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damja
May 22nd, 2008, 03:04 PM
Thursday 8/14
Game ID:NMN00659
Cost: $10
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Dragon Wars
Event Description:Swiss style tournament lasting 4 rounds with no final. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army (that MUST include Dragon Unique Hero), Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players win by destroying or "gaining control of" their opponent's highest points valued Dragon. The top 4 players win prizes.
Registrations Available: 12

Game ID:NMN00662
Cost: $10
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - General Wars
Event Description:Swiss style tournament with 50 positions, lasting 5 rounds with no final. Players bring their own 450 point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. All Army Cards MUST be from the same Valkarie General. The tournament is played in one hour rounds using 3rd edition rules. The highest ranked player in each General class wins prizes.
Registrations Available: 22

Game ID:NMN00668
Cost $8
Starts at 11:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Damnation Alley Win-a-Waves
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 8 man heats. This is a single elimination event. Players bring their own 450-point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. No Marvel units allowed. New Alleys beginning approximately every 60 minutes during scheduled event time. Last heat starts at 5pm each day. Top player in each heat receives a prize.

:gb: explains in another thread:

You buy a ticket to Damnation alley. We will start a new 8 man mini tourney every hour that day starting with the 11 am one. Every hour after the first, we will gather eight more ticketed players and send them through the alley. The eight players will be seated at the first 4 maps and imediately start playing. The 4 winners from that round will move down to the next set of maps (there will be 7 total), while we seat an additional group of 8 players. The day will proceed like this with each group of winners advancing down the table to the next set of maps.... That is the Damnation Alley. So feel free to buy a ticket and show up whenever, but remember that it is first come first serve, and that we take named tickets in priority over generics. We will likely have a sign up sheet going each day so you can reserve a spot.

Game ID:NMN00681
Cost: $8
Starts at 5:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Jumpstart
Event Description:Single elimination tournament lasting 3 rounds split into 8 man heats. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army (Players may not include DW9000 in their army), Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players can activate the broken down DW9000 that has been placed in the middle of the map. Successfully activating DW9000 means you may add him to your army. Additional rule details given before the event.
Registrations Available: 0

Check at the beginning of your attack phase. If you have at least one small or medium figure that activated this turn, adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If at the beginning of your attack phase, you have two small or medium figures from the same squad that you activated this turn, adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then they may exchange both of their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If at the beginning of any of your turns, you have at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may immediately “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed. At no time during Jumpstart may DW9000 be affected by Mindshackle or any other ability similar in nature. DW9000 may not be moved or attacked until he is controlled by a player.

Friday 8/15
Game ID:NMN00660
Cost: $20
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Gen Con Indy Championship
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 80 positions. 5 round Swiss tournament with ranked players advancing to Day 2. The top 16 advance. Players bring their own 520-point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. Marvel units are not permitted.
Registrations Available: 1

Game ID:NMN00669
Cost: $8
Starts at 11:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Damnation Alley Win-a-Waves
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 8 man heats. This is a single elimination event. Players bring their own 450-point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. No Marvel units allowed. New Alleys beginning approximately every 60 minutes during scheduled event time. Last heat starts at 5pm each day. Top player in each heat receives a prize.


Game ID:NMN00677
Cost: $10
Starts at 3:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Capture Raelin
Event Description:Swiss style tournament lasting 4 rounds with no final. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army (Players may not include Raelin in their army), Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players win by capturing the unconscious Raelin that is in the center of the map, and bringing her back to their start zone. The top 4 players win prizes.
Registrations Available: 18

By Rychean:
Raelin starts in the middle of the battlefield and is never controlled by either player. Raelin never takes damage and cannot be destroyed. Raelin can not be the target of an attack and cannot be subjected to, nor affected by, any special ability. Figures may not pass through Raelin even if they have powers that allow them to move through figures. Raelin does not count to either player's point total. Her Defensive Aura is activated for the figures you control while you have at least one figure adjacent to her. If both players have a least one figure adjacent to her, then her Defensive Aura is not active. At the beginning of any of your turns, if a figure on the card that you are taking a turn with, is adjacent to Raelin and if your opponent doesn't have a figure adjacent to Raelin, then during your move phase, that figure may "drag" Raelin. If the chosen card has a special move ability such as flying, stealth flying, grapple, climb, leap, charge…etc that figure will be unable to use that special move ability during it's move phase. The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move. Raelin can only be moved once per order marker. At the end of your move, if Raelin has been "drug" onto any of your starting zone hexes and is not adjacent to any of your opponent's figures, you win the game. Players can also win the game be destroying all of the opponent's figures.

Game ID:NMN00680
Cost: $8
Starts at 5:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Battle Above Cursed Lands
Event Description:Single elimination tournament played in 8 man heats. Players bring their own 450 point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players are encouraged to bring an all flying army. At the end of each game round, a die is rolled for each non flying figure on the board. Any skull rolled, means that figure immediately receives one wound. Flying figures are not affected. The top 4 players win prizes.
Registrations Available: 28


Saturday 8/14
Game ID:NMN00661
Cost: $0
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Gen Con Indy Championship Top 16
Event Description:This event is restricted to the 16 top players from Day 1. Single Elimination event with a consolation match. 24 hex start zones. Players bring the same 520 point pre-made army they used the prior day plus all Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. Marvel units are not permitted. Participant prizes for all 16 qualifiers and additional prizes to the top 8 finishers.



Game ID:NMN00663
Cost: $16
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Marvel Power of One
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 50 positions. 5 round Swiss tournament. It's all out war as the Marvel Heroes team up with Valkerie forces. Players bring a 550-point pre-made army containing one Marvel Hero; all other army cards and figures will be Classic Heroscape units. Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. Prizes awarded to the top four finishers.
Registrations Available: 35

Game ID:NMN00670
Cost: $8
Starts at 11:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Damnation Alley Win-a-Waves
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 8 man heats. This is a single elimination event. Players bring their own 450-point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. No Marvel units allowed. New Alleys beginning approximately every 60 minutes during scheduled event time. Last heat starts at 5pm each day. Top player in each heat receives a prize.


Game ID:NMN00673
Cost: $10
Starts at 2:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Classic Draft
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 32 positions. This is a single elimination event. 24 hex start zones. 8 player heats. Players square off in draft game using the Rise of the Valkerie maser set units. * All necessary game components will be provided for this event. All items remain with the maps. Players draft their 450-point armies using standard drafting rules. Game begins is soon as drafting is complete. Advancing players re-draft with each new game. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. Top player in each heat receives a prize.
Registrations Available: 6

Game ID:NMN00678
Cost: $12
Starts at 3:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Heat of Battle
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 50 positions. This is a 5 round Swiss tournament with no final. There are no starting zones, as players will take turns placing units anywhere on the battlefield except glyph spaces. The Battle begins once all figures are placed. Players bring order markers, wound markers, dice, cards, and a pre-drafted 450-point Heroscape army that does not exceed 24 hexes. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. Marvel units are not permitted. Prizes awarded to the top four finishers.
Registrations Available: 2

Sunday 8/14
Game ID:NMN00664
Cost: $10
Starts at 10:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Unique Hero Tournament
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 50 positions. Swiss style tournament lasting 5 rounds. Players bring their own 500-point pre-made army that includes only Unique Heroes. Marvel units are not permitted. Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. The top 4 players win prizes.
Registrations Available: 0

Game ID:NMN00671
Cost: $8
Starts at 11:00 AM

Title:Heroscape - Damnation Alley Win-a-Waves
Event Description:This event is open to all players. 8 man heats. This is a single elimination event. Players bring their own 450-point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. 24 hex start zones. Glyphs will be announced prior to the event. No Marvel units allowed. New Alleys beginning approximately every 60 minutes during scheduled event time. Last heat starts at 5pm each day. Top player in each heat receives a prize.

