kyries for ullar, vydar, and einar as well?

[feekonea]

Lets see we have sentinels of jandar, and minions of utgar, and now In wave 6 it looks like there are einar kyrie figures coming out. Is it possible that they make similair kyries for einar, ullar, and vydar? Like defenders of einar, protecters of ullar, and servents of yvdar or something like that? Would you like this idea or dissaprove of it? I would enjoy it very much, everyone of the units could be 110 points, with special ablities that all have some type of connection. It's just a thought, and I think it would be brilliant, so I decieded to announce it. Feedback?

[thehandofzarquon]

Of course. Each of the generals should have their own Kyrie Follower squad. The new Kyrie in Wave 6 look to be Einar. Maybe they have Double Attack (given that they are all dual wielding :P) or something like it... plus it fits in with the Double-theme of the Sentinels and Minions. Ullar and Vydar are our best bet for some Ranged Kyrie, IMHO. Who knows what they would be like though.

[feekonea]

maybe a double move and double range if you roll a 12 or higher or something like that? I dont know, it would be cool though.

[Chimpy]

The more Kyrie the better! I do think Vyydar's kyrie need lasers, or some other high tech gun. They just won't be a true Vydar squad without them.

I also like the idea of the lower generals kyrie would be unique. It would make sense as these generals have a smaller following within Valhalla.

[Riggler]

If the idea is gearing each faction to be more competative in faction play, then each faction needs a flying squad, IMO. The kyrie are one that fits the bill.

Of course I guess there could be winged monkies (ie. winged gorillanators) ala Wizard of Oz for Vydar.

[thehandofzarquon]

If the idea is gearing each faction to be more competative in faction play, then each faction needs a flying squad, IMO. The kyrie are one that fits the bill.

Of course I guess there could be winged monkies (ie. winged gorillanators) ala Wizard of Oz for Vydar.You mean Winged Primadons :P

Still... I could actually see that happening. With like... mechanical cybernetic wings. Or fake metal wings with a jetpack... mmm... monkies with jetpacks.

[Chimpy]

If the idea is gearing each faction to be more competative in faction play, then each faction needs a flying squad, IMO. The kyrie are one that fits the bill.

Of course I guess there could be winged monkies (ie. winged gorillanators) ala Wizard of Oz for Vydar.You mean Winged Primadons :P

Still... I could actually see that happening. With like... mechanical cybernetic wings. Or fake metal wings with a jetpack... mmm... monkies with jetpacks.

That is the best idea in the history of heroscape! Chimps with jetpacks. (They need to be chimps. Wouldn't work if they wern't chimps.)

[feekonea]

great, were 7 posts in and this thread has already been hijacked.

[Chimpy]

Intersting how that happens, isn't it. :wink:

[feekonea]

Intersting how that happens, isn't it. :wink:

:lol:

[Taeblewalker]

Still... I could actually see that happening. With like... mechanical cybernetic wings. Or fake metal wings with a jetpack... mmm... monkies with jetpacks.

How about monks with jetpacks?

[Riggler]

great, were 7 posts in and this thread has already been hijacked.

Sorry. My fault.

I voted yes on the kyrie poll. That's because I do believe each faction needs a flying squad. If its kyrie that's fine. But I hope they'd get a little more creative in accomplishing it. Like the flying monkeys I mentioned for Vydar.

For Ullar, I would probably say a squad of gargoyles or a squad of pixies (hey, another idea for a small unit).

Gargoyles could have either the special ability 1) that they can't be targeted until they are moved or 2) they can't be tartgeted unless they have (or had) a round marker on them in the current round.

Pixies could have the invisible ability.

:hijacked: Sorry. Guess I did it again.

[markwars]

I definitely want kyrie squads for all of the generals.

Chimps with Jetpacks are fine with me for Vydar, but if we get kyrie for Ullar I want Nymphs.

[Fourshadow]

Nymphs don't have wings. Sylphs do, but nymphs do not. Come on, where's your D&D recall when you need it.... :D

[Hahma]

I definitely want kyrie squads for all of the generals.

Chimps with Jetpacks are fine with me for Vydar, but if we get kyrie for Ullar I want Nymphs.

