The Great Sir Hawthorne Giveaway!!

[Grungebob]

Last year we had a popularity contest and gave away a few Neraks. There was some whining about that method so this year we made a list and are giving away our extra Sir Hawthornes. We are of course giving most of them to folks who have directly helped our site or our events. There were some who were on this list but have been very vocal in a negative way about exclusives. Those individuals were removed from the list. The following individuals need to contact me with their addresses asap: If any of you on this list already have a Sir Hawthorne then please announce it here so that we may give it away to someone else.
H_E_H
Oogie
Cupid
Malechi
Josh-n-Papa
Atmospro
Logery
Doc_Savage
Jim
Annerios
Mr. Bristo
LordRaidor
Revdyer
Caravaggio

[Finrod]

Wow.

um...

Congrats to those on the list.

[hextr1p]

:D

Good list! It's easy to run down the list and attribute positive reasons as to why these members were chosen to receive the fig.

And I agree with Finrod in offering congratulations to those above, as well as offering a word of thanks for what they do for the game here on 'Scapers.com, and outside of the site, as well.

CONGRATS AND THANKS TO ALL!

[B:T:L Matt]

I agree with you guys that they're deserving of it when they've constantly made contributions for the community here and of the now defunct HQ.

Lucky bastards... I'll have to wait until the giveaway is done and see if there is anyone that might have an extra they're willing to trade something for...

I bought an expansion pack for a Nerak before... Many might think I was crazy for spending $13 for a Nerak, but I saw it as, I get what I want and the trader gets what he wants... Both parties are left happy.

[LilNewbie]

Grats to everyone listed!


Newb.

[truth]

The list was actually alot easier to make this year. As so MANY peeps who would deserve one were at the Con! :)

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

[yagyuninja]

Wow, cool stuff. Congratulations, folks. :)

[ultradoug]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :)

[K/H_Addict]

congrats to those on the list. I wish i was on there....oh well. Better luck to me (and others not on the list) next year!

[Kepler]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

Now they will hate exclusives even more! :shock:

[truth]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

Now they will hate exclusives even more! :shock:

I don't understand this line of thinking. Unless the fact is that they LOVE the exclusives and just hate not having them. And if that is the case then that's what they should be saying.

[Grungebob]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

Now they will hate exclusives even more! :shock:That is totally their thing then. They can gripe about it if they want.

[Kepler]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

Now they will hate exclusives even more! :shock:

I don't understand this line of thinking. Unless the fact is that they LOVE the exclusives and just hate not having them. And if that is the case then that's what they should be saying.

I think they love the figures, they just hate the fact that they have to pay an arm and a leg to get one off ebay. At least I think they think that.

[Kepler]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

Now they will hate exclusives even more! :shock:That is totally their thing then. They can gripe about it if they want.

I don't think that will be a problem. :mrgreen:

[allskulls]

Oogie - Did I call it or what? :D

Big ups to the GC HSers...GBob & Truth...and all others sending the love.

[yanks114kd]

Congrats to those on the list. What is the big deal about exclusives? If you want one go to Gencon where they will most likely give you one. As in my case I was unable to go to Gencon so I bought mine for $30.00 off of e-bay. I could not have went to gencon for $30.00 so I am happy. I really don't see the problem with exclusives.

[happyjosiah]

Everyone on there is well-deserving. I could think of a few more people as well, however I beleive that this is a final list, not accepting nominations, correct?
Great job! I like how you narrowed the field :lol:

[truth]

Everyone on there is well-deserving. I could think of a few more people as well, however I beleive that this is a final list, not accepting nominations, correct?
Great job! I like how you narrowed the field :lol:

Note HJ that we already know about some members that are getting them from other sources so some that you think deserve one may already have one on the way.

[happyjosiah]

This is true. I also don't know the exhaustive list of who went to GenCon. Right then. Carry on! :D

[Agent Minivann]

Good list, but where is Parduz? Congrats to those on the list. Wish I was there with you.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

:passout:

I'm speechless.

Thank you very very much.

[CupidsArt]

Thanks for putting me on the list, it just gives me more insentive to do lots of stuff for the site before gencon next year...... :lol:

[Finrod]

I like exclusives... :cry:

Seriously, congrats again, everyone. Well deserved to those whom I know, and to those whom I don't... I trust Truth (how can you not trust a man with that name?).

[InfinityMax]

Agent Mini! Great call! Parduz definitely needs one. We use his Solidscape for the Codex all the time. He spent a ludicrous amount of time making sure that thing worked with all the stuff we needed it to do.

[Annerios]

:passout:

I'm speechless.

Thank you very very much.

:passout: :passout:

Double that for me.

This afternoon has been a pain so far, so this is a nice surprise. :D

Thank you!

With any luck I'll be at Gencon next year and be able to pick up an exclusive for other Heroscapers and return the favor.

[Malechi]

Wow! I am stunned. I leave for a few days, spend the next few in bed recovering from mild food-poisoning (don't eat the shrimp at a casino buffet!) and find this thread! I literally fell out of my chair, of course, my recouperation dizziness didn't help the situation!

:D


... I am off to do a little dance and trip over furniture! ... *BANG-CRASH* Owwwww!

[TC McQueen]

That is really cool that you are doing that. Congrats to all on the LIST. I will have to try and be a better member so that maybe I can get lucky next time.

[markwars]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

So it's almost like Sir H gave them a Back Stab? :P

[LilNewbie]

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

So it's almost like Sir H gave them a Back Stab? :P

They should not have turned their back on Sir H. :D

Newb.

[Skeletor]

Dang it I need to hang out on these boards more to make free giveaway lists.

Did I mention I love all you guys?

[Filbey]

Congrats and I think that it is a great thing for you guys to do! :D

[ferzle]

I should get one for not causing any trouble in a while.

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

"You offer it to me freely??? I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this."

Holy Crappolla!!! :wtf!:

I too have been having a suck ass day (Budget planning for all next year), and stumble on this gem. :excited:

All I can see is, "Thanks."

and

"OH YEAH!!!" :koolaid:

[markwars]

Dang it I need to hang out on these boards more to make free giveaway lists.

Did I mention I love all you guys?

You were probably on the list, but after your post stating that "exclusives ruin this game" you were removed. :P

[geddy lifeson]

That is really cool that you are doing that. Congrats to all on the LIST. I will have to try and be a better member so that maybe I can get lucky next time.