Game ID:NMN00672
Cost: $8
Starts at 12:00 PM

Title:Heroscape - Mind Shackle
Event Description:Single elimination tournament lasting 4 rounds. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army (that MUST include either Ne-Gok-Sa or Ki-Mo-Shi), Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players win by destroying or "gaining control of" their opponent's Ne-Gok-Sa or Ki-Mo-Shi. The top 2 players win prizes.
Registrations Available: 23

paradox22
May 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM
Extremly helpful! Thanks! +rep for you sir!:D

Wind Lane
May 22nd, 2008, 04:04 PM
Any chance this could get stickied or linked into a GenCon info thread that gets stickied?

Grungebob
May 22nd, 2008, 04:19 PM
Stickied!

Yes those are our events. Of course they were posted on a day that I was at the school volunteering all day!. We will have more details and field any questions ongoing

Onacara
May 22nd, 2008, 04:48 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question...

Can you sign-up for 2 events at the same time? (i.e. I am going to sign up for Championship Top 16 in case I make the top 16 but if not I want to make sure I can get into one of the other Saturday morning events.)

lonewolf
May 22nd, 2008, 04:52 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question...

Can you sign-up for 2 events at the same time? (i.e. I am going to sign up for Championship Top 16 in case I make the top 16 but if not I want to make sure I can get into one of the other Saturday morning events.)
Last year, you did not sign up for the second day and there was NO cost associated with it.

Onacara
May 22nd, 2008, 04:53 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question...

Can you sign-up for 2 events at the same time? (i.e. I am going to sign up for Championship Top 16 in case I make the top 16 but if not I want to make sure I can get into one of the other Saturday morning events.)
Last year, you did not sign up for the second day and there was NO cost associated with it.

Ok so what happens if you make the championship and you already signed up for one of the other events?

Grungebob
May 22nd, 2008, 04:53 PM
If you want to sign up for two go right ahead. I believe that is one of the incentives.

BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!! :):):)

lonewolf
May 22nd, 2008, 04:57 PM
If you want to sign up for two go right ahead. I believe that is one of the incentives.

BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!! :):):)

The latest email that I got from Gencon stated that you could NOT sign up for multiple events at the same time....and included instructions for unregistering for events via-email.

R˙chean
May 22nd, 2008, 05:28 PM
You will not have to sign up for the second day. You have to qualify for that. If you signed up for another event but you rocked the house and made the second day, I am sure you will be able to sell your conflicting event ticket. (very easily)

Thanks for putting this together, damja!

Jexik
May 22nd, 2008, 05:30 PM
When will sign-up for events officially open, and how do we do it? I only went to the GenCon site the one time to get my badge, so I'm a complete newbie with all this.

lonewolf
May 22nd, 2008, 05:32 PM
When will sign-up for events officially open, and how do we do it? I only went to the GenCon site the one time to get my badge, so I'm a complete newbie with all this.

Registration opens at 12pm PST Sunday June 1st.

Grungebob
May 22nd, 2008, 05:33 PM
If you want to sign up for two go right ahead. I believe that is one of the incentives.

BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!! :):):)

The latest email that I got from Gencon stated that you could NOT sign up for multiple events at the same time....and included instructions for unregistering for events via-email.Yes, but you can purchase generic tickets, and if you are doing poorly in one event, you can drop out and hop in on another by using generics!

Grungebob
May 22nd, 2008, 05:35 PM
You will not have to sign up for the second day. You have to qualify for that. If you signed up for another event but you rocked the house and made the second day, I am sure you will be able to sell your conflicting event ticket. (very easily)

Thanks for putting this together, damja!Also, the second day is a 16 man final, which is double last year.

Jexik
May 22nd, 2008, 05:52 PM
You will not have to sign up for the second day. You have to qualify for that. If you signed up for another event but you rocked the house and made the second day, I am sure you will be able to sell your conflicting event ticket. (very easily)

Thanks for putting this together, damja!Also, the second day is a 16 man final, which is double last year.

But there are more than double the number of contestants. Seems like it'll still be hard to make the sweet sixteen.

R˙chean
May 22nd, 2008, 05:53 PM
Note: the bolded item for below...
Game ID:NMN00677
Title:Heroscape Capture Realm (I think this should be Capture Raelin)
Event Description:Swiss style tournament lasting 4 rounds with no final. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army (Players may not include Raelin in their army), Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players win by capturing the unconscious Raelin that is in the center of the map, and bringing her back to their start zone. The top 4 players win prizes.
Also holds true for DW9000 in this event: Game ID:NMN00681
Title:Heroscape Jumpstart
Event Description:Single elimination tournament lasting 3 rounds split into 8 man heats. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players can activate the broken down DW9000 that has been placed in the middle of the map. Successfully activating DW9000 means you may add him to your army. Additional rule details given before the event.This specification didn't make it into the description, but you can not include DW9000 in your army. The "additional rule details" will only involve game play, not army building.

gamjuven
May 22nd, 2008, 05:59 PM
Awesome news! I just hope I will be able to register on that day! Thanks for the info! :D

damja
May 22nd, 2008, 07:01 PM
You will not have to sign up for the second day. You have to qualify for that. If you signed up for another event but you rocked the house and made the second day, I am sure you will be able to sell your conflicting event ticket. (very easily)

Thanks for putting this together, damja!Also, the second day is a 16 man final, which is double last year.

But there are more than double the number of contestants. Seems like it'll still be hard to make the sweet sixteen.
There aren't quite double. Last year the Main Event had 40 available slots for pre-register and if I recall they added a few more maps to get a few more people into the event.

Of course that still wasn't enough seats for myself and the two guys I went with!

:gb: -- Lonewolf mentioned that some of the rounds etc. might not be accurate from the GenCon site. Is there anyway to get the correct info so I can update the list above with the correct information or will you admins take care of that?
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Grungebob
May 22nd, 2008, 07:05 PM
You will not have to sign up for the second day. You have to qualify for that. If you signed up for another event but you rocked the house and made the second day, I am sure you will be able to sell your conflicting event ticket. (very easily)

Thanks for putting this together, damja!Also, the second day is a 16 man final, which is double last year.

But there are more than double the number of contestants. Seems like it'll still be hard to make the sweet sixteen.
There aren't quite double. Last year the Main Event had 40 available slots for pre-register and if I recall they added a few more maps to get a few more people into the event.

Of course that still wasn't enough seats for myself and the two guys I went with!

:gb: -- Lonewolf mentioned that some of the rounds etc. might not be accurate from the GenCon site. Is there anyway to get the correct info so I can update the list above with the correct information or will you admins take care of that?
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No. What you must understand is that unlike in the past I did not submit these events. I have contacted the event manager with a list of errors and he is a good guy with a vested interest in making things right. The kinks will be worked out, but the info will likely be found on the event registry

Cleon
May 22nd, 2008, 07:17 PM
WOW, great events this year! Gotta get signed up.

Buddy Lee
May 22nd, 2008, 07:51 PM
Concerning:

Heroscape General Wars

I imagine all generals are expected to be represented. Including Aquilla?

I just thinkin' her units are going to be rather limited. Even with the unrevealed units in wave 8.

Buddy Lee

Cleon
May 22nd, 2008, 08:36 PM
Concerning:

Heroscape General Wars

I imagine all generals are expected to be represented. Including Aquilla?

I just thinkin' her units are going to be rather limited. Even with the unrevealed units in wave 8.

Buddy Lee

I agree with you on that one, but a may even try SuJoah and a million spiders :) . I'm thinking about an all Vydar army, or Jandar. I think this event will be a blast.

EDIT: Possitive rep going to you Damja!!!

playa1
May 22nd, 2008, 11:31 PM
The advertisement in the first post says the championship will have 80 slots, but the Gencon site says there are only 64 open. Not sure if this is a mistake or I'm just misunderstanding it. Perhaps they are combining the "slots" as entries + finalists :confused:

Onacara
May 22nd, 2008, 11:33 PM
64 and 16 equals 80


:thumbsup:

lonewolf
May 23rd, 2008, 01:04 AM
The advertisement in the first post says the championship will have 80 slots, but the Gencon site says there are only 64 open. Not sure if this is a mistake or I'm just misunderstanding it. Perhaps they are combining the "slots" as entries + finalists :confused:

Please read all of the posts in this thread, you might find the answer to your question.

playa1
May 23rd, 2008, 01:23 AM
[quote=Grungebob;563651]

BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!! :):):)

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I did read all of the posts on the site. I guess I'm just really stupid. Are you referring to GB's statement above? Because what I wanted to know was whether this might be an error or just a typical way of holding the tournament (as I am very new to the whole Gencon thing).

