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Ugly-Caco
April 3rd, 2009, 11:22 AM
For some reason nothing came up when I searched for X-Men, Wolverine, Origins, or Wolverine X-Men Origins.
Anyways the premature version of the movie was leaked out. Twas the biggest April Fools day prank...well for the people who are behind the movie that is. But maybe it's not, because it was leaked days before April Fools. Got to see some portions of it from my friends laptop. There are scenes that there are no cgi & special effects (I've been told that there are scenes where wolverine has no claws when there should be.), and some scenes have visible rig strings.
Can't wait to see the finish product on the big screen. Deadpool is awesome.
Lank281
April 3rd, 2009, 11:40 AM
I once read that Deadpool didn't have much of a part. He was seen for ten minutes through the beginning, he dissapears, and shows up for another ten minutes near the end of the film. BUT, because producers were happy with Ryan Reanolds playing Wade Wilson they brought him back in to do more shooting and made him a much more important character.
I'm not happy however, with the direction they took his character in the film. If you look for some of the toys, you might see what I mean. But, I regretfully read some spoilers about it which I wish I could forget. I'm just hoping that this whole thing leads to the creation of the Merc with a Mouth we all know and love.
Ugly-Caco
April 3rd, 2009, 11:57 AM
Yeah. They abused is teleportation ability. I know what you mean about the mouth we all know and love.
ProSpecT
April 8th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Ryan Reynolds is the perfect actor for Deadpool as well IMO. I only watched part of the leaked version as well, I didn't want to watch to much because I think it is a movie that you want to see on the big screen for it to actually be exciting. I just skimmed though it excluding the ending.
I think this movie will be great.
MadNik
April 18th, 2009, 01:00 AM
Its hard to explain my feelings toward this film at the moment. I'm not expecting anything good, not after the last one. Yet, at the same time, I'm looking forward to it more than any other movie this year, with the exception of Star Trek.
jschild
April 18th, 2009, 06:08 AM
I've heard its not as good as X-Men 2, but a good deal better than the trash that is X3
Yodaking
April 20th, 2009, 02:00 PM
I watched the leaked version and I liked what I saw. I don't know some of the side characters as well as some of you though so if they weren't up to par I would not have noticed.
The B.I.V.
April 30th, 2009, 04:22 PM
I heard there are several alternate endings (post credits) that detail what happens to several characters in the film. The dumb thing is that you only get to see one of these depending on which theater you happen to be watching in (so in order to see all of them you'd have to see it like 3-5 times in different theaters or wait for the DVD). This smacks of lameness to me...kind of how Marvel killed comics in the 90's by doing 4 or 5 alternate covers for the same comic...
Brandon
Brandon
Mutt Lo
April 30th, 2009, 04:43 PM
Im going to see this tomorrow! yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks good and i enjoyed the first 3 movies.
Trav11111
May 1st, 2009, 01:23 PM
I saw the movie. It was better then x-men 3 but it just felt like it was lacking something through the whole thing. I won't spoil anything for anyone, just don't go expecting this movie to be as great as iron-man was.
karl with a k
May 2nd, 2009, 08:40 AM
Its was great. A little dissapointed in the length cause it wasnt even two hours. Great movie.
<3 Deadpool. I am mad at what happened to him though. HE IS ALIVE though. Go ninja go ninja go!
"So they finally found a way to shut you up?"
Frank'n'stay
May 2nd, 2009, 01:46 PM
Yeah, I got one of the Deadpool endings too. It made my day, and made up for a lot of the mistakes in the film, IMO. It was the mouth I had heard of, and I can't wait to see him in another film!
Metaknight
May 2nd, 2009, 05:54 PM
I'm glad Deadpool and my favorite character, Gambit are making their appearences. I heard it was a pretty good film. Not fabulous like Spider Man 3, but more like the new James Bond movie. Short but sweet.
MadNik
May 2nd, 2009, 10:18 PM
SPOILER!
