Cleaning up Scapers! Or "I Don't Curse That Much!!"

[truth]

Hey everybody, I'm implementing some plans to see 'scapers cleaned up of foul and otherwise offensive language. I want the site to become something that Mama 'scaper has no issues with letting wee-little 'scaper read. I'm making the decision to turn on language filters. If you have any posts that are offensive for reasons other than foul language, that the filter won't pick up, I'd appreciate your support in this by your going back and editing your own posts. No one will be exempt from this new forum rule. Those trying to get around the language filters or posting in an offensive manner will be warned, and then if it does not cease, banned for an undetermined length of time. Lets make this site someplace where our kids can come and enjoy too. There are plenty of forums out there where you can get your swear on if that's what your into. ;)

I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to be a dictator and ruin any fun. At GenCon we encouraged 'scapers of all ages to come and hang out at the site. And I'd like to make it a place that all of us can enjoy.

Thanks everyone for all of your support in everything we are trying to do here at 'scapers. I hope to see the same support thrown behind this! :)

[hero]

OK,

So,

Get ready for the big fat "what?" but in thinking this over, talking it over, and otherwise grumbling, I actually agree that this is the right decision. And the fact that I was somehow thought to be exempt from a policy is pretty ridiculous in its own right. So I'll be quieting down now.

If this community is to grow, Truth is on the money here. When I started .net, I thought maybe 30 other folks out there would discover the game and maybe wanna swap some maps. Because of that, I kind of set an example that was, shall we say, not stellar when it comes to language-you-wouldn't-use-with-your-pastor, and I brought that here as a member of Truth's incarnation of HS greatness.

But it's pretty clear, as Truth moves on to bigger servers, having to run ads, and certainly the insane showing at Gen Con, that this little game isn't going away in 12 months, as I feared upon it's launch. And the HS community is no longer a little fish, it's a whale.

There are plenty of other outlets for myself (and others) to throw down about the random, um, stuff, that's not at all related to the game, so we can head there.

Peace.

Hero.

[AgentX-127]

I want the site to become something that Mama 'scaper has no issues with letting wee-little 'scaper read.

I applaud your stance.

Recently the adults have been scaring me! I was trying to find out what a real GenCon experience is like, but then I find out things about someone's wife that I'd rather not know!

Seriously, I feel that you are making a wise decision. A few arguments have cropped up recently regarding language. Someone in authority needed to step in and state what you just did.

Bravo!

[bunjee]

All old posts seem to be fixed dynamically for display purposes. I went back to look at some of mine and they all say frack in stead of the four letter forbidden variant.

Coolio! Comic book speak time!

[hextr1p]

I'm totally down with this idea.

But then this is pretty simple for me to get behind, because when do I ever :verymad:'n curse?

[hero]

Y'all KNOW it's gonna be harder for me then for you. Luckily, you can't censor attitude.

[Gambit]

why frack? why not my subsitute, flip or flippin', or flipper?

[truth]

why frack? why not my subsitute, flip or flippin', or flipper?

Hey here's an idea. Go substitute flip in on your site... mingamers... whatever it was called. :) For me it's Battlestar Galactica reference all the way.

[reapersaurus]

WOW.

I gotta admit, this is a ballsy decision, truth (can we say "ballsy?)

Considering it couldn't be popular with your hard-core inner circle (most obviously, hero and IMax), this couldn't have been easy.

I notice hero posted right after you, which makes sense that you ran it by him before implementing it.

I agree with the decision, even if it means a slightly less-efficient or accurate communication between people, for the same benefits that you've already mentioned.

The main thing to keep in mind when making decisions about this game (I feel) should be:
This is a game for kids and kids-at-heart.

Whatever best supports that kind of approach is probably the right decision to make.

[ninthdoc]

For me it's Battlestar Galactica reference all the way.

:bowdown:

Could we please have "feldercarb" for $h1t? :pray:

[truth]

For me it's Battlestar Galactica reference all the way.

:bowdown:

Could we please have "feldercarb" for $h1t? :pray:

Hey! Thats getting around the chat filter! :) No soup for you! Yeah I'll change it just for you my cuddly friend.

[hero]

I'm totally on the feldercarb bandwagon.

[LilNewbie]

I agree 110% with the decision!

:thumbsup:

At least we still have the emotes:

:rtfm: :soapbox: :wtf!: :tryem:

:D

Newb.

[reapersaurus]

you could make "cylon" code for f*^%tard..... ;)

[hero]

:blowup:

[truth]

you could make "cylon" code for f*^%tard..... ;)

I've already got a good one for that ;)

[Finrod]

Thanks, Truth. I really appreciate it. Things have been getting .... a little out-of-hand in certain threads lately...

Profanity filters can be lots of fun, too! While some of the nominations so far are fun, I'd recommend that we have our OWN substitutes, related to Heroscape. I nominate TAELORD as one possibility, for example. :)

[HokshilaTo]

Thanks Truth, I was avoiding certain threads for the fact that my kids like to lean over my shoulder and read along.

[Hahnarama]

I'm totally on the feldercarb bandwagon.

You know I was JOKING @ GC when I said paid members should get the right to drop the F Bomb on anyone....but I guess paying won't even allow that option.

I mean **** feldercarb just ain't going to cut it. I mean imagine the "You Feldercarbtard!" It doesn's sing!

(By the way I didn't type frack I typed F---! asshole nor idiot a------, **** felder also is filteredout for S---, and the mother of all....Mother ****er)

If you dont say your above 13 you dont get in.

What a ****in joke!

* ****
* ****
* ****
* ****
* **********
* mother****er
* ****

OK at least **** and cocksuker, two of the 7 words, make it through the filter.

[InfinityMax]

OK, so I'm a British sci-fi geek - we should use schmeg for... well, anything. It works nearly everywhere.

So I guess this is definitely overruling the 'pay to curse' plan? I was really behind that.

[Hahnarama]

Ya the schmeg-rag has already wiped away everything

[Hahnarama]

Man the gosh damn thing changed my signature line too!

F U C K!

[bunjee]

Thanks for pointing out the things the filter wasn't catching Hahn! You're the best!

[truth]

Man the gosh darn thing changed my signature line too!

F R A C K!

