GenCon 2009 Heroscape Events

[SuperflyTNT]

Come on people, sign up for CTF; it sounds totally cool!

(I'm doing HoB, CTF, Championship, Lightweight, General Wars- nothing Sunday unless I change my mind).

I'm destined to meet you on the field of battle, amigo. I signed up for the exact same, except I signed for a Sunday event too.

[Revdyer]

My son and I will be there Saturday only. We're both signed up for War of the Worlds and General Wars.I'm sorry I won't have a chance to play either of you...but look forward to seeing ya'll, nonetheless.

[skyknight]

I only signed for championships...I figure its all or nothing this year.

[Retlaw]

4/22 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 left
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 left

[bunjee]

We signed up for a few:
Bunjee: Capture the Flag and Unique Hero
Elstree: Capture the Flag and Big Ol' Monster

(Retlaw's post was after our purchase and those numbers are true as of 4:20pm eastern)

[Retlaw]

4/23 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 left
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 left

Of the original 464 spots open only 171 are left (well technically there are 480 spots listed, but 16 of them are the second day of the Championship -- I guess they were filled as soon as there were 16 people signed up for the first day of the championship -- so you could also look at it as 171 left out of 480). Or put another way it is 63% (or 64%) full in less than 4 days.

Any one want to "place bets" on which one will fill up first?

[worldsenemy]

I think the lightweight one will go first. It's less expensive

[Jexik]

I didn't even look at the prices when I signed up. I just liked the idea of a 340 point tournament. It almost seems like it's deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in 4th and Blastatron builds, while simultaneously making me consider playing some 40-50 point squads that won't be on the table for the 500 point events.

(Considering how much going to GenCon costs in all... how many people here make a decision on their events by a 2 to 4 dollar price change)?

[dok]

I didn't even look at the prices when I signed up. I just liked the idea of a 340 point tournament. It almost seems like it's deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in 4th and Blastatron builds, while simultaneously making me consider playing some 40-50 point squads that won't be on the table for the 500 point events.

I'd bet they considered 4thx5 when they picked that point level.

To me, it screams either Arrow Grut army (either AGx3, Swogx4, Krug, or AGx2, Swogx2, Raelin, Krug, Isamu) or Marros and Romans (Romansx3, NGS, MBS, Marro Warriors).

[Cleon]

I didn't even look at the prices when I signed up. I just liked the idea of a 340 point tournament. It almost seems like it's deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in 4th and Blastatron builds, while simultaneously making me consider playing some 40-50 point squads that won't be on the table for the 500 point events.

(Considering how much going to GenCon costs in all... how many people here make a decision on their events by a 2 to 4 dollar price change)?

I don't. Every GenCon we just go on the computer as soon as event registration open and sign up for as many Heroscape events as possible (7's the total amount this year, considering 3 pairs of events intersect times with each other). I pick all the ones I like the best including the Championship and some old favorites (i. e. - this year, General Wars) and then we order x2 of the tickets so that my dad can play in the same max. events as I. So what if it's like $20 more in total oppose to say less fun events that happen to be cheaper?

And I also love the Lightweight tournament, I've always wanted them to do a tournament with a point cost around like 300pt. It will be very interesting to see what units will excel in it.

[Retlaw]

I didn't even look at the prices when I signed up. I just liked the idea of a 340 point tournament. It almost seems like it's deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in 4th and Blastatron builds, while simultaneously making me consider playing some 40-50 point squads that won't be on the table for the 500 point events.

I'd bet they considered 4thx5 when they picked that point level.

To me, it screams either Arrow Grut army (either AGx3, Swogx4, Krug, or AGx2, Swogx2, Raelin, Krug, Isamu) or Marros and Romans (Romansx3, NGS, MBS, Marro Warriors).

Yep they did. From another thread:

Quote:Originally Posted by Rÿchean
...I fear at 350pts, 5x4th Mass will probably dominate the Lightweight event.

Too bad, we only have 4 of the 4th Mass ;)

[arp12]

I didn't even look at the prices when I signed up. I just liked the idea of a 340 point tournament. It almost seems like it's deliberately throwing a monkey wrench in 4th and Blastatron builds, while simultaneously making me consider playing some 40-50 point squads that won't be on the table for the 500 point events.

I'd bet they considered 4thx5 when they picked that point level.

To me, it screams either Arrow Grut army (either AGx3, Swogx4, Krug, or AGx2, Swogx2, Raelin, Krug, Isamu) or Marros and Romans (Romansx3, NGS, MBS, Marro Warriors).

Yep they did. From another thread:

Quote:Originally Posted by Rÿchean
...I fear at 350pts, 5x4th Mass will probably dominate the Lightweight event.

Too bad, we only have 4 of the 4th Mass ;)
You ninjad me there.

It does seem extremely difficult to construct a successful 4th Massachusetts Line build at 340 points.

[EternalThanos86]

Too bad, we only have 4 of the 4th Mass ;)
You ninjad me there.

It does seem extremely difficult to construct a successful 4th Massachusetts Line build at 340 points.

Nah, just do

4 x 4th Mass
Zetacron

How hard was that? :twisted:
~ET86

[arp12]

Too bad, we only have 4 of the 4th Mass ;)
You ninjad me there.

It does seem extremely difficult to construct a successful 4th Massachusetts Line build at 340 points.

Nah, just do

4 x 4th Mass
Zetacron

How hard was that? :twisted:
~ET86
:hijacked: Actually, Zetacron is prescise, so he has to die for the Mass to get their valiant bonus. With just 2 defense, I'd hate to be the victim of Airborne Elite grenasion.

[dok]

It does seem extremely difficult to construct a successful 4th Massachusetts Line build at 340 points.

Nah, just do

4 x 4th Mass
Zetacron

How hard was that? :twisted:
~ET86
:hijacked: Actually, Zetacron is prescise, so he has to die for the Mass to get their valiant bonus. With just 2 defense, I'd hate to be the victim of Airborne Elite grenasion.