Heres a thought: On the island, while the mutants are escaping, they are being shot at by security. Cyclops says something like "Give me a shot at them", lifts up the covering over his eyes and shoots the security.
Now, had I been in charge, I probably would have bolted something to his face, as opposed to tossing him in a cell with a rag he could just lift up and blast his way out of my nuclear power plant...
Great movie though, loved it.
Devo Hulk
May 3rd, 2009, 12:53 AM
They kinda messed up Deadpool... a lot.
Ted_Danson
May 4th, 2009, 09:32 AM
This movie was pretty stupid. It seems like they had some good ideas, but they re-wrote it too many times. I would have rather seen a movie about all of the stuff they flash-forwarded through in the opening credits.
I usually don't nit pick comic book movies for things that don't measure up to the continuity of comic books, but I was just so bored that it's really all I could do.
There were a lot.
RabSheila
May 4th, 2009, 11:38 AM
I was really disappointed in it. They ought to just stick with the stories in the comics and stop trying to Hollywood it up. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it, but the relationship between Wolverine and Sabretooth really annoyed me. Not to mention what they did to Deadpool.
jschild
May 4th, 2009, 12:25 PM
They kinda messed up Deadpool... a lot.
IF you see the alternate ending (IE, the one with Wolverine in Japan), you find out that wasn't deadpool at the end.
Also, an Adamantium bullet? I love it when people don't understand the most simple basics of science. Overall the movie was barely better than X3. Barely. Far inferior to the first 2 X-men and the first 2 spider-men movies.
Peter David said it best..they fired a plot shotgun and randomly assembled the pieces.
karl with a k
May 4th, 2009, 02:41 PM
SPOILER!
Heres a thought: On the island, while the mutants are escaping, they are being shot at by security. Cyclops says something like "Give me a shot at them", lifts up the covering over his eyes and shoots the security.
Now, had I been in charge, I probably would have bolted something to his face, as opposed to tossing him in a cell with a rag he could just lift up and blast his way out of my nuclear power plant...
Great movie though, loved it.
He wouldn't do that because he doesn't know were he is aiming.
jschild
May 4th, 2009, 02:55 PM
Exactly, he knew there were other innocent mutants with him and this was before he had his visor where he could adjust the power and the size of his blast.
EDIT: I was misinformed about the Deadpool ending. It is Deadpool apparently - and he starts reassembling himself, and his face is no longer sown shut and he whispers to the audience "Shhhhhhhhh", which sadly, is the most faithful thing about the character.
MadNik
May 4th, 2009, 09:23 PM
SPOILER!
Heres a thought: On the island, while the mutants are escaping, they are being shot at by security. Cyclops says something like "Give me a shot at them", lifts up the covering over his eyes and shoots the security.
Now, had I been in charge, I probably would have bolted something to his face, as opposed to tossing him in a cell with a rag he could just lift up and blast his way out of my nuclear power plant...
Great movie though, loved it.
He wouldn't do that because he doesn't know were he is aiming.
After someone kidnapped me, screwed with my eyes, and threw me in a cell, I'd shoot anywhere and blast my way out.
karl with a k
May 5th, 2009, 05:44 PM
SPOILER!
Heres a thought: On the island, while the mutants are escaping, they are being shot at by security. Cyclops says something like "Give me a shot at them", lifts up the covering over his eyes and shoots the security.
Now, had I been in charge, I probably would have bolted something to his face, as opposed to tossing him in a cell with a rag he could just lift up and blast his way out of my nuclear power plant...
Great movie though, loved it.
He wouldn't do that because he doesn't know were he is aiming.
After someone kidnapped me, screwed with my eyes, and threw me in a cell, I'd shoot anywhere and blast my way out.
Opening you eyes blasts anything. So you would kill inoccent people like you?
Rogue A$$asSIN
May 6th, 2009, 01:51 AM
SPOILER!
Heres a thought: On the island, while the mutants are escaping, they are being shot at by security. Cyclops says something like "Give me a shot at them", lifts up the covering over his eyes and shoots the security.