Nice try Hahn, but we are fracking you up good! :) You sling them we'll add them to the list. There are like 10 of us and only one of you. :)

[Hahnarama]

Thanks for pointing out the things the filter wasn't catching Hahn! You're the best!

Gurl Friend the thought police....uh I mean the mods would have cought it sooner or later......

F U C K I N G coppers! :P

[ninthdoc]

I'm glad that you recognized feldercarb. I don't think it's been used in the new series.

BTW, a lady of ill-repute would be a socialator.

[Hahnarama]

what was wrong with "Son of a gun"???

[Hahnarama]

carebear...............what penis suction device was already taken?

[netherspirit]

Glad to see us making use of this. I've wanted to put this into use for awhile now.

[skyknight]

Cool, while I do not mind the swearing I do believe we have some younger folks around. That is why I always tried to watch my vocab. Anyways Hero I hope this doesn't mean we are gonna be losin you. You are a real ****in asset to this site :wink:

Edit: wow my sig line was deleted, when did that happen?

[Revdyer]

I appreciate the wisdom of setting a standard for the language used on this site.

The minute that involves monitoring the thoughts expressed, of course, and I'll be gone. But I don't think there is any chance of that happening here at all.

We can do theatre of the absurd without offensive language, after all...I've read it here more than once.

Thanks for trying to do what is most helpful and useful for the whole population of Heroscapers.com.

I'm now going sig browsing to see what some of them have morphed into!

[Hahnarama]

Edit: wow my sig line was deleted, when did that happen?

Why because the thought police have rescinded the 1st Amendment and yours send something about a big hunk o’ Jotun up your ass! :P

[skyknight]

It was funny though :wink:

[DarkSpade]

carebear...............what pickle suction device was already taken?

:wtf:

[bunjee]

Edit: wow my sig line was deleted, when did that happen?

Why because the thought police have rescinded the 1st Amendment and yours send something about a big hunk o’ Jotun up your tuckus! :PHmm, I didn't think sig editing was going on. Weird. I would have expected you to be notified, Sky.

[Filbey]

Cudos! 8)

[funrun]

It is my understanding that all words (including sigs and PMs) will be caught by the word censor. I went in and edited and added a few more. Funny stuff!

P.S. Good job truth!

[reapersaurus]

I think I know why someone might think their sig was deleted :

Because someone changed the default setting to be "Attach signature" is UNchecked.

[skyknight]

Still not working :wink:

edit :nevermind :lol:

[ultradoug]

well all I can really say is its about flocking- thats what I do with my tree during the hollyadays to cover it in snow, dam, the things that beavers make, Time.
I'm sick to flutterbud death of those lacktards, those are the people that can not drink milk, messing up my fourm and them kids reading over momascapers posts. Oh, my friend has something to say too.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/taelordf.jpg

Man flockords even more of a drama queen then hero or reaper combined! Hey, what would you get if they did combe into one anyway? You'd get Heaper. And there is no way in hello whats up, yes? Sorry, I'm in the middle of a rant... that the word Heaper would make it past the filters.

I meen come on we dont want those goolge adds becoming the kind of pages that would come up when you search for Heaper! Oh my word, there are some sick other name for a donkey is what agian? out there.

Anyway, I am out of rant now. Screw - thats what you do with a lightbulb to get it in, you all!

Wonder if I will get a warning for this? Nahh, I'm freeking ultradoug I can do whatever the bleep I want!

Ahahaha. I'm insain.

[Gambit]

Edit: wow my sig line was deleted, when did that happen?

heres a new sig, it chagnes what it say(but still inculdes you username) every 30 seconds or somthing like that


http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Skynight,white,lgreen.png (http://www.sloganizer.net/en/)

[Jormi_Boced]

I am really happy with this decision. After some of the posts I had been reading recently, I was really thinking it would be a good idea to start a more family friendly Heroscape Fan site, but if we can clean up the act here, that would be even better.

[brokeasajoke]

I think this is a good decision. It will make this site friendlier, & that can only be a good thing.

Apart from using a language filter, "creative editing" by moderators can also be great fun. You know, replace belligerent posts with stuff like:

"I don't play well with others. I'm a meanie. Would you like to play My Little Pony with me? I also write my name on the back of my underwear - yup, old habits die hard."

Stuff like that. :wink:

[GaryLASQ]

if you're looking for a good list of Baby Swears just go watch the movie Johnny Dangerously.

hmm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_expletives
although a few of these listed are pretty close to the mark (warning :) )

[Agent Minivann]

OK, so I'm a British sci-fi geek - we should use schmeg for... well, anything. It works nearly everywhere.

So I guess this is definitely overruling the 'pay to curse' plan? I was really behind that.

I'll second schmeg and add drok it.

[InfinityMax]

OK, I'm not opposed to filtering the big curses, like **** and ****, but I think this is starting to go overboard. Obviously you can't have us saying ****, but damn? Or damned? That's silly. Ass, hell, damn and crap should still be legal. Any kid over 10 hears that every day. Mine hear it from me.

So cull out the girl dogs, woman parts, toilet-droppings, carnal knowledges, and possibly fellatio-givers, but leave me my petty curses. For God's sake, man, give me SOMETHING interesting to say.

EDITED because plural forms of curses are NOT filtered.

EDITED again - sandwhich? What the feldercarbing frack does that have to do with... well, the word it's replacing?

[countblah]

Thank you for giving us that tidbit to get past the censors. Nobody ever use it.


And can we say douchebag?

[truth]

Hmmm tried to get all of the plurals... must have missed some.

[Codeman]

Truth... good move...it will only make the site better... I'm all for it.

[countblah]

Answer the question.

[geddy lifeson]

OK, I'm not opposed to filtering the big curses, like feldercarb and frack, but I think this is starting to go overboard. Obviously you can't have us saying sandwhich, but darn? Or darned? That's silly. tuckus, hell, darn and crap should still be legal. Any kid over 10 hears that every day. Mine hear it from me.

So cull out the girl dogs, woman parts, toilet-droppings, carnal knowledges, and possibly fellatio-givers, but leave me my petty curses. For God's sake, man, give me SOMETHING interesting to say.

EDITED because plural forms of curses are NOT filtered.

EDITED again - sandwhich? What the feldercarbing frack does that have to do with... well, the word it's replacing?

