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jschild
May 26th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!

loborocket
May 26th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!

You think THIS is the watershed moment marking the stupidity of Hollywood excutives? You give them more credit than I would. :shock:

Buddy Lee
May 26th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!

Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


Buffy Lee ;)

Disposable Hero
June 9th, 2009, 05:04 PM
I've heard about this (on Wikipedia). Geez... How stupid are they? Well maybe movies aren't Mr. Whedon's strong suit. Remember that one he made with Sigourney Weaver?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Alien_Resurrection_poster.jpg
Then again...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Movie_poster_toy_story.jpg

jschild
June 9th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Joss Whedon was unhappy with the final product. When asked in 2005 how the film differed from the script he had written, Whedon responded:

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable.

This is important in relation to that

Disposable Hero
June 9th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Joss Whedon was unhappy with the final product. When asked in 2005 how the film differed from the script he had written, Whedon responded:

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable.

This is important in relation to that

Point taken.

jschild
June 9th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!

Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


Buffy Lee ;)

Actually he only wrote the screenplay, which was then heavily altered by the very people who want to remake it. They did such a bad job, he wanted to do the show so it could be done properly.

Buddy Lee
June 10th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Gotta give it to Hollywood, only they could be stupid enough to attempt a second Buffy movie without Joss Whedon involved. Go Hollywood!

Umm. Linky?

BTW, why not? 'Cause Joss did such a "great" job with the first one?

(Although the series is one of my favorites of all time.)


Buffy Lee ;)

Actually he only wrote the screenplay, which was then heavily altered by the very people who want to remake it. They did such a bad job, he wanted to do the show so it could be done properly.

Fair enought. After ready the above I suppose it was just a case of be lost in translation you can't blame Joss for poor direction, acting, set design, etc.

He just gets the blame for starting the whole mess of a movie. :wink:

Buddy Lee

jschild
June 10th, 2009, 08:11 AM
Lol yeah. In this case, I've never read the original screenplay, though it was supposed to be a fair bit more serious than the final product was.

Course, sometimes the final product is better than the initial screenplay - See the first draft of Star Wars for a great example of that.

Disposable Hero
June 24th, 2009, 04:55 PM
If they're going to make another movie in that universe, they should adapt Fray for the big screen. READ THAt BOOK! NOW!:twisted:

Melwing17
June 24th, 2009, 06:33 PM
I've heard about this (on Wikipedia). Geez... How stupid are they? Well maybe movies aren't Mr. Whedon's strong suit.


Serenity.

I completely disproved your theory with one word! How great is that? ;)

Disposable Hero
June 26th, 2009, 07:31 AM
I've heard about this (on Wikipedia). Geez... How stupid are they? Well maybe movies aren't Mr. Whedon's strong suit.


Serenity.

I completely disproved your theory with one word! How great is that? ;)
I crossed out yourone word! How great is that? ;):twisted:

Syvaris
July 23rd, 2009, 10:40 PM
His great word is one of the greatest film triumphs ever. Seriously for a canceled tv series to be made in to a movie is truly phenominal. On the buffy note, ehh i was never much of a fan to begin with.