Exactly; if I was playing against that I would ignore the hell out of Zetacron until most of the 4th Mass were dead.

[SuperflyTNT]

All of this is completely subject to change as, if you'll remember, the new wave will be out by then. This could really be interesting, seeing as nobody knows what is coming, except perhaps the people who are setting these games up...?

[Revdyer]

Well, I hear that there is going to be a zombie leader included in Wave 9 with super bonding.
http://www.humblepress.com/Concert/graphics/gallery/garcia.jpg

[Retlaw]

Well, I hear that there is going to be a zombie leader included in Wave 9 with super bonding.
http://www.humblepress.com/Concert/graphics/gallery/garcia.jpg

Didn't recognize the picture at first -- I'm more use to him looking like this:
http://media.mnginteractive.com/media/paper203/080905-Jerry-Garcia.jpg

Either one -- he would still be a great leader of the undead(heads).

[Harlax]

Oh well, a touch of grey, kinda suits you anyway... ;)

[Revdyer]

I seem to have bought an extra ticket for the Heat of the Battle and for the Championship Day 1; if you are interested in either of these, please PM me, as there seems to be no way to cancel them or turn them in.

[Hahnarama]

I seem to have bought an extra ticket for the Heat of the Battle and for the Championship Day 1; if you are interested in either of these, please PM me, as there seems to be no way to cancel them or turn them in.

Rev,
You can e-mail customerservice@gencon.com

Give them your ID and account number, make sure you use the email that you have on file with them.

As along as it's before the end event reg you will get a full refund.

I plan on dropping my Scape events if we get bad news concerning an exclusive.

[Revdyer]

Thanks, Hahn.

[Hahnarama]

Thanks, Hahn.

Santa I always have your back.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 left
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

[brain of morbius]

Hi all,
I just got my Gencon badge. I am looking forward to it!

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

4/28 4/30 5/4 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

:D

[Gulp]

I just got my badge and registered for the championship! It's beginning to feel a lot like tournament season.

[SuperflyTNT]

Hope I get to play you Adam, I have yet to be Gulped....!

[Gulp]

Hope I get to play you Adam, I have yet to be Gulped....!

If we play, I think we should set up a side bet.

The loser has to agree with everything the winner says in the General forums for a week! :D

[Hahnarama]

Gulp Sux!

What hotel you staying @ brother?

[Gulp]

Gulp Sux!

What hotel you staying @ brother?

I'm staying at the Hahn Hilton Resort and Trampoline Spa.

Actually I don't have my lodging worked out yet. I'll probably stay Thursday and Friday night.

[Hahnarama]

Gulp Sux!

What hotel you staying @ brother?

I'm staying at the Hahn Hilton Resort and Trampoline Spa.

Actually I don't have my lodging worked out yet. I'll probably stay Thursday and Friday night.

Sorry brother the only thing staying at my house if Just John's truck. I'll be downtown Wed-Sun.

Keep me in the loop on your room search. I'll see if I can at least help find you some floor space.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

[Rÿchean]

Just to let everyone know, the descirption for Lightweight and Mixed Marvel have been updated in the Gen Con event list:

Title: Heroscape - Lightweight

Description: Open to all players, 32 positions. 5 round swiss style tournament with no final. Players bring order markers, wound markers, dice, cards, and a pre-drafted 340 point Heroscape (no Marvel) army that does not exceed 24 hexes. The tournament is played in one hour rounds using 3rd edition rules. Prizes awarded to the top three finishers.

Title: Heroscape - Mixed Marvel

Description: Open to all players, 32 positions. 5 round swiss style tournament with no final. Players bring order markers, wound markers, dice, cards, and a pre-drafted 550 point Heroscape army that does not exceed 24 hexes. Armies MAY include Marvel Heroscape units. The tournament is played in one hour rounds using 3rd edition rules. Prizes awarded to the top three finishers.

[gamjuven]

Just got my badge and signed up for championship and general wars. Back to reclaim my general title and hopefully not lose to spider_poison in day 2

[Revdyer]

I seem to have bought an extra ticket for the Heat of the Battle and for the Championship Day 1; if you are interested in either of these, please PM me, as there seems to be no way to cancel them or turn them in.

Rev,
You can e-mail customerservice@gencon.com

Give them your ID and account number, make sure you use the email that you have on file with them.

As along as it's before the end event reg you will get a full refund.

I plan on dropping my Scape events if we get bad news concerning an exclusive.
Just to let you know, with my thanks, and everyone else; while it took some time, I got emails today confirming that they have un-duplicated my orders (and keeping the original ones!). So, all is well with the GenCon world.

Thanks, again, Hahn.

[Hahnarama]

I seem to have bought an extra ticket for the Heat of the Battle and for the Championship Day 1; if you are interested in either of these, please PM me, as there seems to be no way to cancel them or turn them in.

Rev,
You can e-mail customerservice@gencon.com

Give them your ID and account number, make sure you use the email that you have on file with them.

As along as it's before the end event reg you will get a full refund.

I plan on dropping my Scape events if we get bad news concerning an exclusive.
Just to let you know, with my thanks, and everyone else; while it took some time, I got emails today confirming that they have un-duplicated my orders (and keeping the original ones!). So, all is well with the GenCon world.

Thanks, again, Hahn.

Rev I always have your back, but if you feel the need Rep me. LOL

Now I'm just speaking for me and I'm not saying I've heard anything but if it turns out there is no :gencon: excl this year I'll be dumping my events. I mean I don't need to drop $8 on an event and get nothing for it besides playing Scape with friends, when I could spend $8 on beer and play Scape with friends.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 left
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

[Revdyer]

Thank you, Retlaw, for continuing to post these totals remaining.
<RR>

[Retlaw]

Thank you, Retlaw, for continuing to post these totals remaining.
<RR>

You're welcome.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

If my math is right, there are 105 spots left open out of the original 480 available -- or 78% full at this point and it is still 3 months until Gencon (well actually just under 3 months).

