Hasbro "Official" Map of Valhalla!!!

[Sweetcurse]

Awesome is all I have to say. Now we can have campaign style games.

[hextr1p]

For those unaware, Sweetcurse is referring to the new article on the main page of 'Scapers:

http://www.heroscapers.com/

The actual map can be found over at .COM by clicking the thumbnail below...

http://www.hasbro.com/common/downloads/wallpapers/wp_heroscape182.jpg (http://www.hasbro.com/heroscape/default.cfm?page=wallpaper)

It's delicious.

[Sweetcurse]

I'd been thinking about having a game like that where you can take parts of the map over, a la Risk.

[netherspirit]

That is very freaking cool!

[Jormi_Boced]

That is sweet. Maybe they will have some bios up soon too (cross my fingers, rub my rabbits foot, blow out my b-day candles).

[allskulls]

Hmmm...should we expect more journal entries also?

Annerios- Add this official piece to the unofficial guide!

[markwars]

I am going to print this as a huge 60"x84" map right now. :D

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Wow. Just wow. Now that is a step in the right direction with the bios and background information of Valhalla!!!
Looooove the battlefield locations! Nice find whoever discovered the map!
Think we'll see a battle in Haukeland someday?

Crumland's shape looks like Mexico.

And the Southeast territories...unexplored? Somebody get the Kyries of Lewis and Clark out there

[GaryLASQ]

hmm, Haukeland looks like a long boat trip from the mainland. maybe we'll see boats and pirates afterall...

[markwars]

BTW, Utgar looks frickin' sweet! :drool:

[boom]

This reminds me of Gamesworkshop, for some reason. Other that that horrible thought, I think its pretty cool.

[MementoMori]

Does it say Thaelink tundra? And Haukeland is far in the map, as Volcarren and Tundra, new terrain awaiting? And even more. What hide those unnamed lands to the east?

[GaryLASQ]

ha. a spelling error on the map :)

yep, it should be Thaelenk, not Thaelink.

btw, Thaelenk is an anagram for Kathleen.

[markwars]

The first print is still coming out of the plotter but it looks pretty nice. I need someone like IMax to clean it up for large prints though....or maybe CupidsArt?

[Thingemon]

do we kno which parts of the land belong to whom?
i think nostraland is jandar... iunno tho.

[dickflea]

Whao!! cool finally we get to "see" valhalla

[Malechi]

It also lists Nastralund instead of Nostralund. Jeez, you think the illustrator and/or editor could have at least checked the packages for the correct spellings ... Of course, that is how Thormun spelled it also ...

[Finrod]

That's awesome. More flavor for the fan-fic, at the very least.
"Thaelink" isn't the only misspelling. They use "it's" instead of "its" in the upper text about the castle. sigh...

Can I apply for the job of Hasbro's proofreader?

[hextr1p]

I need someone like IMax to clean it up for large prints though....or maybe CupidsArt?
For large prints, cleaning up this image would be a crazy task. The compression noise throughout the image is pretty awful. And to increase the image size, both in dimension and resolution, would make the image so blurry, that which is close to unreadable now would be COMPLETELY unreadable. One would be better off remaking the map from scratch, rather than to attempt to make these wallpaper sized images printworthy.

[GaryLASQ]

It also lists Nastralund instead of Nostralund. Jeez, you think the illustrator and/or editor could have at least checked the packages for the correct spellings ...
actually, the booster pack from wave 3 says "Heroes of Nostralund". but any other time it is referenced on battlefield background text it is spelled Nastralund. the description for Forsaken Waters and Wolf Swamp Road both say it with an "a".

[Nooblar]

Just think of it as an evolution of the language. For example, in Olde English, "the King" used to be "se cyeuning" or something that sounds like that. Pretty big jump, anyway. I wouldn't criticize them too much. It wasn't until the past 300 years or so that we finally standardized many spellings of English words.

[headcold]

Looks like we'll be seeing some swamp expansions too. A few swamp locations are listed in the top right. Did they mention at Gen Con that there's going to be undead coming out before too long? I thought I saw some pics but I'm too lazy now to find them again.

[thehandofzarquon]

Looks like we'll be seeing some swamp expansions too. A few swamp locations are listed in the top right. Did they mention at Gen Con that there's going to be undead coming out before too long? I thought I saw some pics but I'm too lazy now to find them again.Before too long? There already is an Undead unit: Sudema :P

But yes, there are Zombie/Ghoul'ish figures and Ghosts/Spectres/Wraiths/Whatever figures too.