If my question was actually dealt with elsewhere clearly, I'm just working way too late at night and should shut up. Sorry :oops:.

TheMainMan
May 23rd, 2008, 01:28 AM
I can't seem to find the event to sign up for where Lonewolf from Arizona kicks my butt all day. Oh, wait, thats right, it's any event. No problem. Got it.


Nice job Damja. looking forward to it.

-TMM

lonewolf
May 23rd, 2008, 10:15 AM
BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!!



I did read all of the posts on the site. I guess I'm just really stupid. Are you referring to GB's statement above? Because what I wanted to know was whether this might be an error or just a typical way of holding the tournament (as I am very new to the whole Gencon thing).

If my question was actually dealt with elsewhere clearly, I'm just working way too late at night and should shut up. Sorry .

At this point, there were a bunch of errors found in the information posted on the Gencon site. GB has sent a list over to them for corrections. Here is a second quote from GB....

No. What you must understand is that unlike in the past I did not submit these events. I have contacted the event manager with a list of errors and he is a good guy with a vested interest in making things right. The kinks will be worked out, but the info will likely be found on the event registry

I am not sure if the main event is going to have 64 or 80 participants....it is either one or the other. The first day will be a swiss style tournament using PD. In either case, 64 or 80 participants,there will be 16 making it to the second day and it will be single elimination, with a consolation game for the 3-4 final standings.

Hope this helps!

Revdyer
May 23rd, 2008, 10:41 AM
I can't seem to find the event to sign up for where Lonewolf from Arizona kicks my butt all day. Oh, wait, thats right, it's any event. No problem. Got it.

-TMMOh! I've played that game! <grin>

Finrod
May 23rd, 2008, 10:54 AM
Game ID:NMN00681
Title:Heroscape Jumpstart
Event Description:Single elimination tournament lasting 3 rounds split into 8 man heats. Up to 32 players bring their own 450 point pre-made army, Army Cards, dice, Order Markers, Wound Markers, and any special tokens required. Players can activate the broken down DW9000 that has been placed in the middle of the map. Successfully activating DW9000 means you may add him to your army. Additional rule details given before the event.

Any chance we could get the rules for "activation"? I'm unable to go to GenCon, but this is a game idea I'd like to use myself for local games.

If not, I'll just make up my own rules. Sounds too fun not to use.

damja
May 23rd, 2008, 11:22 AM
I can't seem to find the event to sign up for where Lonewolf from Arizona kicks my butt all day. Oh, wait, thats right, it's any event. No problem. Got it.

-TMMOh! I've played that game! <grin>
Have you played the one where you his 14-year-old son wipes the butt of his Nerak with the face of your army?

I have.

lonewolf
May 23rd, 2008, 11:29 AM
I can't seem to find the event to sign up for where Lonewolf from Arizona kicks my butt all day. Oh, wait, thats right, it's any event. No problem. Got it.

-TMMOh! I've played that game! <grin>
Have you played the one where you his 14-year-old son wipes the butt of his Nerak with the face of your army?

I have.

:rofl:

If it makes you feel any better he went 13-7 at Gencon last year and his losses were mostly to top notch opponents..(Spiderpoisonx2, Rychean, Funrun, Skynight, Damja, & ????)

Revdyer
May 23rd, 2008, 11:54 AM
Have you played the one where you his 14-year-old son wipes the butt of his Nerak with the face of your army?

I have.No. But I did have the pleasure of meeting the young man and it renewed my hope for my retirement years and the country being in good hands.

R˙chean
May 23rd, 2008, 11:56 AM
Scaperdude is indeed an awesome young man. Lonewolf must be doing something right.
Oddly enough, though, I have only ever played the game with them where they fall before me and bestow my greatness.
;-)

lonewolf
May 23rd, 2008, 12:01 PM
Scaperdude is indeed an awesome young man. Lonewolf must be doing something right.
Oddly enough, though, I have only ever played the game with them where they fall before me and bestow my greatness.
;-)

Thank you for the kind words.

Hopefully we give you a better run for your money this year!

Revdyer
May 23rd, 2008, 12:04 PM
Hopefully we give you a better run for your money this year!
I don't know. He is, after all, Uber-Super-Ry, a force with which to be reckoned, an army all in himself (except he also brings an army with him)...uh, now I'm getting confused...oh, yeah...don't Mess with Texas. <grin>

R˙chean
May 23rd, 2008, 12:17 PM
All in jest, lonewolf...
;-)
It seemed like a good time to start talking smack!

ewabbie
May 23rd, 2008, 01:00 PM
Can Gencon attendees not registered for Heroscape events still enter the gaming area and watch?

lonewolf
May 23rd, 2008, 01:12 PM
Can Gencon attendees not registered for Heroscape events still enter the gaming area and watch?
Of course!

R˙chean
May 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM
Absolutely! Though with so many events going on at varying prices, I recommend you jump into one. You will be able to use generic tickets for events that aren't full so go in with the expectation of playing some scape.

damja
May 23rd, 2008, 01:16 PM
Can Gencon attendees not registered for Heroscape events still enter the gaming area and watch?
In the room we were in last year you could. I think part of the point of having a large event is to attract new people to your game of choice. Really that is what :gencon: is all about if you think about it.

By the way, if anyone KNOWS that there are mistakes in the descriptions either send me a PM or post the correct information in this thread so I can fix it in the first post .

whipmaster
May 23rd, 2008, 01:25 PM
man all the events sound so awesome I wish I could come to gencon

hex706f726368
May 23rd, 2008, 02:22 PM
I can't seem to find the event to sign up for where Lonewolf from Arizona kicks my butt all day. Oh, wait, thats right, it's any event. No problem. Got it.

-TMMOh! I've played that game! <grin>
Have you played the one where you his 14-year-old son wipes the butt of his Nerak with the face of your army?

I have.

I've got to play that game and I didn't even have to go to GenCon to do it!

robbdaman
May 23rd, 2008, 04:28 PM
Can Gencon attendees not registered for Heroscape events still enter the gaming area and watch?

No, and in fact we tar and feather those who try. :p

R~

playa1
May 23rd, 2008, 08:42 PM
No. What you must understand is that unlike in the past I did not submit these events. I have contacted the event manager with a list of errors and he is a good guy with a vested interest in making things right. The kinks will be worked out, but the info will likely be found on the event registry

Any speculation on what effect this will have on the boards used? I believe last year's all came from members of this community. Might the new management use more official scenario boards? (this, imo, would be a shame)

Grungebob
May 23rd, 2008, 09:15 PM
No. What you must understand is that unlike in the past I did not submit these events. I have contacted the event manager with a list of errors and he is a good guy with a vested interest in making things right. The kinks will be worked out, but the info will likely be found on the event registry

Any speculation on what effect this will have on the boards used? I believe last year's all came from members of this community. Might the new management use more official scenario boards? (this, imo, would be a shame)All maps used will be from this community and have already been picked, we will also be working with additional jungle maps that folks might not yet have played on. We will try and get a map preview up before Gencon.

skyknight
May 24th, 2008, 07:05 AM
Man oh man, here we go again....I am starting to get excited!!!!!!

Hahnarama
May 24th, 2008, 07:29 AM
I just looked at the schd and once again the timing is bad, for me personally that is. I would LOVE to play in the Generals event but that right @ 10 AM on opening day. That's PRIME TIME in the Dealer Hall.

Being the FOOL that I am I guess I am shelling out $16 for the Marvel event.

Looks like its going to be BIG each day.

Cleon
May 24th, 2008, 11:38 AM
I just looked at the schd and once again the timing is bad, for me personally that is. I would LOVE to play in the Generals event but that right @ 10 AM on opening day. That's PRIME TIME in the Dealer Hall.