IMax...I sent you a pm on the sandwhich replacement. Don't ask me how I fugured it out.

I was also curious to what wouldn't get through and if you add another word to some of the filtered words such as bag to the end of the sandwhich replacement or nugget to the frack replacement and they appear to be fine. I guess the filters can't be too smart.

[truth]

It definetly possible to find ways to get around them. As we see them we'll clean them up... but until then please try to respect the rule and not get around them.

[RichardD]

It's a good job that Truth's a BSG fan, and not a Deadwod fan. The language filter for THAT show would add the word ********** twice in every sentence.

[funrun]

Pickles, sandwiches. . . there is a running theme here, and it does relate to the replaced word in an abstract way :)

[InfinityMax]

Yeah, I was mostly joking, but I was suprised to see - well, a dirty word for a woman part - replaced with 'sandwhich.' Oh, and I like saying [tuckus] burger. I think it's funny. My kids crack up every time I say it.

Truth, I will definitely try to toe this line, when I bother to post here any more. Like we've said a few times, websites are like back yards, and when you're in another man's back yard, you respect his rules.

[spider_poison]

I agree with you, Truth. If the website is to grow, I think you're taking the right step.

[ultradoug]

says the stormtrooper on the potty! LOLZ

[DarkSpade]

I'm all for the replacement words, but can you make them make some kind of sense? Can't understand half the stuff Imax is saying.

[truth]

I'm all for the replacement words, but can you make them make some kind of sense? Can't understand half the stuff Imax is saying.

I think I had most of them making some kind of sense. I think some were changed on me. I made a certain female organ Mustard just to mess with NWOs proclomation on that showstopper thread.

[K/H_Addict]

you forgot b--tard.

[Codeman]

Answer the question.

How about when in doubt don't type it.

[countblah]

I typed it...it wasn't changed. I assume I got the green light. IMax and I have a bit of a history with that particular gem of a word, so I would be disappointed to see it go.

[Jason]

This is a great decision. Cursing is probably the lowest form of communication that we have. I don't even curse in real life

[ninthdoc]

And yet, others curse in your presence...

[Jason]

People cursed at Jesus and Martin Luther King too (not saying I am either of them but it's impossible to have everyone liek you)

[truth]

People cursed at Jesus and Martin Luther King too (not saying I am either of them but it's impossible to have everyone liek you)

Yes but it is quite a feat to have SO MANY MANY people dislike you... Its like an accomplishment all of its own. And then you prepetuate it by comparing yourself to Jesus and Proclaiming yourself the Undefeated Heroscape World Champion. The anomisity you create is almost enough to ban you... Its like you love to dance on that line... Be warned I'm still watching you.

[ninthdoc]

Ban him! Ban him! Ban him!

Okay, I'm banning myself! :lol:

[Jason]

If anyone beats me at the Mass Tournament on Sept 10 I'll be removing the Undefeated Sig

[truth]

If anyone beats me at the Mass Tournament on Sept 10 I'll be removing the Undefeated Sig

Yup that's what I'm talking about. I'm kinda hoping we get pictures of someone "beating" you at the event. (Bad Admin Bad!) Also when they win against you at Heroscape that'll be fun too.

[hero]

(insert obligatory 'its a frackin' game you idiots' comment)

[brokeasajoke]

Huh? I spent the last year in Boston. What did I miss there while I was away from Heroscape?

[geddy lifeson]

(insert obligatory 'its a frackin' game you idiots' comment)


Come on hero, its more than a game...its a way of ****ing life.

[hero]

I just mean the "Hi my name is Jason and I can't fit my 12 year old ego through the door" garbage.

[Jason]

Most 12 year olds I know have small egos so I do not understand that comment

[ninthdoc]

OMG, I so wish I was on another forum, I'd out you for a pedophile 9 ways to Sunday for that last comment!

[Jason]

lol

[InfinityMax]

Well, will you look at that. The thread is going along fine, a little discussion, a little debate, and then there's Jason. And all he has to say is 'Jason' and everyone is angry. Of course, he is probably saying something else, I just can't see it.

[InfinityMax]

Ban him! Ban him! Ban him!

/sign

[ninthdoc]

My sig line is really huge, I'll take mine down when Jason takes his down.

[Jason]

Actually I am undefeated In Wisconsin as well seeing as that is where I am from :)

[ninthdoc]

When did Wisconsin become the world or the site of any Heroscape world championship?

[countblah]

Since always, pointdexter. :roll:

Try to keep up.

[ninthdoc]

Whatever, J, got it covered.

[brokeasajoke]

My sig line is really huge, I'll take mine down when Jason takes his down.

That blue bow is pretty tacky. I'd suggest something more tasteful - like one of those huge, flashy gold belts wrestlers wear. :D

[countblah]

:lol:

[ninthdoc]

brokeasajoke, ROFLMAO, seriously: :rofl:

[reapersaurus]

Call me crazy, but I'd think you'd have to win at either a game convention or at least a regional gameday to make ANY claim as to your competetiveness in this game.

I guess ranking criteria are a purely subjective thing noawadays..... :roll:

[Jason]

Maybe Ninthdoc will let me use his sig

[countblah]

HIGHLY doubtful. But go ahead and swipe it...

See what happens.

[gibberish_47]

HIGHLY doubtful. But go ahead and swipe it...

See what happens.

:rofl:

[Codeman]

Actually I am undefeated In Wisconsin as well seeing as that is where I am from :)
Jason why don't you come down to the "Tree Town Open" in October? Joah is from Wisconsin and I think he may make the trip. This tourney should test your World Championship Status. We will have 3 of Gen-Con's final 8 at our tournament including the current Champion (Spider Posion) for you to test your play. We also have several other good players who were not at Gen-Con so it will not be a cake walk. Winning this tourney would help you in your quest for claiming World Championship Status plus you could take home some nice prizes... check out "Tree Town Open" under the event thread. Hope you can make it.

[countblah]

Season's beatings!

