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funrun
August 20th, 2006, 05:18 PM
This summer I spent a week at the coolest conference in the world. No, not GenCon, but SIGGRAPH, "the world's premier international conference on 3D graphics and interactive techniques." I first attended in 2004 and missed out in 2005, and after 2006 I can't wait to go every year. I've found some great videos of things I did and saw there, so read on and see if you don't agree with me for why this is the best conference ever.

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Unbelievable Networking Opps and Behind the Scenes Learning.
I got to talk personally with the people who actually create the world's best movies and video games. These companies (listed with their well known movies) that I talked to were: Weta Digital (King Kong and LOTR), Disney (Pirates of the Caribbean), Sony Imageworks (Spiderman), Lucasfilm/ ILM (Star Wars), Dreamworks (Shrek), Pixar (Cars). I didn't talk to the gaming people, but Blizzard, EA, Microsoft, and more, they were all there too. I also talked to a lot of respectable smaller companies who do great work that you would recognize, but you wouldn't recognize if I name dropped the company.

I sat in on a presentation where Rhythm & Hues (one of those great smaller companies) explained how they created the lion, gryphon, and crowd scenes in "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe." Weta Digital also explained how they created the jungle scenes and the ENTIRE city of New York in the "King Kong" movie. Sony Imageworks explained the making of the 3D water in their dam break scene in their upcoming animated movie "Open Season" (release end of Sept). I saw a lot of unreleased scenes from this movie and it is going to be really funny for adults and kids.

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Cool Hands on Exhibits.
I also got to use a lot of very cool and cutting edge technologies. For example. . .

I got to be an actor on a motion capture stage, just like Andy Serkis did to play Gollum in LOTR! I had to put on a "wet suit" full of sensors. There was a stage area set up with cameras that can record the positioning of the sensors on the suit. This xyz coordinate data then gets applied to a 3D model that has the same points on its body. This way the human motions get translated to the 3D model. The company doing this liked my belly dancing enough that they rendered this sample animation of one of my belly dance moves. Now I just need to get a bunch of them strung together with some music. The hands are a little stiff because not every motion gets recorded, that part would be animated as a finishing touch. Warning, naked 3D lady to follow, and no, its not a model of me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0UG2HSiIbc

Forget one finger touch screens and 2D navigation systems, now imagine a computer screen that replaces your keyboard and your mouse and allows you to zoom, scale, and moves things intuitively. I used a wall mural sized version of this mutli-touch screen shown in the video here. AMAZING technology. http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch

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2005 World's Best Animations (the good ones that I could find online.)
A large part of this conference is to show the best or most technically advanced animations from the previous year. Most of these have funny storylines. Some will take a long time to download but any wait is worth it. I recommend not playing any till it downloads completely.

One Rat Short (won Best of Show)
http://www.oneratshort.com/trailer.html

Warhammer: Mark of Chaos 2006 Intro Cinematic (:drool:)
To get to the video, click "Selected Works" in the left nav. On the next page in the middle column, click an "Intro" link under "Play". There are two file sizes which translate to different screen sizes. There are also two options of how to play, bittorrent and QT, try one to see which works for your computer.
http://www.digicpictures.com/dataeng/pager.htm

Robin Hood Flour - "Giving" Commercial
http://www.richardrosenman.com/project/movies/?mov=h320&cid=71

"A Mean Robot Ate My Homework"
http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=939

Guinness Commercial
http://www.framestore-cfc.com/commercials/guinness_noitulove/launch_noitulove.html

Carlton Draught - 'Big Ad'
To get to the video, click on "paul middleditch". On the next page click Carlton Draught - 'Big Ad'.
http://www.plazafilms.com.au/

Racing Airplanes, "Racing Beats" (sorry I couldn't find the translation)
http://193.196.129.35/fmxtrailer/06/big.mov

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Free Parties Till You Drop.
All the main companies host some form of party. Multiple parties happen every night and span the time from the exhibits close (6PM) till the bars close (2AM). Most parties involve free hors devours, a free Tshirt, and free alcohol. You can't beat the free alcohol! The biggest annual party is always at a hot night club and animator geeks know how to dance!

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A week of parties, cool technology, amazing animations, and fun people. SIGGRAPH is the best conference ever. My first year was in LA, this year was Boston, next year: San Diego! Here I come!

netherspirit
August 20th, 2006, 05:20 PM
A guy that works for me went to that. He said it was awesome.

funrun
August 20th, 2006, 05:31 PM
A guy that works for me went to that. He said it was awesome.Oh yeah nether I meant to tell you Perdue had a booth on the exhibit floor for a 3D interactive Perdue campus. The guy said he didn't let most people actually use it, but I got to put on the 3D tracker googles and take the joystick and roam around your campus in stereoscopic 3D. I'm talking about the 3D you can reach out and touch, turn your head or crouch down and the world moves as if you are standing in it. I was wondering if it was anything you know about?