Wouldn't it be great if we could all get lucky...oh, and at Heroscape giveaways as well.

[markwars]

geddy, look at the way your avatar is looking at mine. :shock:

[Doc_Savage]

Thank you so much guys!

That Rocks!

Doc Jr. will be thrilled!

I like exclamation points almost as much as dots........

[bad_calvin]

Wow, now that is just plain cool of you all! Congrats to all of those on the list! GB you could not have picked more desrving folks! Thanks for all you do!

Last year we had a popularity contest and gave
away a few Neraks. There was some whining about that method so this year we made a list and are giving away our extra Sir Hawthornes. We are of course giving most of them to folks who have directly helped our site or our events. There were some who were on this list but have been very vocal in a negative way about exclusives. Those individuals were removed from the list. The following individuals need to contact me with their addresses asap: If any of you on this list already have a Sir Hawthorne then please announce it here so that we may give it away to someone else.
H_E_H
Oogie
Cupid
Malechi
Josh-n-Papa
Atmospro
Logery
Doc_Savage
Jim
Annerios
Mr. Bristo
LordRaidor
Revdyer
Caravaggio

[bad_calvin]

Maybe you can trade a Nerak for it.. heh

I should get one for not causing any trouble in a while.

[Finrod]

"OH YEAH!!!" :koolaid:

Dang it, Oogie! We just FIXED that wall!!!

[Teamski]

Congrads to all!

-Ski

[gibberish_47]

Thank you all so much... oh, wait, I didn't make the list? :cry:

Oh well. Congrats to all that did make the list! :D

[atmospro]

Gentlemen I am completely honoured and humbled. I don't know what to say other than Thanx very much.

Atmospro

[Grungebob]

I'm getting some addresses here but not as many as I need!!

[josh-n-papa]

Thank You

I'm proud and honored to be considered for this list.

[Venom]

There were some who were on this list but have been very vocal in a negative way about exclusives. Those individuals were removed from the list.

haha!! :bump: :blowup:

[InfinityMax]

OK, seriously, Parduz needs one of these if we have to ship it to Italy (and we would). I'll cover the shipping. The Codex uses Solidscape for nearly all our scenarios, and Parduz really, really deserves one. Do you guys have a spare we can send him?

[Karkadinn]

Would it worsen my public standing any if I called 'bull' on that line in red in the first post? I mean, you can object to exclusives for any number of reasons, and many of those reasons would be very legitimate, but it goes without saying that everyone wants Sir H. even if they don't like him being exclusive. And philosophically objecting to exclusives removing you from the list only seems like it'd make people more bitter, and that's not what we want, is it? Seems like using physical prizes to discourage freedom of expression: Like exclusives or you don't get one! Me no likie.
In fact, while I'm babbling, I'd like to say that I really don't like these oh-so-public give-aways/contests for exclusives at all. It's like dogs fighting over bones. Since obviously everyone wants one, why not just privately give them out to those you see fit as being worthy? What's the advantage of putting a spotlight on it and making people compete?
I know y'all're just trying to be generous and all, and I do approve in theory, I just think y'all're going about it in the wrong way.

[Mud Turkey 13]

I'm getting some addresses here but not as many as I need!!

I could give you mine if you're running low...

[Kane]

Thanks to the folks that won for their hard work for the community. Good to see it being recognized!

[Venom]

can't wait till next years exclusive

[Teamski]

I know y'all're just trying to be generous and all, and I do approve in theory, I just think y'all're going about it in the wrong way.

I think you are on target, and you aren't alone in feeling this way.

-Ski

[Agent Minivann]

OK, seriously, Parduz needs one of these if we have to ship it to Italy (and we would). I'll cover the shipping. The Codex uses Solidscape for nearly all our scenarios, and Parduz really, really deserves one. Do you guys have a spare we can send him?

I'll throw in a donation to get one to Parduz as well. With as much as my kids like playing with Solidscape, I'd say I owe it to him.

[Grungebob]

Truth just PM'd me...We will take care of Parduz, if we can.

[happyjosiah]

Would it worsen my public standing any if I called 'bull' on that line in red in the first post? I mean, you can object to exclusives for any number of reasons, and many of those reasons would be very legitimate, but it goes without saying that everyone wants Sir H. even if they don't like him being exclusive. And philosophically objecting to exclusives removing you from the list only seems like it'd make people more bitter, and that's not what we want, is it? Seems like using physical prizes to discourage freedom of expression: Like exclusives or you don't get one! Me no likie.
In fact, while I'm babbling, I'd like to say that I really don't like these oh-so-public give-aways/contests for exclusives at all. It's like dogs fighting over bones. Since obviously everyone wants one, why not just privately give them out to those you see fit as being worthy? What's the advantage of putting a spotlight on it and making people compete?
I know y'all're just trying to be generous and all, and I do approve in theory, I just think y'all're going about it in the wrong way.

I know what you mean, but let's face it: they aren't elminating those people from the list because they seriously think they don't want one. They are eliminating them because they don't like their attitudes. You can agree or disagree with that reasoning, but it's still their perrogative. I can give a sir hawthorne to someone just because I like their avatar or because of the color of their socks. This is simply a way they have selected to choose which lucky people shall recieve said prizes.

[markwars]

I think the folks on the list should have a wet t-shirt contest to see who gets it. :explode:

[noodles]

I'm not going to lie....I'm a little jealous of being excluded on the list. I hope I wasn't too negative, truth be told, I can't even remember what I said in the Hawthorne thread.

Anyways, congrats to the people who did make the list.

[Karkadinn]

I know what you mean, but let's face it: they aren't elminating those people from the list because they seriously think they don't want one. They are eliminating them because they don't like their attitudes. You can agree or disagree with that reasoning, but it's still their perrogative. I can give a sir hawthorne to someone just because I like their avatar or because of the color of their socks. This is simply a way they have selected to choose which lucky people shall recieve said prizes.

Well, yes, it's their prerogative, but it's not very conducive to a healthy community to be airing the division so blatantly in public. And it's most certainly very different from something random like sock color. It's over a relevant issue with actual emotions and intelligent thoughts tied up into it. Is this really what we want to do? Make it publicly known that we're punishing people for disagreeing with our school of thought?
I disagree with the basic principle of it entirely and wholeheartedly. I refuse to support anything that would make people hesitant to freely air their opinions on a hotly-debated subject.