Now, had I been in charge, I probably would have bolted something to his face, as opposed to tossing him in a cell with a rag he could just lift up and blast his way out of my nuclear power plant...
Great movie though, loved it.
He wouldn't do that because he doesn't know were he is aiming.
After someone kidnapped me, screwed with my eyes, and threw me in a cell, I'd shoot anywhere and blast my way out.
With all due respect too you MadNik To say that you " Blast your way out" says that you must be young, please don't get me wrong when I say to you that, but holding back, doing the right thing and finding the worth in all human life is the real gift, people kill for all reasons, almost none are good reasons, yes some people need to die, like people who touch kids and a few others, but to save a life is far greater power then to take one. I am not a fan of Summers, I think he's a punk but if he were a real person I would follow him into war because he has the power to hold back. Thats my two cents I hope that you can take something good away from this.
SGT Slade Two tours in Iraq.
MadNik
May 6th, 2009, 06:53 AM
Holy crap guys, I'm not putting everyone's morality up for judge here, I'm saying that he is a kid who was kidnapped from home and experimented on, probably painfuly, like torture. And unless they explained that they are throwing him in a prison full of other people before hand, I'd say that he was scared out of his mind and might have tried escaping. He is just a kid.
Now everyone thinks I'd kill for a hamburger.
jschild
May 6th, 2009, 07:14 AM
It's pretty clear in the movie that he knows other people are around him.
The B.I.V.
May 6th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Madnik, you are a bad, bad person....;)
Brandon
RabSheila
May 6th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Holy crap guys, I'm not putting everyone's morality up for judge here, I'm saying that he is a kid who was kidnapped from home and experimented on, probably painfuly, like torture. And unless they explained that they are throwing him in a prison full of other people before hand, I'd say that he was scared out of his mind and might have tried escaping. He is just a kid.
Now everyone thinks I'd kill for a hamburger.
Who at one time or another hasn't wanted to kill for a really juicy, bacon cheeseburger? I bet Wolverine has killed for a hamburger.
Even though Cyclops was a kid and probably freaking out he still had it together enough not to just blindly lash out and possibly hurt someone innocent. In the comics this is the guy that was the first X-Man recruited by Xavier. One of the original five.
Vote Cyclops! Sorry, Battle Royale Flashback.
jschild
May 6th, 2009, 12:38 PM
Cyke was always the cool one under pressure - while Wolverine was always ready to explode....that's what makes the whole Wolverine as team leader (x3 - Wolverine and the x-men) so laughable. That and Cyclops is one of the most powerful mutants in the world, while Wolverine wasn't until he got ret-conned to such a stupid level.
Ugly-Caco
May 6th, 2009, 02:21 PM
Cyke: "Ok guys tell me your powers & with my leadership I'll device an escape plan".
-Mutants told him their powers-
Cyke: "Now tell me where to face to blast & then walk me through in freeing you. Then Emma you go to the front and ..."
Exra guy: "But,Cykes, this aint your movie!"
Cyke:"Egads! You're right, Norbert".
Myst9
May 6th, 2009, 02:32 PM
I just wanted to show you guys this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Oh2OnG51E).
I'm not a fan of the X-movies themselves, but I like the X-men, and thought this video was hilarious. If someone already posted it in here, sorry.
karl with a k
May 6th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Cyclops. He would know that other mutants are around him because they would probably be talking and he'd be like "Hey, who are u guys?"
MadNik
May 6th, 2009, 05:27 PM
I enjoy the character Cyclops, but it seems the movies don't do him justice. I read about there being 3 sequels to Wolverine. X-men Oringins: Wolverine 2 (That's a mouthful), X-men Origins: Deadpool, and X-men Origins: First Class.
Apparently Wolverine 2 takes place in Japan. If they make this movie, I hope Liev Schrieber returns to the role of Sabertooth, and maybe add in Omega Red as the villain (Sabertooth being the side villain like in the latest installment).