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 left

[Rÿchean]

Thanks, Retlaw.

I am starting to have some real concerns about Heat of Battle and Big ol' Monster. I guess we still have months to go but I find the lack luster sales for those events disturbing, especially for Heat of Battle.

[Cleon]

Thanks, Retlaw.

I am starting to have some real concerns about Heat of Battle and Big ol' Monster. I guess we still have months to go but I find the lack luster sales for those events disturbing, especially for Heat of Battle.

People don't know what they're missing, Heat Of Battle is one of the best! Or, maybe it's just because that's an early event on Thursday and some people can only make the weekend?

[Dignan]

Or, maybe it's just because that's an early event on Thursday and some people can only make the weekend?

Exactly the reason I won't be playing in it. I don't get in until Thursday evening.

[Matthias Maccabeus]

Or, maybe it's just because that's an early event on Thursday and some people can only make the weekend?

Exactly the reason I won't be playing in it. I don't get in until Thursday evening.

It's probably better that way anyway. That way you don't have to lose to me until the championship on Friday morning. :p

[wdgrant]

Or, maybe it's just because that's an early event on Thursday and some people can only make the weekend?

Exactly the reason I won't be playing in it. I don't get in until Thursday evening.

I think Thursday does affect it. Some folks aren't there all 4 days, as you mention, and some people use that day to hit the dealer hall. I use Thursday's for demoing games and checking out stuff in the dealer hall, because there are fewer attendees than any other day.

[Mr Migraine]

Or, maybe it's just because that's an early event on Thursday and some people can only make the weekend?

Exactly the reason I won't be playing in it. I don't get in until Thursday evening.

I think Thursday does affect it. Some folks aren't there all 4 days, as you mention, and some people use that day to hit the dealer hall. I use Thursday's for demoing games and checking out stuff in the dealer hall, because there are fewer attendees than any other day.

That seems like a large reason. (Great use of fewer, too!) :thumbsup:

[bunjee]

Interestingly, I like the Big Ol Monster battle, and the idea of Heat of Battle (haven't played it yet) so I'm going with the Sunday and Thursday (respectively) being the greatest contributors to tickets sales on those events. So many people want to hit the dealer hall first thing Thursday morning that it is bound to impact sales.

[Taeblewalker]

I got the fiance to go!

Here are my games: Heat of Battle, Capture the Flag, Mixed Marvel, Gen Con Indy Heroscape Championship, War of the Worlds, General Wars, Big Ol' Monster Battle

Kathy's: Heat of Battle, Mixed Marvel, General Wars, Big Ol' Monster Battle

Hope to see you all there!

[Rÿchean]

Well my concerns are apparently unwarranted at this early stage as their has been some recent movement in ticket sales:

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/195/22 5/23 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 1513 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

[Drumline3469]

Getting ready to sign up for Championship Day 1 tomorrow as soon as I can drop off my tips at the bank.

[Mr Migraine]

Well my concerns are apparently unwarranted at this early stage as their has been some recent movement in ticket sales:

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/195/22 5/23 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 1513 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

Whoa! Day 2 of the Championship is already sold out! Darn....

;)

[Drumline3469]

Well my concerns are apparently unwarranted at this early stage as their has been some recent movement in ticket sales:

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/195/22 5/23 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 1513 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 left
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

Whoa! Day 2 of the Championship is already sold out! Darn....

;)

I think he just canceled day 2 when he heard I was coming. I mean, there really isn't a reason for anyone else to even try. ;)

[Aquaryan]

Oh, this is interesting....I just realized something funny. I will be in Indianapolis that very weekend for another conference. I was just going to post a message that I will be heading that way.

[Disposable Hero]

My Customs Are Coming!
Sorry about the title. When I tried to fix it, it was too late.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 1513 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

No really big changes since Rÿchean updated a couple of days ago.

I agree with other comments that Heat of the Battle is probably a "slow seller" due to being the early game on Thursday and a lot of people probably not getting in until later Thursday and also wanting to take the first day to look around. Also it has 64 spots available - tied for the most with Day 1 of the Championship tournament and General Wars, so it would be expected to take longer to sell out. The other events have 32 openings, so you would expect them to fill up faster.

Also, if you do a search of events on GENCON's site and use "Heroscape" as the key word, a new event is showing up now. Obviously it isn't one of the WotC/PastTimes/Heroscapers.com games, but I'll post the data here just for reference. The title/description is a little odd.

Game Code: KID0906271

Gaming Group/Company: Fantasy Aspirations

Title: Heaven and Hell

Description: Once there were three realms, heaven, hell, and earth. With Earth destroyed, the balance of power has shifted...until hell attacked heaven.

Event Type: KID - Kids Activities

Game System: Heroscape

Rules Edition: 1st

Minimum Number of Players: 2

Maximum Number of Players: 8

Minimum Age: Everyone (6+)

Experience Required: None (never played before)

Are materials provided?: Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own.

Start Date & Time: 08/15/2009 12:00:00 PM

Duration: 4 hours

Location: ICC : Family Fun Pavilion : 4

GM name(s): Stefan Blaeske

Web Address for More Information:

Email Address for More Information: ablaeske@comcast.net

Tournament: No, this is not a tournament.

Can players register for it?: Yes, you can register for this event without having played in any other events

Cost: $4.00

[Retlaw]

Changing subjects slightly.

Would it be permissible for one person to start a tournament and another person to finish it (same army, inherit their wins/losses, etc.)?

The reason I ask is that my son would like to play in the "General Wars" on Saturday, but won't be able to be in downtown Indy until after 4:00. I'd play the first game (or two) and then he would take over as soon as he got there and finish the tournament.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

No big changes from earlier in the week, but a couple more are close to selling out -- Smackdown and General Wars.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 left
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

No big changes from last week, but a couple are still close to selling out -- Smackdown and General Wars.

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 left
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

One more sold out this week, and "Smack Down" is going, going,...

