View Full Version : Best use of Cash toward Heroscape.
zanter
July 24th, 2008, 07:34 PM
In "honor" of my 1400th post, i am re-creating my first thread with a lot more thought and grammar. (Look in my post list, i'm not pulling that crap back out.)
You have $40, what will you do with it? Buy plastic! But what KIND of plastic? Heroscape. So, what sets do you buy?
(This will assume that small expansions are $10.)
1) Buy an entire wave.
Pros:This is a good idea if you have waves prior to this one, you instantly get all the new stuff in one buy.
Cons: there is a lower chance that you will get units that you need to fit in that army, or link with that hero, ect. No multiple commons. Tiles, and the Lack of them.
2) Buy four small expansions.
Pros: You can get sets that work well with each other, get multiple commons.
Cons: Makes buying whole waves that include hero sets you just bought slightly harder down the road. Hardly any tiles.
3) Buy a master set.
Pros: Lots of tiles, nice ammount of units.
Cons: Units, if your a decent player, you allready have all those guys, Meh, guess you can repaint 'em.
Rulebooks/dice/order markers/ETC,Enough said.
4) Buy two large expansions. (One terrain and one large figure pack will be assumed.)
Pros: More tiles! Nice powerful figures.
Cons: Figures might need others you don't own to really use to full power.
5) Buy one large and two small.
Pros: You can pick smalls that work nicely with the large figures. You get a lot of new units.
Cons: Only 4 tiles. Woo hoo!
6) Buy a castle set and a single small set.
Pros: Castle is very fun to build maps arround. You get figures.
Cons: While fun to use, the castle is hard to build a good map with.
Hardly any figures.
~Z~
EDIT: Ironic, I'm recreating this becuse I think i've shaped up quality-wise, and I proceed to make a fleet of spelling errors, hope I got them all fixed.
scottishlad5
July 24th, 2008, 07:39 PM
Master set, well that may just be my craving.
cosmosis
July 24th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Cool idea.
Under the current circumstances, I would vote for buy TWO master sets on clearance, since they are bound to fall to ~$20 @ Targert (some already have) and at TRU as well.
If you are new to the game, then a Master Set would win, regardless of if it is at MSRP $40 or discounted, since it's got the full package and everything.
To a player who already has both master sets, I would say either 4 small expansions (this choice always beats a full wave, since a full wave IS 4 small expansions, but is a restricted choice), or a terrain/large set with 2 small expansions, depending on needs.
I always find the master set to be best bang for the buck, with terrain sets in 2nd, but figures are what the game is based on, so they make up for their lack of plastic in miniature action.
All in all, it's really up to the buyer and his/her current needs/progression in collection.
After all, "best use of cash" is a opinionated "best" and "use of cash" has to do with value, which really is in the eye of the beholder here.
Soul Shackle
July 24th, 2008, 08:09 PM
In honor of your 1,400th post?
Come on, Z.
:p
Dark Lord o' THIRST
July 24th, 2008, 08:35 PM
For me right now it would be a large terrain set and two small expansions.
Gulp
July 24th, 2008, 08:40 PM
How many master sets do you have to start with?
zanter
July 24th, 2008, 08:40 PM
In honor of your 1,400th post?
Come on, Z.
:p "Mumble"
In honor of me learning to use a fourm decently in contrast to my first few hundred??
:backpedal:
Personaly, i'd go for the large set with the two small sets.
~Z~
Dark Lord o' THIRST
July 24th, 2008, 08:56 PM
I have one of each master set (including Marvel), two (come this weekend) RttFF, and tiles from my various small sets. I would buy the Nakita set, Wave six hero set, and the Ticalla Jungle.
zanter
July 24th, 2008, 09:04 PM
How many master sets do you have to start with? Who was this addressed to?
Personally, I have one of each, but this poll isn't to address my buying questions that keep me up at night, it's just a discussion.
~Z~
Sphere
July 24th, 2008, 10:12 PM
I think the hands-down best first purchase for anybody is Return of the Valkyrie. Even at full price.
Once you've got that, I'd go for Swarm of the Marro, because with two master sets you've got a lot of terrain to work with, and a lot of maps that you don't have to download. Plus, you get some common squads that come in pairs.
At that point, you've got many more heroes than squads, so I think buying common squads is the next step. I'd say always buy at least two of any common, because they are simply too weak individually.
