New Terrain in Booster Packs

[nickmodaily]

With Wave 5 booster sets being released with snow terrain, I was wondering what types of terrain Heroscapers would actually prefer.

I'm pretty sure that snow is being included with wave 5 boosters because it's cheaper to make (no multi-colors), but I hope that the people at Hasbro were actually thinking about us, the customers.

While I'm sure most people will choose either Road or Water tiles, I think that Ice or Lava would be good as well. Anything to mix it up a little.

I was going to add "Additional Tree" or "Additional Glacier" to the poll, but those aren't really terrain types. And I can't see Hasbro ever including something like that with the boosters.

[K/H_Addict]

well, since lava was exclusive, we'll probably never see it in small expansions. I'd like to see ice, water and road/wall walk pieces or even battlements.

I also think the should start including glyphs or other minor additions to the game such as additional flags for the castles, or new door designs, or something

[Malechi]

Definitely water and ice, you can't have enough of these!!!

[K/H_Addict]

i'd definately say water 100% if it was sparkly. I have 3 ms worth of sparklies, and don't wanna go back to mixed.

[fejkl]

Lava definitely. There just isn't enough in VW.

[Codeman]

Castle style road pieces ( completely interchangeable ) :wink:

[Rÿchean]

I voted water ...and sparkly at that...like 10 of them

:twisted:

[mrbistro]

Heck, anything that isn't grass, rock, or sand would be most welcome.

[Malechi]

I voted water ...and sparkly at that...like 10 of them

:twisted:

......... :rimshot: ......... :pity: ......... :rock:

To dream the impossible dream ...

[-Zim-]

I would like to see small los additions, small rocks, shurbs, or battlements like KH said.

But I would also like water, I need more for my moat!!!

[Rÿchean]

I voted water ...and sparkly at that...like 10 of them

:twisted:

......... :rimshot: ......... :pity: ......... :rock:

To dream the impossible dream ...

Shoot the moon!!!!!!

[Malechi]

I voted water ...and sparkly at that...like 10 of them

:twisted:

......... :rimshot: ......... :pity: ......... :rock:

To dream the impossible dream ...

Shoot the moon!!!!!!


More like tilting at windmills!

:horsepoo:

[feekonea]

I would like to see lava, since we get SO FEW of that in regular boosters 4 it.

[dickflea]

I would have voted water but only if they have the sparkly ones....

[ninthdoc]

My choice is not listed. I want Craig VanNess's favorite terrain. The one he teased Oogie about when he said that it is not yet out. ;)

[madmanmuzik]

Ladders is what I want most. I've got two castle packs so far, but there just don't seem to be enough ladders to go around...

But since it's not an option, I'm voting road/wall walk. ^_^

[Agent Minivann]

Standard terrain - uh, no.

Snow - I like that Wave 5 is snow, but I really would rather have more TT sets. Not that I'm complaining; I like it better than the regular three.

Ice - I like this idea. Complements Wave 5.

Water - *cough* sparkly *cough* Give me sparkly water or stop teasing me.

Lava/Molten Lava - I hardly use the 2 VW I have. If I "needed" more for maps, I'd just go empty some shelf space for TRU.

Road Tiles - I would say only if it is Wall Walk tiles. They're just more useful. That said, there are an aweful lot of them in one set. It used to be difficult to make a decent road with 1 RttFF, but the stuff you don't use for the tops of walls (and other castle related building projects) is pretty substantial IMO. If/when I have 2-3 sets, I won't be needing an more road tiles (with the exception of the 5 hex road tile, but that wouldn't fit in a booster).

Ladders is what I want most. I've got two castle packs so far, but there just don't seem to be enough ladders to go around...

But since it's not an option, I'm voting road/wall walk. ^_^

That's what I want!

EDIT: More trees would be good as well, but I think the marketing lady kind of shot that down. :grumble:

[ninthdoc]

WTF happened to MrBistro's avatar?

[markwars]

If I could have anything I would like shrubbery.

[ninthdoc]

If I could have anything I would like shrubbery.

"Ni!"

[markwars]

Indeed!