For the math geeks -- out of the original 480 available game spots, there are 75 open spots or only 15.6% of the spots are left. And 30 of those spots are on Thursday, so if you aren't arriving until after Thursday, only 9.4% of the spots are available. In other words, don't wait too long or you may miss out.

[Aquaryan]

I decided to check to see on the map on how far I will be from the Gen Con. I will be 4 minutes away from this event. Hmmm I wonder if I can sneak over there ;) hehee

[Hahnarama]

I decided to check to see on the map on how far I will be from the Gen Con. I will be 4 minutes away from this event. Hmmm I wonder if I can sneak over there ;) hehee

Hell for $72 you can sneak in all you want.

[Taeblewalker]

But you have to use Phantom Walk.

[SuperflyTNT]

Phantom Walk or not...if you try to line jump me you WILL take a leaving engagement attack. :lol:

[Taeblewalker]

At least you're not Sir Denrick. ;)

[Aquaryan]

I will disguise myself ;)

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 6/19 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 17 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 9 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 4 left
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 6 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 left

One more sold out this week -- "Smack Down" -- and the championship is down the the last 4 spots.

For the math geeks -- out of the original 480 available game spots, there are 75 65 open spots or only 15.6% 13.5% of the spots are left. And 30 26 of those spots are on Thursday, so if you aren't arriving until after Thursday, only 9.4% 8.1% of the spots are available. In other words, don't wait too long or you may miss out.

[Mr Migraine]

Phantom Walk or not...if you try to line jump me you WILL take a leaving engagement attack. :lol:

Just teleport with TBR. That's the only way to get past those height 50 walls with a roof on top.

[Taeblewalker]

Phantom Walk or not...if you try to line jump me you WILL take a leaving engagement attack. :lol:

Just teleport with TBR. That's the only way to get past those height 50 walls with a roof on top.

If I take a wound from a leaving engagement strike, can I teleport in Onacara as a reinforcement?

[Mr Migraine]

Phantom Walk or not...if you try to line jump me you WILL take a leaving engagement attack. :lol:

Just teleport with TBR. That's the only way to get past those height 50 walls with a roof on top.

If I take a wound from a leaving engagement strike, can I teleport in Onacara as a reinforcement?

You don't need to, silly. He already bought a pass through the fortress door! ;)

[Myst9]

Where is GenCon? Is it always in the same place?

[Rÿchean]

Indianapolis, IN

[arp12]

Where is GenCon? Is it always in the same place?
Same place you are. Third planet from the sun.

[Retlaw]

Just a reminder:

Pre-Registration closes June 27th
On June 27th at 11:59 pm (Eastern), badge and event pre-registration will end. 6 more days to go! If you want to order your badge and sign up for events BEFORE you arrive onsite in August, be sure to make your purchases before RUBI closes its pre-registration doors!

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 6/19 6/22 6/23 6/24 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 17 15 11 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 4 sold out
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 12 10 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out (technically this sold out as soon as 16 players signed up for day 1)
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 6 4 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 14 13 left

One more sold out over the weekend -- "Championship 09" -- and Dragon Wars is down the the last 4 spots.

For the math geeks -- out of the original 480 available game spots, there are 75 65 53 52 46 open spots or only 15.6% 13.5% 11.0% 10.8% 9.6% of the spots are left. And 30 26 23 19 of those spots are on Thursday, so if you aren't arriving until after Thursday, only 9.4% 8.1% 6.25% 6.0% 5.6% of the spots are available. In other words, don't wait too long or you may miss out -- especially since pre-registration closes this Saturday!

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 6/19 6/22 6/23 6/24 6/26 Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 17 15 11 10 11 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 4 sold out
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 12 10 8 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 6 4 3 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 14 13 10 left

Time is running out -- registration closes at 11:59p EDT Saturday (5/27). ONLY 40 spots are left (8.3%)

[Retlaw]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 6/19 6/22 6/23 6/24 6/26 FINAL Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 17 15 11 10 11 8 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 4 sold out
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 12 10 8 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 6 4 3 1 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 14 13 10 7 left

Well, pre-registration is closed, so these are final counts until August when you can register for events on-site.

448 of the 480 spots are taken or a 93% full. Also, 1/2 of the empty spots (16) are on Thursday which is the day a lot of people are using for travel, etc. and wouldn't be able to sign-up for games. Of the remaining 16 (non-Thursday) open spots, 7 are on Sunday -- again a day people are traveling and wouldn't be able to sign up for games.

[Revdyer]

Retlaw; thank you for your solid work on this. I'd rep you again, but the system says we're too much in love already.

[Eirikr]

Sounds like a solid advance booking. How does this compare to previous years I wonder?

[Worseley]

That's great that it's sold out. Shame i didn't get into all the HS events that i really wanted to though.

Anyone know if they'll have those 1 hour heats like last year? I loved those little tourneys last year.

[Grungebob]

Yay! My event is sold out!!

[Harlax]

That's great that it's sold out. Shame i didn't get into all the HS events that i really wanted to though.

Anyone know if they'll have those 1 hour heats like last year? I loved those little tourneys last year.

No Damnation Alley this year if that is your question.

[Taeblewalker]

Don't forget all the scaping to be done in hotels. As long as everyone is there, set up tourneys as "formal" as you like with hour time limits, etc.

[Worseley]

That's great that it's sold out. Shame i didn't get into all the HS events that i really wanted to though.

Anyone know if they'll have those 1 hour heats like last year? I loved those little tourneys last year.

No Damnation Alley this year if that is your question.

Yeah, for some reason I thought they were called heats. Dang, I really like these too


Don't forget all the scaping to be done in hotels. As long as everyone is there, set up tourneys as "formal" as you like with hour time limits, etc.

Definitely!!! We really don't get to play very much and I'm definitely looking to get into the thick of some good gaming.