[Grungebob]

I know what you mean, but let's face it: they aren't elminating those people from the list because they seriously think they don't want one. They are eliminating them because they don't like their attitudes. You can agree or disagree with that reasoning, but it's still their perrogative. I can give a sir hawthorne to someone just because I like their avatar or because of the color of their socks. This is simply a way they have selected to choose which lucky people shall recieve said prizes.

Well, yes, it's their prerogative, but it's not very conducive to a healthy community to be airing the division so blatantly in public. And it's most certainly very different from something random like sock color. It's over a relevant issue with actual emotions and intelligent thoughts tied up into it. Is this really what we want to do? Make it publicly known that we're punishing people for disagreeing with our school of thought?
I disagree with the basic principle of it entirely and wholeheartedly. I refuse to support anything that would make people hesitant to freely air their opinions on a hotly-debated subject.

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

[Kepler]

Well, yes, it's their prerogative, but it's not very conducive to a healthy community to be airing the division so blatantly in public.

Well said. If they wanted to exclude certain people for airing an opinion that is their right, a little childish, but it is their right. The mistake was publically stating that people were eliminated for such reasons.

[bad_calvin]

umm...

Lets just be happy for those that won. *shrug* Me personally I don't like to worry about not gaining something I didn't have to begin with. no loss.

The people on the list have all done something respectivly for the community, and there are more that have done stuff for the community that are not on the list. those are just the folks that got the luck of the draw.

I agree there are other people that may deserve one as well, but those that got it by no means did not deserve it.

So as I said before. Awesome, I think it is cool that they are giving them out to those folks! Well deserved and I am sure that they will be appreciated!

[Kepler]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.

[happyjosiah]

Yeah, I took Truth's statement as tongue-in-cheek...

[Kepler]

umm...

Lets just be happy for those that won. *shrug* Me personally I don't like to worry about not gaining something I didn't have to begin with. no loss.

The people on the list have all done something respectivly for the community, and there are more that have done stuff for the community that are not on the list. those are just the folks that got the luck of the draw.

I agree there are other people that may deserve one as well, but those that got it by no means did not deserve it.

So as I said before. Awesome, I think it is cool that they are giving them out to those folks! Well deserved and I am sure that they will be appreciated!

No one is criticizing the people who will be getting a SH (at least I missed it if they did). I (and a couple others) are just criticizing the way GB and Truth took an unnecessary shot at people who criticized the whole exclusives idea.

[Grungebob]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

[markwars]

No matter how the staff handled this someone would have complaints. That's just the way it is on an internet message board.

[Kepler]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

I don't really care who you give them to. I am just saying that I think your reasoning is flawed. I don't believe that those that hate exclusives hate the figs and cards. They hate the fact that they are not widely available.

Btw, I don't mind the complaining about exclusives. I personally don't really care that much, but it other want to complain then have at it.

[Kepler]

No matter how the staff handled this someone would have complaints. That's just the way it is on an internet message board.

That may be true, but I still think the public shot at the complainers was uncalled for by the board administration and will not serve to strengthen the community.

That is my only complaint. If they had not taken that shot then I really can't see anyone criticizing this move. They people on the list were well deserving IMO.

[ninthdoc]

Would it worsen my public standing any if I called 'bull' on that line in red in the first post? I mean, you can object to exclusives for any number of reasons, and many of those reasons would be very legitimate, but it goes without saying that everyone wants Sir H. even if they don't like him being exclusive. And philosophically objecting to exclusives removing you from the list only seems like it'd make people more bitter, and that's not what we want, is it? Seems like using physical prizes to discourage freedom of expression: Like exclusives or you don't get one! Me no likie.
In fact, while I'm babbling, I'd like to say that I really don't like these oh-so-public give-aways/contests for exclusives at all. It's like dogs fighting over bones. Since obviously everyone wants one, why not just privately give them out to those you see fit as being worthy? What's the advantage of putting a spotlight on it and making people compete?
I know y'all're just trying to be generous and all, and I do approve in theory, I just think y'all're going about it in the wrong way.

I understand that you appear to feel that this is not right to "tell" people that they are being dis-included, but I feel that there is some merit to publicly posting whom will be getting one. It makes others think, "why did that guy get one?" Then they can read the lucky one's posts, contibutions, and conduct and see what merited them receiving a cool freebie.

To further comment on why I do support the statement that certain folks have been dis-included, I'd have to say that bashing the aspects of the game when it was very possible that there would be an exclusive based upon last year's giveaway is not positive or productive to Heroscape, Hasbro, this site, or this community.

I managed to get an extra one that I'm sending to a deserving person. I could have very easily sold it on eBay, but that's not what this community is about.

My final words about the dislike of the notification that people were dis-included would be that the admins put in the charter that they have final authority over the content and conduct on this site. Love it or leave it, but please don't go, seriously, so just love it, 'kay?

[InfinityMax]

Man, that's rich. It reminds me of how, every time we release a Codex, about a quarter of our feedback is complaining - from people who did precisely jack squat. Nothing makes me want to throw up my hands and walk away like people bitching about other people doing good things.

You guys want those others to get Hawthornes so bad, throw 'em some money. Buy one on eBay and send it to them. Or start a campaign to get those people back on the list. Write letters to Grungebob and Truth about why Dude X deserves a Hawthorne, and tell them you would be pleased to pay the postage to mail it.

Because when you're doing nothing, nothing at all, with absolutely nothing to contribute, complaining about how other people are actually doing things is a load of crap. When you contribute, you earn the right to *****. Ironically, when you contribute, you get a sense of how much work it is to do something useful, and you end up bitching less.

[noodles]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

I don't really care who you give them to. I am just saying that I think your reasoning is flawed. I don't believe that those that hate exclusives hate the figs and cards. They hate the fact that they are not widely available.

Btw, I don't mind the complaining about exclusives. I personally don't really care that much, but it other want to complain then have at it.

I don't think the community is in danger. Let's try and keep things in perspective.

[Kepler]

Man, that's rich. It reminds me of how, every time we release a Codex, about a quarter of our feedback is complaining - from people who did precisely jack squat. Nothing makes me want to throw up my hands and walk away like people bitching about other people doing good things.