[Jormi_Boced]

Actually I am undefeated In Wisconsin as well seeing as that is where I am from :)
Jason why don't you come down to the "Tree Town Open" in October? Joah is from Wiscon and I think he may make the trip. This tourney should test your World Championship Status. We will have 3 of Gen-Con's final 8 at our tournament including the current Champion (Spider Posion) for you to test your play. We also have several other good players who were not at Gen-Con so it will not be a cake walk. Winning this tourney would help you in your quest for claiming World Championship Status plus you could take home some nice prizes... check out "Tree Town Open" under the event thread. Hope you can make it.

I like that idea a lot. Bring it Jason. Maybe Spider_Poison will play those "crappy" orcs again for you to face.

[Jason]

Send me a plane ticket and I'm there :)

[lilwis]

Send me a plane ticket and I'm there :)

Oh I can play this game..lemme try:

Give me the trophy and I'll be the champion. :roll:

[Codeman]

Send me a plane ticket and I'm there :)

Where do plan to fly into? (The Twin Cities ?) Can't you drive a car? It would be quicker to drive than fly!

[Jason]

Long drive from Boston, as a side note I'de be hoping to face lots of Orc armies

[ninthdoc]

Send me a plane ticket and I'm there :)

Gawd, you're a lamer!

Long drive from Boston

Imax, Rychean, and I drove from Dallas to Indy to get to GenCon. Balls up or shut up, dude.

[Codeman]

Long drive from Boston

You are in Boston .... but only play HS in Wisconsin? I don't understand ,but you and anyone else is invited to come play in October, but you take care of the transportation.

[Jason]

I said I also am undefeated in WI because I grew up in WI (I have since then moved to Boston). On a side note Heroscape travels well. When I flew home last year I packed 3 Sets of Terrain + 2 VW's + 3 of every common squad through Wave 4 + 1 of of each unique

[Codeman]

Send me a plane ticket and I'm there :)

Gawd, you're a lamer!

Long drive from Boston

Imax, Rychean, and I drove from Dallas to Indy to get to GenCon. Balls up or shut up, dude.

Better idea yet... maybe some of the DFW and our Iowa/Minnesota group could meet halfway ( Wichita KS ?) and both groups could take on Jason(if he wants to fly in) That would be even a better test for him.

[ninthdoc]

Codeman, don't scare him (any more than he already is...) he can't even accept one challenge, now you're threatening him with 2 of the most active groups? Jason will be under his momma's skirt in no time! :wink:

[ninthdoc]

I said I also am undefeated in WI because I grew up in WI (I have since then moved to Boston). On a side note Heroscape travels well. When I flew home last year I packed 3 Sets of Terrain + 2 VW's + 3 of every common squad through Wave 4 + 1 of of each unique

Nice try to change the subject, but since I take 20 MS, 20 RttFFs, 6 VW, 4 TT, 4-8 of each small booster, and 1 of each large hero pack w/me about once every 2 months for large game days, your feat is beyond unimpressive.

I'd love to see a picture of you, I'll bet your about 14 YOA w/major acne.

[lilwis]

...and then there was silence...

Oh yeah, your blue ribbon is hilarious Ninthdoc!

[ninthdoc]

...and then there was silence... :rofl:

[Codeman]

Ninthdoc I just wanted to give the Un-defeated World Champion a real test so he could prove himself to all and everyone could quit picking on him :lol:

[wisinger]

oh this is horrible. i was getting along so well with this ignore thing, but i am seeing posts again, by way of quotes. is there anyway for the ignore to include quotes?

[InfinityMax]

I hear ya, Wisinger. It would improve my ignoring so much if people would just stop quoting him!

[ninthdoc]

Sorry, I apologize to the group. I've finally reached my fill so I unignored him. I'll start ignoring him again now. Just to keep in tradition, I need to make a retraction. Therefore, I retract Jason. He is no more. <Poof your gone> Eat that! Heh!

[Doc_Savage]

TOTAL THREAD HIJACK COMING UP..........

Thanks Truth for putting in the filters. I've been a little nervous being on the site with the kids in the room.

Un Hijack

Just ban the bozo and stop quoting him!

[happyjosiah]

I think this is a great idea to allow it to be more accessable for kids. And I agree, hell/damn/etc. should stay.

CURRENTLY UNFILTERED (some may not matter):

****s
****s
****ter
****faced
pissed
*****
asses
bitchy
bitches
bastard
bastards
dicks
*****

[geddy lifeson]

I think this is a great idea to allow it to be more accessable for kids. And I agree, hell/darn/etc. should stay.

CURRENTLY UNFILTERED (some may not matter):

****s
****s
****ter
****faced
pissed
*****
asses
bitchy
bitches
bastard
bastards
dicks
*****
Well golly HJ...what a mouth! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually I was thinking... now when I talk about eating a sandwhich (preceding word unfiltered) people will think the wrong thing....I guess as long as I don't talk about eating pickles.

[InfinityMax]

Holy sweet Jeebus, Happy. That is a lot of cussin'.

[RichardD]

I said I also am undefeated in WI because I grew up in WI (I have since then moved to Boston).

What fantastic logic. I guess that makes me the US champion, because I've never been defeated there. The fact that I've never been to the US, and the fact that I can lose with an alarming degree of consistency to 10-year olds at demo games here in the UK, clearly does nothing to undermine my claim.

I wonder if I can call him a turdburglar?

EDIT - yup, that one passes the filter too :)

[hero]

I guess we need to filter "Jason"

[Hahnarama]

Imax, Rychean, and I drove from Dallas to Indy to get to GenCon. Balls up or shut up, dude.

You go Doc!

oh this is horrible. i was getting along so well with this ignore thing, but i am seeing posts again, by way of quotes. is there anyway for the ignore to include quotes?

I'm with Nipple Rings on this one. Truth please fix it or just ban this anus opening.

[DarkSpade]

I'm all for the replacement words, but can you make them make some kind of sense? Can't understand half the stuff Imax is saying.

I think I had most of them making some kind of sense. I think some were changed on me. I made a certain female organ Mustard just to mess with NWOs proclomation on that showstopper thread.


Another idea would be to simply replace all the bad words with stars *****

[hero]

You act like word choice would make a difference in undersanding what the frak iMax is saying. You have clearly never met the man in person, sober. He's always unintelligible

[Hahnarama]

Is Imax ever sober?

[DarkSpade]

You act like word choice would make a difference in undersanding what the frak iMax is saying. You have clearly never met the man in person, sober. He's always unintelligible

Well, i do know he's not a fan of watermelon in his mexican food.