The Deadpool movie I'm just confused about, because he does die in the movie. BUT if you stayed after the end, Wade Wilson arrives on the scene, still alive. But thats a secret scene that only half of the movie goers got to see so... I think it would confuse a lot of people to have a Deadpool movie (I'd be ok with it though ;))
And lastly, the First Class movie is Cyclops, Beast, Pheonix, and maybe some of those prisoners that escaped, starting the X-men.
Out of those mentioned above, I hope First Class is the one that excites me the most. Perhaps they will grant Cyclops the respect he deserves... and not kill him in the first fifteen minutes.
Ted_Danson
May 6th, 2009, 09:03 PM
If they do wolvie in japan, they need proper japanese villians, silver samurai, the hand, yukio, the gorgon (i doubt it, he's wayyyy too cool)....
also mariko, and maybe patch wolverine!
of course they will for go all of those things for omega red, gambit, deadpool, and a bunch of other crap that has nothing to do with wolverine in japan.
Rogue A$$asSIN
May 7th, 2009, 02:31 AM
Holy crap guys, I'm not putting everyone's morality up for judge here, I'm saying that he is a kid who was kidnapped from home and experimented on, probably painfuly, like torture. And unless they explained that they are throwing him in a prison full of other people before hand, I'd say that he was scared out of his mind and might have tried escaping. He is just a kid.
Now everyone thinks I'd kill for a hamburger.
I can't speak for anyone other than myself if you would kill for a hamburger can you get me a shake and a large fry. Just kidding:twisted: Your all right in my book, I find your reply to be well thought out, I am happy that you did not go the little beiotch rout.
Keep it real or keep it real funny is all I ask.
marro_shaman
May 7th, 2009, 04:36 AM
Movie was great!!! So glad it didn't follow the comic books. Why would I want to hear the same story twice? If I did I'd just reread the comics.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
I did see two plot holes however....
1. Wolverine dives from the helicopter into water. He's made of metal! He would have sank and drown.
2. Helicopter blows up.... twice
BTW who said they actually liked Spiderman 3!!! Are you kidding? One of the villains is made of sand and cannot be defeated, EVER!!! Venom's weakness was found in like .2 seconds too. That movie was practically a romantic comedy rather than an action movie (though spiderman comics always did bore me)
MadNik
May 7th, 2009, 06:51 AM
Movie was great!!! So glad it didn't follow the comic books. Why would I want to hear the same story twice? If I did I'd just reread the comics.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
I did see two plot holes however....
1. Wolverine dives from the helicopter into water. He's made of metal! He would have sank and drown.
2. Helicopter blows up.... twice
BTW who said they actually liked Spiderman 3!!! Are you kidding? One of the villains is made of sand and cannot be defeated, EVER!!! Venom's weakness was found in like .2 seconds too. That movie was practically a romantic comedy rather than an action movie (though spiderman comics always did bore me)
Yeah, I thought about that two, but my friend said he was strong enough to swim to shore even with the metal body.
And I liked Spiderman 3 as much as one and two. Its goofier for sure, but I still enjoy it because its Spiderman.
jschild
May 7th, 2009, 07:17 AM
And I liked Spiderman 3 as much as one and two. Its goofier for sure, but I still enjoy it because its Spiderman.
Ewww...I bet you liked The Clone Wars Saga too!!!!
I also didn't like that Sabertooth and Wolverine were near equals - Sabertooth is stronger and faster and meaner than Wolverine - The silly "I've got a metal in my bones, now i can whoop you!" was just stupid.
Ted_Danson
May 7th, 2009, 10:26 AM
I'm going to go off-topic for a few seconds here, but bear with me.
Spider-Man 3 is an awful movie, with way to many characters, plot holes, etc....
The Dark Knight uses ALMOST the same exact formula and break down, but is totally awesome. How does that work? Sam Raimi must have watched Dark Knight and been like, "Damn, this is exactly how Spider-Man should have been."