As for Swamp Terrain... I hope it's just a lot of Terrain Features, rather than terrain pieces... Like... trees, vines, bushes, etc instead of "swamp" tiles :P

Snarky comments and hopes for swamps aside, it's pretty cool that they released the map of Valhalla. Now if we could just get some more background on some of the completely missing characters... like Thora and Mallidon. Not to mention some general background on each race/culture... *sighs*

[kenjib]

It looks like several placenames from the various expansion names are used, but not Trollsford and Barrenspur. I wonder why.

[Annerios]

Hmmm...should we expect more journal entries also?

Annerios- Add this official piece to the unofficial guide!

I'll be studying the map closely and making many new entries into the Guide.

I hope we get new Journal pages. A large chunk of information about Valhalla was contained in the brief Journal.

[Malechi]

It looks like several placenames from the various expansion names are used, but not Trollsford and Barrenspur. I wonder why.

They are listed. Check the upper right hand locations legend "Battles of the Great War"!

[markwars]

I need someone like IMax to clean it up for large prints though....or maybe CupidsArt?
For large prints, cleaning up this image would be a crazy task. The compression noise throughout the image is pretty awful. And to increase the image size, both in dimension and resolution, would make the image so blurry, that which is close to unreadable now would be COMPLETELY unreadable. One would be better off remaking the map from scratch, rather than to attempt to make these wallpaper sized images printworthy.

I've got one print done that is 28"x40". The images and map itself aren't bad at this size. The text is what the real problem is. If I was good at photoshop I would simply sharpen up that text and go with it. Looking at it from across the room at this size is great. I'm going to go ahead with a 56"x80" size and see what that does to the map and illustrations. The text of course will be even worse. Surely there is a way to get rid of the old text manually and place some sharper text in its place. What's your assessment CA?

[CornPuff]

Oooh, I just posted this in the 'Dream software' thread, but this has me itching to make a map repository program, that allows people to tag their maps to the map of valhalla!

You have a kickin volcano map, Add its pushpin to Volcarren.

you have an awesome pirates cove map? stick it to that island.

You looking for a sweet Ice map? start browsing the pushpins in the tundra.

I'm very interested in getting a cleaned up big version, so people could zoom in and brows the map up close .. very cool

[kenjib]

It looks like several placenames from the various expansion names are used, but not Trollsford and Barrenspur. I wonder why.

They are listed. Check the upper right hand locations legend "Battles of the Great War"!

Oh cool. I see Trollsford Swamp now. It's really hard to read though. Which number is Barrenspur? I don't see it.

[kenjib]

I'd been thinking about having a game like that where you can take parts of the map over, a la Risk.

I started with a basic outline of how something like this could work:

http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=2560

Is that similar to what you were thinking?

[Malechi]

Sharpen does not work, first thing I did. As hextr1p mentioned the compression noise is just too great and sharpen actually worsens it. I have tried unsuccessfully to Smart Blur/Sharpen but it helps only minorly. The best idea is to actually replace the text, now I am off to find the correct font(s).

[happyjosiah]

How about they just actually post a hi-res version?!?!!?! CRIMENY-O!
This practically ruins all the excitement!

[Lakai]

Oooh, I just posted this in the 'Dream software' thread, but this has me itching to make a map repository program, that allows people to tag their maps to the map of valhalla!

You have a kickin volcano map, Add its pushpin to Volcarren.

you have an awesome pirates cove map? stick it to that island.

You looking for a sweet Ice map? start browsing the pushpins in the tundra.

I'm very interested in getting a cleaned up big version, so people could zoom in and brows the map up close .. very cool

This sounds really cool, would really like to see this come to be. Good luck to you.
Also that map looks great, good find!

[happyjosiah]

Think we could send them an email pretty please asking for a hi-res version? Even if they just send us the FILE we can host it here if they are worried about bandwith or something...

[Thingemon]

true dat

[hextr1p]

Sharpen does not work, first thing I did. As hextr1p mentioned the compression noise is just too great and sharpen actually worsens it. I have tried unsuccessfully to Smart Blur/Sharpen but it helps only minorly. The best idea is to actually replace the text, now I am off to find the correct font(s).

Okay, here is what I did:

• Auto adjust levels: this does WONDERS for the contrast and colors. Generally, you're to stay away from the 'auto' features, but in this case, it turns out.

