be included.

2. What other features should I add to the app?

I don't know if you know this or not, but the power rankings have been updated. The old ones were in the video.

[Simpsons Scaper]

:jawdrop:

Looks great!

Some suggestions:
Dice Roller (Been suggested before, but I like it)
Pre Made Armies that work well
Pictures of Sculpts

These I don't know how possible they are:
A custom map creator
Custom Card Creator
Heroscape Tutorial

[cardshark999]

:jawdrop:

Looks great!

Some suggestions:
Dice Roller (Been suggested before, but I like it)
Pre Made Armies that work well
Pictures of Sculpts

These I don't know how possible they are:
A custom map creator
Custom Card Creator
Heroscape Tutorial
Since Tech isn't here I might as well answer. The custom creator stuff is probably out of the question. I'm also not sure what you mean by the tutorial though.

[Simpsons Scaper]

A short visual tutorial on how to play, and maybe something wher you get to take a couple of turns with a character.

[nicktheant]

A short visual tutorial on how to play, and maybe something wher you get to take a couple of turns with a character.

That's a lot for him to put in an iphone app.

[Simpsons Scaper]

That's why I said it probably wouldn't be do-able.

BTW, is this app free?

[HiTech126]

Yes the app will be free.

And no the custom card stuff is to complicated. I will put the rules in but no other type of tutorial.

I got the color wheel. Thank you Tekay.

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/HiTech126/Heroscape%20App/pic2.jpg
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/HiTech126/Heroscape%20App/selectiond1.jpg

Which style do u like better? (You click on the general's symbol to go to his/her cards in the app)

[Bonecrusher]

I prefer the second. Something that needs to be in this is:
Check out Heroscapers.com. It has Custom Units, Strategy Articles, FAQ and much more!

EDIT: People need to rep HiTech more!

[Simpsons Scaper]

The second. I agree with Bonecrusher about the HScapers.com thing.

[HiTech126]

Thanks for the feedback. Where should I put it? I could put it with the credits.

[Velenne]

Rice roller would be the perfect feature. Not sure how tough that would be to code, but I'd use the hell out of that.

[HiTech126]

Rice roller would be the perfect feature. Not sure how tough that would be to code, but I'd use the hell out of that.

Rice Roller? I'm not sure I could code that at all.:lol:

If I can find the source code for one already made I can change the images to make them Heroscape dice, but other then that I don't have the knowledge to make one from scratch.

[Church Monroe]

Rice roller would be the perfect feature. Not sure how tough that would be to code, but I'd use the hell out of that.

Rice Roller? I'm not sure I could code that at all.:lol:

If I can find the source code for one already made I can change the images to make them Heroscape dice, but other then that I don't have the knowledge to make one from scratch.

There is a dice-rolling app... I don't know the name of it, but there is one out there.

[GreenLanturn]

Here (http://dice.motionx.com/) is the dice app I actually have right now. I don't really use it though... it doesn't work for HS.

[Velenne]

That's what I get for posting from my iPhone... Cmon a Rice Rolling app has unlimited potential, man!!

Anyway, I'm not sure that app in the link would work or not. It's cute, we need to be able to tell it to roll up to 12 dice, as well as a D20.

[Khenemutankh]

For a dice rolling application I wonder if you couldn't just code in a random image generation type thing, instanced as many times as the amount of dice you're rolling. I am not much of a programmer but I recall random number generation being very simple, so if you could have it produce an image based on which random number is generated from 1-6 (have one blank, two shields, three skulls) and just repeat this instance as many times as the amount of dice needed, I couldn't see it being too awful complicated.

I wish I had an Iphone so I could try this app out when it's finished!

-Khen.

[HiTech126]

Never mind I found someone.

[lefton4ya]

Hey, I know it's half a self-promotion, but I made a spreadsheet of all the special powers by type (thread (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=28689)& download (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/downloads.php?do=file&id=2040)). One of the reasons I created this was thinking if you programmed special powers into a computer-based game like VirtualScape, instead of hard-coding all the powers, it would be better if you could have some sort of table of powers where you would only have to code for each type, and then as long as there was not a new TYPE of power (which there is a couple in each wave), you would not need to update code, only update the table. I know my spreadsheet is not complete for this task, but it is a start.

As for your app, whatever you decide it to do, it should have a Hersoscape feel - maybe different color themes for each general if your that ambitions. Any work you put in making an iPhone app will be appreciated though.

[b57123m]

Any current updates?