[netherspirit]

You act like word choice would make a difference in undersanding what the frak iMax is saying. You have clearly never met the man in person, sober. He's always unintelligible

Well, i do know he's not a fan of watermelon in his mexican food.

Or BBQ Sauce.

[ninthdoc]

I guess we need to filter "Jason"

Yes, he's definitely a much larger problem to 'scapers than foul language. Beyond that "Jason" is one of the longer four letter words that I utter. The D/FW group often has their kids at their gatherings. I propose that we start saying "Jason" in place of "****". Any takers? Think of the children!

[ninthdoc]

Here is what I'm getting:


Could not connect to smtp host : 111 : Connection refused

DEBUG MODE

Line : 112
File : smtp.php

[DarkSpade]

I had the same problem with the debug error. Suprised I didn't end up with 10+ posts.

Try this doc. When you get the error, don't try to post again. Just go back to the thread, and refresh your browser.

[Codeman]

I guess we need to filter "Jason"

Yes, he's definitely a much larger problem to 'scapers than foul language. Beyond that "Jason" is one of the longer four letter words that I utter. The D/FW group often has their kids at their gatherings. I propose that we start saying "Jason" in place of "frack". Any takers? Think of the children!

Ninthdoc ... I agree with your intent, but maybe you should think of all the other good people named Jason out there! One bad Jason should not ruin the bunch! Again I do agree in principle with you.

[Grishnakh]

"Grishnakh play 'scape with Grishnakh but Grishnakh lost. Grishnakh proclaim Grishnakh be da Defeated Champion of Long Island." {No jokes about Grishnakh playing with himself please.}

{So.... if this is a family site now what do we do with the Tavern? Some crazy things go on in there. Most of it inspired lunacy but it has sometimes gone very lowbrow. Should we set up guidelines for it? Not trying to be difficult here just wondered what everyone thought. Some of the exchanges between a few members on the old site got very raunchy.}

[ninthdoc]

That was hella funny, Grishnakh! Over on the HQ, the bar was a rules free zone. I don't go to this one very often, but I do hope that tradition will stand for those who do.

[InfinityMax]

OK, that's enough fragging trash talk out of you sphincters. I'll have to go open up a can of whoop tuckus.

[Grishnakh]

Whoop Tuckus! Grishnakh love dat stuff! Grishnakh gonna serve Whoop Tuckus at Grishnakh's 200th post party in da Tavern in a few days. Dang, Whoop Tuckus.... takes Grishnakh back to when Grishnakh was a little orcling back in da swamp. Momma used to serve it hot over marshmallows. Good eats.

[lilwis]

OK, that's enough fragging trash talk out of you sphincters. I'll have to go open up a can of whoop tuckus.

Does it come with a side of fruit drizzled on top?

[funrun]

This thread has had me LOL all morning! Let me chime in with a few things:

Sorry, I don't know of any way to ignore quoted posts. Nor do I know of any way to force a user to use the quote button instead of copying and pasting text. :|

I was encountering the debug error this morning in PMs too. I haven't had the problem since. I have no idea what was happening or what fixed it, but the hosting company moved the site over to the dedicated server yesterday so I wouldn't be surprised if that caused some problems.

Doc_Savage I was lol at the thread hijack to get off the previous thread hijack and back on the topic, but next time you thread hijack, use the appropriate icon!
:hijacked:

wisinger, er "Nipple Rings", I think that needs to be your title. Opposed? PM me now or forever hold your peace!

[lilwis]

wisinger, er "Nipple Rings", I think that needs to be your title. Opposed? PM me now or forever hold your peace!

:lol: That would be just lovuh-lee.

[funrun]

wisinger, er "Nipple Rings", I think that needs to be your title. Opposed? PM me now or forever hold your peace!

:lol: That would be just lovuh-lee.The wife approves, and so it is be done!

Jason needed an appropriate title too. . .

[wisinger]

Wow that was fast. i am just suprised it didn't come out something like:

milkgland ringers (j/k)

thank you very much ladies, both for the change and for the approval of the change. Now i know better then showing off any other piercing i might have, or get.

[funrun]

Wow that was fast. i am just suprised it didn't come out something like:

milkgland ringers (j/k)

thank you very much ladies, both for the change and for the approval of the change. Now i know better then showing off any other piercing i might have, or get.Wow that is tempting, you better watch out what you suggest!

[lilwis]

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[funrun]

OMG that avatar is great lilwis!

For the record, I was saying that "milkgland ringers" was a good title suggestion, but maybe you had something else on your mind cuz. . .

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that is an interesting shape.



I think we both owe a few now
:quarter: :quarter: :quarter:

[geddy lifeson]

Whoop Tuckus! Grishnakh love dat stuff! Grishnakh gonna serve Whoop Tuckus at Grishnakh's 200th post party in da Tavern in a few days. Dang, Whoop Tuckus.... takes Grishnakh back to when Grishnakh was a little orcling back in da swamp. Momma used to serve it hot over marshmallows. Good eats.

I am sure some people would rather not eat Whoop Tuckus, I believe NWO Jedi would rather have some sandwhich and tossed salad. Me, I love the Whoop Tuckus...I will be at the party Grish!

[lilwis]

Okay..sorry but I had to change my avi.
I'm trying to follow your lead and stay incongnito, funrun ;)

..and in no way, shape, of form of any kind is this directed at Jason at all or with any elitism.

[funrun]

Whatever do you mean. . . Jason is "related to Jesus or Martin Luther King", you can't get any more elite than that!

I am sad to see the avatar go though, but your new one is getting around the language filters ;)

[Hahnarama]

Nipple Rings.....it would be funny if I hadn't been scared at the RAM.

[bunjee]

yeah, well, the language filters will probably see some changes over time. I agree with a number of the members that some of the words probably don't need censoring, we'll see how it plays out.

oh, and ascii art! shame shame, lilwis! :wink:

[countblah]

Douchebag? Mmm, still works.

[Xotli]

(I can't load the very last page of this thread for some reason, so pardon me if I'm repeating anything.)