Seriously, the movies are have the same basic structure. Check it out if you are bored one day, have them play side by side.
jschild
May 7th, 2009, 10:47 AM
Spider Man had too many bad guys to focus one, while Dark Knight had 1 less to focus on, plus another hour to deal with that focus.
Spider-man took a silly to the point of stupid approach to looking at a characters dark side, and put forward no character development - while Dark Knight took a brilliant approach to the same issue.
Spider-man should have just had the Black costume and Harry and Sandman, with the end leading to the next movie with Venom as the bad guy.
RabSheila
May 7th, 2009, 10:57 AM
Spider-Man III had Gwen, Batman had the Joker in drag (not a good thing).
A_Train
May 7th, 2009, 11:20 AM
Does anyone else feel misled by the fact that this is the deadpool
action figure?
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/bkak25/Joe%20Blog/Xmen-origins-wolverine-line-Deadpoo.jpg
I know it says comic series in the corner, but these are the official figures for the movie. Its like the toy makers weren't told much about the film, and just based Deadpool off of what everyone was expecting.
Ted_Danson
May 7th, 2009, 12:13 PM
They actually released a whole line of figures first that were not movie related, the Deadpool figure is one of many that aren't in the movie. They also have a Sabretooth based on X1 concepts, Maverick from the Jim Lee series, and a slew of Wolvies, no patch or cowboy though.
karl with a k
May 7th, 2009, 02:40 PM
Does anyone else feel misled by the fact that this is the deadpool
action figure?
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/bkak25/Joe%20Blog/Xmen-origins-wolverine-line-Deadpoo.jpg
I know it says comic series in the corner, but these are the official figures for the movie. Its like the toy makers weren't told much about the film, and just based Deadpool off of what everyone was expecting.
I want one.
GeneralGrievous13
May 7th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Does anyone else feel misled by the fact that this is the deadpool
action figure?
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/bkak25/Joe%20Blog/Xmen-origins-wolverine-line-Deadpoo.jpg
I know it says comic series in the corner, but these are the official figures for the movie. Its like the toy makers weren't told much about the film, and just based Deadpool off of what everyone was expecting.
I want one.
Me too.
Fencerjared
May 7th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Does anyone feel mislead that Wolverine's claws looked like they were drawn and inked by hand, as if he was a character in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Ching Ching, Ching Ching. That was ridiculous.
What about the script, does anyone feel disappointed by that? Wolverine has the most juvenile "dude brah" dialogue I've heard in a long time. "No one kills you but me", and "You wanted the animal, now you got him"?
All the money they spent on it, and they can't even make it look or sound decent.
A_Train
May 7th, 2009, 03:53 PM
The figures are like, $4 at the mall.
Ted_Danson
May 7th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Somewhere in the last 15 years, movie producers decided that it is waaaay cooler to have an action movie with no heart and filled with one liners instead of actual dialogue.
Like they were too bored watching natural character progression and just want 90 minutes of Yippie Ki Yay!
I hate it. I hate that I used to love Bruckheimer productions, and now I hate them. I still love the classics like Beverly Hills Cop 1 + 2, hate part 3, even The Rock was enjoyable. Armegaddon was the worst. Nothing about a 2 hour Aerosmith video makes me happy.
So now, I dislike movies until I see them, that way I won't be upset if they suck, and I will be extremely satisfied if they are good.
MadNik
May 7th, 2009, 07:10 PM
And I liked Spiderman 3 as much as one and two. Its goofier for sure, but I still enjoy it because its Spiderman.
Ewww...I bet you liked The Clone Wars Saga too!!!!
Heh, no I never bothered watching the cartoon.
Yeah, some of the diologue in Wolverine was dry, but I think most of the actors put enough into that it sounded pretty good at first.
Like Sabertooth's line in the beggining "We can't just let you walk away", kinda' cliche but it sounds cool coming from Liev Schrieber.
jschild
May 7th, 2009, 08:09 PM
But....they let him walk away.....
soberman
May 8th, 2009, 02:57 AM
I think the movie was better than I thought it was going to be. Hugh Jackman, despite his height, really "gets" the charcter.