[Ellraiser]

4/28 4/30 5/4 5/6 5/8 5/13 5/19 5/22 5/23 5/26 5/29 6/5 6/12 6/19 6/22 6/23 6/24 6/26 FINAL Update:

Heat of Battle - 33 31 29 28 26 25 24 23 19 17 15 11 10 11 8 left
Smack Down - 14 12 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Capture the Flag - 23 21 18 16 15 13 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 left
Championship '09, Day 1 - 44 37 31 30 29 26 24 20 19 18 15 13 10 9 8 7 4 sold out
Lightweight Heroscape - 12 10 4 3 1 sold out
Mixed Marvel Heroscape - 19 18 16 15 13 12 10 8 left
Championship '09, Day 2 - sold out
War of the Worlds - 9 5 3 1 sold out 1 sold out
Dragon Wars - 22 21 18 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 6 4 3 1 left
General Wars - 31 27 19 18 15 16 14 12 10 9 7 5 4 2 sold out
Unique Hero Tournament -14 11 9 8 7 5 4 2 1 sold out
Big Ol' Monster Battle - 24 22 20 19 18 16 14 13 10 7 left

Well, pre-registration is closed, so these are final counts until August when you can register for events on-site.

448 of the 480 spots are taken or a 93% full. Also, 1/2 of the empty spots (16) are on Thursday which is the day a lot of people are using for travel, etc. and wouldn't be able to sign-up for games. Of the remaining 16 (non-Thursday) open spots, 7 are on Sunday -- again a day people are traveling and wouldn't be able to sign up for games.

What are the chances that someone can show up and get into any of these events??? I see that I chose to go to Gencon toooooo late and everything is sold out.

Ellraiser:twisted:

[Rÿchean]

For the the events with tickets remaining, the chances are very good because you can no longer buy tickets for those events until the Con opens.

For the Saturday events or the sold out events, I would say chances are not very good at all.

[Onacara]

I would also recommend that if you want to play in a SOLD OUT event, you prepare an army for that event and let everyone know you are interested as sometimes people drop out at the last minute or decided they want to hit the dealer hall or check out another game demo etc. *cough*sky*cough*

Be prepared to pay them for the ticket too.

[lafleurhero]

The strange thing is of all the events I signed up for clear back in April, only one is sold out. The other 3 still have at least 7 tickets left. Also the one that is sold out is the army I'm least sure about. I guess everyone is in fact scared to play against me.

[Revdyer]

The strange thing is of all the events I signed up for clear back in April, only one is sold out. The other 3 still have at least 7 tickets left. Also the one that is sold out is the army I'm least sure about. I guess everyone is in fact scared to play against me.It could be your very presence that is controlling this distribution. I don't think so; but wouldn't it be weird if everyone was avoiding your game skill?

[Taeblewalker]

The strange thing is of all the events I signed up for clear back in April, only one is sold out. The other 3 still have at least 7 tickets left. Also the one that is sold out is the army I'm least sure about. I guess everyone is in fact scared to play against me.It could be your very presence that is controlling this distribution. I don't think so; but wouldn't it be weird if everyone was avoiding your game skill?

Who hasn't heard of the dreaded Lafleurhero, Scourge of Valhalla?

[Eirikr]

Also, if you do a search of events on GENCON's site and use "Heroscape" as the key word, a new event is showing up now. Obviously it isn't one of the WotC/PastTimes/Heroscapers.com games, but I'll post the data here just for reference. The title/description is a little odd.

Game Code: KID0906271

Gaming Group/Company: Fantasy Aspirations

Title: Heaven and Hell

Description: Once there were three realms, heaven, hell, and earth. With Earth destroyed, the balance of power has shifted...until hell attacked heaven.

Event Type: KID - Kids Activities

Game System: Heroscape

Rules Edition: 1st

Minimum Number of Players: 2

Maximum Number of Players: 8

Minimum Age: Everyone (6+)

Experience Required: None (never played before)

Are materials provided?: Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own.

Start Date & Time: 08/15/2009 12:00:00 PM

Duration: 4 hours

Location: ICC : Family Fun Pavilion : 4

GM name(s): Stefan Blaeske

Web Address for More Information:

Email Address for More Information: ablaeske@comcast.net

Tournament: No, this is not a tournament.

Can players register for it?: Yes, you can register for this event without having played in any other events

Cost: $4.00
Just curious if anyone has any more information about this event.

[bunjee]

I don't believe it is put on by any of the board members. Your best bet will be to contact the GM at the email in the event listing.

[Aquaryan]

I saw some people from the GenCon at the hotel that I was staying at. I was not able to sneak a peek at the event. I did ask them if they knew about the game. They responded, "Heard of it..never played it!"

[Jexik]

Not sure where I should post this, but I had a blast again at GenCon. Here are my thoughts on the events I played.

Heat of Battle: I may be biased because I did well in this one, but I think it's a truly wonderful event that should be there every year in some capacity. It adds an extra level of metagaming and army-building which I really appreciate. Watching the Romans, Samurai, and Ne-Gok-Sa run around and win games is also fun.

Capture the Flag: This was also a fun event. Many players complain that Heroscape's strategy might be a little less interesting than some other games, but between controlling the high points on the map, powerful glyphs and adding an additional victory condition in the flag to defend, this one had a nice multi-layered feel to it. :up:

Main Event: I say keep it the same. We need to have at least one event that just lets people play whatever they want without too many restrictions. The day 2 addition idea added a neat twist.

General Wars: this one was fun and is always popular. Someone suggested moving it to Thursday and swapping it with HoB. That's probably not a bad idea to keep them both full.

Unique Hero/BoMB: Meh. Not really my style, but people seemed to enjoy it. I might suggest two things: making the rounds shorter... and making it Swiss. Getting knocked out of a tournament because someone rolls a 16 on bolt of witherwood? If that means putting it on a different day, so be it.

[Rÿchean]

Thanks for the feedback, Jexik. As always, we want to offer a package of events that fit a variety of play styles and demographics. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.

[Retlaw]

I agree with Jexik on something besides single elimination on the BoMB games. I know the Sunday games are single elimination so there is time to get all the maps picked up and packed so people aren't there until 5:00 (or later) on Sunday -- of course as we learned if we get done before 4:00 it doesn't matter.