Okay, so in general I'm fine with this change. I won't go so far as to say I support it or applaud it as some of the previous posts did ("cursing is the lowest form of communication"? nope, that wasn't offensive in the least)--censorship is censorship, and censorship for a good cause is, well, still censorship--BUT I do support the reasoning behind the decision, so it's fine. It isn't going to hurt my feelings one whit that I won't see "****" on the forums any more. (Although I do find it interesting that I never used the word myself until the filters were implemented.)

However ... tuckus? TUCKUS?? Come on people! The word in question can be found in G-rated movies, on the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon, even on billboards. There's really no reason for trying to censor it out. Plus, it isn't removing anything offensive anyway; it's just making otherwise clear text very confusing. Monks are not badtuckuses. No one is going to open up any cans of whooptuckus. No one here is a dumbtuckus (not even Jason!). It's just silly.

You know, the "slippery slope" argument gets a lot of ... whatever the proper redaction these days is. I even give it a lot of that myself when I hear it. But I think that here we may actually have an example that proves that the argument has some validity ...

[geddy lifeson]

Douchebag? Mmm, still works.

There are still a few out there that are pretty bad, but not used by those as vulgar as myself. Urban dictionary probably has many, many items that fly past the filters.

You would think you could use an * to apply any variations on a word you want filtered to catch all the strange leftovers.

[funrun]

You would think you could use an * to apply any variations on a word you want filtered to catch all the strange leftovers.We can. :)

[InfinityMax]

No one is going to open up any cans of whooptuckus.

I totally am.

[geddy lifeson]

You would think you could use an * to apply any variations on a word you want filtered to catch all the strange leftovers.We can. :)

Not things like:

(pardon my language)

cuntbag
****nugget
assmunch
cumgurgler


Sorry, just trying to help.

[ninthdoc]

You would think you could use an * to apply any variations on a word you want filtered to catch all the strange leftovers.We can. :)

Not things like:

(pardon my language)

cuntbag
****nugget
assmunch
cumgurgler


Sorry, just trying to help.

OMG! OMG! OMFG! I can't stop laughing. geddy seems like the nicest most unassuming person in the world when you meet him in person. Just knowing that came from him... OMG! I can't stop laughing. Jason Christ make it stop!

[Revdyer]

Jason is "related to Jesus or Martin Luther King", you can't get any more elite than that!

I beg to disagree, funrun. "Presbyterian bodhisattva" is, if not more, at least equally elite. :P

[Xotli]

No one is going to open up any cans of whooptuckus.

I totally am.
Well, okay, fair enough.

But my point being, whether I'm philosophically opposed to the idea of censorship isn't keeping me from being practical about it. And, practically, having "****" replaced with "frack" in the few posts that I've ever seen it in is not going to change my enjoyment of the forum one little bit. So I got no beef with that.

But this type of thing:

My arguement is they are Shaolin and are so badd tuckus they can leap or drop 12 from their starting position.
which I've already seen several times since the filters got put up, is just weird and vaguely annoying.

So I'm voting that have that one word removed from the filters. Nothing more.

(Interesting point the second: There has been more "cursing" in this thread announcing no more cursing than there has been in the rest of the history of the board put together. :))

[ultradoug]

I cant let my kid read this topic!

[DoesntCompute]

Thanks Truth!

[happyjosiah]

Filter is looking good. Missing only two now:

"I am having an extremely ***** day so don't mess with me you dicks"

[wisinger]

not sure if this is possible of not. while on a conceptual level, i am against censorship in general. i also, would not let my children read these boards, based on the occasional content. but i also enjoy throwing comments / remarks out that i look over my shoulder and make sure they are not looking before i post, etc.

What i was thinking, is there a way to put in a Community (I think that is what they are called), that requires user logon. throw in Date of Birth in the profile, and if you are over 18, then bam, it magically appears only for registered members over 18. yes i know, there is no stop gap for age verification, etc. but something like that would be a nice deterent, and give us a place to explore, discuss topics, without worrying (overmuch) about younger / delicate eyes viewing the topics.

Just something i thought about.

[funrun]

wisinger, I assume you are saying the filter should only apply if you are under 18? Sorry, that's a new code/ third party thing.

[wisinger]

i was thinking in a specific community? or maybe some way to redirect a community, to another site on the same server (since we have a dedicated resource now). but yes, a isolated environment where the filters were given a break. oh well.

[Xotli]

I cant let my kid read this topic!
Hmph. My kid would find this topic very boring ... there's nothing here he hasn't heard before. :wink:

[geddy lifeson]

My daughter can't read yet...thank god.

My apologies if I offended anyone, I was just making a joke about the lack of intelligence in the filters. I quit coding after getting my degree (HATED IT, don't ask me why I still got the degree) and I know the limitations of software.

Besides, I had to throw down after HJs display the other night :D

[happyjosiah]

:lol: Haha!

Yeah, I have seen boards have the option to be filtered or unfiltered. No idea how hard that would be to code in, but perhaps it would make everyone happy. (Have it censored by default)

[Agent Minivann]

Censored by default, uncensored is only available with a donation. :D

[Xotli]

Yeah, I have seen boards have the option to be filtered or unfiltered. No idea how hard that would be to code in, but perhaps it would make everyone happy. (Have it censored by default)
Ooh, ooh, yeah, maybe even ...

Censored by default, uncensored is only available with a donation. :D
Damn ... beat me to it.

Yeah, what Agent Minivann said. I'd be willing to pay for that, and I can't afford to pay for anything since my last kid was born. :)

[Agent Minivann]

Funny thing is I'd probably leave the censor on. I get a kick out of watching TV edits of movies. The substitute swear words really make me laugh. There is the odd time I think a movie is funnier with the edit. That and I'd be more willing to let my boy lurk on my account.

[Agent Minivann]

I just had an epiphany (wow used that word twice in a week, well 7 continuous days). For a fund raiser, if you donate a certain amount of money you get a picture emailed to you that has the rest of Funrun's face. :P

[Venom]

I just had an epiphany (wow used that word twice in a week, well 7 continuous days). For a fund raiser, if you donate a certain amount of money you get a picture emailed to you that has the rest of Funrun's face. :P

must be a high donation.

[thehandofzarquon]

Censored by default, uncensored is only available with a donation. :DMeh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P

[hero]

Censored by default, uncensored is only available with a donation. :DMeh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P

Really? Which one? Or do you mean you could just write one that would convert the censored words back to the uncensored version for local display. 'cause if someone figured out how to pull something directly out of Mysql I'd be a bit worried.

