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feekonea
May 15th, 2006, 08:39 PM
On cards such as mimiring, nif, and dw9k when it says sepcial attack in bold letters, doesnt that mean you can only use it once? If you didnt, then why didnt the creators just make mimirings range 8? and have him always do that line thing. Ive heard that It was accesible thorugh out but |I just want to be sure.

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 08:46 PM
On cards such as mimiring, nif, and dw9k when it says sepcial attack in bold letters, doesnt that mean you can only use it once? If you didnt, then why didnt the creators just make mimirings range 8? and have him always do that line thing. Ive heard that It was accesible thorugh out but |I just want to be sure.

Every character's power can be used repeatedly throughout the game unless otherwise stated (e.g. the Drop for the AE, Rod of Negation for Morsbane). So you could theoretically put your markers on Mimring every turn and use Mimring's fire attack once every turn til the game ends.

The significance of a SPECIAL ATTACK (it will always be printed in all-caps on the card) is that it is never modified. So Mimring's Fire Line SPECIAL ATTACK of 4 is always 4, even if Mimring has height, has a +1attack glyph, and/or has Taelord's enhancing aura.

Mimring's normal attack (range 1) is 4 and it CAN be enhanced by height, Taelord, etc etc. Thus the need to differentiate the SPECIAL ATTACK as range 8.

Jason
May 15th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Special attacks are not limited use. Unlike regular attacks, special attacks cannot be boosted by height advantage or anything else. Additionally some units powers act differently depending whether attacking with a regular or special attack

feekonea
May 15th, 2006, 08:48 PM
wow, Thanks guys, I hate that rule.

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Trust the wisdom of the game designers my friend.

Jason
May 15th, 2006, 08:53 PM
The game could be broken if you allowed Special Attacks to be modified. Imagine DW8k with Taelord + Height + a Glyph. He'd have a 6 dice attack and could keep attacking with every wound he inflicted. He could wipe out single armies in an entire turn

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 08:55 PM
There is a logic behind the SPECIAL ATTACKS not being modified. These attacks are typically AOE's (area of effects). So for instance Mimring could conceivably attack 8 characters at once (assuming his opponent was brilliant enough to line them up so nicely for Mimring).

So Mimring rolls 4 dice for all of them. However, what if the first two guys are lower than Mimring, the second two are on the same height, and the last 4 have height over Mimring?

Does Mimring modify some but not others? Does he roll separately for each figure? If that's then case, then when Mirming rolls separately for each, then it seems like a weird kind of flame - some parts are really strong (a roll of 4 skulls perhaps) and other parts of hte flame are weak (a roll of zero skulls for instance).

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Another great part of ranged Special Attacks . . . they can hit the dreaded Drake. Braxas, Sudema, and Nelfheim are all wonderful new tools for countering the Sargent.

Oprime
May 15th, 2006, 09:08 PM
Ive been unsure of this .

Can you use a characters special ability and special attack in the same turn.

Example: Murphy whip 12, then shot gun blast.

Ive always played you can.

And reasoned it with flying characters.

Example: Mimring can fly and then fireline. (special ability / special attack)

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM
I think you're right OP. Because if you can't use them both, typically it will say "Instead of attacking..." like on Braxas' card, right?

Another question: What is Mimring's gender?

By the way, see ya Friday!!!

Oprime
May 15th, 2006, 09:18 PM
I think you're right OP. Because if you can't use them both, typically it will say "Instead of attacking..." like on Braxas' card, right?

Another question: What is Mimring's gender?

By the way, see ya Friday!!!


exactly and

I believe Mimring is male. (other wise hed be a..beastess)

Yup!

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 09:22 PM
It is funny that the other dragons are clearly marked as Kings or Queen. But then poor Mimring is just . . . a Beast.

Is that what they call Dragons on Icaria that got neutered?

Oprime
May 15th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Yeah.

Like the old Far Side cartoon ,Mim talkin to the other Dragons...
"Then Im goin to Icaria to get Tutoured"

Jason
May 15th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Mimring is male, look at his Bio on Heroscape.com

Pilgrim
May 15th, 2006, 09:38 PM
Right you are. Thanks.

But I still like to think of him as being neutered. That helps me explain his really angry expression.

Agent Minivann
May 16th, 2006, 03:21 AM
The game could be broken if you allowed Special Attacks to be modified. Imagine DW8k with Taelord + Height + a Glyph. He'd have a 6 dice attack and could keep attacking with every wound he inflicted. He could wipe out single armies in an entire turn

I completely agree with everyting you just said, with one exception. Didn't you mean he could wipe out entire armies in a single turn? :?

R˙chean
May 16th, 2006, 10:23 AM
Another question: What is Mimring's gender?
just read the card very closely:

Flying
When counting spaces for Mimring's movement, ignore elevations. Mimring may fly over water without stopping, pass over figures without becoming engaged, and fly over obstacles such as ruins. When Mimring starts to fly, if he is engaged he will take any leaving engagement attacks.

StarSlayer
May 17th, 2006, 09:49 PM
I would agree with your reasoning with murphy, your using the special power and then when you make your attack, you are using the special attack instead of a normal attack.