Or Nympho's :hump:

[markwars]

My geekiness is shattered. Sylphs are indeed the correct creature.

I would post pics, but doing a search is probably NSFW. :lol: [/img]

[bluekitsune13]

I absolustely love that idea of more kyries. I'm not sure if they'd all follow the trend of "doubling" something. Powers I could see for the Einar Kyrie would be something like double attack, or perhaps double movement if they don't attack that turn or something. I would love to see ranged kyrie for Ullar and Vydar too, though they would have to be very balanced. Perhaps one could have an ability that doubles their range if they didn't move that turn, which could even things out sinse they could easily take the highground.

[LilNewbie]

This figure would make a cool Vydar Kyrie:

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSN/HMSN_041.jpg

Newb.

[reapersaurus]

Well, 21 to 0 currently shows there's an interest in each general's Kyrie. :D

Maybe interested people would like my Vydar Kyrie that I'll shamefully plug/inform here:

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10070/M%C3%A6_Kiel.jpg

She is a empathic mercenary that fights for either side depending on her choice of delivering lessons in pain or kyrie protection. This actually matches Craig's revelation at ComiCon that Vydar does switch sides :!:

Card is to be updated, made by truth - see my Customs thread if interested for more.

[dickflea]

I voted c) because thats the way i feel about the up coming figures.....as long as they are balanced i don't particularly care... but only if the sculpts are good :wink:

[spiderM9]

Had to say no, Einar is all human.

[netherspirit]

Had to say no, Einar is all human.

And Utgar was all non-humans. Things change....

Wave 6 appears to have Einar Kyrie.

[Chimpy]

Had to say no, Einar is all human.

And Utgar was all non-humans. Things change....

Wave 6 appears to have Einar Kyrie.

While we are on the topic of wave six kyrie, are we sure they belong to Einar? The squad looks like it fits into the Einar theme, but I am not so sure about the hero. Remember this was the scuplt they were going to use for Kelda. It seems more likely that it will be a Jandar or Ullar kyrie. (instead of one for Einar.) Just my :2cents:

[Rhydderch]

I voted yes though I do have a harder time picturing Kyrie who serve Vydar.

I would not be surprised if the new Kyrie have some variation of Double Attack since they have two swords.

The Kyrie with the raised sword does look like she could belong to another general. I think it could go either way. We'll have to see.

[madmanmuzik]

I voted yes though I do have a harder time picturing Kyrie who serve Vydar.

I think Vydar Kyrie would be savage. I can just see them now, all technological-looking, with laser guns. Maybe a little borged out like the Gorillanators. Then we could have a flying squad with range, too.

[Pheonix~flame~kyrie]

I voted yes, Kyrie are my favorites, cept elves. I think Ullars kyrie should have Bows and arrows, and maybe have frenzy or somthing. For Vydar, I agree with the lasers and techno wings, and this claw thing on their arms for cyberclaw or some sort of grappling (diffrent from sgt drake). For Einar, I think either double strike, or counter attack, or maybe even beserker charge for with valgaurd.

[monkeyfish]

For Vydar, I agree with the lasers and techno wings, and this claw thing on their arms for cyberclaw or some sort of grappling (diffrent from sgt drake).
Why would you need grapple abilities when you can fly?

[Gambit]

i think he means a grapple thing that will let you pull things or units to you

[monkeyfish]

i think he means a grapple thing that will let you pull things or units to you
Oh.....

[reapersaurus]

I voted yes though I do have a harder time picturing Kyrie who serve Vydar.You mean - other than the Kyrie who serves Vydar that I pictured? ;)

[jcb231]

Of course. Each of the generals should have their own Kyrie Follower squad. The new Kyrie in Wave 6 look to be Einar. Maybe they have Double Attack (given that they are all dual wielding :P) or something like it... plus it fits in with the Double-theme of the Sentinels and Minions. Ullar and Vydar are our best bet for some Ranged Kyrie, IMHO. Who knows what they would be like though.

Great idea.....double attack Einar Kyrie. Awesome.

I wonder what powers the Einar and Utgar hero Kyries from wave six will have?