• I then manually adjusted the levels to help bring the black out more, as well as some of the burned or worn tones and textures, while still keeping the legibility of the map intact.

• Bumped up the image size to 80" x 64" and the res to 150. I tried to make it 300dpi, but that would have pushed the file size to over a gig!

• Smart blur: Radius=15, Threshold=20, Quality=Medium, Mode=Normal. This helps a little bit with the enlarged compression noise. However, the smaller text is still very close to unreadable. With this file, there is nothing you can do about that except replace the text manually, first clearing the area with the clone stamp or healing brush.

This image is smaller, of course, but you can see the visual changes regardless...

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10027/hexmapalter.jpg

The official map is REALLY muted. I can honestly say I like the map a LOT better after my adjustments. Heh...

[CornPuff]

Wow. That looks awesome. It looks so much more dynamic than the Hasbro edition.

Its a 750x599 image, but I can understand why you shrunk it down.

I still say that we campaign Hasbro:Heroscape for the raw image before they filtered and sized it for the desktop!

[Malechi]

The majority of the text is done in a font called Pelican (this is the same font used in Thormun's Journal). Some of the capitalized words are a different font.

• Bumped up the image size to 80" x 64" and the res to 150. I tried to make it 300dpi, but that would have pushed the file size to over a gig!

Why exactly did you make the map 6'-8" x 5'-2"? Do you plan to actually print it that size???

[dickflea]

Anyone notice the island (top right)......does that mean we are going to get boats &/or aquatic characters in the near future? :lol:


Oh!!!! also forgot to mention the possible Utgar drawing in the bottom left.....any ideas???

[Uprising]

Bout time. This is awsome. It's now my backround.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Okay, here is what I did:



http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10027/hexmapalter.jpg

The official map is REALLY muted. I can honestly say I like the map a LOT better after my adjustments. Heh...

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:

[noodles]

Using this map, you can figure out what the hero expansion packs will be named after in the future.

[-Zim-]

Okay, here is what I did:



http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10027/hexmapalter.jpg

The official map is REALLY muted. I can honestly say I like the map a LOT better after my adjustments. Heh...

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:


It was those darn Orcs folding it >.<

[Avenger]

or the Romans...

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:


It was those darn Orcs folding it >.<

Ah yes, Orc-agmi - the ancient art of folding paper really really badly!

[netherspirit]

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:


It was those darn Orcs folding it >.<

Ah yes, Orc-agmi - the ancient art of folding paper!

Isn't that the art of folding Orcs? Very messy...

[Malechi]

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:


It was those darn Orcs folding it >.<

Ah yes, Orc-agmi - the ancient art of folding paper!

Isn't that the art of folding Orcs? Very messy...

I tried that once, it took weeks to get the green off my fingers, so be sure to wear gloves ... preferably steel plated leather reinforced gloves.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:


It was those darn Orcs folding it >.<

Ah yes, Orc-agmi - the ancient art of folding paper!

Isn't that the art of folding Orcs? Very messy...

Truly, I laughed out loud reading this! The image of an orc pinned on the ground on his tummy by Krug, and the Troll folding its arms back.
SNAP. CRACK(le) POP!

[Chimpy]

What is in that southern area? A secret layer for a new general? :pray:
-sigh- It is probably just a bunch of unhabitable jungle.

I noticed two other intersting things about this map:

1. There is no south pole. That means this is just the northern hemisphere. (It might even be just one quarter of vahalla.) There is enough room for several more continents to fit in Valhalla.

2. Not only are boats needed to get to haukeland, they are neede to get to the tundra too! That means Jandar already has boats that can transport troops artic seas. Longboats anyone? Craig already mentioned this as the boats they will most likely make, in the interview with Buddy Lee. I can definatly see these coming in the future. (Maybe with some dregull warriors too. ) :D

[kenjib]

Looks wonderful H3x! Just wish the denizens of Valhalla would ROLL their parchment rather than fold it - look at those creases! :evil:

Yeah, and since they obviously have access to a full range of technology levels it's not like they can't get access to a frickin' laminator! Sheesh!

[Rhydderch]

2. Not only are boats needed to get to haukeland, they are neede to get to the tundra too! That means Jandar already has boats that can transport troops artic seas.