Being the FOOL that I am I guess I am shelling out $16 for the Marvel event.

Looks like its going to be BIG each day.

One question, so for each day there's an opening time for the exibit hall. Now that's for each day, right? Like, last year you could only get SotM if you rushed in and got in the heroscape line fast enough, but if you missed it one day they'd do the same for the other days so you could catch/try for it the next day (until Sunday - last day). Are they going to do the same this year, like I'm guessing there'll be an exclusive that they only have so many for each day. So like if I did one event the first day and missed the special time for giving free exclusives, and had nothing to do at the time they open that hall the second day I could get it that day right?

But yeah, events are packed this year, many with intersecting times with other events or other things.

Hahnarama
May 24th, 2008, 12:54 PM
No idea what WotC has planned. Last year was really the first time that HAS brought enough stock to sell. In years past it was a mad house/not worth it to get ONE set of figures.

Last year the limited SotM, a new release, to 75 per day. You could buy all the RotV you wanted when ever you wanted since there was less demand.

Now FFG is a different beast. They stack stuff up 8 feet high and once they run out they run out. But they had LOTS of stuff in their walk through store. IF, a BIG IF, they have the BSG game out by then I am getting that first before any thing else.

Rifier_Ace
May 25th, 2008, 03:26 AM
Ah this sounds like a ton of fun. But unfortunately I live in AZ and with me being under 18 I don't think my parents would be that excited about me going to Gencon by myself. It also looks like a fairly expensive event. I could probably shell out enough but it would all add up pretty quickly. Hopefully sometime I can go to Comicon with my older brother. That seems to be in the realm of possibilities and they have Heroscape events there and last year they had the exclusive. Anyways I hope all attendees have a great fun filled time.

Cleon
May 25th, 2008, 10:50 AM
Ah this sounds like a ton of fun. But unfortunately I live in AZ and with me being under 18 I don't think my parents would be that excited about me going to Gencon by myself. It also looks like a fairly expensive event. I could probably shell out enough but it would all add up pretty quickly. Hopefully sometime I can go to Comicon with my older brother. That seems to be in the realm of possibilities and they have Heroscape events there and last year they had the exclusive. Anyways I hope all attendees have a great fun filled time.

With WotC in control of heroscape now, I'm not sure any heroscape displays or events will be at ComicCon anymore because WotC doesn't go there. Same with Toy Fair.

Onacara
May 25th, 2008, 12:24 PM
Ah this sounds like a ton of fun. But unfortunately I live in AZ and with me being under 18 I don't think my parents would be that excited about me going to Gencon by myself. It also looks like a fairly expensive event. I could probably shell out enough but it would all add up pretty quickly. Hopefully sometime I can go to Comicon with my older brother. That seems to be in the realm of possibilities and they have Heroscape events there and last year they had the exclusive. Anyways I hope all attendees have a great fun filled time.

With WotC in control of heroscape now, I'm not sure any heroscape displays or events will be at ComicCon anymore because WotC doesn't go there. Same with Toy Fair.

I don't go to them either so don't look for my display. :wink:

Hendal
May 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Well I am confused, not that is something new to me, I want to play Heroscape all day, but I also want to cruise the Vending hall, what to do, what to do????

I like the looks of the events, but I have to admint I am kinda bummed out. I really thought WOTC would have a 1000 pt event at GenCon, it just seems to make sense. Look at where the game is going. The hive, The Samari leader, etc. It would have been really cool to see giant themed armies going at it. I understand it is a lot more time, and i actually prefer a 400-500 pt game, but I thought how cool would it be to field a 100 pt army of all orcs or all Marro.

So I have no clue how to sign up, or what is going to go down.

As far as general game tickets, do I buy those ahead of time or can I get them at the door?

When I sign up for the HS stuff do I have to pay with a credit card at the time of sign up?

Sorry if these seem like obvious questions, just trying to figure it out?

Han - you got me thinking of the main vendors section, and running through getting as much new stuff as possible, darn you......

Grungebob
May 26th, 2008, 10:39 PM
If you sign up for an event you will need to pay with CC.

If you want to buy general tickets, you can buy those everywhere at Gencon.

Hendal
May 28th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Thanks GB,


I think this year will just be a giant learning session for me, s next year I have a clue what is going on.

paradox22
May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM
If you want to buy general tickets, you can buy those everywhere at Gencon.

Hendal,

You can also buy generic tickets on GenCons web site and they will be mailed to you with the other tickets for games you have signed up for... then you don't have to wait in line at the Con.;) You can also sell them back tot he Con if you don't use them.

-Generic Tickets
-Price: $2.00 each
-ID Number: GEN00001

R˙chean
May 28th, 2008, 04:42 PM
All maps used will be from this community and have already been picked, we will also be working with additional jungle maps that folks might not yet have played on. We will try and get a map preview up before Gencon.

To that end, we are targeting to have the map pool posted no later than July 1st. That is the target date.

stumpy_man
May 28th, 2008, 05:24 PM
If you buy a ticket for a win-a-wave event will that be for any time the tournaments are going during the day? Don't they start like every hour or something? And how many generic tickets do you need for events?

robbdaman
May 28th, 2008, 05:43 PM
If you buy a ticket for a win-a-wave event will that be for any time the tournaments are going during the day? Don't they start like every hour or something? And how many generic tickets do you need for events?

Depends on the event. ;)

R~

Draconious
May 28th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Are we still waiting for the scape events to open for registration? or has the excel file just not been updated... it still shows no-one has registered, and I still believe we are waiting... just making sure I did not miss a post.

Cleon
May 28th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Are we still waiting for the scape events to open for registration? or has the excel file just not been updated... it still shows no-one has registered, and I still believe we are waiting... just making sure I did not miss a post.

Lonewolf said the sign ups/registration will be on June 1st, as stated on page 1, last post.

Hendal
May 28th, 2008, 10:16 PM
For the Damnation Alley's - If I buy a ticket and it says 11 AM, but goes till 5 PM - can I use that ticket when ever I show up , or only at 11 AM?

If a general ticket costs $2, is that good to get into Damnation alley if it is not full or will I need 4 of those tickets to get in?

GenCon Championship - can I wait to buy the $4 ticket on Sat. if I am really really lucky and make it that far? Or is 1 general ticket ( or 2 ) good for that? Meaning I don't buy that in advance?

JumpStart - there are no prizes???????

Mindshackle - Can I have NGS and KMS in my army? Or only of of them?

That is it for now, thanks if anyone can answer these.

Hendal
May 28th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Any word on an exclusive figure this year? Not what it is, just if there is one?

lonewolf
May 28th, 2008, 11:14 PM
For the Damnation Alley's - If I buy a ticket and it says 11 AM, but goes till 5 PM - can I use that ticket when ever I show up , or only at 11 AM?

If a general ticket costs $2, is that good to get into Damnation alley if it is not full or will I need 4 of those tickets to get in?

GenCon Championship - can I wait to buy the $4 ticket on Sat. if I am really really lucky and make it that far? Or is 1 general ticket ( or 2 ) good for that? Meaning I don't buy that in advance?

JumpStart - there are no prizes???????

Mindshackle - Can I have NGS and KMS in my army? Or only of of them?

That is it for now, thanks if anyone can answer these.


Hendal - from this thread.....things haven't been worked out completely yet. The rules for some of the events aren't published yet either...in due time we will have all the informaiton.



BTW, FOLKS!! If you see any errors in the event list just hold tight while we work those out. I have not reviewed them yet but trust that any errors will be sorted out completely before this goes live!!



I did read all of the posts on the site. I guess I'm just really stupid. Are you referring to GB's statement above? Because what I wanted to know was whether this might be an error or just a typical way of holding the tournament (as I am very new to the whole Gencon thing).

If my question was actually dealt with elsewhere clearly, I'm just working way too late at night and should shut up. Sorry .

At this point, there were a bunch of errors found in the information posted on the Gencon site. GB has sent a list over to them for corrections. Here is a second quote from GB....