You guys want those others to get Hawthornes so bad, throw 'em some money. Buy one on eBay and send it to them. Or start a campaign to get those people back on the list. Write letters to Grungebob and Truth about why Dude X deserves a Hawthorne, and tell them you would be pleased to pay the postage to mail it.

Because when you're doing nothing, nothing at all, with absolutely nothing to contribute, complaining about how other people are actually doing things is a load of crap. When you contribute, you earn the right to *****. Ironically, when you contribute, you get a sense of how much work it is to do something useful, and you end up bitching less.

Let's just calm down everyone.

Once again, I think it was very nice of BG and Truth do give a SH to people they thought have contributed to the community.

I just wish that they had stopped at that and not took an unnecessary shot at the exclusives complainers. It tainted their good deed IMO.

I agree that critizing good deeds is uncalled for, however in this case the good deed is not being criticized. The criticism is about the public shot they took at exclusives complainers.

[Kepler]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

I don't really care who you give them to. I am just saying that I think your reasoning is flawed. I don't believe that those that hate exclusives hate the figs and cards. They hate the fact that they are not widely available.

Btw, I don't mind the complaining about exclusives. I personally don't really care that much, but it other want to complain then have at it.

I don't think the community is in danger. Let's try and keep things in perspective.

I never said the community was in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

[happyjosiah]

I always say the community is in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

I really don't think you are right about this one, Kepler.

[hex706f726368]

I always say the community is in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

I really think you are right about this one, Kepler.

:shock:

[happyjosiah]

I always fight crime. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

I really enjoy chocolate, Kepler.

I'm stupid.

Hmmm... is something wrong with the quote button? :shock:

[Karkadinn]

Uh, Imax, did it ever occur to you that some of us are perhaps too dirt ****ing poor to be able to afford to buy Hawthornes off of Ebay? For the past few weeks the ol' bank account has had exactly ninety-seven cents in it. Don't tell me to spend money I don't have. (The internet connection is free for me, in case you're wondering.)
Secondly, I like to think I've contributed enough to the community overall to be able to complain every once in a long while. It's not like I make a semi-regular event of complaining about decisions from the higher ups. (I'm surprised that this was actually Truth's decision too, but whatever. No one ever said I'd always agree with him... apparently just 99.99% of the time.) If you don't think I've earned that right yet, then I can only ask what else is it that I need to do. I like being useful, so if anyone really thinks I could or should be doing more, go ahead and tell me. I live to serve. :P

[hex706f726368]

:lol:

[truth]

Okay so the shot at complainers may have been unnecessary. Just so you know where to direct your animosity. It was my call. I was being tongue in cheek about them not wanting one, but in all reality there a few peeps over at Hasbro who bust tail to give the extra effort to make a great game AND to appeal to the gamer fans that you guys claim are overlooked at every turn. FACT is that a Con exclusive draws more GAMERS into the game. Whether you like the fact that its available to you or not, its helping push our part of the game's market. So yeah I get a little peeved that there seems to be complaining about every possible thing at every possible corner.

[markwars]

So yeah I get a little peeved that there seems to be complaining about every possible thing at every possible corner.

Is that a complaint?

:joke:

[happyjosiah]

C'mon, markwars, we are all getting sick of you complaining about Truth's complaining about complainers..... oops I just did it too...
:ban:

[InfinityMax]

Kark, you're right. You've had contributions in every Codex, long stories and short that have made it a better magazine. Plus you've done other stuff, too, like the Halls and stuff. Plus you're a sport, and a decent guy.

So I bundled frustrations and missed the mark on my critique. I certainly don't expect you to pay money you don't have. Broke is a pain in the ass. Sorry to offend, Kark.

It just bothers me to see guys like Truth and GB really making an effort, putting out their own cash to mail stuff, schmoozing for freebies from Hasbro that they won't even keep, and have to take crap. It's bull, is what it is - these two guys bust more ass for the fans of this game than nearly anyone outside the guys at Hasbro. When a dude busts his own nuts as much as these guys do, he ought to be entitled to a whole damned lot of leeway. Truth and GB deserve more credit than anyone I can think of. We let Hero cuss, insult and otherwise break all the rules, but at this point, GB and Truth deserve more carte blanche than even the godfather.

So cool it with the complaints, whether you've earned the right to whine or not (and that's not directed at Kark, that's a global 'shut up'). These cats have earned the right to not have to take your crap.

[happyjosiah]

Hear, hear.

[netherspirit]

Amen to that IMax.

[Hahnarama]

I just knew that this back stabbing son of a ***** Hawtohore would be the death of this community! :P

[geddy lifeson]

I just knew that this back stabbing son of a ***** Hawtohore would be the death of this community! :P

:rofl:

[Kepler]

Kark, you're right. You've had contributions in every Codex, long stories and short that have made it a better magazine. Plus you've done other stuff, too, like the Halls and stuff. Plus you're a sport, and a decent guy.

So I bundled frustrations and missed the mark on my critique. I certainly don't expect you to pay money you don't have. Broke is a pain in the ass. Sorry to offend, Kark.

It just bothers me to see guys like Truth and GB really making an effort, putting out their own cash to mail stuff, schmoozing for freebies from Hasbro that they won't even keep, and have to take crap. It's bull, is what it is - these two guys bust more ass for the fans of this game than nearly anyone outside the guys at Hasbro. When a dude busts his own nuts as much as these guys do, he ought to be entitled to a whole damned lot of leeway. Truth and GB deserve more credit than anyone I can think of. We let Hero cuss, insult and otherwise break all the rules, but at this point, GB and Truth deserve more carte blanche than even the godfather.

So cool it with the complaints, whether you've earned the right to whine or not (and that's not directed at Kark, that's a global 'shut up'). These cats have earned the right to not have to take your crap.

You do have your panties in a bunch today. I suggest decaff man. You are too uptight.

I don't believe in "free passes" because of former good (and anticipated future) good deeds. However, I am not trying to crucify them either.

Truth is a stand-up guy and admitted his mistake. That's cool and no grudges will be held. My complaint of his action is over.

Now on to Imax, the last thing this community needs are people that jump in and defend their friends out of pure emotion. Truth can defend and speak for himself. Your posts are not helping to resolve the matter.

[Kepler]

I always say the community is in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

I really don't think you are right about this one, Kepler.