[Xotli]

Meh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P
Now that is the most useful post in this thread by far.

Do you already have such a script? If so, care to share? :)

[Xotli]

Really? Which one? Or do you mean you could just write one that would convert the censored words back to the uncensored version for local display. 'cause if someone figured out how to pull something directly out of Mysql I'd be a bit worried.
From my quick perusal of GreaseMonkey, it looks like it only rewrites HTML on the fly. I don't see any way for it to access anything server-side.

Still a useful extension tho.

[CupidsArt]

why frack? why not my subsitute, flip or flippin', or flipper?

Lobo.

I'm glad your making a more adult and child safe environment, :)

[ninthdoc]

Frak was originally from the first Battlestar Galactica. I do acknowledge Lobo, but I was shooting for a BSG theme when I requested "feldercarb" to go w/"frak".

[thehandofzarquon]

Meh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P
Now that is the most useful post in this thread by far.

Do you already have such a script? If so, care to share? :)

Edit: I got it working, so far it only does "****" and "****"... but I don't know anymore of the replacements... if someone can be kind enough to email me a list of the words and their replacement to thehandofzarquon@gmail.com, I'd be grateful, as would others, I'm sure :)

If you want the current version I have, send me a PM.

Some considerations:
You need to use Firefox and have the Greasemonkey extension installed. I might eventually turn this into its own Firefox extension, if there is enough interest...

It replaces words only in the Span tags with classes of "postbody" and "postdetails" and td's using the class "quote". If there are another places a swear is used, it won't get replaced.

If the person actually uses the replacement words, they will be replaced with the swear equivalent... so, I likely won't include any of the replacements that use normal, everyday words (like how the Elderscrolls forums (used?) to replace ass with a "a spotted owl" or some such).

Right now, it's case insensitive, so it will find all variants of capitalization, but what it returns will not match the case (it will replace it with the lower case equivalent), I'll try to see if I can fix that at some point :P Edit: Well, since I just noticed the base filter doesn't do this either... I guess it really doesn't matter, does it? :wink:

You can customize the list as well by adding the words and replacements to the appropriate arrays at the top of the script. I'm sure someone will find some use for that :wink:

All in all, I'd say it's not bad for a v0.1 :P

As a disclaimer: This does NOT in ANYWAY make any changes to the heroscapers.com site itself, it mearly edits the HTML code as it is recieved by anyone that has the script installed and enabled.

[Agent Minivann]

Meh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P
Now that is the most useful post in this thread by far.

Do you already have such a script? If so, care to share? :)

Edit: I got it working, so far it only does "feldercarb" and "frack"... but I don't know anymore of the replacements... if someone can be kind enough to email me a list of the words and their replacement to thehandofzarquon@gmail.com, I'd be grateful, as would others, I'm sure :)

If you want the current version I have, send me a PM.

Some considerations:
You need to use Firefox and have the Greasemonkey extension installed. I might eventually turn this into its own Firefox extension, if there is enough interest...

It replaces words only in the Span tags with classes of "postbody" and "postdetails" and td's using the class "quote". If there are another places a swear is used, it won't get replaced.

If the person actually uses the replacement words, they will be replaced with the swear equivalent... so, I likely won't include any of the replacements that use normal, everyday words (like how the Elderscrolls forums (used?) to replace *** with a "a spotted owl" or some such).

Right now, it's case insensitive, so it will find all variants of capitalization, but what it returns will not match the case (it will replace it with the lower case equivalent), I'll try to see if I can fix that at some point :P Edit: Well, since I just noticed the base filter doesn't do this either... I guess it really doesn't matter, does it? :wink:

You can customize the list as well by adding the words and replacements to the appropriate arrays at the top of the script. I'm sure someone will find some use for that :wink:

All in all, I'd say it's not bad for a v0.1 :P

As a disclaimer: This does NOT in ANYWAY make any changes to the heroscapers.com site itself, it mearly edits the HTML code as it is recieved by anyone that has the script installed and enabled.

* looks around

Psst- you can type all kinds of colorful metaphors in a post and press the preview button and see what they are changed to.

[thehandofzarquon]

Meh, I can uncensor it myself using a Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/) script :P
Now that is the most useful post in this thread by far.

Do you already have such a script? If so, care to share? :)

Edit: I got it working, so far it only does "feldercarb" and "frack"... but I don't know anymore of the replacements... if someone can be kind enough to email me a list of the words and their replacement to thehandofzarquon@gmail.com, I'd be grateful, as would others, I'm sure :)

If you want the current version I have, send me a PM.

Some considerations:
You need to use Firefox and have the Greasemonkey extension installed. I might eventually turn this into its own Firefox extension, if there is enough interest...

It replaces words only in the Span tags with classes of "postbody" and "postdetails" and td's using the class "quote". If there are another places a swear is used, it won't get replaced.

If the person actually uses the replacement words, they will be replaced with the swear equivalent... so, I likely won't include any of the replacements that use normal, everyday words (like how the Elderscrolls forums (used?) to replace *** with a "a spotted owl" or some such).

Right now, it's case insensitive, so it will find all variants of capitalization, but what it returns will not match the case (it will replace it with the lower case equivalent), I'll try to see if I can fix that at some point :P Edit: Well, since I just noticed the base filter doesn't do this either... I guess it really doesn't matter, does it? :wink:

You can customize the list as well by adding the words and replacements to the appropriate arrays at the top of the script. I'm sure someone will find some use for that :wink:

All in all, I'd say it's not bad for a v0.1 :P

As a disclaimer: This does NOT in ANYWAY make any changes to the heroscapers.com site itself, it mearly edits the HTML code as it is recieved by anyone that has the script installed and enabled.

* looks around

Psst- you can type all kinds of colorful metaphors in a post and press the preview button and see what they are changed to.Yes, yes... but that spoils the fun... :wink: besides, I'm too lazy at the moment, maybe later tonight when hardly anyone is on :P

[Xotli]

Of course, now I see that damn is replaced by stars, which may screw up the GreaseMonkey script.