[Hahma]

Can never have enough water, but I'd hope that they would use the sparkly kind, though that would be unlikely since the newer master sets come with the crappy kind.

[Thor]

The pieces I find myself often running out of when I build a map are molten lava. The 2 and 1 hex pieces in particular. I usually have plenty of 7-hex molten lava and regular lava pieces left though. I definetly don't need anymore Obsidian Guards either, so buying an over priced VW set isn't really ideal just for the 1 and 2 hex pieces.

I have plenty of snow and ice after buying 10 sets of TT and many multiples of the wave 5 commons. The same goes for roads after all the RttFF and now Castles I have picked up. Finally there is the regular terrain, which came in the MS and in waves 1-4. Got plenty of that too, including the water. It's been a long time since I have ever found myself running out of any of these pieces.

And keep in mind with water, if they did ever include it in an expansion it most certainly would be the crappy solid stuff. I don't see them all the sudden changing back to sparkly water after they changed to the solid water to save on cost. Not only that, I don't see water being released in expansions because so many people either have sparkly or solid. If they offered water in an expansion they would be forcing you to get either sparkly, or most likely solid when you purchase the new stuff. For those who have the kind not offered in the expansion it would suck. While you can mix the two, it doesn't look near as good imo. Having a few extra solid water tiles in a collection made up of all sparkly, or vis versa, isn't very useful in my eyes.

[mrbistro]

WTF happened to MrBistro's avatar?

Braaaains.

BRRAAAIIINNSS.

[Gambit]

OMG, i jumped when i first noticed the changes, did you do that or was it somone else?

[DarkSpade]

Road tiles dagnabit!

[Joah]

WTF happened to MrBistro's avatar?
He lives in Pittsburgh, near a grave yard and his sisters name is Barbara.
Should be in the D/FW any day now.

I voted road.
I want ladders though.

[Sapper]

Heck, anything that isn't grass, rock, or sand would be most welcome.

Here, Here!!

[Malechi]

WTF happened to MrBistro's avatar?

Braaaains.

BRRAAAIIINNSS.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/209148958844f1ba88c7acc.jpg

Milk, it does a body good. Just not so much for the face.

[GaryLASQ]

i'm glad wave 5 has snow. whenever i build with the Tundra set i get annoyed by the 21 ice tiles. too much ice when compared to snow for this set, imo.

i went with Road.

with the castle sets out, Road Tiles become more in need for in and around the castle.

water would be my second choice. but damn it! it wouldn't be sparklies. :(

[steelwolf]

I'd like to see some water or molten lava spaces in the next wave, maybe even ice.

[CornPuff]

I just bought TT because of the new terrain in the boosters. It wouldn't make sense for me to have just 8 or so snow tiles without having glaciers

[Codeman]

I orginally voted : "Castle style road pieces ( completely interchangeable )

I think I will change my vote to; Random mix. Surprise me! We need a little mystery... would it not be nice to be surprised ?

[Gabbi]

I'd like to get more water.
maybe they could make some special tiles, i.e. with small rocks emerging from the water, or with some waves on the surface.
these would be great to add variety to our rivers and ponds.

[madmanmuzik]

God, that would be awesome. Too bad no chance of that, though.

Ooh, or maybe we'll see a water terrain expansion, maybe with shoreline pieces, rocks sticking out of water and some cliffs or something. Okay, now I'm getting all excited for a terrain expansion that doesn't even exist. I'm such a dork...

[markwars]

A Water Terrain expansion must include Pirates and a Sea Serpent.

[Bummer]

i voted for road but a random mix would be a real cool thing also.

[GaryLASQ]

dear lord, please not random.

if you used terrain that was packed in a wave at random, how would you indicate in LandScape or VirtualScape what the required expansions are?