Or maybe Jandar asked Ullar very very nicely if he could borrow Theracus and Saylind for a year to transport his non-fliers across the water =P

[Grungebob]

I'm loving the new map... Especially the area off the coast of North West Crumland!! :gb:

[Malechi]

What is a Valkryie General?

VALHALLA
Land of a million worlds.
A gathering of many cultures,
brought here to do battle for the fate
of the wellsprings and their Valkryie Generals.

Emphasis is mine ...

[jdtenor]

Pirates, Roman Currach, Greek Bireme, Viking longships & whatever Marro, Kyrie's, Soulburgs vessls they use it will be intresting?

[Jim]

Could someone please upload the large size map to a site other than Hasbro (even if only for a little while)? I'm at work, where we have nice color printerrs, and I can't go to the Hasbro site because it is blocked (due to content being "Games.")

Thanks!

Jim

[DarkSpade]

Is there a larger version of the pic anywhere? I can't read any of it.

[ninthdoc]

I wanted to throw out a huge thanks to markwars. The map he printed on his plotter, he graciously gave to me. This thing is massive. I don't even know the dimensions right off the top of my head. It looks mega cool. Now to preserve it and put it up.

Thanks, markwars, you rock!

:twisted:

[funrun]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool:

Can anyone tell what the tiny text quotes on it say?

[Kepler]

Behold the Fortress of the Archkyrie.
The mighty Citadel of Jandar.
May it's mighty wells forever protect
the just from the vile armies of Utgar.


I can't tell what Jandar says.

[Annerios]

“Land of a million worlds. A gathering of many cultures, brought here to do battle for the fate of the wellsprings and the Valkyrie generals.”

"I vow to bring this Valkyrie to justice! The hand of righteousness forged through honor demands his capture and punishment!"

[Kepler]

Okay, who is going to be the first to create a map of Jandar's castle?

[bluekitsune13]

I'm very happy indeed that we finally have a map to compare stories too. And they even jotted down each of the official maps' locations too. How sweet.

[ninthdoc]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool:

Can anyone tell what the tiny text quotes on it say?

Okay, I got my map last night. I played a long modified version of Heroscape on my Mega Owner Map. I got buzzed and went to sleep. Then I've been busy this morning. I thought of you, but figured you'd already know.

Sorry. :oops:

[hextr1p]

Malechi, regarding the HUGE dimensions I originally set the map at... uh... I took markwars' original statement that he was going to print the map at 60" x 84" seriously... :roll:

FunRun, sorry about that! I actually intended to PM you about the map when I got home last night. But I wasn't able to get to my computer, as my wife and I went out.

[Annerios]

I'm very happy indeed that we finally have a map to compare stories too. And they even jotted down each of the official maps' locations too. How sweet.

Plus they can update the map with numbers for more battle locations as new official maps are released.

[countblah]

What's with that weird looking island off the coast of crumland?

[netherspirit]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool:

Can anyone tell what the tiny text quotes on it say?

Hey Funrun, theres a map of Valhalla.

[markwars]

Malechi, regarding the HUGE dimensions I originally set the map at... uh... I took markwars' original statement that he was going to print the map at 60" x 84" seriously...

Umm...I am serious about that. The dimensions that I used for the maps that I gave to ninthdoc and my son were 28x40. If you double that it's 56x80. My plotter handles prints up to 60" so it's entirely possible.

If someone can get me a cleaned up image that will work at that size I will send you a print of it at my expense. Seriously.

[markwars]

I wanted to throw out a huge thanks to markwars. The map he printed on his plotter, he graciously gave to me. This thing is massive. I don't even know the dimensions right off the top of my head. It looks mega cool. Now to preserve it and put it up.

Thanks, markwars, you rock!

:twisted:

You are certainly welcome ninthdoc. :toast: It's the least I could do. You are such an awesome gamer/person/friend that I wanted to give you something that would get your geek on. ;)

[Annerios]

What's with that weird looking island off the coast of crumland?

The one between Jutanguard and Crumland?

There is some text there, but I can't read it. It says Bay of ? or Sea of ? next to the island.

The text south of Anund that is barely readable is the "Molten Sea" mentioned in the Lava set text.

[funrun]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool:

Can anyone tell what the tiny text quotes on it say?

Okay, I got my map last night. I played a long modified version of Heroscape on my Mega Owner Map. I got buzzed and went to sleep. Then I've been busy this morning. I thought of you, but figured you'd already know.

Sorry. :oops:Last night?!?!?! You just incriminated someone else! :P

[markwars]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool:

Can anyone tell what the tiny text quotes on it say?