And can I just say again ... damn? Really, now. Also commonly heard in G-rated movies, on the Disney Channel, etc. Can we just adopt a policy that any word they allow on the Disney Channel should be allowed on the forum? That doesn't seem unreasonable.

Also, I'm still in favor of allowing paying members to see the uncensored text. Hell, I'll write the code for you if I have to.

(PS--I can say "hell" but I can't say "damn"?? :bang: )

[geddy lifeson]

Of course, now I see that **** is replaced by stars, which may screw up the GreaseMonkey script.

And can I just say again ... ****? Really, now. Also commonly heard in G-rated movies, on the Disney Channel, etc. Can we just adopt a policy that any word they allow on the Disney Channel should be allowed on the forum? That doesn't seem unreasonable.

Also, I'm still in favor of allowing paying members to see the uncensored text. Hell, I'll write the code for you if I have to.

(PS--I can say "hell" but I can't say "****"?? :bang: )

While **** may be replaced by ****, page 15 still has a few good ones that apparently aren't considered that bad.

[Agent Minivann]

Of course, now I see that darn is replaced by stars, which may screw up the GreaseMonkey script.

And can I just say again ... darn? Really, now. Also commonly heard in G-rated movies, on the Disney Channel, etc. Can we just adopt a policy that any word they allow on the Disney Channel should be allowed on the forum? That doesn't seem unreasonable.

Also, I'm still in favor of allowing paying members to see the uncensored text. Hell, I'll write the code for you if I have to.

(PS--I can say "hell" but I can't say "darn"?? :bang: )

I once saw a movie that I was fairly familiar with on the Disney Channel. The original movie had the word "dingaling" in it (yes referring to a "pickle") and the edit had the word "bamboo". I can't decide which is worse, a made up word, or a word for a plant that grows fast and is somewhat phallic.

[Grungebob]

I could be wrong but it almost seems as if folks are posting MORE swear words to enjoy the novelty of it... I say go for the stars ***** Or do it up right: :star: :star: :star: :star:

Imagine what I said that rated those stars?? :shock:

[ultradoug]

boobiescape.

[Xotli]

I could be wrong but it almost seems as if folks are posting MORE swear words to enjoy the novelty of it...
Yes, that was one of my points. Efforts like this to "curtail" the "cursing" inevitably only make it worse.

The other reason that efforts like these are problematic (although well-intentioned, certainly: I freely admitted that) is that they (also inevitably) get out of hand. For instance ...

The word A_S_S_U_M_E is now redacted, presumably because it contains "ass". I think we've officially gone too far at this point.

Is there some effort going on to standardize this stuff? What can I do to help? Seriously, I'm not just out here bitching; I'm perfectly willing to pitch in and do what it takes to keep the forum from degenerating into an illegible morass of stars and cutesy-but-obscure terms for things that weren't even meant in the first place.

Please let me know how I can help.

(In a twist of irony that I honestly could not have planned if I'd tried, the last batch of stars up there is the word M_O_R_A_S_S. I trust I needn't say anything further on this point.)

[UranusPChicago]

Has anyone else noticed that the 4th M a s s now shows up as 4th Mass? Is there a way to scale back the filter in some situations?

P a s s shows up as pass as well.

I happen to think that the 4th Mass kicks ass.

[brokeasajoke]

I could be wrong but it almost seems as if folks are posting MORE swear words to enjoy the novelty of it...

Yeah, that has definitely been the case. But I think that is only because it is new. Once the filter gets settled, this will get old & I think people will return to normal.

That, or instead of using a filter, just "do stuff" to people's account everytime you see them using bad language. Ninthdoc cussing? BAM! Give him an "I luv Jason" avatar. Stuff like that. :screwy:

[Revdyer]

An "I love xyz" avatar (with whoever is acting up at the moment) would be a definite disincentive.

[Agent Minivann]

I say go for the stars ***** Or do it up right: :star: :star: :star: :star:

You don't have to yell.

[bunjee]

let us know, and we can fix them

assume
morass

hmm, gonna have to try that again, probably will need to pull the * off the end of the 3 letter a word

[ninthdoc]

assume
morass

Ass? U? Me?
More ass?

[UranusPChicago]

Has anyone else noticed that the 4th M a s s now shows up as 4th Mass? Is there a way to scale back the filter in some situations?

P a s s shows up as pass as well.

I happen to think that the 4th Mass kicks ***.

let us know, and we can fix them

After you adjusted the filter, my prior post seems to be the babblings of a mad man.

[Xotli]

hmm, gonna have to try that again, probably will need to pull the * off the end of the 3 letter a word
That's better.

But I still say that "the 3 letter a word" is not particularly offensive, and, even if some people think it is, it's everywhere. There's no need for us to try to protect children (or whomsoever) from things that they're exposed to every day already.

What do the preachers have to say on the topic?

[brokeasajoke]

But I still say that "the 3 letter a word" is not particularly offensive, and, even if some people think it is, it's everywhere. There's no need for us to try to protect children (or whomsoever) from things that they're exposed to every day already.

What do the preachers have to say on the topic?

Words such as "damn" or "hell" aren't inherently cuss words, but they can be used as cuss words. The same can be said of "Jesus Christ." That certainly isn't a cuss word, but many people use it as one. I don't think these words should be filtered.

I would include the 3 letter word as a cuss word. It is used in the KJV, but I would guess it didn't have the same connotation it has today. Language & words change over time. You don't have to read very far into a KJV to realize that the English language has changed a lot in the past few centuries (and believe it or not, the KJVs readily available in the bookstores today have had their English updated a lot since the original printing). I don't know of too many people who use the non-vulgar meaning of that word anymore.

Also bear in mind that what might be a cuss word in England might be a perfectly innocent word in America, & so on. So ultimately, no language filter would be perfect. But just because perfection isn't practical, that doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile to strive for it.

I don't think just because kids have heard cuss words means we shouldn't bother to restrain its use. The more you hear something, the more likely you are to pick it up. So I think every little bit helps. As I see it - in regards to profanity - you are either part of the problem, or part of the solution. After all, every kid that uses certain words had to learn them from someone. I have decided that they will not learn it from me, nor will I reinforce someone's bad habit.

As far as what the Bible teaches on the subject - Ephesians 5:3-5, Luke 6:43-45, & James 3:6-12.