[Codeman]

I supposed the program would have to let you input type/size/qty... not as clean as today. I still like the cracker jack senerio ( A surprize in every expansion )

[madmanmuzik]

I think random terrain would open a can of worms we might not want opened. One of the numerous things I like about HS is how nothing is random. You know exactly what you're getting in a pack, so if they were able to keep the darn shelves stocked it would be a snap to complete your collection. I'd be afrad that if they started packaging terrain randomly, there'd end up being rarity classes and all the icky crap that collectible games have to deal with. I could see everybody trying to find the packs with trees or extra castle pieces. What's next after that? Rare glyphs? "Man, I can't believe you managed to get a Black Lotus glyph!" etc. I know slippery slope arguments are bogus, but I really don't want to see HS head that direction in any way, shape, or form. Just my :2cents:

[thehandofzarquon]

I think random terrain would open a can of worms we might not want opened. One of the numerous things I like about HS is how nothing is random. You know exactly what you're getting in a pack, so if they were able to keep the darn shelves stocked it would be a snap to complete your collection. I'd be afrad that if they started packaging terrain randomly, there'd end up being rarity classes and all the icky crap that collectible games have to deal with. I could see everybody trying to find the packs with trees or extra castle pieces. What's next after that? Rare glyphs? "Man, I can't believe you managed to get a Black Lotus glyph!" etc. I know slippery slope arguments are bogus, but I really don't want to see HS head that direction in any way, shape, or form. Just my :2cents:Indeed. If there is ever randomized terrain, I hope it's just Grass, Rock, and Sand, which I don't care how much more I get of it anyway.

One thing I wouldn't mind though: Randomzied Sculpts for each common squad. Think about it, you still know what you are getting, but there will be a little more variety in the sculpts. No mechanical difference between the randomized sculpts, they just look different. Just an idea :shrug:

[madmanmuzik]

Hmm. Well, just look at the Favorite Squad Sculpts threads. You can see that certain sculpts are just plain liked more. I guess it wouldn't really make that much of a difference, though, as long as they don't make certain sculpts rare. Like I said, slippery slope arguments are bogus. It seems to me that that might be more trouble than it's worth for Hasbro, since they'd have to make more sculpts than actually came in a squad. I prefer it how it is, but I wouldn't be up in arms if they did that, though. ^_^

[markwars]

The master molds for the sculpts we do get are unbelievably expensive. We're lucky that we get four different Blastatrons rather than four of the same one.

[Thor]

The master molds for the sculpts we do get are unbelievably expensive. We're lucky that we get four different Blastatrons rather than four of the same one.
Hence why we are getting two identicle squads of zombies in wave 6 instead of two different squads of zombies in the booster. It would have been the perfect oppourtunity to offer two different versions of the same squad, but alas, no.

Personally I would hate to see random sculpts in expansion boosters, even more so then terrain. I really like some sculpts more then I like others and would hate buying an expansion and getting the "crappy" sculpts. Not only that, what if you bought an expansion and it had 2 identicle sculpts? Or worse yet, three identicle sculpts? Really they couldn't make the squads random unless they ran this risk. This of course would upset customers, I'm sure.

They could make different versions of each expansion booster which all had a different squad scupt, but again that would cost a TON of Hasbro's part for all the extra molds they would have to make. Not only that, it wouldn't necessarily be more profitable. For us die hards it would be great, but for others they would choose their favorite squad sculpt in a pack and only buy that one, leaving the others to rot and cost Hasbro a lot of money. Personally I think the way they are doing things now is terrific.

And like markwars said, at least squads don't have only one sculpt to make them up.

[Nwojedi]

i'd love to see wave 6 come with Ladders instead of terrain. You can always use more ladders, even if you don't have the castle set. Would probably be cheaper to include for hasbro as well.

[Country_Dragon]

It was close between road and water for me but in the end I choose the road most traveled.

[Tiberius]

Sand/Rock/Grass, it is what I use the most.

[Junge Roman]

snow. I can't afford to buy multiples, but it's hard to make feasible snowscapes with one TT and Wave 5. It is scandinavian based lore, so we need more scandinavian terrain. +1 glyph like the good 'ole days.

[Nwojedi]

i think they should include a tree or a bush. Something maybe 4 hex's high. Wouldn't cost that much and you'd really feel like getting value for your money. Since we've been bombarded with the worst value in HS today recently.