[HiTech126]

No updates as of yet. I've had a lot of stuff I have needed to do lately so it has slid onto the back burner until I receive the dice roller.

[nicktheant]

Will this app cost money? Even if it does, I'll most likely buy it anyway.

[rednax]

Now that I've had my iTouch for little over a month and a half, I'm more eager to get an App than ever.

I don't know much about the iPhone and how to create an App, but would it be possibly for you and Zzzzz to get together and talk about making Virtualscape an App?

If it's not possibly or you just don't feel like it, that's fine. I'm just curious.

[HiTech126]

Sorry guys its been a while. I am still working on the app but have ran into some big problems with it that I am trying to work around. Should be finished fairly soon if I can find a solution.

[Souron]

sounds great

[Pickledpie]

Any updates?

[tcglkn]

First off, I wanna say +rep for all your work. I am very interested in getting such an app. I would even be willing to pay a buck or two for it.

A couple suggestions are:
- Make it possible for future update. You don't have to throw every feature into the first version. Use a marketing strategy like Pocket God or Doodle Jump and update every few weeks with a new feature.
- Make sure the Card images are zoomable. It would stink to have an iPod app, where all the images were too large to read the fonts on.
- Dice rolling should be a fairly simple coding thing, because my friend has just started learning to code and has done that already. Basically just make it choose a number between 1-6 and assign each number a symbol (i.e. 1 blank, 2 shields and 3 skulls) And then make a separate section where it chooses just any number between 1-20. (But I am not really into coding so I don't know how hard that would be.)

[HiTech126]

Ok finally got some news about the app. My life's been really hectic lately but I found some time to work on the app.

Bad News:
Jay Cain was creating the dice roller for me but do to some legal advisement from Mythacle he can not release it to me to use.

Ok this is really bad news and will take a minute to explain. I designed the app I HTML/CSS and used a packager to convert it to Objective-C for me. I was able to create a developer account on apple but when I went to upload the app it said you have to buy a $100 1-year developer's license to publish apps. Even free ones. So I am looking at having someone with a developer's License already upload it for me. I don't have the extra cash to buy one right this minute but I might could soon but I would have to make the app paid if I did. Will upload the app as a website until I can publish it as an app.

Good News:
The app is done
I can upload it as a website for now
It will be a full app soon

[KCU Master 2007]

Well, can we see it on a website?

[tcglkn]

Ok finally got some news about the app. My life's been really hectic lately but I found some time to work on the app.

Bad News:
Jay Cain was creating the dice roller for me but do to some legal advisement from Mythacle he can not release it to me to use.

Ok this is really bad news and will take a minute to explain. I designed the app I HTML/CSS and used a packager to convert it to Objective-C for me. I was able to create a developer account on apple but when I went to upload the app it said you have to buy a $100 1-year developer's license to publish apps. Even free ones. So I am looking at having someone with a developer's License already upload it for me. I don't have the extra cash to buy one right this minute but I might could soon but I would have to make the app paid if I did. Will upload the app as a website until I can publish it as an app.

Good News:
The app is done
I can upload it as a website for now
It will be a full app soon

Good news! I would gladly pay 2-3 dollars to help you recover costs. It seems like a nice app.

Dang it. I need to spread some +rep fast. ;)

[HiTech126]

I will have it on a website soon. Right now I am uploading all the files. Should have the website done before Monday.

[dart48]

SWEET!!!!!:) let us know the ite name the second it is up!(please) thanks for the effort in doing this.

[Pickledpie]

Looking forward to it!

[Grungebob]

Really excited about this one.

[tcglkn]

Really excited about this one.

Now you know its gonna be good! You have G-bob excited.

[Ace Histoli]

Exciting news! Thanks for all your work on this. I would also be happy to pledge a couple bucks to get it on the App Store.
If it does appear in the store, I'd also be happy to pay a dollar or two every time it needs updating with new figures and (hopefully) terrain rules.

Thanks again!

[tcglkn]

Exciting news! Thanks for all your work on this. I would also be happy to pledge a couple bucks to get it on the App Store.
If it does appear in the store, I'd also be happy to pay a dollar or two every time it needs updating with new figures and (hopefully) terrain rules.

Thanks again!

I don't know if I would pay for every update, but I would pay a few bucks if it was kept up to date and not just dropped...

[jwindjackal]

This is very cool, what program are you using to build the app out of curiosity? Can't wait to get an iPod touch so I can use this app.

[Quack188]

I can't wait to see this. I need to break my phone so I can go buy an iPhone. This is basically going to be the best app ever.