Do you care to back that statement up? :johnwoo:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

It just bothers me to see guys like Truth and GB really making an effort, putting out their own cash to mail stuff, schmoozing for freebies from Hasbro that they won't even keep, and have to take crap. It's bull, is what it is - these two guys bust more ass for the fans of this game than nearly anyone outside the guys at Hasbro. When a dude busts his own nuts as much as these guys do, he ought to be entitled to a whole damned lot of leeway. Truth and GB deserve more credit than anyone I can think of. We let Hero cuss, insult and otherwise break all the rules, but at this point, GB and Truth deserve more carte blanche than even the godfather.

So cool it with the complaints, whether you've earned the right to whine or not (and that's not directed at Kark, that's a global 'shut up'). These cats have earned the right to not have to take your crap.

F**king A, IMax.

[Karkadinn]

And at this point I'd just like to re-state and re-emphasize that I do appreciate, very much, the generosity of the giveaway itself, even if that appreciation kinda got lost in the nitpickery. Sorry about that.

[happyjosiah]

I always say the community is in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

I really don't think you are right about this one, Kepler.

Do you care to back that thing up?

No. My doors don't swing that way. :wink:

[CupidsArt]

Hey if it helps I can revoke my rights to a Hawthorn. If something like this is going to cause an argument over who, why, when, ect. I have the $$ I can just buy one or make a couple of customs, :confused:

[InfinityMax]

Nothing to read here. Move along.

[InfinityMax]

Bullcrap, CA. You've helped out the site more than most. You deserve the recognition.

[LilNewbie]

Hey if it helps I can revoke my rights to a Hawthorn. If something like this is going to cause an argument over who, why, when, ect. I have the $$ I can just buy one or make a couple of customs, :confused:

Not gonna happen, CA. Everyone on the list deserves one. :D

Newb.

[CupidsArt]

Thanks guys. I just don't want anyone to feel that they are neglected or seperate from the community over a statement.

Everyone here has there place (purpose, use, ect) that'e why we call this a community. From the quarky antics of our goofy lovable members that make us laugh and bring smiles to us everyday. To the members that bring us resources that Hasbro hasn't provided us with, that help us show other members all of the ideas and inventive thoughts that we have.

This site is intended for the shared Knowledge, Experience, Creativity and Information that IS Heroscape. I'm not saying that HS is "My Life" nor am I saying that I don't care about it. The anger/saddness of one member spreads throughotu the site like wildfire.

If one person holds anger, and it shows in their posts, those reading could become enflamed. This site unlike HQ set down rules QUICK! Trying to avoid those spiffs and spatts that caused some members to leave.

When a member packs their bags over something like that it makes me sad. We've lost their thoughts, their ideas, GONE, No More! If someone decides to leave over a loss of love for the game, then it was good having them and it's still sad to say goodbye but it was a good...Goodbye.

Let's keep things inside the Hex's people, you leave the map, your outa' the game!


Jason

[noodles]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

I don't really care who you give them to. I am just saying that I think your reasoning is flawed. I don't believe that those that hate exclusives hate the figs and cards. They hate the fact that they are not widely available.

Btw, I don't mind the complaining about exclusives. I personally don't really care that much, but it other want to complain then have at it.

I don't think the community is in danger. Let's try and keep things in perspective.

I never said the community was in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

My bad. I quoted the wrong thing. It was Kark's comment that I was referring to. Sorry kepler but you didn't need to complain about it!

[Kepler]

This below sums it up. We assumed these people who were so vocal about how much they hate exclusives would not appreciate them as much as some others. It is a simple fact, and not a punishment at all. Air your thoughts freely. Be as negative as you want.

And yes we decided to take a couple names off the list. We thought: Dang if they hate exclusives so much then these might as well go to someone who dosn't despise them. Little Hawthorne needs a good home.

You are not being very honest I think. Do you really think that the people that don't like exclusives don't like the figs? They love the figs, they just hate the fact that they are not widely available, IMO.So you think that with our limited supply we should have given these folks an exclusive? Even after we read their complaints? It is funny that you support complaining and yet do not support reasoning.

I don't really care who you give them to. I am just saying that I think your reasoning is flawed. I don't believe that those that hate exclusives hate the figs and cards. They hate the fact that they are not widely available.

Btw, I don't mind the complaining about exclusives. I personally don't really care that much, but it other want to complain then have at it.

I don't think the community is in danger. Let's try and keep things in perspective.

I never said the community was in danger. Let's try to quote accurately. :D

My bad. I quoted the wrong thing. It was Kark's comment that I was referring to. Sorry kepler but you didn't need to complain about it!

No problem.

I can complain all I want, I have a Sir Hawthorne on the way. :mrgreen:

[Kepler]

Hey if it helps I can revoke my rights to a Hawthorn. If something like this is going to cause an argument over who, why, when, ect. I have the $$ I can just buy one or make a couple of customs, :confused:

That would not help anything. I think everyone agrees that the people on the list deserved to be there. The disagreement really has nothing to do with the list.

But that was very sweet of you. :thumbsup:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Hey if it helps I can revoke my rights to a Hawthorn. If something like this is going to cause an argument over who, why, when, ect. I have the $$ I can just buy one or make a couple of customs, :confused:

That would not help anything. I think everyone agrees that the people on the list deserved to be there. The disagreement really has nothing to do with the list.

But that was very sweet of you. :thumbsup:

It is generous, but I don't think it would help either, CA. You'd have more the same issues if you gave your figure away publicly.

I'm honored to get my Hawthorne from the big guys here. Last year I never begged for a Nerak online and figured I'd have to buy mine on eBay or get it at the TRU event. It was at my local TRU that I secured my one figure (arrgh! I tried to get multiples for other folks, but the lady would have none of that. I suppose that is the 'right' way of distributing them).
This year I didn't beg for a Hawthorne and just assumed I'd have to go the way of eBay or another hopeful TRU event.

I'm honored to get this Hawthorne from the big guys. I knew I'd get my Hawthorne one way or another ($$$), but I'm keeping this one because it came straight from GB directly to me. That's an honor I'm not going to give up.

I'll be happy to sniff around my local TRU if the event arises this year and snag some for 'Scapers who have yet to secure a Hawthorne, but uh-uh, no one's touching the exclusive I got from this thread.

I'm proud to receive it from the big wigs!!!!

again,
:passout:

[CupidsArt]

I'm proud to receive it from the big wigs!!!!

again,
:passout:

:D

[Jim]

And to think I almost didn't read this thread.