As for cliches in the dialogue, I really don't think it is too bothersome that a character saves another that he's been trying to kill the whole time, and then explains his behavior: "Nobody kills you but me". I actually think this is entirely justified, given the circumstances and the nature of their relationship.
"We can't just let you walk away", on the other hand, is worded in a somewhat corny fashion, but is wholly justified in light of the fact that it is a foreshadowing. This is a common literary device wherein something that is said early on in a story that appears to be of little consequence eventually turns into a major clue as to how events will play out. SUch is he case with this line in Wolverine.
As for the film having "no heart", I disagree. I felt real happy for Logan while he was with Silverfox, and real sorrow when things played out. I felt Logan's outrage when zero gunned down the "good" innocent people. I felt joy when the mutants escaped and, well, you know. (trying to cut down on spoilers here.) The movie has more heart than many other action films.
If I do have a complaint, it's about the end, with the "final boss", possessing combined abilities from other challengers, while the 3-D spining camera is highlighting the treacherous terrain. I don't know, but, for a minute, the film seemed to degenerate into a video game. Wolverine vs. Voldo, or something.
But dang, that was a good fight scene anyhow.
The B.I.V.
May 9th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I'm with Soberman. I thought it was great! The writers did a great job of making a decent plot out of all the gobbledygook. Go to marveluniverse.com and read, weapon X and wolverine. That's some of the most convuluted crap I've ever seen. So I'm impressed that the writers were able to make a great movie out of all that. Suffice it to ay that the "relationship" between Logan and Victor didn't bother me at all. It actually lent itself well to the movie. Is it official Marvel history? No, but like I said, official Marvel history only makes sense if you've read the actual comics (and even then, not always).
Speaking of Victor, I don't think they refer to him as Sabertooth at all in the whole movie. I wonder if that's sto intentionally distance him from the pathetic Sabertooth in the first X-men movie? I think this can almost be considered a re-boot to X-men, since in the first movie, there doesn't seem to be any reference to any relationship between Wolverine and Sabertooth. If we're to reconcile the two movies, one must come to the conclusion that Victor (in X-men Origins) and Sabertooth (X-men 1) are two entirely separate characters.
Okay, sorry for the rambling. Now for the things that bugged me:
SPOILER ALERT!!!
The "death" of Wolvie's wife: Can't his super senses tell the difference between human and animal blood? How did he fail to notice that there were no actual wounds on her body or any torn clothing??!! Good thing he didn't bury her....oops!
Stryker's long walk at the end: Good thing when she said: "Turn around and walk 'til your feet bleed" that he just happened to facing the exact direction that the causeway was rather than walking into the ocean...
If she's that powerful, are you telling me there was no opportunity for her to touch him at some point and say, let my sister go? Seems pretty simple to me...
But hey, dispite those moments, I liked it a lot.
Brandon
Firemaster
May 9th, 2009, 10:00 PM
1. Wolverine dives from the helicopter into water. He's made of metal! He would have sank and drown.
Actually, if you looked closely, it kind of looked like he skipped across the top of the water.
One of my biggest complaints (aside from what they did to deadpool), is Cyclops. If you notice whenever he shot his beam, the areas that got shot looked like they got superheated (most pronounced on Wolverine's claws). If you know anything about the X-Men, you know that Cyclops' beam is pure force, the is no heat involved at all.
Also, Gambit (one of the characters I think they got almost perfectly), just shot way up on my list of favorite Marvel characters. about the only thing that I thought was wrong with him is that he had almost no accent.
The B.I.V.
May 9th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Also, Gambit (one of the characters I think they got almost perfectly), just shot way up on my list of favorite Marvel characters. about the only thing that I thought was wrong with him is that he had almost no accent.