Once a person has that much, they are obviously hooked, and not likely to need further advice. Individual preference and play style, combined with availability, will dictate further purchases.
(Good ideas in your initial post, Zanter!)
Dark Lord o' THIRST
July 24th, 2008, 10:22 PM
After I had the three Master sets (got 'em all for Christmas!), my first expansions were the Q9 and 4th Mass sets. I have not yet bought more than one of any common pack.
jousha
July 24th, 2008, 10:25 PM
I'm aching for some more terrain variations, so I chose Two Large Sets. Though you say it's one terrain and one large figures, I'll stick with one TT and one VW because I have neither.
cosmosis
July 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM
I think the hands-down best first purchase for anybody is Return of the Valkyrie. Even at full price.
Once you've got that, I'd go for Swarm of the Marro, because with two master sets you've got a lot of terrain to work with, and a lot of maps that you don't have to download. Plus, you get some common squads that come in pairs.
At that point, you've got many more heroes than squads, so I think buying common squads is the next step. I'd say always buy at least two of any common, because they are simply too weak individually.
Once a person has that much, they are obviously hooked, and not likely to need further advice. Individual preference and play style, combined with availability, will dictate further purchases.
(Good ideas in your initial post, Zanter!)
Well thought out. I agree completely! It's how I would've approached it if I had started post-SOTM, but no I started around Wave 5 or 6.
southwest ninja
July 24th, 2008, 11:02 PM
At this rate i would buy 4 master sets for 40 bucks......
kr-zeronos
July 24th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Large terrain pack and 2 smalls. Yes!
Gulp
July 25th, 2008, 12:51 PM
How many master sets do you have to start with? Who was this addressed to?
Personally, I have one of each, but this poll isn't to address my buying questions that keep me up at night, it's just a discussion.
~Z~
Ahh... I thought you were looking for advice. So much for hasty readings and responses.
Unless I've continued to misunderstand then we are assuming that the lucky dude holding $40 already has a master set. If not, then this thread is a bit silly.
KrugKiller
July 25th, 2008, 01:02 PM
I'd buy four different small expansions and try to fill in where I need doubles. I have enought Masters, large expansions and castles.
Dennys
July 25th, 2008, 01:06 PM
$40.00 what to buy?
If you're married to a NON Scaper -
1 Expansion and a dozen roses....or some chocolates... or a bottle of perfume/cologne as appropriate.
ChocoVanilla
July 25th, 2008, 09:21 PM
I'd like a wave with $40...but i seriously wonder if that's enough now for say wave 3 or 4 (I have waves 5 and on but none b4...sighs)
Onacara
July 25th, 2008, 09:29 PM
Once again people are posting based off of things not in the original post.
Please read the first post again before responding as Zanter has clearly laid out the parameters of what you can get with the $40 in his scenario.
This is turning into the same thing as every thread where someone asks for army help and people build them an army using figures they dont have when they clearly said what they have to work with.
Zanter...I can definitely see an improvement in your posting and do appreciate the effort you have made. +rep to you for that and a well thought out thread discussion.
Gulp
July 25th, 2008, 09:43 PM
Once again people are posting based off of things not in the original post.
Please read the first post again before responding as Zanter has clearly laid out the parameters of what you can get with the $40 in his scenario.
I just reread the first post and I'm still not sure if we're supposed to assume he has a basic set of some kind. If he is starting with zero Heroscape and he gets $40, then he pretty much has no choice in the matter. He has to buy RotV or SotM. That's why I'm trying to find out if spending $40 on a MS is just for the terrain (as the CONS part implies) or for a broad selection of new figures for your collection (as the PROS part implies). If he has SotM only, then should he buy RotV or some waves, etc? I would suggest RotV.
This is a great idea for a post. We should make up holiday shopping guide for people to not-so-subtly link in emails to family. 'If you want to spend $20 (or $30-$50-$100) on me, these are great options for a Heroscape fan.'
+Rep for a good idea.
Onacara
July 25th, 2008, 09:58 PM
The point is the $40 can only buy you 1 Master Set. So you can't get 2 or 4 based on clearance prices. :wink:
We are to assume that the person has at least 1 Master Set.