Thanks GB and Truth. From the heart of my bottom. :)

Jim

[noodles]

Last year I got hookeup up with Neraks so I can't complain.

[markwars]

If I may be blunt...there seems to be a lot of mental masturbation going on in this thread. Let's all take a cold shower and come back in thirty minutes.

[Dragonslayer]

If I may be blunt...there seems to be a lot of mental masturbation going on in this thread.

Do kittens die from this also? :ponder:

[noodles]

If I may be blunt...there seems to be a lot of mental masturbation going on in this thread.

Do kittens die from this also? :ponder:

Only if you don't use duct tape.

[Teamski]

Hey if it helps I can revoke my rights to a Hawthorn. If something like this is going to cause an argument over who, why, when, ect. I have the $$ I can just buy one or make a couple of customs, :confused:

Cupid,

The argument was NEVER about those who got rewarded for their participation on this board. Each and every name on that list were richly deserving of the recognition.

The bad vibes came from that single comment that affected those of us who very repectively complained about about exclusives in previous threads. It gave out the "we're ok, you are not ok" statement that creates a bit of a rift. It's all about non-attribution towards people who might not agree with the establishment. If that exclusion statement wasn't included, there would of been 10 less pages to this thread. That's as best as I can describe it.

This whole issue is nothing new. Nerak brought up the same sort of frustration last year as SH did this year. We just have to agree that there will never be a consensus on this subject and be happy with that.

I think most of you know me by now. I don't usually get that worked up about things, except that of exclusives. We all have sticking points.

-Ski

[ferzle]

Maybe you can trade a Nerak for it.. heh

I should get one for not causing any trouble in a while.

I wish. I just gave my last Nerak away in a contest.
Well, except for the one I kept.

[Rhydderch]

Okay so the shot at complainers may have been unnecessary. Just so you know where to direct your animosity. It was my call.

Thanks for being mature about the shot at the complainers, Truth. I personally agreed with Kark and failed to see the rationale behind the removal of complainers from the list. If anything many of the complainers are probably the ones who want Sir Hawthorne the most and just cannot afford him on Ebay. I think I would fall into that group of complaining have-nots! =P

Also I complain because as a have-not I feel bad for all the other people who cannot get their hands on an exclusive.

Anyway thanks again for your mature response to our comments. Also props to whomever came up with the giveaway itself. Giving something back to members who have contributed to the HS community over the year is great :P

[gibberish_47]

Wow... I've been gone a while... :shock:

[Oprime]

OMG, so much negativity ...jeeze.

A couple of stand up guys are doin' something nice, just because.

Be happy for the ones who got one.

Congrats to the recipients...and Jim, I wanna hold it in Sept :wink:

[Karkadinn]

See the things you miss when you try to have a life off the interweb, Gibberish? :D

[Jim]

...and Jim, I wanna hold it in Sept :wink:

Ummm... errr... :shock:

Jim

[Oprime]

...and Jim, I wanna hold it in Sept :wink:

Ummm... errr... :shock:

Jim

:rofl: um yeah, Him I meant him, you know Sir Hawthorne.......

[ninthdoc]

...and Jim, I wanna hold it in Sept :wink:

Ummm... errr... :shock:

Jim

:rofl: um yeah, Him I meant him, you know Sir Hawthorne.......

Is that what you guys call that up there. I'm not going anywhere near MA! :lol:

[Pilgrim]

...and Jim, I wanna hold it in Sept :wink:

Ummm... errr... :shock:

Jim

:rofl: um yeah, Him I meant him, you know Sir Hawthorne.......

Is that what you guys call that up there. I'm not going anywhere near MA! :lol:

Here we go . . . . .

[Logrey]

Can't believe I missed this thread...
A PM from GB informed me of its presence. That's an excellent list of people to give one too (especially me... :) But seriously, good choices.

It's a good feeling to be a valued member of the community. I'll try to keep it up. If a spare ever comes my way, I'll make sure and "pay it forward" to someone on this site.

[CupidsArt]

Can't believe I missed this thread...
A PM from GB informed me of its presence. That's an excellent list of people to give one too (especially me... :) But seriously, good choices.

It's a good feeling to be a valued member of the community. I'll try to keep it up. If a spare ever comes my way, I'll make sure and "pay it forward" to someone on this site.


YOU ARE MY NEW HERO!

[Logrey]

Can't believe I missed this thread...
A PM from GB informed me of its presence. That's an excellent list of people to give one too (especially me... :) But seriously, good choices.

It's a good feeling to be a valued member of the community. I'll try to keep it up. If a spare ever comes my way, I'll make sure and "pay it forward" to someone on this site.


YOU ARE MY NEW HERO!

Don't make me out to be a saint just yet. I'm definitely keeping at least one for myself. :) I'm a sucker for any medieval/fantasy-based units like Hawthorne. But *if* I do get my hands on another, it'll come back here somehow.

[Revdyer]

Quite frankly, I'm am surprised and very pleased just to be included on the list. In fact, I'm literally blushing.
I suspect just about everyone on the list would be willing to forego the honor, though, for the sake of the community.
My one desire was to see that Jim got one, and there he is on the list...that's great!

[ferzle]

Nevermind adding my name to the list (as if it was going to happen). I decided to get one on eBay, even though I haven't played in a while and am pretty sure I won't play much for the next few months. But, I had to get one so I could be the first in the family to get one.

See, and I am still behaving myself. I wanted to include a comment about how I wasn't sure that Sir Hawthorne was that good of a figure anyway to see if it would spark debate, but I didn't. 'Cause I'm a good boy.

[Aranas]

Can't believe I missed this thread...
A PM from GB informed me of its presence. That's an excellent list of people to give one too (especially me... :) But seriously, good choices.

It's a good feeling to be a valued member of the community. I'll try to keep it up. If a spare ever comes my way, I'll make sure and "pay it forward" to someone on this site.
This is a very positive attitude Logrey.

Congrats to the people on the list. :up:

Aranas

[wisinger]

I know what you mean, but let's face it: they aren't elminating those people from the list because they seriously think they don't want one. They are eliminating them because they don't like their attitudes. You can agree or disagree with that reasoning, but it's still their perrogative. I can give a sir hawthorne to someone just because I like their avatar or because of the color of their socks. This is simply a way they have selected to choose which lucky people shall recieve said prizes.