No. What you must understand is that unlike in the past I did not submit these events. I have contacted the event manager with a list of errors and he is a good guy with a vested interest in making things right. The kinks will be worked out, but the info will likely be found on the event registry

I am not sure if the main event is going to have 64 or 80 participants....it is either one or the other. The first day will be a swiss style tournament using PD. In either case, 64 or 80 participants,there will be 16 making it to the second day and it will be single elimination, with a consolation game for the 3-4 final standings.

Hope this helps!

Grungebob
May 28th, 2008, 11:22 PM
I still have no more info to give. When I do, I will post it here.

bunjee
May 30th, 2008, 06:25 PM
An email that came from GenCon today had some good information for those of you that may have already signed up for events that conflict with HS events: Wizards of the Coast Event Registration

In order to ensure WOTC event registration goes off without a hitch, on June 1st at 12pm PDT, Gen Con will allow for registrations of conflicting events. This means if you had a previously registered event occurring on the same day and time as a new WOTC event you wish to register for, you will now be able to register for the new event without having to drop the pre-registered event first.
On June 2nd at 7am PDT, we will reinstate our conflicting event check policy. Persons with conflicting events will be contacted and asked which conflicting event(s) they wish to drop.

All conflicting events that have not been resolved by 7am PDT, June 23rd will be dropped from attendee accounts and a refund will be issued to the purchasing credit card. If you have any questions or concerns regarding our conflicting event policy, please email CustomerService@gencon.com

chuynn
May 31st, 2008, 01:53 PM
Just found this list and would like to thank you for posting it. My wife and I were just starting to get a little cross with each other because the family is not very patient so I just print your list and peace is at hand. Until we all start to play test the army we will be bring to Gen.Con.
Thank's

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 10:40 AM
I want to reiterate to everyone that even though revisions have not been posted as of today, there are items that will be revised.

Such as Day 2 Championship; signing up for Day 2 of the Championship is not necessary and will most likely only result in a hassle for you. Regardless of who signs up for that event, the only players that will be in that event will be the top 16 players from the 1st day of the Championship on Friday.

I am sure there will be revisions and reimbursements etc..etc...

Just save yourself the headache, don't sign up for Championship top 16. You won't get in unless you place top 16 the prior day. Those 16 people will be the only ones given access to the event regardless of who signed up through the web sight.

Grungebob
June 1st, 2008, 11:05 AM
I want to reiterate to everyone that even though revisions have not been posted as of today, there are items that will be revised.

Such as Day 2 Championship; signing up for Day 2 of the Championship is not necessary and will most likely only result in a hassle for you. Regardless of who signs up for that event, the only players that will be in that event will be the top 16 players from the 1st day of the Championship on Friday.

I am sure there will be revisions and reimbursements etc..etc...

Just save yourself the headache, don't sign up for Championship top 16. You won't get in unless you place top 16 the prior day. Those 16 people will be a given access to the event regardless of who signed up through the websight.Very good point Rychean.

Hahnarama
June 1st, 2008, 11:18 AM
I want to reiterate to everyone that even though revisions have not been posted as of today, there are items that will be revised.

Such as Day 2 Championship; signing up for Day 2 of the Championship is not necessary and will most likely only result in a hassle for you. Regardless of who signs up for that event, the only players that will be in that event will be the top 16 players from the 1st day of the Championship on Friday.

I am sure there will be revisions and reimbursements etc..etc...

Just save yourself the headache, don't sign up for Championship top 16. You won't get in unless you place top 16 the prior day. Those 16 people will be the only ones given access to the event regardless of who signed up through the web sight.

Well I am still signing up for Day 2. I have conflicts on Friday, but all of you know that I would kick A** and be in the Championship GUARANTEED!

Muwhahahahahaha! :p

playa1
June 1st, 2008, 11:34 AM
Would it be wise to use generic tickets for the Win-a-Wave compeititons? It sounds like they are first-come first-serve events that rotate in 8 man heats.

I also don't know how to get generic tickets online -- or is it best to buy them on-site?

Hahnarama
June 1st, 2008, 11:37 AM
On Site

killercactus
June 1st, 2008, 12:07 PM
Anyone know why registration isnt open yet?

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 12:14 PM
1200 pacific

killercactus
June 1st, 2008, 12:21 PM
That explains that. Thanks!

Hahnarama
June 1st, 2008, 12:24 PM
1200 pacific

From the :gencon: email dated 5/21

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Wizards of the Coast’s Events

Wizards of the Coast has submitted over 400 events this year. To give everyone plenty of opportunity to plan your schedule, the full event listing will be online and available to review on Thursday, May 22nd. Registration for these events will open up at Sunday, June 1st at noon (PST). *
It’s a big year for Dungeons & Dragons with the launch of the new 4th edition. At Gen Con, the RPGA will be launching Living Forgotten Realms, a brand-new organized play program in conjunction with the new edition. You can get a taste of the new game by running through a quick Dungeon Delve or you can dive head-first into the new campaign, getting in on the ground floor!
With almost 200 different tournaments and events for Magic the Gathering, you can get your card game fix on as well. Wizards of the Coast is also offering a slew of events for the Star Wars Role Playing Game, D&D Minis, Star Wars Minis, Heroscape, Three Dragon Ante, Dreamblade, Axis & Allies, Inn Fighting and MapleStory.
* Dropping Events to Register for Something New

Remember, you cannot register for a new event if it conflicts with something you have already signed up for. You must drop existing events BEFORE you register for new ones.
To drop an event, send an email to customerservice@gencon.com. Please be very specific in your email request in order to ensure a timely refund. Here is what you need to include:
Your account ID (this appears at the top left of the screen next to your name after you sign into your account (Ex: John Doe (ID: 01234))
The Game ID of the event you want to drop (EX: SEM12345).
Whether you would want a refund (back to the original credit card you used to purchase the ticket) OR if you would prefer a system credit in which you can use to purchase other events.PS Don't worry about dropping events. See Bunjee's earlier post.

Grungebob
June 1st, 2008, 12:50 PM
Another thing to remember is if you plan on volunteering at all with the events, then you may keep that in the back of your mind while planning and registering for events.

skyknight
June 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM
Another thing to remember is if you plan on volunteering at all with the events, then you may keep that in the back of your mind while planning and registering for events.I imagine after we register we would want to get a thread together of what people are playing in and such so we can figure out who can run what. I plan on one event a day, besides those times I can help out.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 02:53 PM
Available slots for registration just got updated. 8 minutes and counting.

robbdaman
June 1st, 2008, 03:00 PM
Grrrrr, I'm probably going to miss out on the events I want due to not having a credit card at the moment. Why can't GenCon take Paypal like many other conventions? There was fraud on my card almost 3 weeks ago and apparently my bank thinks I don't need a card anytime soon because the replacement still isn't here. I'm wondering if I can purchase a Visa gift card and use that? Anyone know? It's worth a shot I guess. I'll need access to my money somehow as I'll be gone for a week or so in a few days. Of course that is when my card will finally arrive most likely. :roll:

R~

TheMainMan
June 1st, 2008, 03:03 PM
I am in for the Heroscape Heavyweight Championship of the World!!!

-TMM

Onacara
June 1st, 2008, 03:04 PM
I am all signed up!!!!

lonewolf
June 1st, 2008, 03:04 PM
Registration Complete!

Main event is down to 48 open slots at 12:07 PST

They fixed the registration for the second day!

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 03:07 PM
Signed up:

Championship
Marvel
Unique Hero
Capture Raelin
Heat of Battle

Nothing for Thursday as I will be lead volunteer all day.

mecha frog
June 1st, 2008, 03:10 PM
I'm in for the Championship, General Wars and Unique Hero events.

playa1
June 1st, 2008, 03:11 PM
Playa1 and Son all signed up for

Championship
Capture Raelin
and Heat of Battle

Want to confirm: we did not have to register for Championship day 2, right? If we make it that far, we are in one way or another.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 03:12 PM
That is correct, besides they pushed the registration out to September 1; you can't sign up for Day 2 championship anyway. ;-)

About 40 slots left of the 80 for grand championship!

