New to heroscape : Bought 2 master set and 3 exp: need input

[Bobthesnake]

Hi guys. I was referred to this site by some heroscape players on the game board geek forum.

I have never seen or played Heroscape before. There is a huge sale here and those below are what I have access too.

Here is what i bought :
Master set : Rise of the Valkyrie
Master set : Swarm of maro
Expenstion set : Fortress of Archkyrie
Expension set : Thaelenk Thundra
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest.

Since you guys are experienced, do you think I will need more? I just browsed the forum quick and saw a thread with maps in a zip file for 1 master, 2,3,4, and 5. I download it and checked quickly, but it seems those maps are for someone who has the Valkyrie master set? I have 2 master, 1 valk and 1 maro, is there some map that exists that contains those 2 master set?

I can afford 1 master set or 2 expensions in the list above. If you guys think I need more than I have (I know the more the better) which one would you recommend?

Oh also I think I could get .Heroscape - Collection 7 Expansion Set- Field of Valor- Heroes of Elswin - English Edition and .Heroscape - Collection 7 Expansion Set- Field of Valor - Spearmen & Riflemen, Should I?

Thanks for the quick response. Don't worrry I will browse this forum intensively, but I needed a quick response so to know what to buy before they are all gone. Also I need to read the rules and play for my first time.

Thanks for the input

[Onacara]

Thats a good start. You have enough terrain to make a good array of maps...you should concentrate on getting some more units now.

[Bobthesnake]

Thats a good start. You have enough terrain to make a good array of maps...you should concentrate on getting some more units now.

I also bought from collection7 : 1x spearman and riffleman, 1x fiends and vampire and 1x Heroes of helswin.

WIth these units, should I focus to buy other units? To tell you the truth, I can't get my hands on anymore units right now which are on sale and I don't want to pay full price + shipping for online buying.

Also, are there scenario on this website that combines Master set 1 Valkyrie and Master set 2 Marro? I really hope so.

[Sokol]

Welcome, Bobthesnake!

[Dennys]

In getting more units, get multiples of the common units (Blue background) at least 2-3. You don't need multiple uniques (Yellow background boosters, and ROTV Masterset figures, or the heroes from SoTM) unless each player wants the same one for a battle.

ROTV and SOTM sets are good for extra terrain, however.

I'd also look at getting Tundra and Fortresses as trading stock. The fortresses are out of production, with no reissue coming soon.

[pixlepix]

In getting more units, get multiples of the common units (Blue background) at least 2-3. You don't need multiple uniques (Yellow background boosters, and ROTV Masterset figures, or the heroes from SoTM) unless each player wants the same one for a battle.

ROTV and SOTM sets are good for extra terrain, however.

I'd also look at getting Tundra and Fortresses as trading stock. The fortresses are out of production, with no reissue coming soon.

Arn't the fortresses common?:confused: But tundra ...:lol:
Here (http://www.heroscape.cz/en/map-database?RotV=1&SotM=1&Marvel=0&RttFF=0&TT=0&VW=0&FotA=0&TJ=0&search=Search&exact=on) is a map database

[Nooblar]

As your collection grows, I think you'll find that you NEED everything! ;) Around here, the rule of thumb is "If you see HeroScape, buy it!" If nothing else, you can trade the rarer packs to others.

If you're looking for some maps with 1 SotM and 1 RotV, check the link in my sig. I've got a couple in there which might be suitable for you.

[Bobthesnake]

As someone said to me in the boardgamegeek forum, at this price, I should get the most I can to optimize this game. So please help me.

Ok guys. Tell me what I should keep, what I should get more tomorrow if there is any left and what I should bring back for refund.

Note that what written below is the only heroscape stuff I can get at the TRU.

Here is what I have a my place right now.

Master set : Rise of the Valkyrie x 1 (4 left)
Master set : Swarm of maro x 1 (tons left)
Expenstion set : Fortress of Archkyrie x 3 (tons left)
Expension set : Thaelenk Thundra x 3 (none left)
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest x 1 (none left)
collection 7 spearman and riffleman x 1 (1 left)
collection 7 fiends and vampire x 1 (none left)
Collection 7 Heroes of helswin x 1 (1 left)

Optional, If I order online, I might be able to get these :
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest
Expension set : Raknar's Vision


I can take back anything you say so tell me what you really think (like one poster said, the collection 7 is crappy except the heroes of helswin). If you really think swarm of maro isn't worth it, I will just return it and get more valkyrie.