Maybe the Sunday games could be double elimination -- at least everyone would get a minimum of two games for their entry fee. A 32 person double elimination would have to go 7 rounds (possible 8 ), so the rounds would have to be 45 minutes long maximum to get done in 5 hours (assume start at 10:00a be done by 3:15p with provison for possible 8th round game if needed and be out by 4:00p).

Or maybe even simpler -- guarentee two games, but after the 2nd round, if you have a loss and you are out. So, in a 32 person tournament, the 16 losers in the first round would be paired for the second round and get to play a second game, but none of them would advance to the third round (win or lose) -- only players 2-0 advance to the third round. Just some ideas.

One more item -- get rid of byes :p. In the four tournaments I played in, I had a bye in each one of them. Of course it did help my win/loss record. ;) But what are the odds of the same person getting 4 byes in 4 different tournaments?

[Taeblewalker]

Two games would be nice, and if we break it down as efficiently as this year, it should still be done on time. As for BomB, perhaps we can ban Atlaga from that tournament? ;)
Otherwise, another scenario like Accursed Ground (or whatever it was from last year) would be harder to autowin.

[killercactus]

Two games would be nice, and if we break it down as efficiently as this year, it should still be done on time. As for BomB, perhaps we can ban Atlaga from that tournament? ;)
Otherwise, another scenario like Accursed Ground (or whatever it was from last year) would be harder to autowin.

Ban Atlaga? What about Sudema? I bet no one even played her, and she can do what Atlaga can every turn.

[Taeblewalker]

Two games would be nice, and if we break it down as efficiently as this year, it should still be done on time. As for BomB, perhaps we can ban Atlaga from that tournament? ;)
Otherwise, another scenario like Accursed Ground (or whatever it was from last year) would be harder to autowin.

Ban Atlaga? What about Sudema? I bet no one even played her, and she can do what Atlaga can every turn.

True, though she is harder to fly out there (since she doesn't fly), and she dies more easily, but you have a point.

[Eirikr]

Just wanted to say thanks to all involved in creating another great heroScape experience for us all at GenCon this year. I really enjoyed the events I was in and while I'm glad I didn't play in as many this year as last I think I should have signed up for at least 1 more event.
For future consideration I really missed the win-a-wave events. I would love to see something similar again in the future.
I would also love to see a true Marvel tournament. I realize it's not practical to set up Marvel maps for one tournament and that's fine but I still think you could go a long way to making a more Marvel friendly tournament. My idea is simple; 800 point armies with only 12 start zone spaces. This should encourage the use of more Marvel heros as well as other tough guys from the classic heroScape universe. Also should be quick games even with the higher points.
Just my thoughts.
Thanks again and I hope to see you all again next year.

[southwest ninja]

they would like to have the win a wave events again next year, just not as frequent as they were last year.

[Rÿchean]

they would like to have the win a wave events again next year, just not as frequent as they were last year.
Count on it...but less variant events overall. Less is more and I think we have reached the point where we have to go back to less to sustain the value and enjoyment of being in an event at GenCon.

[stubobj]

Capture the Flag was by far my favorite event. I enjoyed playing HoB and War of the Worlds but as Jexik pointed out having that alternate win condition adds a little something to think about.

[Eirikr]

they would like to have the win a wave events again next year, just not as frequent as they were last year.
Count on it...but less variant events overall. Less is more and I think we have reached the point where we have to go back to less to sustain the value and enjoyment of being in an event at GenCon.

The mighty dollar has been driving the sheer number of events, cramped quarters, and tight schedule. Heroscapers ran events in 2006 and 2007 to break even; Pastimes runs events for profit.
So, was Pastimes happy with the event this year. Did they make the profit they wanted.
I hope so as I would hate to see heroScape dropped from the roster at GenCon next year.

[Harlax]

they would like to have the win a wave events again next year, just not as frequent as they were last year.
Count on it...but less variant events overall. Less is more and I think we have reached the point where we have to go back to less to sustain the value and enjoyment of being in an event at GenCon.

The mighty dollar has been driving the sheer number of events, cramped quarters, and tight schedule. Heroscapers ran events in 2006 and 2007 to break even; Pastimes runs events for profit.
So, was Pastimes happy with the event this year. Did they make the profit they wanted.
I hope so as I would hate to see heroScape dropped from the roster at GenCon next year.

Hmmm, if I read Rychean correctly, the question is not whether Pastimes drops Heroscape but rather whether we drop Pastimes.

[Retlaw]

they would like to have the win a wave events again next year, just not as frequent as they were last year.
Count on it...but less variant events overall. Less is more and I think we have reached the point where we have to go back to less to sustain the value and enjoyment of being in an event at GenCon.

The mighty dollar has been driving the sheer number of events, cramped quarters, and tight schedule. Heroscapers ran events in 2006 and 2007 to break even; Pastimes runs events for profit.
So, was Pastimes happy with the event this year. Did they make the profit they wanted.
I hope so as I would hate to see heroScape dropped from the roster at GenCon next year.

I can pretty much assure you that Heroscape will be back next year.

If not, I have a boat load of terrain... :D

[Eirikr]

Well I suspect that if pastimes wants to host heroScape they will get all the prize support etc. so it is not really up to the good folks who do all the real work to drop them or not. I may be mistaken but I remember something to that effect last year.
In any case I am still curious how things ended up financially.
Curious I guess.

[Harlax]

Assuming there is no promotional figure again, then only a handful of folks get prizes. Most play for love of the game.

[Rÿchean]

As far as who runs the events next year, I am not sure what will happen, I just know a lot has to change and on many fronts.

In any case I am still curious how things ended up financially.
Curious I guess.
Attendance was generally down for all events. Even the events that sold out were not full at the start of the event, save for maybe the Championship though I saw some open maps in the first round. If the final tournament standings we were provided are correct, then none of the events were sold out by start time. I am positive Pastimes still made money though.