Yeah, but in the comics, he has so much accent it's ridiculous! So I didn't mind the more subtle accent at all. And I loved Gambit's pimp-cane!:lol:
Liev Shrieber did an awesome job as Victor!
Was it just me or did the last part of the movie remind anyone else of the fight scene in Phantom Menace?:starwars:
Wolverine/Obi Wan and Qui Gon leading a bunch of people.
A pair of doors swing open to reveal: Darth Maul/Dead Pool standing there looking all bad-a
Wolverine/Obi Wan and Qui Gon: "I'll/We'll handle this, you take the so-and-so's to wherever."
Big fight between Wolverine and Sabertooth/Obi Wan and Qui Gon and Darth Maul/Deadpool
Darth Maul/Deadpool, and their severed body/head, go falling into a reactor core...:wtf:
Brandon
The B.I.V.
May 12th, 2009, 02:02 PM
Oh, and extra endings? The one I saw had Deadpool's hand reaching out of the rubble towards his severed head which opens it's eyes and says: "Shhh."
Which ones did everyone else see?
Brandon
Firemaster
May 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM
Oh, and extra endings? The one I saw had Deadpool's hand reaching out of the rubble towards his severed head which opens it's eyes and says: "Shhh."
Which ones did everyone else see?
Brandon
I got the bar scene with Wolverine in what I assume is Mardrapoor.
The B.I.V.
May 12th, 2009, 02:07 PM
And what happens?
Brandon
Ted_Danson
May 12th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Wolverine is in Japan drinking, and the lady tending bar asks if he is drinking to forget, and he says the cornball, "No, I'm drinking to, remember."
Blah. I know that I am in the minority on this board, but I just didn't like this movie. I think I would have rather seen Phantom Menace again (which I also hate), but I'm not 100% on that.
I'd rather see Logan the detective that occasionally goes berserk, rather than an all out action movie that happens to feature Wolverine. It's just so cut and paste. They didn't need any of those characters, the relationship between Creed and Logan was so lame, and all of that "feral running" Creed did? Awful.
Sorry y'all, it was a big miss for me, and now I'm positive I won't see another X-men movie until I see a name I like on the director's bill.
I still blame Brett Ratner for this downward spiral. X3 was the worst yet.
jschild
May 12th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Fully agree with you there Ted. Both of those movies it's obvious that the "directors" have no idea of how the characters really are. They didn't keep the spirit of anything and just put forward stupid plot point after stupid plot point.
Epic writing fail.
The B.I.V.
May 12th, 2009, 04:51 PM
I'm not gonna say it was a masterpiece or anything but I enjoyed it. I stopped reading comics in the '90s so maybe I'm a little distanced from the characters. I think they did an okay job, though. I liked Liev Shrieber's Sabertooth. Hugh Jackman is always good as Wolverine. The rest of the characters? Who cares?
Brandon
Ted_Danson
May 13th, 2009, 08:17 AM
BIV, I totally understand what you're saying, it's one of the reasons I love comic books. I read a book, it's not the best, but it has Wolverine slashin up the place. Who cares about the other guys, it was $3 bucks, and next month there will be a new writer, we'll see what they fix.
I feel that paying $10 for an hour and a half means that I can't dismiss the other characters, all of the pieces need to work, because I can't roll over to the theater in 30 days to see what they fixed.
I don't really care about how the movie stacks up against the comics, but how the movie works as a movie.
Myst9
May 21st, 2009, 02:43 PM
Movie was great!!! So glad it didn't follow the comic books. Why would I want to hear the same story twice? If I did I'd just reread the comics.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
I did see two plot holes however....