[Thor]

With Einar getting kyries in wave 6 I think it's safe to say we are definetly going to get a kyrie squad for each of the other Generals. I agree that they should all have some sort of ability that doubles something for them, and they should all cost 110 points.

This is actually one of the first things that popped into my mind when considering kyrie squads for all the generals. It would really keep a common theme between them all if they had the same point cost and some sort of doubling ability. Double movement for Ullar sounds great and was exactly what I was thinking. I am not sure about Vydar though. I guess double range for Vydar would work but special care would have to be taken to make sure they are balanced. Like 1 or 2 attack max for them. That or they could have some light sabers and some sort of other doubling ability. They definetly should have cybernetic wings and body parts though.

[Uprising]

That or they could have some light sabers and some sort of other doubling ability. They definetly should have cybernetic wings and body parts though.

I would absolutely love for Vydar Kyries to be cybernetic. Having Vibro-Blades or something to that affect (or is it effect?)

[Venandier]

That'd be pretty cool. You could have like, the warriors of Einar, the Guardians of Ullar, and the, uh, somethings of Vydar? I don't know, maybe gunman or something.

[thehandofzarquon]

That or they could have some light sabers and some sort of other doubling ability. They definetly should have cybernetic wings and body parts though.

I would absolutely love for Vydar Kyries to be cybernetic. Having Vibro-Blades or something to that affect (or is it effect?)Effect, I believe.

But, yeah, Vydar's Kyrie should be somewhat techy, cybernetics or not.

[Uprising]

Effect, I believe.


Yea,
It's sad. I'm 27 and I don't know the difference between the two.....still.

[LoneDragon]

I posted this elsewhere before I noticed this topic, but I think Ullar Kyrie should look like Gargoyles or Draconians.

Or maybe they should just make figures from the cartoon Gargoyles...
I love that cartoon.

~Yub yub, Commander!

[feekonea]

I posted this elsewhere before I noticed this topic, but I think Ullar Kyrie should look like Gargoyles or Draconians.

Or maybe they should just make figures from the cartoon Gargoyles...
I love that cartoon.

~Yub yub, Commander!

Oh sorry to re-make the topic.

[Ultarium]

i thought vydar or ,well i get them mixed up, someone had a female kyre with a spear of summoning.......

[Cavalier]

i thought vydar or ,well i get them mixed up, someone had a female kyre with a spear of summoning.......You brought back a 9 month old thread to say...nothing?

[nickmodaily]

Hey, at least they didn't start a completely new thread. Maybe he even successfully used the Search function.

[brickman1444]

Hey, at least they didn't start a completely new thread. Maybe he even successfully used the Search function.

What search function?

[Cavalier]

Hey, at least they didn't start a completely new thread. Maybe he even successfully used the Search function.

What search function?

Sticky: How to Search Heroscapers.com
(http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=)

[Footlad79]

It would be awsome if they each came out with kyrie. Each one should also have a hero kyrie like Utgar has Taelord and Jandar has Raelin and friends.

[Sargent_Drake_8]

:reaper:

[Drumline3469]

Heyyyy I think that's dirty..... :D

[GForce3062]

It's helpless....

[DarkDino]

The kyrie for Ullar are supposedly ranged and will be called "Protecters", read thormun's Journal..... And einar has the imperium and Kiova.... They're great together but expensive..... :wink:

[IAmBatman]

The kyrie for Ullar are supposedly ranged and will be called "Protecters", read thormun's Journal..... And einar has the imperium and Kiova.... They're great together but expensive..... :wink:

To be fair, if you read the first post you'll see this poll was put up Sept. 4, 2006 ... so, pre Imperium and Kiova.
It's the Vydar kyrie I'm still waiting for. They sooo need to have metal wings ...

[gamjuven]

Yeah I can't wait for ullar's kyrie (ranged kyrie=awesome) Vydar's with metal wings would be really cool (nice point out iambatman). I just hope hasbro gets on the ball with releases, it has been a dry spring and summer.

[mr_rex777]

If you read thorum's journal on the official site it shows kyrie squads that follow Ullar that carry crossbow pistols.

[War Solves Everything]

If you read thorum's journal on the official site it shows kyrie squads that follow Ullar that carry crossbow pistols.