[Pickledpie]

I can't wait to see this. I need to break my phone so I can go buy an iPhone. This is basically going to be the best app ever.
Wait till they come out with Verizon for it!

[Bengi]

I'd pay for it if it was on Verizon.

[Robert]

What about Android? Will Android OS be getting any Heroscape love?

Fantastic work by the way...regardless of the platform, good job.

[dart48]

Any news?...

[HiTech126]

After a very long delay... I got the website up! 8)
Go to: http://hsapp.tk/
Check it out!
This is "beta testing" before I release the app iPhone/iPod Touch
Post any, bugs, issues, things you want to see added, things you would like removed, ideas, questions, or comments here.

It's almost 1am here, I stayed up to finish getting it uploaded :D Sorry it has taken so long.:roll:

...Also the questions about Android, I will try to get it to Android eventually but at the moment I can make no promises.

[JairEmia]

After a very long delay... I got the website up! 8)
Go to: http://hsapp.tk/
Check it out!
This is "beta testing" before I release the app iPhone/iPod Touch
Post any, bugs, issues, things you want to see added, things you would like removed, ideas, questions, or comments here.

It's almost 1am here, I stayed up to finish getting it uploaded :D Sorry it has taken so long.:roll:

...Also the questions about Android, I will try to get it to Android eventually but at the moment I can make no promises.

Good stuff, i am very impressed.

I get all my best work done after midnight too.

[tcglkn]

This is great! Thanks.

[rednax]

This is great. Thanks. Just to let you know, if it's not too hard to fix: Probability is misspelled on the front page.

Also, not sure if you're aware of this, but the BoV has gotten two new maps since this was made. If you want to (although you in no way are obliged to), you could add those maps, if it wouldn't be too much work.

Thanks again.

[nicktheant]

Isn't Vydar allied with Jandar now? Because on the wheel it says Vydar is allied with Utgar.

[Pickledpie]

WOOHOOO!!!! We're this much closer to the app being available!
A few notes:

Agent Skahen is in there twice.

The Allies seemed a little messed up. I thought it was everybody on Utgar, but this says Einar and Jandar vs Ullar and Aquilla vs Utgar and Vydar. :shrug:

The Dumutef Guard isn't in the correct alphabetical order.

Any reason the Fortress Door is with Jandar?

On the maps, it would be advantageous to put the requirements somewhere where you don't have to load each map to see them - prehaps in the title?

Overall, AWESOME! So excited for this to debut.

[HiTech126]

Thanks for all the great feedback guys. I fixed the mistakes you pointed out. I will add the sets in the title shortly. I put the fortress door with Jandar until I have a better place for it.

Let me know about any features you want added.

Also the map was made a while ago by teekay who let me use it. I will edit out the allied part if it is really bugging anyone.

[tcglkn]

If you could learn how to code a d20 dice roller that would be cool. But I understand if that is too much.

[HiTech126]

I have a buddy who does some Java coding and such who is home for the summer from college, I will see if he can help me with it.

[tcglkn]

I have a buddy who does some Java coding and such who is home for the summer from college, I will see if he can help me with it.

Cause that would make the app really handy.

[Pickledpie]

The only thing I could think of adding would be seperate sections for DnD and Marvel. But, for the initial release, just Classic is fine. I would be much happier with an earlier release date and Marvel and DnD as updates, than a release date pushed back by a few weeks but containing everything.

Another thing that would be cool would be a link to this site, however you would probably need truth's permission for that.

EDIT: I just hought of something else. Maybe an option to organize each card by price?

[HiTech126]

I was thinking of adding a "useful sites" section, I can't imagine why truth would have a problem with free advertising, though I'll make sure to ask first.
Since D&D scape is classic scape as I understand it I was just going to mix that in with the rest. I don't have plans for marvel scape but if it is badly wanted I will add it later on.

[lefton4ya]

If you can put Shockwave objects on the site/app, add Deadmaxx's Heroscape Battle Dice Rolling program (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/downloads.php?do=file&id=2366). I just made it a SWF object from the windows executable.

Note: You probably should ask Deadmaxx (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/member.php?u=4365) for permission first though, but he hasn't been on in awhile.

[HiTech126]

Dice roller is now added! Thanks you lefton4ya and Deadmaxx when I get permission.

[nicktheant]

Dice roller is now added! Thanks you lefton4ya and Deadmaxx when I get permission.
Wow, awesome!

[HiTech126]

Update.... Just tried it on my iPod Touch. No go. It won't load.:(

[tcglkn]

I like the dice roller. I really like the sortablity of Battleplan (http://battleplan.mythacle.com/heroscape/). Maybe instead of card images, have text with increased sortablity.