Cleon
June 1st, 2008, 03:18 PM
My Dad and I are signed up for these:

Thurs.:

General Wars
Jumpstart

Fri.:

GenCon Indy Championship
Battle Above Cursed Lands

Sat.:

Championship Continued
Win A Wave
Heat Of The Battle

Sun.:

Unique Hero

Total = $152.00 :razz:

I'm most excited for General Wars and the Championship, can't wait to see you guys there!
:gencon::gencon:

Wind Lane
June 1st, 2008, 03:18 PM
Signed up and really, really just ready for it to be August already. :D

Thursday - General Wars
Friday - GenCon Championship
Saturday - Marvel Power of One
Sunday - Mind Shackle

gamjuven
June 1st, 2008, 03:19 PM
I think I'm all signed up. CHampionship, General War, and 2 others can't remember. Hope it works out. I didn't press the button at the top where it said something about cod. So will I be sent the tickets or will I have to pick them up?

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 03:20 PM
Note to all: The only event that Marvel is allowed in is the Marvel Power of One event on Saturday morning.

Even though it isn't specified in the other events, those are all non Marvel events. So if you want Marvel goodness, sign up for the Marvel Power of One.

(I did, so it must be the cool thing to do! ;-) )

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 03:22 PM
So will I be sent the tickets or will I have to pick them up?That is your preference. You can do will call or ship it to me.

sjscaper
June 1st, 2008, 03:28 PM
Just signed up for:

Championship
General Wars

Only 40 left for the chamionship. Half are gone in 24 minutes. At this rate they'll be gone in an hour.

robbdaman
June 1st, 2008, 03:29 PM
Just signed up for:

Championship
General Wars

Only 40 left for the chamionship. Half are gone in 24 minutes. At this rate they'll be gone in an hour.

Yeah, I'm pretty much screwed as far as getting in. :evil:

R~

Cleon
June 1st, 2008, 03:32 PM
Just signed up for:

Championship
General Wars

Those are the best, IMO. :D . Or at least my favorites...

sjscaper
June 1st, 2008, 03:37 PM
Just signed up for:

Championship
General Wars

Only 40 left for the chamionship. Half are gone in 24 minutes. At this rate they'll be gone in an hour.

Yeah, I'm pretty much screwed as far as getting in. :evil:

R~

Do you have anybody going to GenCon with you? You can purchase up to 2 tickes per badge. Maybe you could have a friend buy the ticket for you.

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 03:42 PM
I'M IN! Signup was suprisingly easy this time. I don't think their servers crashed or even slowed down! :shock: :up:

I signed up for:

-GenCon Championship
-Capture Raelin Tournament
-Heat of battle tournament

I also plan to attend many of the win-a-wave tournaments.;)

robbdaman
June 1st, 2008, 03:43 PM
Do you have anybody going to GenCon with you? You can purchase up to 2 tickes per badge. Maybe you could have a friend buy the ticket for you.

I do have friends I know that are going but considering I haven't solidified all my GenCon plans I wouldn't feel comfortable having someone buy $120+ of badge and tickets for me, unless I can just get someone to purchase a ticket for the champs. Not a lot of the people I know going play HeroScape though. Oh well, I'll just have to hope that by the time I get a gift card tomorrow that there will still be tickets for the events I want.

R~

GaryLASQ
June 1st, 2008, 03:44 PM
Signed up my son, brother and myself for Sat and Sun Win-a-Waves, Sat Heat-of-Battle, and Sun Unique-Hero Tournament

Heat-of-Battle and Unique-Hero are already halfway filled up!

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 03:46 PM
HoB is a great variant and was very popular last year. We had to bring it back and it looks like peeps are digging it again. The timing is also helping that event out; late in the day on Saturday gives the weekenders a chance to checkout Hall then play an HS tournament.

Onacara
June 1st, 2008, 03:46 PM
I am going to mark you guys on my roster thread (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=18690) for the events you posted here.

GaryLASQ
June 1st, 2008, 03:59 PM
The timing is also helping that event out; late in the day on Saturday gives the weekenders a chance to checkout Hall then play an HS tournament.
Yep. We're just doing Saturday badges again this year and playing the games on Sat and Sun. So Saturday is the day for getting the Exclusive and browsing the Exhibits.

My brother doesn't know this yet, but he'll be babysitting my son back at the hotel Saturday night so I can get in some Ram time this year. :)

robbdaman
June 1st, 2008, 04:01 PM
My brother doesn't know this yet, but he'll be babysitting my son back at the hotel Saturday night so I can get in some Ram time this year. :)

Heh, nothing like a surprise babysitting job. :lol: You know he'll probably want to kill you for that right?

I had a thought, anyone willing to snag a ticket for me if I Paypal them the money for it? Shot in the dark I know.

R~

MattserTruckRally
June 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM
Me and ManTrain are all signed up. We're in for the main event and for Marvel.

playa1
June 1st, 2008, 04:37 PM
I'M IN! Signup was suprisingly easy this time. I don't think their servers crashed or even slowed down! :shock: :up:

I signed up for:

-GenCon Championship
-Capture Raelin Tournament
-Heat of battle tournament

I also plan to attend many of the win-a-wave tournaments.;)

Looks like we'll be seeing a lot of one another, since I have the same sched. Only gonna stay Friday and Saturday, and that seemed to work out, though I might jump into win-a-waves if I drop out of any of them early. See you there.

stumpy_man
June 1st, 2008, 04:48 PM
I know some of the info posted in the first post will be changed but I have a question about the win-a-waves. On this thread it says they will start at 11 and go every hour until 5. But on the catalog at the gencon site it says they end at 1. So which is right?

sjscaper
June 1st, 2008, 04:55 PM
Do you have anybody going to GenCon with you? You can purchase up to 2 tickes per badge. Maybe you could have a friend buy the ticket for you.

I do have friends I know that are going but considering I haven't solidified all my GenCon plans I wouldn't feel comfortable having someone buy $120+ of badge and tickets for me, unless I can just get someone to purchase a ticket for the champs. Not a lot of the people I know going play HeroScape though. Oh well, I'll just have to hope that by the time I get a gift card tomorrow that there will still be tickets for the events I want.

R~
You won't need your friend to buy the badge, just the event ticket.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 05:50 PM
I know some of the info posted in the first post will be changed but I have a question about the win-a-waves. On this thread it says they will start at 11 and go every hour until 5. But on the catalog at the gencon site it says they end at 1. So which is right?The plan is to run the Damnation Alleys all day long until 5pm. The description is right, the time frame on the event is wrong or shall we say conservative. The last set of them will be at 5pm.

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 06:05 PM
I know some of the info posted in the first post will be changed but I have a question about the win-a-waves. On this thread it says they will start at 11 and go every hour until 5. But on the catalog at the gencon site it says they end at 1. So which is right?The plan is to run the Damnation Alleys all day long until 5pm. The description is right, the time frame on the event is wrong or shall we say conservative. The last set of them will be at 5pm.
Thanks for the clairification Ry... If I might ask... how exactly does game-play work in the win-a-waves? Are they just single elimination tournaments with 8 participants? I've never played in one so I'm curiouos. Also, why are they called Damnation alley? Did I miss something??? LoL:roll:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/par-a-dox/damnation_alley.jpg

-Thanks

Onacara
June 1st, 2008, 06:06 PM
The loser has to room with Jan Michael Vincent for the night.

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 06:17 PM
Wow... :headshake: HARSH. Wonder if he flew to the con in AIRWOLF! (loved that show as a kid)

:lol: LoL

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 06:51 PM
I know some of the info posted in the first post will be changed but I have a question about the win-a-waves. On this thread it says they will start at 11 and go every hour until 5. But on the catalog at the gencon site it says they end at 1. So which is right?The plan is to run the Damnation Alleys all day long until 5pm. The description is right, the time frame on the event is wrong or shall we say conservative. The last set of them will be at 5pm.
Thanks for the clairification Ry... If I might ask... how exactly does game-play work in the win-a-waves? Are they just single elimination tournaments with 8 participants? I've never played in one so I'm curiouos. Also, why are they called Damnation alley? Damnation Alley was a name to represent what they are: basically a row of maps at the edge or back of the area that we run these mini tourneys through; one right after the other. The win-a-waves are just as you say: 8 player,single elimination heats. You win you move on. Basically 8 player single elimination mini tournaments.