Thanks for the input!

P.S. I'm starting to read the rules of the game now :)


Oh also. DO you keep your stuff in the same box you bought them?? If not how do you store them.

[Einar's puppy]

If you go to the 2+ Master Sets (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/downloads.php?do=cat&id=12)section in the downloads, you will find a good amount of sotm and rotv maps. A lot use other expansions too, but I'm sure you will find something, and if you want to add a scenario to one I'm sure you have a good imagination.

I'd say that is a good amount of terrain. I think you have most of the bases covered with that stuff. It's the units that you will want more of. The three packs you got are fun to use, but you may want more of the Ashigaru units. They have a low defence score, so they will die quickly. Being common units, you can use as many as you want at one time.

EDIT: I like sotm, keep it. I would say that 3 tundra are too many, but you can find use for them. That is also a ton of castle, but again you can make some really cool castles with it. Wave 7 isn't great competetively, but I think it is a lot of fun, so keep it.

[Taeblewalker]

I would get two or three copies of a squad pack, such as the romans or the orcs from wave 1. I would also get a hero pack that bonds or otherwise synergizes with that common squad. For example:

Common ------------------------Hero
Venoc Vipers/Armoc Vipers -------Venoc Warlord
Roman Legionairres-------------- Marcus Decimus Gallus or any other warlord
Sacred Band --------------------Marcus, Parmenio, Valguard
Grut Orcs/Heavy Gruts -----------Grimnak/Tornak/Ornak
Ashigaru (either) or any Samurai --Kato Katsuro
Knights of Weston ---------------Sir Denrick/Sir Gilbert/various human
---------------------------------champions
Gladiatrons and Blastatrons
(bonding together without a
hero)


There are others, but these are good ones to start.
Look at the official site to see which unit goes with which wave.

[Tauren_Marine]

Optional, If I order online, I might be able to get these :
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest
Expension set : Raknar's Vision

Raknar's Vision has some really good units in it, and Road to the Forgotten Forest has good terrain that is used in many maps. I would recommend getting both of these, and probably two of the Road, if you can.

Here (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=9603&highlight=guide) is a guide someone put together that shows how good the expansions are

[Bobthesnake]

Optional, If I order online, I might be able to get these :
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest
Expension set : Raknar's Vision

Raknar's Vision has some really good units in it, and Road to the Forgotten Forest has good terrain that is used in many maps. I would recommend getting both of these, and probably two of the Road, if you can.

Here (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=9603&highlight=guide) is a guide someone put together that shows how good the expansions are

So your saying I should probably get 2 Raknar's vision expension and 1 more forest? Maybe get 1 more Master set Valkyrie?

[Taeblewalker]

A second master set is always great for terrain, but if you can only afford a few sets, I would go for more units. There is nothing to be gained, unit-wise, from another Rise of the Valkyrie set.

[Sherman Davies]

Welcome to the site, Bobthesnake!

What to buy next will also be affected by what type of Heroscaper you think you'll be. Some players find the map-making element as rewarding as the actual playing of the game, maybe even more so. If you're going to want to build monster maps right away, go with a second set of Rise of the Valkyrie. It's the best way to quickly accumulate tiles, and it's an obscene amount of plastic for the price. Also, the duplicate figures won't be useless if you play the kinds of games where opponents are allowed to use the same figures.

[Taeblewalker]

Welcome to the site, Bobthesnake!

What to buy next will also be affected by what type of Heroscaper you think you'll be. Some players find the map-making element as rewarding as the actual playing of the game, maybe even more so. If you're going to want to build monster maps right away, go with a second set of Rise of the Valkyrie. It's the best way to quickly accumulate tiles, and it's an obscene amount of plastic for the price. Also, the duplicate figures won't be useless if you play the kinds of games where opponents are allowed to use the same figures.