Okay, I got my map last night. I played a long modified version of Heroscape on my Mega Owner Map. I got buzzed and went to sleep. Then I've been busy this morning. I thought of you, but figured you'd already know.

Sorry. :oops:Last night?!?!?! You just incriminated someone else! :P

It was me!

[runs out crying]

[funrun]

Okay, make that two others!

[hextr1p]

If someone can get me a cleaned up image that will work at that size I will send you a print of it at my expense. Seriously.
Let me see what I can do this evening. I'm at work right now, and can't get to anything else.

However, as I mentioned earlier, a map of that size set at 300dpi runs LARGE in file size. I could clean up the map and then send you a CD with the file. How does that sound?

[markwars]

If someone can get me a cleaned up image that will work at that size I will send you a print of it at my expense. Seriously.
Let me see what I can do this evening. I'm at work right now, and can't get to anything else.

However, as I mentioned earlier, a map of that size set at 300dpi runs LARGE in file size. I could clean up the map and then send you a CD with the file. How does that sound?

Awesome. That way I'll have your address to send you a giant copy of it. :)

[hextr1p]

Awesome. That way I'll have your address to send you a giant copy of it. :)
Very cool.

However, I do have to put a disclaimer out there. As I mentioned before, I can only do so much to this map to make it print worthy. Especially at the size you're looking for. The image was already highly compressed in its JPEG format, so the details will be really blurry. As I mentioned, I'll clean up the text as best I can. But don't be expecting clean lines and pristine detail in other areas of the map.

Just so you're aware...

[markwars]

I'm not anal about stuff like that. Artists are, and I'm no artist. ;)

At the very least a cleaned up image printed at half that size should look very good. And 28x40 is still pretty big.

[ninthdoc]

markwars, How big was the one you gave me last night?

funrun, there are more still that you don't know of... :stir:

[markwars]

markwars, How big was the one you gave me last night?

:quarter:

28x40

[CupidsArt]

Awesome. That way I'll have your address to send you a giant copy of it. :)
Very cool.

However, I do have to put a disclaimer out there. As I mentioned before, I can only do so much to this map to make it print worthy. Especially at the size you're looking for. The image was already highly compressed in its JPEG format, so the details will be really blurry. As I mentioned, I'll clean up the text as best I can. But don't be expecting clean lines and pristine detail in other areas of the map.

Just so you're aware...

You may be able to get away with resetting the type and photoshopping the old type out. If you'd like I could give you a hand, I think making a higher res file would be a great thing for the site. Besides I was planning on working this out for larger scale anyway to put on my game table, :)

It also looks like she used a Zaph style font for all of the type and if that's true matching fonts wouldn't be that hard at all.

[justncaseur1-2]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

[reapersaurus]

OMG A MAP A MAP!! FINALLY!

I am disappointed in everyone who knows me personally and didn't tell me about this the moment they found out. :evil:

It's gorgeous! :drool::lol:
I was wondering when you'd be commenting, and what you'd be commenting.

[allskulls]

Awesome. That way I'll have your address to send you a giant copy of it. :)
Very cool.

However, I do have to put a disclaimer out there. As I mentioned before, I can only do so much to this map to make it print worthy. Especially at the size you're looking for. The image was already highly compressed in its JPEG format, so the details will be really blurry. As I mentioned, I'll clean up the text as best I can. But don't be expecting clean lines and pristine detail in other areas of the map.

Just so you're aware...

You may be able to get away with resetting the type and photoshopping the old type out. If you'd like I could give you a hand, I think making a higher res file would be a great thing for the site. Besides I was planning on working this out for larger scale anyway to put on my game table, :)

It also looks like she used a Zaph style font for all of the type and if that's true matching fonts wouldn't be that hard at all.
I look forward to seeing this done :D

Would'nt it be cool if they made separate maps for each region for more detail?

[markwars]

I can tell you this allskulls, the map looks awesome when you hang it up at half size (28x40).

And there are software programs out there that will let you get detailed maps of regions of a larger map - in fact I work with one every day for a living. The problem lies in the fact that there is no "real" detail to get. I suppose I could make a map that would feature all of the outlines of the land masses, but printed on a white sheet of paper that wouldn't look very good.

I suspect that either Hasbro or one of our resident artists will have to supply us with that. Perhaps we will finally get to see some of the other generals that way.