[ninthdoc]

I've been thinking about this and I gotta go w/NWO. I want bush(es) in Wave 6.

[jumpman_14]

more snow!

[Omnicronwarlord]

I voted Roads, I would love to have a 4 space thick giant boalvard...


As for speculative stuff, small bushes, broken pillars, and other stuff to help block LOS, ranged units seem too good in my games.

[Thor]

i think they should include a tree or a bush. Something maybe 4 hex's high. Wouldn't cost that much and you'd really feel like getting value for your money. Since we've been bombarded with the worst value in HS today recently.
The problem with that is a bush would require an entirely new sculpt and cost Hasbro much more then simply repacking existing terrain. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, but throwing in a new bush sculpt would be just as expensive for Hasbro as throwing in an extra figure in each booster.

I still say lava. We got snow in wave 5 so why not show lava a little love and give us some more of it? I know it's an exclusive, but 20 dollars for the set is rediculous. Plus I don't want anymore 7-hex molten lava or Obsidian Guards. I'd love to see lava and molten lava pieces in wave 6.

[Karkadinn]

I doubt Hasbro will ever include terrain from a terrain-specific expansion, such as lava or road tiles. That wouldn't be very smart of them for a number of reasons.

[atmospro]

I doubt Hasbro will ever include terrain from a terrain-specific expansion, such as lava or road tiles. That wouldn't be very smart of them for a number of reasons.

Psssst, Pssst They already did. Wave 5 has snow pieces.
I won't tell anyone if you don't.
Sssshhh.

[Karkadinn]

I doubt Hasbro will ever include terrain from a terrain-specific expansion, such as lava or road tiles. That wouldn't be very smart of them for a number of reasons.

Psssst, Pssst They already did. Wave 5 has snow pieces.
I won't tell anyone if you don't.
Sssshhh.

...
Seriously?!

[Thor]

Yes they did.

[atmospro]

Would I lie to you.
Yep they did.

[Karkadinn]

Wow, that's crazy. I would have bet my left testicle they'd never have done that.

[Thor]

At first I thought you were joking around, but you really have never seen any of the multiple threads that mention or hint at snow being included in wave 5? Get with the times Karkadinn! Each wave 5 booster includes 2 2-hex snow pieces.

[ninthdoc]

Wow, that's crazy. I would have bet my left testicle they'd never have done that.

Man, Kark, that's nuts! (Well, one of 'em anyways!) :rofl:

[Nooblar]

I've been thinking about this and I gotta go w/NWO. I want bush(es) in Wave 6.

ARTHUR: Who are you?
HEAD KNIGHT: We are the Knights Who Say... 'Ni'!
RANDOM: Ni!
ARTHUR: No! Not the Knights Who Say 'Ni'!
HEAD KNIGHT: The same!
BEDEVERE: Who are they?
HEAD KNIGHT: We are the keepers of the sacred words: Ni, Peng, and Neee-wom!
RANDOM: Neee-wom!
ARTHUR: Those who hear them seldom live to tell the tale!
HEAD KNIGHT: The Knights Who Say 'Ni' demand a sacrifice!
ARTHUR: Knights of Ni, we are but simple travelers who seek the enchanter who lives beyond these woods.
HEAD KNIGHT: Ni!
KNIGHTS OF NI: Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!...
ARTHUR: Ow! Ow! Ow! Agh!
HEAD KNIGHT: We shall say 'ni' again to you if you do not appease us.
ARTHUR: Well, what is it you want?
HEAD KNIGHT: We want... a shrubbery!
[dramatic chord]
ARTHUR: A what?
KNIGHTS OF NI: Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!
ARTHUR and PARTY: Ow! Oh!
ARTHUR: Please, please! No more! We will find you a shrubbery.
HEAD KNIGHT: You must return here with a shrubbery or else you will never pass through this wood alive!
ARTHUR: O Knights of Ni, you are just and fair, and we will return with a shrubbery.
HEAD KNIGHT: One that looks nice.
ARTHUR: Of course.
HEAD KNIGHT: And not too expensive.
ARTHUR: Yes.
HEAD KNIGHT: Now... go!