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 07:05 PM
Damnation Alley was a name to represent what they are: basically a row of maps at the edge or back of the area that we run these mini tourneys through; one right after the other. The win-a-waves are just as you say: 8 player,single elimination heats. You win you move on. Basically 8 player single elimination mini tournaments.

Excellent! Thanks for the info... I'm so relieved Jan Michael Vincent isn't involved in any way:shock: :lol:

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 07:09 PM
I'M IN! Signup was suprisingly easy this time. I don't think their servers crashed or even slowed down! :shock: :up:

I signed up for:

-GenCon Championship
-Capture Raelin Tournament
-Heat of battle tournament

I also plan to attend many of the win-a-wave tournaments.;)

Looks like we'll be seeing a lot of one another, since I have the same sched. Only gonna stay Friday and Saturday, and that seemed to work out, though I might jump into win-a-waves if I drop out of any of them early. See you there.

I look forward to meeting/playing you guys!

Grungebob
June 1st, 2008, 07:13 PM
Yes the damnation alley is just a fancy name for a small mini tourney that is "pick-up" in that you can just hop in and play. If you don't advance, you can hop in on another. I actually plan on doing a few Damnation Alleys

robbdaman
June 1st, 2008, 07:21 PM
Okay embarrassingly I asked my mom to let me use her card but got my stuff. Feel ridiculous asking at the age of 37. ;)

R~

stumpy_man
June 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM
For the win-a-waves if you purchase the event for a day can you play in as many heats as you want that day or do you have to pay for each 8 man heat you enter.

Grungebob
June 1st, 2008, 07:32 PM
For the win-a-waves if you purchase the event for a day can you play in as many heats as you want that day or do you have to pay for each 8 man heat you enter.You pay for each heat. They start frequently throughout the con.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 09:43 PM
What is up with the Marvel event? Is it a bad time slot? Is it the price? Is everyone banking on making the second day? (you can turn that event ticket over pretty easy if you make the second day)

As much controversy that gets stirred up around here about the segmentation of classic and Marvel, I thought this would be a well sought after event.

Come on, scapers! sign up and play Marvel Power of One! It is good chance to show that Marvel is something we scapers want to continue.

Onacara
June 1st, 2008, 09:46 PM
What is up with the Marvel event? Is it a bad time slot? Is it the price? Is everyone banking on making the second day? (you can turn that event ticket over pretty easy if you make the second day)

As much controversy that gets stirred up around here about the segmentation of classic and Marvel, I thought this would be a well sought after event.

Come on, scapers! sign up and play Marvel Power of One! It is good chance to show that Marvel is something we scapers want to continue.

It was a tossup for me Rychean which one I was going to play in...now if we knew for sure that Wave 1 would be out then I would have definitely played in it.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 09:53 PM
Which one? I don't follow.

There are 3 events that start Saturday morning: Marvel, Alley, and 2nd Day of Championship.

Alley you can play anytime. 2nd Day Championship must be earned on Friday. I am not seeing where the choice is?

I say again, if you make the sweet 16 you will be able to sell your Marvel event.

It will fill up in due time I guess. I just thought it would be significantly more popular; that was one of the reasons it was put on Saturday.

Onacara
June 1st, 2008, 09:55 PM
Which one? I don't follow.

There are 3 events that start Saturday morning: Marvel, Alley, and 2nd Day of Championship.

Alley you can play anytime. 2nd Day Championship must be earned on Friday. I am not seeing where the choice is?

I say again, if you make the sweet 16 you will be able to sell your Marvel event.

It will fill up in due time I guess. I just thought it would be significantly more popular; that was one of the reasons it was put on Saturday.

:duh: got my games mixed up ...I did sign up for it :rofl:


Still hope though we get Wave 1 for it :pray:

Jexik
June 1st, 2008, 09:58 PM
What is up with the Marvel event? Is it a bad time slot? Is it the price? Is everyone banking on making the second day? (you can turn that event ticket over pretty easy if you make the second day)

As much controversy that gets stirred up around here about the segmentation of classic and Marvel, I thought this would be a well sought after event.

Come on, scapers! sign up and play Marvel Power of One! It is good chance to show that Marvel is something we scapers want to continue.

Yeah, it was mostly me hoping that I'd make Day Two (or that one of my friends would and I'd watch him...) I suppose I might change my mind on that one.

R˙chean
June 1st, 2008, 10:03 PM
Well, you can always buy it on the fly if you don't make day 2.

However, I have made day 2 the last two years (and yes I am planning on doing it again!!!) and I still bought it!

Revdyer
June 1st, 2008, 10:26 PM
Just as I was about to register, a major thunderstorm passed through Central Arkansas and knocked out all the power. I have to give a special thank you to skyknight, because I phoned him on my cell phone and he got me registered for the Championship. (We didn't get power back until about twelve minutes ago.) skyknight is already a champion in my book.

When the power did come back on, I signed up for a couple of Damnation Alley slots and for the Heat of Battle, one of my favorite formats, even though I'm terrible at it.

Thanks, again, sky!

Cleon
June 1st, 2008, 10:28 PM
Well, you can always buy it on the fly if you don't make day 2.

However, I have made day 2 the last two years (and yes I am planning on doing it again!!!) and I still bought it!

Congrats Rychean, you are a great player. One of the best, in the same league as NWO and Spider Poison (and others), IMO. Also, thanks for the Marvelscape trade for the Templars last year, in case I haven't thanked you. Hope those knights do you good, and see you in August!

paradox22
June 1st, 2008, 11:04 PM
What is up with the Marvel event? Is it a bad time slot? Is it the price? Is everyone banking on making the second day? (you can turn that event ticket over pretty easy if you make the second day)

As much controversy that gets stirred up around here about the segmentation of classic and Marvel, I thought this would be a well sought after event.

Come on, scapers! sign up and play Marvel Power of One! It is good chance to show that Marvel is something we scapers want to continue.

I'm playing D&D 4th edition from 8AM-1200 PM that morning...or I would have signed up for the marvel event. If the D&D game sucks I will bail and meet you there!;)

lonewolf
June 1st, 2008, 11:19 PM
Well, you can always buy it on the fly if you don't make day 2.

However, I have made day 2 the last two years (and yes I am planning on doing it again!!!) and I still bought it!

2006 Rychean 3rd Place
2007 Rychean 2nd Place
2008 Rychean 1st Place???

skyknight
June 2nd, 2008, 05:10 AM
Just as I was about to register, a major thunderstorm passed through Central Arkansas and knocked out all the power. I have to give a special thank you to skyknight, because I phoned him on my cell phone and he got me registered for the Championship. (We didn't get power back until about twelve minutes ago.) skyknight is already a champion in my book.

When the power did come back on, I signed up for a couple of Damnation Alley slots and for the Heat of Battle, one of my favorite formats, even though I'm terrible at it.

Thanks, again, sky!
You are more than welcome sir, the funny thing is that I was at my kid's soccer game and theguru went ahead and registered me over the cell phone. One good turn deserves another though:D. I am just glad you got in. I know last year people were saying they did not believe the chamionship was a fair representation of all of the good players from around the country. I disagree a bit, especially this year, that tourney is gonna be filled with some nasty competition, I know there are a whole bunch of NHSD winners coming that way and I have a feeling this is just going to be a really really tough year. No 6ths for me this year...I am gunning for the Wolf:twisted:.;)

skyknight
June 2nd, 2008, 05:29 AM
Which one? I don't follow.



I say again, if you make the sweet 16 you will be able to sell your Marvel event.

It will fill up in due time I guess. I just thought it would be significantly more popular; that was one of the reasons it was put on Saturday.

The one that I really wanted to play as well was the classic draft, that sounds pretty cool. Problem is it conflicted with Heat of battle and I really liked that one an awful lot, so i went with Heat of Battle.