A kyrie with a pistol huh? :twisted:

[IAmBatman]

Kyries with machine guns would be even better. :johnwoo2:

[Tiberius]

Or Kyries with small penguins with machine guns?

[IAmBatman]

The Penguins would be awesome enough on their own. They don't need any help from Kyries. :P

[brunakor]

I know it's probably too early or not the right place to talk about this, but has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar? If I went waaay off-topic please tell me.




And we need kyries for Ullar. They would kill. 8)

[NecroBlade]

Or Kyries with small penguins with machine guns?You could just give the penguins a "Drop" special ability. :lol:

[Mycophycophyta]

Good call on the Imperium having Double attack, thehandofzarquon.

By the way, IAmBatman, Vydar has black feathered wings and it appears that all his kyrie comrades have abandoned him but one.
But he very sneaky and may be hiding a whole army of high tech elite kyries.

[ProfessorDocker]

has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar?

Too many times.

!Docker

[brunakor]

has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar?

Too many times.

!Docker

Ok, I thought I was the only one thinking aloud. Thanks for the heads up. :D

[marro_master]

as long as their balanced i don't give a crap what unit comes out was my vote. but i do like the whole kyrie idea,specially for vydar, i picture an armored kyrie with a sniper rifle with like some sighting gear. i really do not know what to think of the ullar crossbow/pistol kyries, should go to vydar, but they should have like spears or something.

[The B.I.V.]

[quote="brunakor"]I know it's probably too early or not the right place to talk about this, but has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar? If I went waaay off-topic please tell me.
quote]

What the hey, I'll go off topic with you. :D

What the crap's Aquila? When I got my Master Woo card, I was like, "what the POO?!!" I figure it's just an inside joke by the game developers or something. I highly doubt there's actually gonna be a new general named Aquilla at this point. It would be dumb to introduce a sixth faction (even numbers of factions=lame). Plus they wouldn't have any figures compared to the others. It's obvious 'ol WinChiu is supposed to be used alongside the monks, which are Ullar, so that's how I use him. Does anyone know anything I don't?

Brandon

[Uprising]

What the hey, I'll go off topic with you. :D

What the crap's Aquila? When I got my Master Woo card, I was like, "what the POO?!!" I figure it's just an inside joke by the game developers or something. I highly doubt there's actually gonna be a new general named Aquilla at this point. It would be dumb to introduce a sixth faction (even numbers of factions=lame). Plus they wouldn't have any figures compared to the others. It's obvious 'ol WinChiu is supposed to be used alongside the monks, which are Ullar, so that's how I use him. Does anyone know anything I don't?

Brandon
Both unreleased units will be fighting for the new General.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/fyorlag.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/sujoah.jpg

[g1shark]

I dunno I'd picture the whole Aquilla kyries having the spears (kinda like a bee with a stinger.)

Vydar's kyries should have soulborg technology I would imagen (sence the bio implyed they where like any other kyrie's technology until the war accured) I'd also imagen stealth flying included.

Actully Ullar's kyries makes sence with elfs, and elfs natrually being potrayed as what? range.

Although on a side note: Anything with range and flying, is rather difficult to kill and a high annoyence.

[Einar's puppy]

I dunno I'd picture the whole Aquilla kyries having the spears (kinda like a bee with a stinger.)


why stop there? Make the whole kyrie a bee.What? Utgar's kyrie are red so why not a bee kyrie? :twisted:

[Einar's puppy]

on a different note I think vydar Kyrie should have spear-rifles. Picture this: A kyrie with glittering ebony armor and a specialized eyepiece for sighting. When he raises his spear the tip slides down and a gun barrel pops out.

Life-1 Attack-2-squad size-3 defence-4 range-8 move-6
specials-meta-spear,whenever the vydar kyrie attacks an adjacent opponent add 2 to it's attack
Vydar squad bonding,if the kyrie has not moved this turn you may move and 1 Vydar squad with a range of 5 or more before attacking
price-I'll leave it up to you

[rdhight]

That or they could have some light sabers and some sort of other doubling ability. They definetly should have cybernetic wings and body parts though.

I would absolutely love for Vydar Kyries to be cybernetic. Having Vibro-Blades or something to that affect (or is it effect?)Effect, I believe.