1. Wolverine dives from the helicopter into water. He's made of metal! He would have sank and drown.
2. Helicopter blows up.... twice
BTW who said they actually liked Spiderman 3!!! Are you kidding? One of the villains is made of sand and cannot be defeated, EVER!!! Venom's weakness was found in like .2 seconds too. That movie was practically a romantic comedy rather than an action movie (though spiderman comics always did bore me)
Good point, but I'll always like spiderman...as long as they don't mess it up too bad. Personally, I was very disappointed in Venom; his "face" kept opening and closing like an elevator, he came in at teh end, you couldn't enjoy Venom as Venom because of these two, and (most of all) they killed Brock! That is the biggest blunder in all superhero movies! The only thing bigger is if they killed off Aunt May or Peter or (going off a bit) Bruce Wayne or Wolverine! I mean, Brock has been almost as much a staple of teh story as the web-slinger himself!...It was still a cool movie;).
Myst9
May 21st, 2009, 02:45 PM
You know what's so funny? I've never even seen Wolfey's movie, but various things ask for my attention anyways. Huh.
The B.I.V.
May 21st, 2009, 04:59 PM
1. Wolverine dives from the helicopter into water. He's made of metal! He would have sank and drown.
Actually, if you looked closely, it kind of looked like he skipped across the top of the water.
Ships are also made of metal and they float just fine...It's a question of how much air Wolverine's lungs hold compared to how heavy he is...
Any other super-secret endings?
Brandon
Hahma
May 24th, 2009, 12:06 AM
The wife and I saw this today and we enjoyed it. I didn't really dig the Weapon XI/Deadpool guy at the end, though it was an awesome fight. It kind of felt like they borrowed from Heroes (ironically since Heroes seems to be kind of based on X-Men with good mutant/bad mutant conflict as well as certain groups of humans trying to eliminate them/use them) by creating a "Sylaresqe" bad guy that has culmative stolen powers to make them super badass.
I could have had one less Wolvie/Victor fight if it meant more time devoted to other characters in the movie or a deeper focus on their relationship, something deeper to indicate how close they had once been in taking care of each other and making it more painful for them to grow different/appart. I know they alluded to their commeraderie early in the movie when they fought in the wars together, but they could have just as easily been buddies as brothers they way they showed it (though I did like the way they showed them in the different wars and the freeze frame shots were cool).
I'm not such a nitpick to say that I didn't enjoy the movie for the most part, but it could have been a better quality film that I would have enjoyed even better. It could have been another fifteen minutes longer and been cooler.
I really did like Gambit and Wade Wilson. Agent Zero was pretty cool too. Wraith was kind of a lame Nightcrawler wannabe.
TheSparkleInYourWater
May 24th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Here's the error I saw. They inject Wolverine with the Adamantium and then say he's invincible now let's wipe his memory clean. Then Wolverine gets up and they try to shoot him with bullets that they just said would have no effect on him and act surprised about it. Then Stryker sends Agent Zero, who is shown as a master gunman, to kill Wolverine. After he fails Stryker's like "oh yeah I have these Adamantium bullets, the only thing in the world that can stop him." Why didn't he give Agent Zero those bullets?
The only reasonable reason is that he wanted Agent Zero to die, but I don't think he did.
I would reccomend paying no more than 1 dollar to watch this, unless you're some kind of hundredaire with cash to blow.
The_Finder
June 9th, 2009, 07:59 PM
I thought the movie was entertaining. I am a big comics guy, but as I have aged I have learned to not get so uptight about stuff that is out of my control. So while I would have liked a more "Comic True" movie, I still found the movie to be entertaining.
One thing is about the Drinking to remember scene. I don't even understand that line....trying to remember what? And how does drinking help that?
But the thing with Wolverine is that he cannot get drunk. His super healing will prevent the alcohol from being absorbed into his system. Actually his systme would still absorb the alcohol, it just wouldn't be able to affect him in anyway as his healing would correct any change in his body chemistry (ie too much booze).
And he does have super senses too. He should have been able to tell that the girl was faking.
And at the end when she tells the guy to walk until his feet start to bleed....but isn't he on an island? Where is he going to walk to? Did she just want him to walk into the bay? I can dig that, but why say till his feet bleed.....I must have mis-heard that line..
Now that I think about it, this movie is alot like Lost. The less you think about it, the more you will enjoy it.
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