Perdue has a very large representation at SIGRRAPH every year. You have to put a school or a company on your badge, so I know I saw a lot from Perdue. The only other school with a lot of people there are the ones in the Boston area like MIT. I student volunteered this con and I think there was a busload of students that came together from Perdue. I wondered if any them might have known you! Next year you need to join them. It's basically free for student volunteers. If you want to know how, PM me. If you do end up going, make sure you let me know.

reapersaurus
August 20th, 2006, 06:07 PM
I'm glad you posted this, if for nothing but the Warhammer movie.

That thing is SO kick-booty that everyone who is a fan of fantasy should see it - talk about at the end going "AAAhhhhh! I must see more!" :lol:
The Guiness ad, and Carlton Draught are great - I'll have to try the others out.

The touch screens have great promise - especially resizing and the like.
Reminded me a bit of the Johnny Mnemonic interface. :D

Neato on the motion capture belly dancing!

I guess they told you to stay in a certain area when capturing? It looks like it was a repeated sequence of moves, for accuracy of capture, as opposed to matching a belly dancing style or music....?

funrun
August 20th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I'm glad you posted this, if for nothing but the Warhammer movie.

That thing is SO kick-booty that everyone who is a fan of fantasy should see it - talk about at the end going "AAAhhhhh! I must see more!" :lol:
The Guiness ad, and Carlton Draught are great - I'll have to try the others out.

The touch screens have great promise - especially resizing and the like.
Reminded me a bit of the Johnny Mnemonic interface. :D

Neato on the motion capture belly dancing!

I guess they told you to stay in a certain area when capturing? It looks like it was a repeated sequence of moves, for accuracy of capture, as opposed to matching a belly dancing style or music....?The Warhammer movie. . . :drool: I need to watch it again, plug my laptop up to our big TV/ surround sound even. I first saw it in a theater setting and it so deserves to be seen that way every time.

The mocap stage is a defined area where the cameras can see me. It is a lot bigger than the area I moved in because I was trying to stay centered so that these moves can be combined. I was disappointed they picked this one move for the sample because it is very repetitive and looks dumb when not done to any music or without other girls doing it in a line. Belly dancing also looks best with low rise pants on so that you can really see the hips moving, so overall this sample render falls very short of potential.

You should check out the funny Rhino Flamenco dancer and other 2 siggraph movies on the company's site here
http://www.phasespace.com/gallery.php?movie=7

netherspirit
August 20th, 2006, 06:49 PM
...Perdue...


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...Perdue...


...Perdue...


Ummmm he's a farmer, we buy his Chickens when they go on sale.

monkeyfish
August 20th, 2006, 06:54 PM
...Perdue...


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Ummmm he's a farmer, we buy his Chickens when they go on sale.

He's also Governor of G.A

funrun
August 20th, 2006, 07:15 PM
lol I knew something didn't seem quite right!

Revdyer
August 20th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Nice captured moves, funrun; thanks for sharing!

DarkSpade
August 20th, 2006, 08:00 PM
After the warhammer movies I saw at gencon, the one on that site is really disappointing. :(

funrun
August 20th, 2006, 08:17 PM
After the warhammer movies I saw at gencon, the one on that site is really disappointing. :(???? I heard that this Warhammer movie was one of the ones playing at GC. I did just put it up on my TV/ surround sound, and the bass in that audio made the couch vibrate. :drool: If you only saw this on a tiny PC screen and whimpy speaker setup, you are missing a lot!

DarkSpade
August 20th, 2006, 08:49 PM
After the warhammer movies I saw at gencon, the one on that site is really disappointing. :(???? I heard that this Warhammer movie was one of the ones playing at GC. I did just put it up on my TV/ surround sound, and the bass in that audio made the couch vibrate. :drool: If you only saw this on a tiny PC screen and whimpy speaker setup, you are missing a lot!


While my screen isn't that big, it is bigger than my TV. Also, my speakers are far from whimpy. :)


This one I didn't see at gencon. I saw one with the chaos bloodthirster. There was also a movie for the Warhammer MMO. Both seemed to be longer. (sadly, I never had the chance to catch the full length of either)

Really wanna see a sweet game movie? Check out the opening intro to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War. :drool: I swear, Games-Workshop based video games could suck tuckus, and I'd still buy them just for their intro movies.

reapersaurus
August 21st, 2006, 12:25 AM
wow - Darkspade, I couldn;t disagree more.