But, yeah, Vydar's Kyrie should be somewhat techy, cybernetics or not.

As much as I want more sci-fi in the game (a lot!), I think giving Vydar some fantasy Kyrie who are either undead, spellcasters, or both would be a great consolation prize. Mummy-wrapped kyrie would be awesome sculpts. Making them undead gives Vydar a great zombie counter to go with his soulborg vampire counters. To satisfy the "kyrie squads double something" rule, they could each have a weak normal attack but a Braxas-level d20 attack, giving them a mechanical as well as flavor connection to Sudema and Cyprien. To physically demonstrate that they fight with magic, they could even wield Egyptian crooks like the one Sudema's brandishing.

P.S. It's effect.

[magorq10]

great idea, :oops:I should've realized that. by the way I'm baaaaaaaack! :D

[Legion]

I would really love a cool Vydar kyrie squad. And a cool Archkyrie Unique Hero. Half kyrie, half cyborg.

[Garet Jaxx]

I want the Ullar Kyrie with crossbows with the passion of 863 suns, and that is on a scale of 1000 suns. Ahh, Ullar kyrie...:drool:

[StarofEarendil]

I don't care how much anyone says about Ullar kyrie going to be ranged. Based on the idea that Jandar is centered on defense and Utgar on attack, I think Ullar kyrie will be centered on speed with a fast move and a power like frenzy or something. I think Vydar kyrie will be the ones with range, with something like black wings, and stealth flying.

Just my:2cents:

[NecroBlade]

Talk about thread necromancy...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/skeletalwolf28/Heroscape/UllarsProtectors.jpg

That's one take on them anyway. I really want to use them on a big map: fly them out and use Cover Fire to bring up Saylind, then BAM summon Jotun right into the middle of the map.

[GreenLanturn]

:rofl: Whats wrong with thread necromancy? Isn't it better than creating an entirely new one? Then you would link us to that and say, "old." Let the sad faces ensue! :cry::cry::cry:

I would love to see Ullar Kyrie in the next wave! I have no idea what the Vydar Kyrie would do. Your Covering Fire ability is cool. It would be really cool to run up Saylind to blitz with Jotun. I was thinking:

2 attack
1 defense
5 move
6 range
Covering Fire:
"If any allied figure within X range becomes engaged you may take an immediate attack with any one non-newly engaged [insert name of Kyrie card] that has clear sight."

That would make a cool sort of engagement strike that can actually be defended against, also this is affected by height because it gives an immediate attack opposed to a free shot. The X doesn't have to be the 6 range that the card would have; it could be 4 or whatever.

The ability ruling could also be written:
"If any allied figure within the adjusted range of a [insert name of Kyrie card] becomes engaged you may take an immediate attack with any one non-newly engaged [insert name of Kyrie card] that has clear sight."

The second ruling would take into account anything that would adjust their range (i.g. Glyph of Ivor)

Anyone feel like this would be balanced enough to try and fit the 110 points set by the Utgar and Jandar Kyrie but broken by the Einar? I really think the 110 points set earlier sould not have been broken.

I thought of an idea for Vydar but didn't feel like making a new post so I edited this one.

Intercept: If any allied figure is targeted for a non-adjacent normal attack you may move one [insert card name] within 4 clear sight spaces of either the attacking or attacked figure adjacent to the closets of the 2 figures. After moving, the [insert card name] that was moved is attacked instead of the originally targeted figure. This skill may only be used if that [insert card name] figure can end its movement adjacent to either the attacking or the attacked figure. The end result of the move must end adjacent to one of the aforementioned. You may not use intercept on a figure that just used intercept.

So if your Laglor is being threatened by Syvarris from 9 spaces away you can have one Vydar Kyrie with in 4 spaces of either one to protect Laglor.

4 spaces might be a bit extream now that I think about it, maybe 2 or 3?

Also every squad of Kyrie that have come out have had a hero that seems to correspond with the squad: Realin, Tealord, Kiova. Any ideas about what the corresponding heroes will be? Starting there may lead to new ideas about the actual squads.

[the kyrie]

I know it's probably too early or not the right place to talk about this, but has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar? If I went waaay off-topic please tell me.