[Eirikr]

Thanks again Rychean, and thanks to all those involved. I hope you all had fun this year as I did. I know you all put a lot of time and effort into this and regardless of Pastimes and profits it is all for naught if you did not enjoy yourselves. I would never have even experienced GenCon if not for the efforts of you all and for that I am truly greatful.

I am wondering what kinds of changes you are referring to but I doubt that is the kind of information you are interested in sharing. Good luck in resolving those issues and I hope to see you again next year.

[bunjee]

I only signed up for two events as there is sooooo much at Gencon I like to keep my options open.
I enjoyed Capture the flag and regret mis-reading the time and thinking that I had to leave early. Even though I was 1-2 at the point I left, I would have played it out for the fun.
I also really enjoy the Unique Hero event (says the 2nd place finisher) and agree that it should shift to a day when it can be run swiss. It and Big Ol' Monster really do hurt when another player insta-kills one of your prime units through a lucky d-20 roll.

[Harlax]

I also really enjoy the Unique Hero event (says the 2nd place finisher) and agree that it should shift to a day when it can be run swiss. It and Big Ol' Monster really do hurt when another player insta-kills one of your prime units through a lucky d-20 roll.

True for Dragon Wars as well.

[Rÿchean]

We will keep that in mind, guys. Thanks for the feedback.

Also, since tear down went so smooth, I think we can have at least one Swiss event on Sunday, depending on the lineup we select for next year.

[EternalThanos86]

I also really enjoy the Unique Hero event (says the 2nd place finisher) and agree that it should shift to a day when it can be run swiss. It and Big Ol' Monster really do hurt when another player insta-kills one of your prime units through a lucky d-20 roll.

True for Dragon Wars as well.


I don't know who in the world would go for an instant kill?!? Especially against a young kid the first turn of the first round, that would just be mean...
:runaway:

[Rÿchean]

So long as you play them again for fun.

I won my first game of BOM on marker 2 with Sujoah. We instantly played again.

[Harlax]

I also really enjoy the Unique Hero event (says the 2nd place finisher) and agree that it should shift to a day when it can be run swiss. It and Big Ol' Monster really do hurt when another player insta-kills one of your prime units through a lucky d-20 roll.

True for Dragon Wars as well.


I don't know who in the world would go for an instant kill?!? Especially against a young kid the first turn of the first round, that would just be mean...
:runaway:

Well, how about an instant kill by a young kid on the second turn of the first round. That would just be embarrassing...

:oops:

(Though I'd do it again, trade a shot of witherwood for the chance to put four dwarves on his Mimring.)

[Taeblewalker]

(Though I'd do it again, trade a shot of witherwind for the chance to put four dwarves on his Mimring.)

Witherwind, eh? Now that would be an interesting addtion to the game! ;)

All in all, I had fun, and I am sure that with the lessons learned from this year, next year's events and how they are scheduled or made swiss/elimination, etc., will be even better.

[bunjee]

I lost my sheet of notes, which one of you was it that did the victory dance over Witherwood?

[Retlaw]

So long as you play them again for fun.

I won my first game of BOM on marker 2 with Sujoah. We instantly played again.

Yep -- Vincent and I did that. It was War of the Worlds and my two dragons got good rolls and wiped out his army fairly quickly. So, we set up and played a second game for fun; the second one lasted longer and he won it.

[Jexik]

I lost my sheet of notes, which one of you was it that did the victory dance over Witherwood?

I don't know if more than one person did it, but I know that I heard/saw, EternalThanos86 do it after he got his second in a row.

[Rÿchean]

OK so now that it is over, how does everyone feel about the reinforcement for Day 2. Good? Bad?

The initial concern was that players would be pigeon holed into taking these x numbers of units for whatever threshold, that didn’t seem to happen too much.

I think it was a nice addition. I would love to hear some feedback and suggestions for next year.

[Matthias Maccabeus]

I thought it was very cool. In fact I changed up my original plan of an extra squad of heavies to Swog + Nerak to try and counter Spider's 'trons a bit. I bet Cornpuff did the same with 2x Repulsors against Gamjuven's 'trons. I think it's neat because there's a little bit of "counterdrafting" going on.

[lonewolf]

OK so now that it is over, how does everyone feel about the reinforcement for Day 2. Good? Bad?

The initial concern was that players would be pigeon holed into taking these x numbers of units for whatever threshold, that didn’t seem to happen too much.

I think it was a nice addition. I would love to hear some feedback and suggestions for next year.

I wasn't there, but I like the idea. Yes, Corn Puff counterdrafted Gamjuven, but if I was Gamjuven, I would have anticipated the Repulsors because he had plenty of spaces left in his start zone and counterdrafted something to handle the Repulsors....maybe someone like Johnny to blast the Repulsors.

I also think that the results for the tournament could have been significantly different if you had rolled a shield or blank which is an added bonus of randomness!

[Rÿchean]

I thought it was very cool. In fact I changed up my original plan of an extra squad of heavies to Swog + Nerak to try and counter Spider's 'trons a bit. I bet Cornpuff did the same with 2x Repulsors against Gamjuven's 'trons. I think it's neat because there's a little bit of "counterdrafting" going on.

I agree there was some counter drafting and I like that. James Murphy wasn’t there by complete accident for my first round match, though I think he would have been there even if I wasn’t facing Romans. Meh, maybe not; if I knew I was facing a heavy agent army or Cornpuff in round 1, I may well have added DED instead.

[Taeblewalker]

I like the addition of the points on day 2. I never got to use it at GenCon, but we used the same rules at Islandscape II (Long Island), and it was a lot of fun.

[LongHeroscaper]

I wasn't there but I love the idea as well. It requires careful planning, but it also provides the chance to adjust an army on the fly. I also love what spider did: deliberately left out 50 points in day 1 to plan for day 2.
In general, I love the idea! :)

[MattserTruckRally]

I liked it to. The challenge of building a competitive army for day 1 along with trying to give yourself good options for day 2 depending upon what was rolled. The sideboarding aspect was rather neat and I even considered adding Zetacron, Marcu myself as Zetacron could've dealt some early wounds on Clarrissmus's Braxas.