[Schulzy]

I'm very impressed. It seems like it could use a bit more polish, but I would certainly throw a few bucks your way for this once it becomes available.

[ranoobu]

After a very long delay... I got the website up! 8)
Go to: http://hsapp.tk/
Check it out!
This is "beta testing" before I release the app iPhone/iPod Touch
Post any, bugs, issues, things you want to see added, things you would like removed, ideas, questions, or comments here.

It's almost 1am here, I stayed up to finish getting it uploaded :D Sorry it has taken so long.:roll:

...Also the questions about Android, I will try to get it to Android eventually but at the moment I can make no promises.

Hey HiTech,

You might want to add this to your first post or in your signature because it'll probably get buried :)

[Raudulfr Shieldcrusher]

Nice work HiTech! It runs a little slow on my Mac running Safari. But the included info is really cool. Love the dice roller.

[nicktheant]

Update.... Just tried it on my iPod Touch. No go. It won't load.:(

The entire thing, or the dice roller?

[Pickledpie]

Update.... Just tried it on my iPod Touch. No go. It won't load.:(

The entire thing, or the dice roller?
Well, I tried using Safari on my iPod and accessing it that way, and it worked fine. So it is probably the roller, I haven't tried it with that yet.

[HiTech126]

yea the roller dosnt work on iphone/ipod touch. and thanks Raudulfr

[Ace Histoli]

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
Big thanks for making this!

Can't wait to be able to download it from the App Store, and I would be happy to pay a few bucks for it (unless that would set WotC's legal team on your trail).

[HiTech126]

Okay added a link in my Signature and on the first page. If you have any more ideas let me hear them.

[tcglkn]

Okay added a link in my Signature and on the first page. If you have any more ideas let me hear them.

Adding the Customizing Compendium (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=30540) would be cool.

[HiTech126]

I will ask him for permission.

[Scapemage]

This is great! I tried it, I would py some money on the AppStore (no more than $1.99) for this!


EDIT: I love ho you put the maps right on there! Thanks! This NEEDS to be in the AppStore!

[Elven Lord]

I really don't know. I still support leaving the game one of miniatures because otherwise tourneys would be online all the time. Scapers would not be able to visit with each other and learn from more experienced scapers eye to eye. Also y'all know how it is with game companies. They'll make it super complex and fewer people will be able to enjoy it.

[Pickledpie]

I really don't know. I still support leaving the game one of miniatures because otherwise tourneys would be online all the time. Scapers would not be able to visit with each other and learn from more experienced scapers eye to eye. Also y'all know how it is with game companies. They'll make it super complex and fewer people will be able to enjoy it.
He's not making a game... :|

[Anthasu1]

I really don't know. I still support leaving the game one of miniatures because otherwise tourneys would be online all the time. Scapers would not be able to visit with each other and learn from more experienced scapers eye to eye. Also y'all know how it is with game companies. They'll make it super complex and fewer people will be able to enjoy it.

You may want to try reading the thread a bit farther back before commenting. :rolleyes:

It's a resource. As in Stats and Maps.

And to make this post worthwhile, I will say that i like it. It seems very well done and it will definitely make it to my iTouch.

[HiTech126]

Okay I should be able to get my developer's License soon. What would everyone like to see as the icon for the app?

[tcglkn]

Okay I should be able to get my developer's License soon. What would everyone like to see as the icon for the app?

How about a hex tile?

[Pickledpie]

Great news!

I would say something like this for the icon:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/6/1/6/4/valkyrie_crest.gif

or

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/gallery/files/4/0/2/1/avatar.gif

Without the movement. Both of them I pulled off this site in the gallery.

I think I like the first one more.

[rednax]

How about the Heroscape logo?

[tcglkn]

How about the Heroscape logo?

Copyright...

[lefton4ya]

Speaking of copyright, is the idea of SELLING an app that has heroscape rules, images, gameplay legal? Sorry for reopening up a can of worms that never got sifted through fully. As far as I am aware, VirtuualScape was the only "heroscape" software that was for sale at any time and I am not sure if they ever got slack from hasbro for it but would hate to see this app be released only to have HiTech get legal ramifications from it and it be taken down. Although, truth has the potential to make money from this site's advertisers and there are thousands of copyright violations in the gallery on this site, so I dunno...