And we need kyries for Ullar. They would kill. 8)


YES! finally someone thinks like me! they should be the exclusives(like the flagbearers) and be like a height of 7 and superwarlords.

8)awesome.8)

[Cavalier]

I know it's probably too early or not the right place to talk about this, but has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar? If I went waaay off-topic please tell me.




And we need kyries for Ullar. They would kill. 8)


YES! finally someone thinks like me! they should be the exclusives(like the flagbearers) and be like a height of 7 and superwarlords.

8)awesome.8)
Finally??!?!?? He posted that in 2007.:roll:

[Killometer]

I don't care how much anyone says about Ullar kyrie going to be ranged. Based on the idea that Jandar is centered on defense and Utgar on attack, I think Ullar kyrie will be centered on speed with a fast move and a power like frenzy or something. I think Vydar kyrie will be the ones with range, with something like black wings, and stealth flying.

Just my:2cents:

Sorry Star, it turns out you were wrong. ;)


(And how many times can one thread get necro'd?)

[the kyrie]

I know it's probably too early or not the right place to talk about this, but has anyone considered that they should make figures OF Utgar,jandar,aquilla,ullar,einar, and vydar? If I went waaay off-topic please tell me.




And we need kyries for Ullar. They would kill. 8)


YES! finally someone thinks like me! they should be the exclusives(like the flagbearers) and be like a height of 7 and superwarlords.

8)awesome.8)
Finally??!?!?? He posted that in 2007.:roll:



I know I just joined a while ago and I was just catching up on some of the older posts.

I am such a noob.

[Star Wolf]

Wow this is a really old thread. Anyway I am pretty sure that WOTC is coming out with kyrie squads for aquilla, vydar, and einar in the later waves since they already did it for four other generals.

[Obsidian]

Wow this is a really old thread. Anyway I am pretty sure that WOTC is coming out with kyrie squads for aquilla, vydar, and einar in the later waves since they already did it for four other generals.
Doesn't Einar already have kyrie? I know that they don't cost 110 points, but still...

And I know that this thread was created before the Imperium was released.

[Star Wolf]

Wow this is a really old thread. Anyway I am pretty sure that WOTC is coming out with kyrie squads for aquilla, vydar, and einar in the later waves since they already did it for four other generals.
Doesn't Einar already have kyrie? I know that they don't cost 110 points, but still...

And I know that this thread was created before the Imperium was released.
:duh: Oh yeah. For some odd reason I thought there were 7 generals for a second. I forgot about the imperium.

[Obsidian]

:duh: Oh yeah. For some odd reason I thought there were 7 generals for a second. I forgot about the imperium.

A lot of people forget about them. A three figure, 140 point common squad with three defense doesn't get drafted all that much.

[Star Wolf]

Actually my dad plays really good with these guys but me on the other hand, I do not. He wins about 75% of the games when he uses them. These guys are not to be underestimated.

[pinche_guey]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).

[Star Wolf]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).Yes, Vydar does not have kyrie yet. But the moon tribe is probablly a :aquilla: squad since they were discovered by sgt. drake in ticalla's jungle which is her territory.(according to Thorman's Journal)


EDIT:From Thorman's Journal“I am Aquilla, priestess of the Moon Tribe, partaker of the magic waters.”

[Oliver Upshaw]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).

Yeah, I asked that question in a thread of what people thought was going to be in Wave 10 before it was announced and got a confirmation that Thorman's Journal has Vydar saying that his people had left him. I then suggested that for Vydar's Kyrie he draft a squad of power armor humans. The squad would have jump packs giving them flight. I suggested a very powerful squad with all of their abilities, but I also costed them at 150 and made them unique to try and keep them form being to cheesey. This would give Vydar something that played like Kyrie but was also different and high-tech like most of his army.

[the kyrie]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.

[Cavalier]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.
Do you realize that the post you are responding to is a year old?

[the kyrie]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.
Do you realize that the post you are responding to is a year old?
Yes.

[Roufus]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.
Do you realize that the post you are responding to is a year old?
Yes.
Lets hear it for BUMP!