I hadn't thought of that. :brickwall:

[Bahde]

Im a terrain freak, I started off getting as much as possible, but you will want to focus more on the figures than the terrain unless you have a group of regulars to play with that forces you to build bigger maps.

If you have only 3-6 people you play with regularly...you should be fine with no more than four sets (two of each?) and two or three road sets. To get the full impact of the game you will want to have enough figures to put some diversity on the board each game and build from there.

The power rankings (and other link posted above) make a good reference to which units to look for, check them all out on the Heroscape.com website for stats and such - and then buy them based on what you want to try first. Then build on to that with the comparable units or good counters.

Perhaps the best tool to building your collection.....watch and listen to the discussions on here and tinker with ideas based on input from hundreds of people. :)

Dont buy off eBay unless you really want it that bad - everything will be re-released eventually and you can get x2 as much for the same price. Patience.

[Bobthesnake]

Im a terrain freak, I started off getting as much as possible, but you will want to focus more on the figures than the terrain unless you have a group of regulars to play with that forces you to build bigger maps.

If you have only 3-6 people you play with regularly...you should be fine with no more than four sets (two of each?) and two or three road sets. To get the full impact of the game you will want to have enough figures to put some diversity on the board each game and build from there.

The power rankings (and other link posted above) make a good reference to which units to look for, check them all out on the Heroscape.com website for stats and such - and then buy them based on what you want to try first. Then build on to that with the comparable units or good counters.

Perhaps the best tool to building your collection.....watch and listen to the discussions on here and tinker with ideas based on input from hundreds of people. :)

Dont buy off eBay unless you really want it that bad - everything will be re-released eventually and you can get x2 as much for the same price. Patience.

60% of the time, we will be 2 players and 39% of the time. Does the number of players affect the hugeness of the map? building maps seems awesome :)

The problem is right now, I do not have access to more units.

[Dennys]

Id say get another Rotv right now, and 2 more Ashigaru packs. Those guys are best in multiples with Kato Katsuro, plus you'll have the Izumi Samurai from the masterset, so you can build a classic Samurai Army right now.

After that, look at the site sponsors (Housemouse/WargamersHQ) for mail order of other waves, Wave 1 is being reprinted and wave 10 coming out, so you'll have ample opportunity to get more units. My nearly complete base collection is 1 of each hero pack, 3 of all commons (4 for Drones & Minions), 2 of all MS's and Terrain Packs. With that you can pretty much do anything, unless you see a NEED for more of 1 kind of unit (6 x 10th Regiment ONACARA!)

my :2cents:

[Tauren_Marine]

Optional, If I order online, I might be able to get these :
Expension set : Road of the forgotten forest
Expension set : Raknar's Vision

Raknar's Vision has some really good units in it, and Road to the Forgotten Forest has good terrain that is used in many maps. I would recommend getting both of these, and probably two of the Road, if you can.

Here (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=9603&highlight=guide) is a guide someone put together that shows how good the expansions are

So your saying I should probably get 2 Raknar's vision expension and 1 more forest? Maybe get 1 more Master set Valkyrie?
Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I should have been. 1 Raknar's Vision, and 1 or 2 Road to the Forgotten Forest. Another master set is nice, but not as important as getting more figures that you don't have yet.

[Darth Vader]

Welcome aboard,
I would not return the Swarm of the Marro, because the characters in the set are some of my personal favorites. I would actually recommend another if it fits your budget. The Marro Stingers, which are included in the set can be devastating in large numbers. More figure expansions would probably take priority in your situation, but just one more Swarm of the Marro would help you out if you have extra money to invest into Heroscape. The terrain in the set is underrated.

[Bobthesnake]

Oh by the way, I have access to the Marvel Base set. I didn't get any because I thought it was a stand alone game (I'll admit it, for little kids). Do you guys recommend me to get 1?

[Nooblar]

If you're not a fan of Marvel comics, you may still want it for different terrain options. I know some people have used the asphalt tiles as a stand-in for cooled lava floes. I don't own a Marvel set, but I already have plenty to keep up with by finding older packs.