[HiTech126]

I could be wrong, but what I think is that they would be fine with the selling of this app because all it could do is promote the buying of Heroscape. Now if I was creating an online version of the Heroscape game they might have some problems because that would discourage people from buying the game because they could play it online and save money by not buying it.

[AgentCarr]

I would love it if heroscape dice could be rolled in a chat room and displayed to both parties so I could play a match online with somebody when mrs. agentcarr is at work and all of my friends are busy. I agree with others that I wouldn't want the game to shift solely online, but I wish those purists would understand my dilemma when I'm actually off work but can not get a game in solely for lack of another player.

[tcglkn]

I would love it if heroscape dice could be rolled in a chat room and displayed to both parties so I could play a match online with somebody when mrs. agentcarr is at work and all of my friends are busy. I agree with others that I wouldn't want the game to shift solely online, but I wish those purists would understand my dilemma when I'm actually off work but can not get a game in solely for lack of another player.

The problem with an online version of scape is that then no one would buy the figures. Why buy figures when you have a computer game that has all the same figures? The game would naturally shift to all online.

[Pickledpie]

Speaking of copyright, is the idea of SELLING an app that has heroscape rules, images, gameplay legal?
Well, if it is a free app, I couldn't see a problem. However if there was a price on it, then I could see how that could be a problem.

[tcglkn]

Speaking of copyright, is the idea of SELLING an app that has heroscape rules, images, gameplay legal?
Well, if it is a free app, I couldn't see a problem. However if there was a price on it, then I could see how that could be a problem.

Just make sure you put the legal copyright info for Heroscape in you app.

[HiTech126]

I have both good news and bad news.
The bad news is that my Hackintosh computer is no longer working. This means that I cannot publish it to the app store.

The good news is that the app is in Beta stage. It is packaged and working, but a bit slow. Unfortunately you can only use it if your iDevice is Jailbroken.
Since jailbreaking is now officially legal I would recommend anyone who is not Jailbroken should be. If you need help I have done it many times.

Anyways back to the app. The app is in Beta Phase, a bit slow and has a few issues. Once you have the app, drag it into the apps section of iTunes and sync. I will have a video showing it off soon.

If you would like to try the app out, PM me. I will give you the download link. Please let me know about any problems or features you would like added here.

[Chardar]

I'm not sure what the process involves, so I'm not sure if this would be viable. Could you put the app in Cydia? That would make it even easier to get.

[aquamaniac27]

Awesome! Makes me want an iPhone even more! +rep!

EDIT: Sucks.... oh well. Make the best out of it!

[HiTech126]

I might could put it in Cydia. It's simple to install.

Heres the tutorial video
(http://tinypic.com/r/2li8sg7/4)

[HiTech126]

Tutorial video now up^^
(sorry for the double post)

[S1R_ART0R1US]

Nice work!

[Chrischappel24]

an Iphone app would be pretty awsome dude

[HiTech126]

an Iphone app would be pretty awsome dude

It's finished. If you would like to try it and your iPhone is jailbroken, PM me.

[Scapemage]

an Iphone app would be pretty awsome dude

It's finished. If you would like to try it and your iPhone is jailbroken, PM me.
What does jailbroken mean?

[dart48]

Jailbreaking is pretty much bypassing the sofftware to alow more freedom. Ipods software is very restricting. I still need to jailbreak mine. Just google it and you will get the stuff needed to jailbreak it.

[HiTech126]

If you have never jailbroken before, go to www.jailbreakme.com on your iDevice and slide the slider and it will jailbreak for you. This is the simplest and easiest way.

[nicktheant]

If you have never jailbroken before, go to www.jailbreakme.com (http://www.jailbreakme.com) on your iDevice and slide the slider and it will jailbreak for you. This is the simplest and easiest way.


Yep that's what I did.

It works on everything but 4.0.2 Firmware so you might have to downgrade back to 4.0.


Anyway great app!

Suggestions:

A way to navigate back to home screen of the app after clicking on one of the pages.

It also appears that some of images are cut of on the sides (Maybe 2/5 of the image) and that some images are to large read so a zoom function would be greatly appreciated.

Fantastic App so far, thanks for all the work you put into this HiTech!

[HiTech126]

What I have found interesting is that it seems like most of the people who asked for the app have only became interested in it recently, and the people who were interested in it from the beginning haven't asked for it.

[nicktheant]

What I have found interesting is that it seems like most of the people who asked for the app have only became interested in it recently, and the people who were interested in it from the beginning haven't asked for it.

Meh, Ive been lurking in this thread since the beginning.

By the way, I sent the link to a few freinds who have jailbroken ipods; so far they love it!