[Sup3rS0n1c]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.
Do you realize that the post you are responding to is a year old?
Yes.
Do you realize that it makes your question completely irrelevant?

(Also considering they now have Ullar kyrie and have had Einar kyrie...)

[the kyrie]

We should expect kyrie from Aquilla, from the Moon Tribe.

[Knight of Feylund]

I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.
Do you realize that the post you are responding to is a year old?
Yes.
Do you realize that it makes your question completely irrelevant?

(Also considering they now have Ullar kyrie and have had Einar kyrie...)

This is a really old topic that shouldn't have been responded to. I don't care for D&D scape that much either, but still this topic is completely irrelevant now.

[Majora's Incarnation]

WOO HOO Necroposting!!! :reaper:

[link10020]

So, in order to state his opinion, he should have started a new thread? where people would tell him to post here, where he's told he shouldn't necro threads....

:confused::frustrated::passout:

the paradox makes my head spin,

Okay I have to know, which do you guys prefer, incase I need to mention something that has been mentioned before.

is it better to necro a thread, or start a new thread? because both seem to draw ire. I don't mean to be sarcastic, i'm just trying to solve the paradox.

[Dad_Scaper]

Nothing is wrong with necroing a thread, as long as you are contributing something to it or asking something related to it. Seems to me the_kyrie wasn't really doing either, so he got needled for the necro.

If he wanted to complain about the direction of HeroScape & its crossover with the D&D line, there are plenty of current threads, if he wanted to talk about kyries, he left that part out, until he was called on it.

I'm sure nobody has any hard feelings toward anyone, but it's pretty obviously an uncalled-for necro.

[Kroz]

Nothing is wrong with necroing a thread, as long as you are contributing something to it or asking something related to it. Seems to me the_kyrie wasn't really doing either, so he got needled for the necro.

If he wanted to complain about the direction of HeroScape & its crossover with the D&D line, there are plenty of current threads, if he wanted to talk about kyries, he left that part out, until he was called on it.

I'm sure nobody has any hard feelings toward anyone, but it's pretty obviously an uncalled-for necro.

Ditto. And most times people won't complain but only comment on how old the thread was that was necro'ed.

[Roufus]

is it better to necro a thread, or start a new thread? because both seem to draw ire. I don't mean to be sarcastic, i'm just trying to solve the paradox.
I vote for necroing a thread.
If you keep starting new ones, the search feature will be darn near worthless.

[spiteofthedice]

As long as you have something new to add, I agree.

Which makes it a lot funnier that the first thread I started on this site was this one (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=15240&highlight=kyrie+squads+for), almost a year and a half after this thread started rolling. Nobody scolded me. I must really be charming.

[vertigosmooth]

Personally, I believe there are too many people on this site who live talk down and fuss at people. It's kind of rediculous, if a new person comments on an old thread someone says something smart about "necroing a thread" but if the new person starts a new thread the same people make a comment about "using the search function", so the correct thing for them to do apparently is...nothing.


Dustin

[spiteofthedice]

Personally, I believe there are too many people on this site who live talk down and fuss at people. It's kind of rediculous, if a new person comments on an old thread someone says something smart about "necroing a thread" but if the new person starts a new thread the same people make a comment about "using the search function", so the correct thing for them to do apparently is...nothing.


Dustin
There is a difference, though, between necroing a thread in a misguided attempt to "join" a conversation that ended a year and a half ago and knowingly resurrecting a thread to revitalize a discussion. If you revitalize it, it's not a dead thread anymore. If you just chime in with "kyrie for Vydar would be cool," then you're just poking a dead thread with a stick.

the kyrie actually raised a new point--one about which I had been worrying myself--unless we see a return to classic Scape, getting those remaining kyrie squads seems unlikely. :(

[vertigosmooth]

Personally, I believe there are too many people on this site who live talk down and fuss at people. It's kind of rediculous, if a new person comments on an old thread someone says something smart about "necroing a thread" but if the new person starts a new thread the same people make a comment about "using the search function", so the correct thing for them to do apparently is...nothing.