[CupidsArt]

I can tell you this allskulls, the map looks awesome when you hang it up at half size (28x40).

And there are software programs out there that will let you get detailed maps of regions of a larger map - in fact I work with one every day for a living. The problem lies in the fact that there is no "real" detail to get. I suppose I could make a map that would feature all of the outlines of the land masses, but printed on a white sheet of paper that wouldn't look very good.

I suspect that either Hasbro or one of our resident artists will have to supply us with that. Perhaps we will finally get to see some of the other generals that way.

Well I'm not sure what Hextr1p wants to do but I'm going to go ahead and set up the text just in case he wants to apply it into his work. I think this would be a fun type of colaborative effort for the creative folk here, :)


It will also be easier for me to finish up a drawing of Utgar now that I can see what he is really meant to look like, :D

[MementoMori]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

The Airborne Elite use Tommys (Thompsons) but making out it's range is not the way to get the horizontal scale. It's better to make out how much an average joe can move in a round, and a round is... Nice, you cant make the scale ;)

[hextr1p]

Well I'm not sure what Hextr1p wants to do but I'm going to go ahead and set up the text just in case he wants to apply it into his work. I think this would be a fun type of colaborative effort for the creative folk here...
Yeah, any help is appreciated. So do as you will.

Eventually, I think it would be cool to have printable maps available in standard sizes like 8.5x11, 11x17, maybe 12x18, etc. The larger format maps might have to be a special kind of thing, as finding a host for such large files could be a pain.

[markwars]

It can also get quite expensive to print giant copies. :P

[CupidsArt]

It can also get quite expensive to print giant copies. :P

Not if you have a Roland SP300 but I think I'm one of the few here with access to stuff like that, :)

[Kepler]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

The Airborne Elite use Tommys (Thompsons) but making out it's range is not the way to get the horizontal scale. It's better to make out how much an average joe can move in a round, and a round is... Nice, you cant make the scale ;)

They look like M-1 carbines to me, but I will take another look.

[markwars]

It can also get quite expensive to print giant copies. :P

Not if you have a Roland SP300 but I think I'm one of the few here with access to stuff like that, :)

I've got an HP5000ps plotter. It's pretty nice, but not many can afford the $15,000 price tag. :P

[markwars]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

I would guess that if I had to apply a scale I would say the hexes represent 8' of distance. So a mile would be 660 hexes.

[DarkSpade]

Has anyone written hasbro and asked them to put up a high rez version? Something with readable txt?

[CupidsArt]

It can also get quite expensive to print giant copies. :P

Not if you have a Roland SP300 but I think I'm one of the few here with access to stuff like that, :)

I've got an HP5000ps plotter. It's pretty nice, but not many can afford the $15,000 price tag. :P

I'd love to have a six color like that. My CMYK still does great though it's a #!@$ of alot better than the Roland CAMM1 that I was using (ancient tech).

Are you working with a 30inch or larger?

[CornPuff]

Umm, did anyone notice that Jandar has a frickin FLOATING CASTLE!

and the only way to get to it is in a boat via his aquaduct(?)! and then the water falls off his little castle island.

WAY COOL!

or is it Utgars castle? hehehehehe

[markwars]

It can also get quite expensive to print giant copies. :P

Not if you have a Roland SP300 but I think I'm one of the few here with access to stuff like that, :)

I've got an HP5000ps plotter. It's pretty nice, but not many can afford the $15,000 price tag. :P

I'd love to have a six color like that. My CMYK still does great though it's a #!@$ of alot better than the Roland CAMM1 that I was using (ancient tech).

Are you working with a 30inch or larger?

If you are talking to me, the HP5K is a 60" format double spool plotter. And the six colors are definitely nice. Though to replace all six ink colors costs $1200. Heck the printheads cost $900 to replace. And then there's the infinite amount of paper of varying sizes, types, and qualities.

I know a guy that works in another shop in a different county than mine that has a plotter that will print on canvas. I want to see if he would be willing to print this on canvas for me. I think that would look super awesome.

[justncaseur1-2]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

I would guess that if I had to apply a scale I would say the hexes represent 8' of distance. So a mile would be 660 hexes.
That would mean that the Airborne Elite's guns only shoot 64 feet.

[markwars]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

I would guess that if I had to apply a scale I would say the hexes represent 8' of distance. So a mile would be 660 hexes.
That would mean that the Airborne Elite's guns only shoot 64 feet.

