View Full Version : Strategies for killing Braxas?
MBSowards
August 25th, 2006, 12:17 AM
My friend at me alive in a game just now using only Braxas. Nothing I did mattered in the game, because Braxas with her wonderful 8 lives and her wonderful poison death destroyed everything I had.
How do I take down the beast?
feekonea
August 25th, 2006, 12:23 AM
range and/or large or huge heros, she doesnt do too well if her poinsonus acid breath cant work.
Tiberius
August 25th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Right on, even medium unique heroes have a chance though it is risky. The only time i faced off against her, I used morsbane to nullify her (but that 5 attack and 8 life are still a factor) and then Jotun went to work. 8 attack against 3 def works great. Though I suspect other cheaper units like Carr or Drake would work well.
Naiko
August 25th, 2006, 01:37 AM
I just played a game against her as well. My friend destroyed 8 of my units before I even touched any of his. I finally got tired of getting destroyed and got lucky with Morbane and rolled a 20 :lol: After she was gone the rest of his army was easy, as he had spent alot of points on her. The fact that I nullified his Ogre before he even moved him helped a bit too, lol.
Tiberius
August 25th, 2006, 01:39 AM
Nice, I love it when stuff like that happens. Ne-Gok-Sa is probalby my favorite hero and when he actually works, it is a game changing event. Morsbane is similar only you dont get to keep the figure.
feekonea
August 25th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Ya I love those game changingsituations, very exciting.
Oprime
August 25th, 2006, 09:27 AM
I find shes easier to defend against in large point battles.
I tried to use her as the aggressor in a huge 2000 apeice game and although she took out like 5 minute men and 3 drones she was quickly over whelmed.
Part of this may be that I rushed her in too deep :cry: but still she didn't last that long.
Conversly in small point games like 400, she owns.
netherspirit
August 25th, 2006, 09:28 AM
I have found it best to roll more skulls than she does shields. Kills her everytime.
happyjosiah
August 25th, 2006, 09:37 AM
I have found it best to roll more skulls than she does shields. Kills her everytime.
Su-Bak-Na attacking her on height or Jotun on even ground will kill her in one turn .0011% of the time.... so... ya know... slightly better than one in a thousand. (The odds of rolling 8/8 skulls at the exact time 0/3 shields are rolled)
feekonea
August 25th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Wow, those last 2 posts by nether and happy J were hilarious.
Pyschro
August 25th, 2006, 11:32 AM
I had this problem in the last game I played. I started off the match by moving some squads to high ground and my friend ate them alive with Braxas. I thought this match was completely over, but I ended up taking out Braxas with a combo Jotun and Raelin. Though he did roll an 18, which took out Raelin, I ended up steam rolling Braxas and the rest of his amy just with Jotun. But, yeah Braxas against a majority squad based army has almost been a complete massacre in my experiences. This has caused some of the newer people I try to get into the game to be less than excited with the game than I hoped they would be, so we tend to stay away from him in those occasions or give Braxas to the newbies of the group.
Bobbo
August 25th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Conversly in small point games like 400, she owns.
We sometimes play that you can't spend over 50% of your points on one figure.
This rule was added after someone got tired of losing to Charos in a 400 point game one too many times :)
MBSowards
August 25th, 2006, 12:06 PM
I have found it best to roll more skulls than she does shields. Kills her everytime.
Thanks, nether, I'll try to put that strategy to use.
reapersaurus
August 25th, 2006, 01:10 PM
How do I take down the beast?Gee, I don't know - how bout SHOOT AT HER, or play Large figures. :lol:
Heck, I love the concept of high-costed heroes (there should be NO restrictions against them, if they are balanced which they all have been so far) but they go down easy to squads, especially ranged.
Marrden Hounds, Wolves, and any significant ranged squad (Marro Warriors, 4th Mass, AE, Blastatrons, etc) or ranged hero even (Q9) will take her down with almost-guaranteed point advantage.
Mystyc
August 26th, 2006, 11:43 PM
Marrden Hounds, Wolves, and any significant ranged squad (Marro Warriors, 4th Mass, AE, Blastatrons, etc) or ranged hero even (Q9) will take her down with almost-guaranteed point advantage.
I'm not sure about that. Only the Hounds are immune to the Acid Breath attack. I'd bet Braxas holds 50/50 against equal points of the other squads. My experience with the Blastatrons isn't the greatest, though, so perhaps they would be able to stand up to her.