It'd be fun to run a tournament as well where you could start with a lower point total like lets say 425 and have two reinforcements periods (one after round 2, and one after round 4).

[Nwojedi]

the added points was indeed nice. Still tough to do when you have limited hexes. Made for careful planning.

[Revdyer]

I'm just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

[Onacara]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400

[southwest ninja]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400
sign me up for that one!

[killercactus]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400
sign me up for that one!

I like this a lot too. Terry, I think we should do this in NE Ohio soon. Maybe not for NHSD, but soon.

[dok]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400
sign me up for that one!

Would the round 3 army have to strip 50 from the round 2 army, or would it be able to strip 100 from the round 1 army (i.e. include something missing in round 2)?

If it's the former, then multiple reductions like this would really limit army builds. I'd expect to see lots of expensive heroes surrounded by cheap commons that are slowly stripped away.

[Revdyer]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400
sign me up for that one!

Would the round 3 army have to strip 50 from the round 2 army, or would it be able to strip 100 from the round 1 army (i.e. include something missing in round 2)?

If it's the former, then multiple reductions like this would really limit army builds. I'd expect to see lots of expensive heroes surrounded by cheap commons that are slowly stripped away.<laughing and laughing> At this point, that kind of micro-strategy about a possible future event is just funny.

[Harlax]

I just waiting for the day two to be fewer points than day one, and you have to see what you are willing throw away. (Not as the main event, but maybe an auxiliary one.)

Brilliant...

Perhaps not even a second day but a round by round...

Example

Round 1 600
Round 2 550
Round 3 500
Round 4 450
Round 5 400
sign me up for that one!

Would the round 3 army have to strip 50 from the round 2 army, or would it be able to strip 100 from the round 1 army (i.e. include something missing in round 2)?

If it's the former, then multiple reductions like this would really limit army builds. I'd expect to see lots of expensive heroes surrounded by cheap commons that are slowly stripped away.

Stingers and rats. 60 and 40. As if we don't see enough of them already.

[Eirikr]

I thought the reinforcements was an excellent idea. It really changed the way we had to think about our initial army with consideration for day 2 including startzone spaces occupied on day 1 and which figs to leave off the table and wait for day 2 etc. Also, having the opportunity to do a little counterdrafting at the beginning of day 2 was a nice addition. Unfortunately I didn't make it to day 2 but even so it added a lot of depth to our discussions and army building leading up to the event.
Excellent job, and thanks again.

[Cleon]

Reinforcements were a cool thing to mix it up. It makes a 500pt. tourney unique, for the Day 2 players (and in the plannings for everyone's armies).

:thumbsup:

[gamjuven]

Reinforcements were a cool thing to mix it up. It makes a 500pt. tourney unique, for the Day 2 players (and in the plannings for everyone's armies).

:thumbsup:

It does make it interesting, although it does allow someone to pick reinforcements to counterdraft the army you will be facing in day 2. Props to Cornpuff for doing it but he never played with the repulsors before and chose them to counter my glad/blast army. I had originally thought you had to submit your day 1 and day 2 armies when you registered. Cornpuff got to choose whatever he wanted and chose to specifically get a unit to beat mine.

Props to Cornpuff for a brilliant counterdraft but it's annoying on my end that my opponent got to just pick any unit they wanted to specifically go against me even though that army would have never run repulsors otherwise.

[Eirikr]

Reinforcements were a cool thing to mix it up. It makes a 500pt. tourney unique, for the Day 2 players (and in the plannings for everyone's armies).

:thumbsup:

It does make it interesting, although it does allow someone to pick reinforcements to counterdraft the army you will be facing in day 2. Props to Cornpuff for doing it but he never played with the repulsors before and chose them to counter my glad/blast army. I had originally thought you had to submit your day 1 and day 2 armies when you registered. Cornpuff got to choose whatever he wanted and chose to specifically get a unit to beat mine.

Props to Cornpuff for a brilliant counterdraft but it's annoying on my end that my opponent got to just pick any unit they wanted to specifically go against me even though that army would have never run repulsors otherwise.
But that is the entire point. You had the very same opportunity. The reinforcements added the element of counterdraft to the game which was cool. At least that's my opinion. It certainly was not unfair which the tone of your post suggests.
I would love to see this again in the future.

[Retlaw]

I didn't make it to day 2, but I do like the idea. For our "home" game nights (usually 3v3 teams) the drafting can take up to an hour with all the strategies within teams and the counter-drafts. The draft is a fun part of the game. I know it isn't practical to try to draft at tournaments, so we have the "pre-made" armies. But the reinforcements puts a little bit of the draft back into the tournament scene.

Also, the suggestion of a decreasing point army for each round sounds interesting.

[killercactus]

Just because Rev is laughing about that level of strategy... here's an army for the point reduction tournament suggested above (assuming that, whatever you leave out for Round 2 has to stay out for Round 3):

Round 1:

Marcus - 100
Ne-Gok-Sa - 190
Airborne Elite - 300
Roman Legoinnaires x4 - 500
Me-Burq-Sa - 550
Brave Arrow / Arkmer - 600, 25 hexes

Round 2: Drop Brave Arrow / Arkmer
Round 3: Drop Romans x1
Round 4: Drop MBS
Round 5: Drop Romans x1

I think that army still looks pretty good at each round. If one could make it to Round 5 undefeated, I really like the chances for Marcus, NGS, AE, Romans x2

[Gulp]

I didn't want to start a new thread just for a simple question, so I res'd this one.

How many points were the 2008 and 2009 GenCon championships? Were they both 520?

Thanks

[Cleon]

I didn't want to start a new thread just for a simple question, so I res'd this one.

How many points were the 2008 and 2009 GenCon championships? Were they both 520?

Thanks

2006 - 400pt.
2007 - 500pt.
2008 - 520pt.
2009 - 500pt. +75pt./100pt./140pt.