[Karkadinn]

I don't really look too hard at new expansion threads save to see the new unit stats. Since I'm not buyin' them, there's no point for me in figuring out which ones have what kinds of terrain, or glyphs, etc....
Hmm, what else am I missing, I wonder. Have we had any new glyphs since wave 1? ;)

[Nwojedi]

Wow, that's crazy. I would have bet my left testicle they'd never have done that.

From now on, karkadinn will be known as old ONE ball. :P

[GaryLASQ]

i'd love to see wave 6 come with Ladders instead of terrain. You can always use more ladders, even if you don't have the castle set. Would probably be cheaper to include for hasbro as well.i too would like to see more ladder rungs.

[Riggler]

I wonder if they can fit a 7-hex tile in the box

[Venandier]

Water is the one commodity that I can never have enough of, and I am always run out trying to make awesome lakes or wide rivers. I would love Hasbro forevermore if they put water in wave 6.

[outtakontroll]

Water is the one commodity that I can never have enough of, and I am always run out trying to make awesome lakes or wide rivers. I would love Hasbro forevermore if they put water in wave 6.

Sparklies to boot! Although I dont see that happening.

I voted for road.

.....................outtakontroll

[Menchy]

I voted for ice, since currently all the snow on my map is supplied from wave 5... yeah i know sad, but until my parents will buy me TT some ice would be nice to compliment the snow. Molten lava, or lava field tiles would be nice too. I was trying to make a castle with a lava moat the other day and ran out of lava tiles quite quickly. :cry:

[playa1]

I think water is a precious commodity in HS, but I bought a water booster from House of Mouse and I gotta say that I almost always have enough water for my boards. One thing I'm sick of is Lava. I've got two lava sets, but I find that I can't do much with lava. I can make the lava lake or the lava river, but I just can't mix it in with much else. I usually end up just using it as a base for hills and valleys.
The lava is constraining. You have to keep in mind that it is just like unusuable terrain for 95% of your units. Even the lava rock is just terrain that you can go over, but would never chance a die roll on, so I find lava is a waste of time. Plus, you'd never put it near snow or water, because that just looks dumb, so I never end up using all my molten lava rock stuff unless it is to build something else.

[Cavalier]

I think water is a precious commodity in HS, but I bought a water booster from House of Mouse and I gotta say that I almost always have enough water for my boards. One thing I'm sick of is Lava. I've got two lava sets, but I find that I can't do much with lava. I can make the lava lake or the lava river, but I just can't mix it in with much else. I usually end up just using it as a base for hills and valleys.
The lava is constraining. You have to keep in mind that it is just like unusuable terrain for 95% of your units. Even the lava rock is just terrain that you can go over, but would never chance a die roll on, so I find lava is a waste of time. Plus, you'd never put it near snow or water, because that just looks dumb, so I never end up using all my molten lava rock stuff unless it is to build something else.

why wouldn't you put lava next to snow or water? It happens in nature all the time

http://www.spring.net/marci/Public/Hawaii/LavaOnSnow.jpg

[Elstree]

Even the lava rock is just terrain that you can go over, but would never chance a die roll on
There's a name for someone willing to take a chance on a lava field die roll: Winner. 8)

[Revdyer]

Even the lava rock is just terrain that you can go over, but would never chance a die roll on
There's a name for someone willing to take a chance on a lava field die roll: Winner. 8)
I'm impressed, Elstree! Replying to a statement posted November 9th, 2006 is a great illustration of the saying "Better late than never." <laughing>

[guido]

Even the lava rock is just terrain that you can go over, but would never chance a die roll on
There's a name for someone willing to take a chance on a lava field die roll: Winner. 8)

It's true though. I had one lava battle at the last Tourney and would not have won the battle if I hadn't climbed my blast onto a lava rock to get height. The little guy rolled 3 skulls (one for his kamekazi buddy) attacking Nilfy. Nilfy rolled no shields and was put to rest because of that lucky shot. If I didn't have the noots to risk molten rock death, I would have lost horribly. (my Q9 was taken out of the picture by Nilfy far sooner than it should have been).