Did you SEE the Warhammer Fantasy movie that funrun linked to?
Becuase that was ultra-high-quality CGI, high-res movie.

I just looked at all the movies on the Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War website.
2 of them were crappy in-game clips, with low detail and low res, and the other was middling quality CGI, low-res movie.
And I hated everything about the theme of the clip - mechs, stupid looking orcs, and people dying to gain worthless hills.

The Warhammer fantasy clip is some of the best CGI ever made - it's better than Final Fantasy even.
They aren't even in the same league. :headshake:

RobWeaver
August 21st, 2006, 07:37 AM
I'm a technological idiot who can barely find the keyboard, but your post on the conference was great! And even understandale by technological idiots who can barely find the keyboard! Thanks.

DarkSpade
August 21st, 2006, 08:39 AM
wow - Darkspade, I couldn;t disagree more.

Did you SEE the Warhammer Fantasy movie that funrun linked to?
Becuase that was ultra-high-quality CGI, high-res movie.

I just looked at all the movies on the Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War website.
2 of them were crappy in-game clips, with low detail and low res, and the other was middling quality CGI, low-res movie.
And I hated everything about the theme of the clip - mechs, stupid looking orcs, and people dying to gain worthless hills.

The Warhammer fantasy clip is some of the best CGI ever made - it's better than Final Fantasy even.
They aren't even in the same league. :headshake:


The movie funrun linked to was cool, but as I said, the one I saw at gencon was cooler(and for the same game I believe).

I own Dawn of War, so i've seen it's opening movie in full screen glory. It's awesome. Maybe you need to be a 40k player to really fall in love with it.

funrun
August 21st, 2006, 10:03 AM
I'm a technological idiot who can barely find the keyboard, but your post on the conference was great! And even understandale by technological idiots who can barely find the keyboard! Thanks.Well if you can't find your keyboard, then I hope you saw the multi-touch screen that I linked? To get the keyboard on that screen, you just draw a small circle with your finger, up pops a circular menu with radial options, tap the keyboard option, and up pops a keyboard right on the screen!

I am particularly glad to know that you were able to follow along. I try to think of my audience when I write, so here I didn't get techie on things like how the fur of the lion in "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" was special from all other animated furs before it because it moved in clumps that could separate and form new clumps as it animated with the physics models of wind, water, etc. :)

Enough about Warhammer, didn't anyone laugh at the beer commercials?!

DarkSpade
August 21st, 2006, 05:51 PM
Enough about Warhammer, didn't anyone laugh at the beer commercials?!

One more thing about warhammer.


Went back to the site to check out the movie again. Apparently I had followed the wrong set of links and ended up at a different warhammer movie(29meg file with goblins fighting a demon). This time, I think I found the one you ment(109meg file with the bloodthirster). You were right, that is the one they showed at gencon. Reaper was also right about it being better than the 40k one.

reapersaurus
August 21st, 2006, 05:59 PM
whew!
Reality has warped back to normal, and Darkspade is back as a non-Bizarro version of himself again. :lol:

Glad you found the right one with all the lovely CGI drool-ness. :thumbsup:

Maybe you can tell me what that movie is for? Is it a game? Why does it have suchgood CGI?
I want to see more, if they ever make another one of that quality, and don;t want to miss it, but I know little about Warhammer.

funrun
August 21st, 2006, 06:27 PM
whew!
Reality has warped back to normal, and Darkspade is back as a non-Bizarro version of himself again. :lol:

Glad you found the right one with all the lovely CGI drool-ness. :thumbsup:

Maybe you can tell me what that movie is for? Is it a game? Why does it have suchgood CGI?
I want to see more, if they ever make another one of that quality, and don;t want to miss it, but I know little about Warhammer.Whew, glad we are all in agreement. The movie is an intro cinematic, meaning that is the opening sequence of the game that sets the backstory for you, like Thormun's journal is to Heroscape. Why is it so good. . . because today's technology allows it to be :). It is really awesome on a big screen with surround sound and a subwoofer.

reapersaurus
August 21st, 2006, 08:59 PM
It is really awesome on a big screen with surround sound and a subwoofer.Are you offering to set me up with a projection theater, or offering your home for viewing purposes?

;)

netherspirit
August 21st, 2006, 09:01 PM
Ive watched it a couple of times and its amazing!