Yeah, but if their range is true to the weapon then they would be several hundred feet tall. My mind prefers peeshooter guns over gigantic humans.

[thehandofzarquon]

since this map has a mile marker, I was wondering how many hexes across a mile would be. I think you could base it from one of the guns used in the game. i don't know anything about guns so i can't identify any of them to figure out what the range would be.

I would guess that if I had to apply a scale I would say the hexes represent 8' of distance. So a mile would be 660 hexes.
That would mean that the Airborne Elite's guns only shoot 64 feet.

Yeah, but if their range is true to the weapon then they would be several hundred feet tall. My mind prefers peeshooter guns over gigantic humans.Um, what? I'm really getting the jump from true range of their weapons to them being several hundred feet tall.

[markwars]

If the hexes represent true distance and we assume that Sgt. Drake is 6 feet tall then I'd say that each hex is about 8 feet across.

If the Airborne Elites' rifles range represent true distance then 8 hexes would represent at least half a mile.

So the guns are either shooting 64' or the Airborne Elite are really really really tall.

[CornPuff]

What is the dimensions of an HS Hex?
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=1450&highlight=

considering the map really doesn't advance our understanding of Hex scale, I think scale issues were hashed out pretty good in the above thread.

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Now, back to talking about that floating castle! I mane, it looks like you have to ride an antigravity moat to get there! In a viking ship! or maybe a pirate ship! And it looks like there are kyries flying all around the castle, perhaps demon kyries. looks a lot like Utgar's evil castle of antigrav rivers from the sea, help aloft with mystical japanses lodestones that he swiped from his buddy Einar, no doubt.

[ChaosChild]

Now, back to talking about that floating castle! I mane, it looks like you have to ride an antigravity moat to get there! In a viking ship! or maybe a pirate ship! And it looks like there are kyries flying all around the castle, perhaps demon kyries. looks a lot like Utgar's evil castle of antigrav rivers from the sea, help aloft with mystical japanses lodestones that he swiped from his buddy Einar, no doubt.

It's Jandar's castle (from the text next to the picture), the Fortress of the Archkyrie, and it is on shear cliffs. That is a raod with bridges going up to the castle.

[CornPuff]

Now, back to talking about that floating castle! I mane, it looks like you have to ride an antigravity moat to get there! In a viking ship! or maybe a pirate ship! And it looks like there are kyries flying all around the castle, perhaps demon kyries. looks a lot like Utgar's evil castle of antigrav rivers from the sea, help aloft with mystical japanses lodestones that he swiped from his buddy Einar, no doubt.

It's Jandar's castle (from the text next to the picture), the Fortress of the Archkyrie, and it is on shear cliffs. That is a raod with bridges going up to the castle.

oh, thats sorta a bummer.

It does have some pretty cool gothic architecture though.

Is it supposed to be in the middle of the sea, or is it hanging out like alaska, and just put there because the mapmakers couldn't find anywhere else to put it? If it is, do we know where it is actually located?

I'm pretty sure Jandar's castle wasn't released as the castle scenario

[ChaosChild]

Now, back to talking about that floating castle! I mane, it looks like you have to ride an antigravity moat to get there! In a viking ship! or maybe a pirate ship! And it looks like there are kyries flying all around the castle, perhaps demon kyries. looks a lot like Utgar's evil castle of antigrav rivers from the sea, help aloft with mystical japanses lodestones that he swiped from his buddy Einar, no doubt.

It's Jandar's castle (from the text next to the picture), the Fortress of the Archkyrie, and it is on shear cliffs. That is a raod with bridges going up to the castle.

oh, thats sorta a bummer.

It does have some pretty cool gothic architecture though.

Is it supposed to be in the middle of the sea, or is it hanging out like alaska, and just put there because the mapmakers couldn't find anywhere else to put it? If it is, do we know where it is actually located?

I'm pretty sure Jandar's castle wasn't released as the castle scenario

Could be out at sea, might be high in the mountains or in the Thealenk Tundra. Those shear cliffs could be made of ice.

The castle senario is the west barbican at Idona Castle. Looks like that is in Nostralund.

[bunjee]

I sent an email and asked.

[ChaosChild]

I sent an email and asked.

If they don't give you a definate answer, can we continue our speculation? Please. :P :D (Even though we were mostly done anyways.)

[dragonfire]

Its a great map. The place names are a good way to predict what future expansion heropacks will be called