Einar's puppy
July 25th, 2008, 10:03 PM
What would i buy wih 40$? Simple, I wouldn't, I'd save it. Eventually, I'd have 150 bucks and I'd be eligible for House Mouse's free shipping. :p
zanter
July 25th, 2008, 10:04 PM
The point is the $40 can only buy you 1 Master Set. So you can't get 2 or 4 based on clearance prices. :wink:
We are to assume that the person has at least 1 Master Set.
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~Z~
Onacara
July 25th, 2008, 10:08 PM
What would i buy wih 40$? Simple, I wouldn't, I'd save it. Eventually, I'd have 150 bucks and I'd be eligible for House Mouse's free shipping. :p
Or you could buy $35 worth of stuff from WGH (www.wargamersheadquarters.com) and pay the low $5 for shipping they charge to anywhere in the US :wink:
ron3090
July 27th, 2008, 01:45 PM
I would buy a shift key right next to my "i" key.
1Mmirg
July 27th, 2008, 06:48 PM
I'm definitely for the one large and two small. Yes, I always first buy a full wave (just like I first buy a new master's set). But when it comes to adding to a collection (which is what I understood from the OP), then the answer is one large (I can always use some more excellent terrain expansion, plus the extra common set with it)--and two small sets (whatever commons pack I currently have either (a) a low amount of, or (b) whatever small sets expand a current army project--you know the 3rd set of Blasts for my Glads/Blasts army.
One of the better polls, zanter. Thanks!
Whitearrow
July 27th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Definately four small sets. I do not have as many figures as some people (ok, most) and there a few sets I REALLY want to buy, but not for $20+ for one
Onacara
July 27th, 2008, 07:24 PM
I would buy a shift key right next to my "i" key.
Is this because he accidentally didn't capitalize ONE i????
You do know that spell check does not find that error right?
ron3090
July 27th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I would buy a shift key right next to my "i" key.
Is this because he accidentally didn't capitalize ONE i????
You do know that spell check does not find that error right?
Of course. There is no room for mistakes.:joke:
$$un
July 27th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I picked the castle and small set, I don't know if it's because I want a castle so bad or because the castle is awsome. It depends on the small set, like if it was snipers and vipers or g-nators and hounds theres no way I'm saying no to that!
EDIT- But if It's a new master set I don't have, (I have both now), than forget the castle and small set!
Onacara
July 27th, 2008, 07:32 PM
I would buy a shift key right next to my "i" key.
Is this because he accidentally didn't capitalize ONE i????
You do know that spell check does not find that error right?
Of course. There is no room for mistakes.:joke:
Oh really? Cause I "mistakenly" just neg rep'd you.
ron3090
July 27th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Whoah. Sorry. I apologize for my comment, which I meant to be a joke. I was wrong.
Onacara
July 27th, 2008, 08:10 PM
Made ya look :neener:
ron3090
July 27th, 2008, 08:13 PM
:duh:And I fell for it.
Onacara
July 27th, 2008, 08:14 PM
:duh:And I fell for it.
Do you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary either?
ron3090
July 27th, 2008, 08:27 PM
:duh:And I fell for it.
Do you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary either?
Yes it is, I just checked.
Oh, wait.
Agent of Vydar
July 27th, 2008, 11:05 PM
I would buy a whole wave. You know like wave 3 that I don't have.:cry:
$$un
July 31st, 2008, 01:26 PM
I would buy a whole wave. You know like wave 3 that I don't have.:cry:
I'd do that but I only want a couple sets from each wave.
Agent of Vydar
July 31st, 2008, 03:15 PM
Yes well no matter if I like them or not I am still a completist. But if they look cool and play good I still buy the ones I want first.
MalignantT
July 31st, 2008, 03:22 PM
Forget all that stuff...
buy an exclusive off E-bay.
Nerak should be down to $40 by now, right?
edit: Well, he was down to $40 last time I looked before today, when there were about half a dozen of them up there.
Onacara
July 31st, 2008, 03:29 PM
Forget all that stuff...
buy an exclusive off E-bay.
Nerak should be down to $40 by now, right?
Which eBay do you shop on? :confused:
King's Knight
July 31st, 2008, 06:52 PM
While there have been some great suggestions for $40, if you can raise that to $50 my 2¢ would to buy that jungle 3-pack that wargamers headquarters is selling...
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