Dustin
There is a difference, though, between necroing a thread in a misguided attempt to "join" a conversation that ended a year and a half ago and knowingly resurrecting a thread to revitalize a discussion. If you revitalize it, it's not a dead thread anymore. If you just chime in with "kyrie for Vydar would be cool," then you're just poking a dead thread with a stick.

the kyrie actually raised a new point--one about which I had been worrying myself--unless we see a return to classic Scape, getting those remaining kyrie squads seems unlikely. :(


Oh, I agree totally about necroing and not raising new points, but that isn't the usual reason for coming down on someone. I agree totally about saying something to someone about bad grammar or "this unit sucks" as a post on an old thread. I'm just saying it gets just as old to see the same "rules lawyers" saying the same thing to new posters who really didn't do anything wrong as it does to see some of the new poster mistakes.


Dustin

[Dad_Scaper]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but this
I recall reading somewhere on this site that Vydar does not have kyrie (was it from Thorman's Journal, or just something someone once posted). I think we all know the Kyrie Moon Tribe will go to Vydar (if WotC ever makes classic scape again).
Don't count on WotC making actual HeroScape again. I don't mean to offend anyone, but i don't really like D&D 'scape that much. I guess I'm a little too young for that. If they would have kept it seperate instead of using the generals, that would have been fine.

was his necro'ing post. It added nothing to the thread and posed no question related to the subject.

I'm sorry, but there is not a board I have seen ever, anywhere on the internet, where you will not get needled for adding an irrelevant post to a long-dead thread. Nobody was mean about it or anything, but chiding in this case was perfectly appropriate.

I have seen, in the last couple months, many many more posts critical of some old timers for being critical, than I have seen them (or anyone else, for that matter) actually being nasty.

[spiteofthedice]

He raised a valid point. A lot of 'scapers, myself included, were eagerly awaiting the completion of the kyrie set, with squads for Vydar and Aquilla.

With the concentration on DnD, it seems less likely that the remaining squads will appear. The last time this thread was active, DnD 'Scape was not a thing. So its existence does change the discussion about the remaining kyrie a little.

For example, since I don't know DnD, are there figures that could be used as kyrie? I really don't know.

Also, would we want kyrie that aren't original 'Scape? I'm thinking the majority might say 'no.' I'm thinking I might be in that majority.

I like the DnD stuff, and I appreciate a cost-cutting move as opposed to the discontinuation of the line, but I do think we need at least 1 more classic wave to tie up loose ends, and the common kyrie are at the top of the list.

[Kroz]

that and aquilla's dragon would be needed to tie up the loose ends.

[spiteofthedice]

that and aquilla's dragon would be needed to tie up the loose ends.

Agreed. Forgot about that one. Although the dragon I honestly would not mind being taken from DnD sculpts. DnD has some amazing dragon sculpts, and it would, I think, be an acceptable variation, especially considering that the WotC did their best to aesthetically mimic the existing dragons with their selections for the wyrmling sculpt. The blue wyrmling is my favorite of the bunch, so a huge version of that sculpt would be great.

I'm sure there are plenty who disagree.

But I'm right. ;)

[Kroz]

that and aquilla's dragon would be needed to tie up the loose ends.

Agreed. Forgot about that one. Although the dragon I honestly would not mind being taken from DnD sculpts. DnD has some amazing dragon sculpts, and it would, I think, be an acceptable variation, especially considering that the WotC did their best to aesthetically mimic the existing dragons with their selections for the wyrmling sculpt. The blue wyrmling is my favorite of the bunch, so a huge version of that sculpt would be great.

I'm sure there are plenty who disagree.

But I'm right. ;)

Yeah...I'd prefer classic but I wouldn't be upset if it came from D&D.

[Tagawa]

that and aquilla's dragon would be needed to tie up the loose ends.

Agreed. Forgot about that one. Although the dragon I honestly would not mind being taken from DnD sculpts. DnD has some amazing dragon sculpts, and it would, I think, be an acceptable variation, especially considering that the WotC did their best to aesthetically mimic the existing dragons with their selections for the wyrmling sculpt. The blue wyrmling is my favorite of the bunch, so a huge version of that sculpt would be great.

I'm sure there are plenty who disagree.

But I'm right. ;)

Yeah...I'd prefer classic but I wouldn't be upset if it came from D&D.
I would. :(