On topic, I would just recommend activating your Breath-resistant troops earlier. Moving squads to higher ground in the early going is far less tactically sounds against Braxas than in any other battle. You should be looking to take her down early with the units that can best survive her so that she doesn't overpower your vulnerable units later.
feekonea
August 26th, 2006, 11:46 PM
You can actually ask Oog about this one. :wink:
Riggler
August 27th, 2006, 05:40 PM
I find shes easier to defend against in large point battles.
I tried to use her as the aggressor in a huge 2000 apeice game and although she took out like 5 minute men and 3 drones she was quickly over whelmed.
Part of this may be that I rushed her in too deep :cry: but still she didn't last that long.
Conversly in small point games like 400, she owns.
That's odd, I would think just the opposite. I've played Braxas several times in games where the point value was between 600 and 900. I've not lost with her in my army. I've pondered whether HS was meant to be played with larger armies because its easier to accomodate a support cast for Braxas. IMO, Braxas with the right support is near invincible.
And another item I want to address about those who comment about some great counters to Braxas, such as range and larger figures ... we play draft games a lot... if I'm playing a draft game I pick Braxas last. It doesn't allow for a counter unless my opponent ALWAYS drafts against Braxas.
reapersaurus
August 27th, 2006, 11:04 PM
if I'm playing a draft game I pick Braxas last. It doesn't allow for a counter unless my opponent ALWAYS drafts against Braxas.ehhhhhhhhhh.. nope.
By definition, you must assume that your opponent will have approximately 210 points left when advocating this strategy.
Therefore, the counters to Braxas do not take 210 points worth, so that strategy is not likely to succeed.
But nobody's mentioned that before, so that was a new idea.... :idea:
Heck Q9 is probably the simplest counter to Braxas, and he's cheaper so the opponent would likely have those points left.
Now, if you're saying that you draft Braxas in the rare circumstance when your opponent has drafted big guys first, and you've drafted small stuff and have 210 points left and he has 40 points left - yeah, that would be fine.
But that isn;t a standard case, nor can it be expected to be common when advocating draft strategies.
NFCfan
March 1st, 2008, 04:38 PM
mass cheap common squads are a good counter. Braxas likely won't kill enough before going down
NecroBlade
March 1st, 2008, 04:43 PM
Where do you people keep finding these year-and-a-half old threads?! :roll:
At least have something extremely important to say if you're going to necro. :?
NFCfan
March 1st, 2008, 05:29 PM
boards about killing Braxas arrive on a semi regular basis, best solution is to keep them within the original thread as opposed to making 6 about the same thing, right?
NecroBlade
March 1st, 2008, 06:08 PM
a) You didn't add anything that hasn't already been said to the discussion.
2) You could say that in the Book of Braxas without bringing back an old thread.
d) Now that we have the Books, discussions like this should take place there, instead of all new threads all the time.
5) All you've managed to do is bring back something old to the front page where people like to look for new news.
g) Yes, it's best if information is kept in the same thread (hence the Books), but since no one was asking any questions about Braxas, why did you bring this back? :roll:
NFCfan
March 1st, 2008, 07:08 PM
you are wrong though, basically everyone else on this thread advised to use acid resistant figures to kill Braxas whereas my suggestion of using cheap squad figures is definitely adding a new strategy to this thread
also this isn't a new thread like you say in d but one previously created
NecroBlade
March 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM
It has been said in the Book, though (imagine that?), which is where you could've put it (and probably where you found this thread in the first place).
NFCfan
March 1st, 2008, 08:16 PM
actually I went straight to this board as opposed to entering it through the book.
Pretend someone wants to know how to kill Braxas and which figures have the best synergy with her. I'd rather read about specifically dedicated boards about each topic as opposed to every post being in the Braxas book most of which are irrelvant for what I want to know
rdhight
March 1st, 2008, 08:57 PM
actually I went straight to this board as opposed to entering it through the book.
Pretend someone wants to know how to kill Braxas and which figures have the best synergy with her. I'd rather read about specifically dedicated boards about each topic as opposed to every post being in the Braxas book most of which are irrelvant for what I want to know
Oh, I see. You didn't want to post your suggestion in the Book of Braxas. Well, that's different then.
NecroBlade
March 1st, 2008, 09:07 PM
You don't seem to understand the concept of the Books...
NFCfan
March 1st, 2008, 09:41 PM
we just disagree about the purpose of the books.
Having 1 gigantic board with 10+ pages to navigate anytime anyone wants to know anything does not seem productive. For Braxas killing strategies I'd rather go to the thread that contains it as opposed to reading through 7 pages hoping that buried within is something related
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