Well, yes, it's their prerogative, but it's not very conducive to a healthy community to be airing the division so blatantly in public. And it's most certainly very different from something random like sock color. It's over a relevant issue with actual emotions and intelligent thoughts tied up into it. Is this really what we want to do? Make it publicly known that we're punishing people for disagreeing with our school of thought?
I disagree with the basic principle of it entirely and wholeheartedly. I refuse to support anything that would make people hesitant to freely air their opinions on a hotly-debated subject.

what i hear is a double standard. you say that people are getting "punished" for expressing their opinion, and not being on the "list". yet isn't the list a way of expressing an opinion? you state that it isn't conductive to a healthy community? how can that possiblly be? you have multiple sides to a "healthy" community. you have one part that expresses like / dislike for some concept (exclusive figures), you have one part, or participant (in any capacity) saying that they are giving "freebies" to select people (as they see fit), which is a form of self expression. just like people can debate some topics, and others can be an example (to get credit for an act, to shower praise on others, to discount others, the list goes on and on), but the bottom line is, that this thread is simply self expression, just as the debate of exclusives is self expression as well.

i know this post is problably irrevent at this point, just started reading this thread this morning, so sorry if i am spouting off.

[markwars]

what i hear is a double standard. you say that people are getting "punished" for expressing their opinion, and not being on the "list". yet isn't the list a way of expressing an opinion? you state that it isn't conductive to a healthy community? how can that possiblly be? you have multiple sides to a "healthy" community. you have one part that expresses like / dislike for some concept (exclusive figures), you have one part, or participant (in any capacity) saying that they are giving "freebies" to select people (as they see fit), which is a form of self expression. just like people can debate some topics, and others can be an example (to get credit for an act, to shower praise on others, to discount others, the list goes on and on), but the bottom line is, that this thread is simply self expression, just as the debate of exclusives is self expression as well.

i know this post is problably irrevent at this point, just started reading this thread this morning, so sorry if i am spouting off.

Every healthy body has a colon right?

[ultradoug]

so , what your saying markwars... is this topic blows?

[reapersaurus]

http://s133702574.onlinehome.us/pictures/blog/colonblow.jpg

Guess Again. :D

[Revdyer]

Abolutely perfect, reaper.

[ultradoug]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/coolmondoug/colonblow.jpg
Guess Again. :D

I recomend Colon Blow.
So you can poop that much.

[Avenger]

congrats!!!..... if only i could one day be as awesome as you guys. Oh well, maybe I'll find a Sir Hawthorne in a dumspter on Thursday

[Frotworth]

Hail. I'm a completely new member. Though, I have browsed the forums now and then the last few weeks. Anyway, I just had to comment on all of this.

One object can be many different things. Hawthorne's exclusivity is hardly his only quality and not nearly his most important. Hawthorne as an exclusive is not the same thing as Hawthorne as a playable figure in all aspects of the game as a game. There is a difference between criticizing exclusives (simply the status of "being an exclusive") and criticizing a playable figure.

It seems analogous to being unwilling to befriend someone of a different religion you don't believe in. I have plenty of friends of so many faiths (or lack of for so many reasons) because of college and the inner-city. Those people are not their religions just as Hawthorne isn't his exclusivity.

And anyway, it's just common sense that stating this publicly is totally unnecessary. It is obviously only going to cause harm or resentment. Unless you really thought everyone was going to be that damn curious.

Please, don't take offense. I just feel very strongly about these concerns, the people concerned, and everyone being worried about arguing over this.

Here's a little advice: get Bawls. You'll learn a lot more if you suck it up and discuss things even when it makes you uncomfortable. Even the people you believe to be the least intelligent have something worth hearing now and then. Don't miss out just because it's easier to not listen.

[ninthdoc]

Hail. I'm a completely new member. Though, I have browsed the forums now and then the last few weeks. Anyway, I just had to comment on all of this.

One object can be many different things. Hawthorne's exclusivity is hardly his only quality and not nearly his most important. Hawthorne as an exclusive is not the same thing as Hawthorne as a playable figure in all aspects of the game as a game. There is a difference between criticizing exclusives (simply the status of "being an exclusive") and criticizing a playable figure.

It seems analogous to being unwilling to befriend someone of a different religion you don't believe in. I have plenty of friends of so many faiths (or lack of for so many reasons) because of college and the inner-city. Those people are not their religions just as Hawthorne isn't his exclusivity.

And anyway, it's just common sense that stating this publicly is totally unnecessary. It is obviously only going to cause harm or resentment. Unless you really thought everyone was going to be that **** curious.

Please, don't take offense. I just feel very strongly about these concerns, the people concerned, and everyone being worried about arguing over this.

Here's a little advice: get Bawls. You'll learn a lot more if you suck it up and discuss things even when it makes you uncomfortable. Even the people you believe to be the least intelligent have something worth hearing now and then. Don't miss out just because it's easier to not listen. :wtf: :screwy: :tumble:

[DoesntCompute]

Dang! I wish I was one of the cool kids.

[Grungebob]

OK the first 11 people on this list who sent me their addresses will be getting their Hawthornes in a couple of days. I am sending them out in the morning. The rest of you will get yours from Truth when he sends them out.

[Annerios]

OK the first 11 people on this list who sent me their addresses will be getting their Hawthornes in a couple of days. I am sending them out in the morning. The rest of you will get yours from Truth when he sends them out.

Sir Grungebob :gb: arrived this morning safe and sound!

He'll be back-stabbing his way across the battlefield soon.

Thanks again. :bowdown:

[LordRaidor]

...Got a package in the mail today...

...The return address says "The Hawthornes"...

...I shall cherish it forever. ^_^

Thanx again GB and Truth!!!

^_^
-LordRaidor-

[Oogie_Da_Bruce]

...Got a package in the mail today...

As did I!!!

Lil' Hawthorn, in nestled saftly away... napping... with his sword in Tae's back...

Sleep well Lil' H. Sleep well.
(and a heartfelt thanks to :gb: & :truth: I appreciate this.)

With overwelming gratitude,

:odb:

[allskulls]

Oog- Will Lil H attempt to tame a dragon today? :D

[markwars]

:rofl:

[Jim]

...Got a package in the mail today...

As did I!!!

Me three!

Once again, many thanks to GB & Truth.