We've been using the maps section a lot, its great looking up a pre made map on your ipod instead of printing one out from you comp.:)

[Quack188]

I'd ask for it but I don't have an iPhone yet. When I get one this will definately be the first app I get. Good job by the way.

[Dragonmaster384]

Just sent a PM, this looks like something I'd love to have on my iPhone! :D

[Pickledpie]

I would definitely get this but my iPod isn't jailbroken, and I don't want to take all the time to jailbreak it and get everything that I already have reset after jailbreaking.

[nicktheant]

I would definitely get this but my iPod isn't jailbroken, and I don't want to take all the time to jailbreak it and get everything that I already have reset after jailbreaking.

Go to jailbreakme.com on your ipod.

Slide the bar that reads "slide to jailbreak"

Give it about 5 minutes.

Your ipod will be jailbroken, and you will keep all of your apps/music/ect

[Pickledpie]

I would definitely get this but my iPod isn't jailbroken, and I don't want to take all the time to jailbreak it and get everything that I already have reset after jailbreaking.

Go to jailbreakme.com on your ipod.

Slide the bar that reads "slide to jailbreak"

Give it about 5 minutes.

Your ipod will be jailbroken, and you will keep all of your apps/music/ect

Oh ok, thanks. I thought that I would have to mess around with settings and such.

[Dragonmaster384]

Yeah, the current jailbreak is dead easy, and doesn't require any messing around with stuff. It won't work if you updated to 4.0.2 though, you need to have 4.0.1 or earlier.

[Pickledpie]

Yeah, the current jailbreak is dead easy, and doesn't require any messing around with stuff. It won't work if you updated to 4.0.2 though, you need to have 4.0.1 or earlier.
Oh, darn again. I just got 4.0.2 yesterday.

[HiTech126]

Firmware downloads (http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/)

[nicktheant]

Firmware downloads (http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/)
He would have to restore his ipod though. Allthough it wouldn't take to long to do that I don't know if it's ideal.

[nicktheant]

Firmware downloads (http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/)
You would have to restore your ipod though, it wouldn't be hard reuploading all of his things but it isn't ideal.

[HiTech126]

Thats true. He could just wait for 4.1 I suppose. They should release a jailbreak for 4.1

[Pickledpie]

That's true. He could just wait for 4.1 I suppose. They should release a jailbreak for 4.1
That's probably what I'll do, or just wait untill it becomes an official app.

[HiTech126]

There is a good chance of it becoming an offical app soon but I won't say more until I know for sure.

I am removing the Heroscape logo at the top of every page and replacing it with a better one. Any suggestions on what I should use?

[Pickledpie]

There is a good chance of it becoming an offical app soon but I won't say more until I know for sure.

I am removing the Heroscape logo at the top of every page and replacing it with a better one. Any suggestions on what I should use?
A hex I guess, but why do you have to remove it? Copyright?

[HiTech126]

No not the official logo, the one at the top of every page that says heroscape. It's animated and slows the app down quite a bit.

[tcglkn]

How about a contest and a poll? Maybe get some of the big graphic designers like h3xtrip.

[freddywerks]

Assuming this is still the updated app: http://hsapp.tk/

This is going to sound harsh, so I apologize ahead of time. But I feel that instead of being nice, being honest is the best way to give feedback on something like this.

Between the animated gif logo, not using a legible type on the cards (or even just a type based version of the cards), and just porting in scans of the rulebook, this thing looks poor. Being a web designer, often times, I find that the trouble with just having programmers build apps is that the user isn't taken into consideration; instead it's built only to be purely functional. The problem with only making it functional instead of making it stellar is the same as a chef only making edible food. Yep you can eat it, but you're not going to enjoy it.

My suggestions:
1. Make it a free app (should be anyways since it doesn't do anything outside of providing you with information that you can find on this website in addition to a dice roller).

2. Then add in the actual heroscape logos/branding with a disclaimer.

3. Bring in the rules booklets with OCR, then convert to text. I'd rather scroll through text than huge images.

4. Bring in images of the actual cards, but also provide a text only version. Like above, but give people options.

Future release ideas (which might make you charge money for it, which would make you get rid of #2):
1. Have it so that you can plug in your collection and build your own maps. :)

2. Team building option so that you can plug in a point value and try to create your custom team. Would be even more awesome if it was built so that you can build your army, then just slide left and right through your cards and place markers on them to eliminate the need for cards. :)

Just my two cents as I feel that a Heroscape app would be an awesome venture for the community.