Jim

[aielman]

dang it I knew I should have been reading this forum more :-P



Congrats to those luckily enough to get a hawthorne!

[kookalives]

Congrats to those lucky Bums.

Hopefully there will be some way here soon for the rest of us unlucky bums to get one.

[Venom]

:pray: wishing upon a star

[noodles]

Hail. I'm a completely new member. Though, I have browsed the forums now and then the last few weeks. Anyway, I just had to comment on all of this.

One object can be many different things. Hawthorne's exclusivity is hardly his only quality and not nearly his most important. Hawthorne as an exclusive is not the same thing as Hawthorne as a playable figure in all aspects of the game as a game. There is a difference between criticizing exclusives (simply the status of "being an exclusive") and criticizing a playable figure.

It seems analogous to being unwilling to befriend someone of a different religion you don't believe in. I have plenty of friends of so many faiths (or lack of for so many reasons) because of college and the inner-city. Those people are not their religions just as Hawthorne isn't his exclusivity.

And anyway, it's just common sense that stating this publicly is totally unnecessary. It is obviously only going to cause harm or resentment. Unless you really thought everyone was going to be that darn curious.

Please, don't take offense. I just feel very strongly about these concerns, the people concerned, and everyone being worried about arguing over this.

Here's a little advice: get Bawls. You'll learn a lot more if you suck it up and discuss things even when it makes you uncomfortable. Even the people you believe to be the least intelligent have something worth hearing now and then. Don't miss out just because it's easier to not listen.

Welcome to the site. This is a very meaty first post.

[Venom]

something tells me he's a counselor

[mrbistro]

Opening up my package today was a great way to end the week! I just can't say thank you enough times to the folks responsible for this! But I'll try anyway.

Thanks guys! I'll use him in my game on Sunday, and hopefully he won't betray me too badly. Thanks for helping others get their hands on the good stuff. It's worth pointing out that these guys (GBob, Truth, etc.) could have sold off these Sir Hawthornes to help fund their GenCon trip. But they're giving lads (and lasses too?) and I feel lucky and honored to be on the recieving end of their generosity. Thanks folks.

[Revdyer]

Our Saturday evening casual worship is beginning in about 18 minutes. I checked the mail box before that and what do you know! Sir Hawthrone was there. Thanks, Grungebob. Thanks, truth. I promise I won't try to convert the little black knight <grin>.
edit: So, rushed home with Sir H. The first game, my opponent chose him and on the second turn with him BACKSTAB! This is rich, even if it never happens again. :lol:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

OK the first 11 people on this list who sent me their addresses will be getting their Hawthornes in a couple of days. I am sending them out in the morning. The rest of you will get yours from Truth when he sends them out.

Sir Grungebob :gb: arrived this morning safe and sound!

He'll be back-stabbing his way across the battlefield soon.

Thanks again. :bowdown:

Ha! Back-stabbing his way across the battlefield? I went into my garage and there he was! He'd already crossed the field, climbed the ladders, taken the castle flag down and stomped it in a blind rage!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h249/jonan_jello/Hawthorne.jpg

Silverstoner brought over my Wave 5 and now I'm complete for gaming tonight: Castles, Wave 5, and Hawthorne!!!
Thanks so much GB! I have your address so expect something from me in the future...

Like Rob Liefeld comics? :joke:

[Malechi]

Sir Grungebob :gb: arrived this morning safe and sound!

He'll be back-stabbing his way across the battlefield soon.
Ha! Back-stabbing his way across the battlefield? I went into my garage and there he was! He'd already crossed the field, climbed the ladders, taken the castle flag down and stomped it in a blind rage!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h249/jonan_jello/Hawthorne.jpg



Nice! My Lil' Hawthorne hasn't arrived yet. :cry: I think while still in post he heard a postal employee going "Postal" and Hawthorne taught him a thing or two about Blind Rage!

:jotun:

[josh-n-papa]

YIPPEEE! got mine today!

Thanks G-Bob and Truth

[Venom]

i haven't received mine yet :unsure:

[django]

me too :(

[Logrey]

A heartfelt thanks to GBob, Truth, and all the other staffers of this site - mine arrived today. Along with the Wave 5 and castles I picked up at WalMart, I can say my collection (up until now) is complete. Ahhh.... :) You guys (and girls) are amazing.

[atmospro]

Sir Hawthorne arrived north of the border today all safe and sound. He'll be hitting the board this weekend....arrg.... wha... th.. ugh... you ... dirty....little..... ugh.

Come.. back.. here.

Awwe mannn!



Thanx a million to GB and Tuth.
Atmospro

[caravaggio]

THANKS GRUNGEBOB. sir hawthorne arrived in a pretty bad mood but has "'chilled out" a bit since taking up residence in icy HAWTHORNE MANOR....

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/585/p1010102rf9.jpg

here's a link to my map thread with more pictures of the manor.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=116&start=160

thanks again to anyone who had a part in getting a sir hawthorne to me.

by the way, i really like him a lot. he is cheap and strong and can bond excellently with the macdirk warriors (with his life of 6!) and with the werewolf darklord (he makes a good protector for him). plus, just put an extra werewolf on the lucky 20 sider glyph and forget about a backstab.

[Revdyer]

and forget about a backstab.Ah, but do NOT forget about the backstab!

[Jandars_Hope]

That pic looks cool caravaggio!!!

[markwars]

carrvaggio, everytime you post I drop whatever I'm doing to check out your latest pics. They never disappoint. As always....

:bowdown:

[K/H_Addict]

i love the angles of your pics, caravaggio! they're so life like or something...

[Revdyer]

Agreed. Caravaggio, you are one of the best photographers around here!

[caravaggio]

Agreed. Caravaggio, you are one of the best photographers around here!

i love the angles of your pics, caravaggio! they're so life like or something...

thanks guys, good to know that i wasnt completely wasting my time in film school (except that i still need to get these last two shorts editted and in some festivals or something).

after i posted the original photograph a few hours ago i did a little self-indulgent experiment...

so here's what HEROSCAPE:the movie would look like if i were directing it...

"IN A WORLD..."


http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5574/thxuz7.jpg

if i were more motivated i'd bring my "green-screen" out of storage and put it in the background of the photos (not to mention using proper lighting) so i could add sky the right way... (not just cutting the background out in photoshop!)

anyway, thanks...

[markwars]

Don't tease us like that! :)