Jexik
June 2nd, 2008, 08:14 AM
Having too many cool events to pick from is a pretty good problem to have though.

Grungebob
June 2nd, 2008, 08:21 AM
I added a detailed explanation for Jumpstart to the first post. This one looks fun to me:

Check at the beginning of any of your turns. If you have at least one figure adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If during the attack phase you have two figures from the same squad that you moved this turn, adjacent to DW9000 then they may exchange their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If you begin a turn with at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed.

Onacara
June 2nd, 2008, 08:31 AM
I added a detailed explanation for Jumpstart to the first post. This one looks fun to me:

Check at the beginning of any of your turns. If you have at least one figure adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If during the attack phase you have two figures from the same squad that you moved this turn, adjacent to DW9000 then they may exchange their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If you begin a turn with at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed.

Awesome...I like

Revdyer
June 2nd, 2008, 08:41 AM
I know last year people were saying they did not believe the chamionship was a fair representation of all of the good players from around the country. I disagree a bit, especially this year, that tourney is gonna be filled with some nasty competition, I know there are a whole bunch of NHSD winners coming that way and I have a feeling this is just going to be a really really tough year. No 6ths for me this year...I am gunning for the Wolf:twisted:.;)
I don't think there is any way for an open tournament to be any more open and fair than the one at GenCon. Sure, not everyone can get there, but it would be unrealistic to expect any tournament held in one location to be available to everyone anyway. I do think we've gotten a good, solid representation of many of the "serious" 'Scape players; at least among the older, employed ones, who can afford to attend. I know the competition has not been and will not be "casual" or "slapdash." I also know it will be very good to play among such friends, even those friends I've not even met yet.

Onacara
June 2nd, 2008, 09:15 AM
To be completely honest..I dont expect to do well at all. What I do expect though is to have a great time playing a game I love to play with people I like and even some I dont :wink:. Hanging out, drinking beers, joking around..this is what conventions are all about.

playa1
June 2nd, 2008, 09:51 AM
I added a detailed explanation for Jumpstart to the first post. This one looks fun to me:

Check at the beginning of any of your turns. If you have at least one figure adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If during the attack phase you have two figures from the same squad that you moved this turn, adjacent to DW9000 then they may exchange their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If you begin a turn with at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed.

So what happens if my enemy takes control of DW9000 and I soul devour or mindshackle him?

Grungebob
June 2nd, 2008, 09:56 AM
I added a detailed explanation for Jumpstart to the first post. This one looks fun to me:

Check at the beginning of any of your turns. If you have at least one figure adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If during the attack phase you have two figures from the same squad that you moved this turn, adjacent to DW9000 then they may exchange their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If you begin a turn with at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed.

So what happens if my enemy takes control of DW9000 and I soul devour or mindshackle him?Those abilities are not to be used on DW during this game. Don't worry, we already discussed this detail.

lonewolf
June 2nd, 2008, 10:58 AM
No 6ths for me this year...I am gunning for the Wolf:twisted:.;)

Bring it Bro! You better come strong or don't come at all! :twisted:
(Wasn't a -500PD enough for you!) :D
I'll see if I can make the -520PD this year!

Scaper_Dude is going to avenge his loss to you!

:fencing:

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 11:40 AM
Well, you can always buy it on the fly if you don't make day 2.
However, I have made day 2 the last two years (and yes I am planning on doing it again!!!) and I still bought it!
2006 Rychean 3rd Place
2007 Rychean 2nd Place
2008 Rychean 1st Place???
Captn Nemo from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: "I very much doubt it."
Congrats Rychean, you are a great player. One of the best, in the same league as NWO and Spider Poison (and others), IMO. Also, thanks for the Marvelscape trade for the Templars last year, in case I haven't thanked you. Hope those knights do you good, and see you in August!I would not have remembered it was you, Cleon. Thanks for the reminder. I hauled some bounty out of the con last year but all I really wanted was the last set of Templar I needed. You made that possible, Thank you!

And I don't know about all that great player huey. For whatever reason I tend to do better at Gencon than anywhere else. I am expecting it to fall off this year. I am breaking my routine by not doing any events on Thursday and I really would like to play in the Marvel event. Playing with such excellent and admirable scapers is my only real goal.

stumpy_man
June 2nd, 2008, 11:47 AM
For the win-a-waves if you purchase the event for a day can you play in as many heats as you want that day or do you have to pay for each 8 man heat you enter.You pay for each heat. They start frequently throughout the con.

Say you wanted to do 2 heats in a day. Would you just buy 2 tickets for that event? I'm just looking to see if i'm going and wondering what events to do and I would like to play as much scape as possible.

damja
June 2nd, 2008, 12:00 PM
For the win-a-waves if you purchase the event for a day can you play in as many heats as you want that day or do you have to pay for each 8 man heat you enter.You pay for each heat. They start frequently throughout the con.

Say you wanted to do 2 heats in a day. Would you just buy 2 tickets for that event? I'm just looking to see if i'm going and wondering what events to do and I would like to play as much scape as possible.
From what I understand about this event, I would just buy generic tickets and if you decide like hopping into a tournament you just use those tickets and wait until there are 8 people in the queue.

skyknight
June 2nd, 2008, 12:23 PM
No 6ths for me this year...I am gunning for the Wolf:twisted:.;)

Bring it Bro! You better come strong or don't come at all! :twisted:
(Wasn't a -500PD enough for you!) :D
I'll see if I can make the -520PD this year!

Scaper_Dude is going to avenge his loss to you!

:fencing:


:lol::p:lol:

stumpy_man
June 2nd, 2008, 03:26 PM
And where do you find out how many generics it takes to enter a certain event? Or is it just as many that equal the price of the event?

Cleon
June 2nd, 2008, 03:33 PM
I added a detailed explanation for Jumpstart to the first post. This one looks fun to me:

Check at the beginning of any of your turns. If you have at least one figure adjacent to DW9000, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to him, then during your attack phase with that figure, you may use DW9000's normal attack instead of that figure's. If during the attack phase you have two figures from the same squad that you moved this turn, adjacent to DW9000 then they may exchange their attacks for DW9000's special explosion attack. If you begin a turn with at least three small or medium figures you control adjacent to DW9000 and no enemy figures, then you may “jumpstart” DW9000 and add him to your army by removing any three of those adjacent figures and placing them on DW9000's card. These figures may not be used while on the DW‘s army card, even if their army card has an order marker on it. Add DW9000 and his card to your army until the end of the game. You now control DW9000 as if he is part of your drafted army. Once a player takes control of DW9000, if later in the game DW is destroyed, choose one of the three figures that are on DW9000’s card and place it on the space DW9000 was standing when destroyed. place the other 2 figures adjacent to that figure. If a figure cannot be placed for any reason, destroy that figure. If the game ends, any player who controls DW9000 may add his points to his remaining total, and any figures on DW9000’s card are not considered destroyed.

Thanks GrungeBob, it sounds awesome, actually. Now that we know the rules I've decided (well, so far) to play this army:

"Favorites:" (Since it's all my favorite figures :razz:)

Venoc Warlord 120pt.
Sujoah 185pt.
Fyorlag Spiders x2 80pt.
Zetacron 60pt.
+___________________
Total = 445pt.

What do you guys think?

P.S. = Your welcome Rychean, glad to trade! :)

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 03:44 PM
This was also added to the first page for Capture Raelin:

Raelin starts in the middle of the battlefield. Raelin is never controlled by either player. Raelin never takes damage and cannot be destroyed. Raelin does not count to either players point total. Her defensive Aura is activated for the figures you control while you have a figure adjacent to her. If both players have figures adjacent to Raelin then her Aura is not active. If at the beginning of your turn, a figure on the card you are taking a turn with is adjacent to Raelin, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to her, then during your move phase that figure may "drag" Raelin. If the chosen card has the ability to fly, stealth fly, grapple, or leap that figure will be unable to use that special ability during it's move phase. Move the adjacent hero or adjacent chosen squad member on the card. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin may only be moved once per turn. If At the end of your move Raelin is in one of your original starting zones you win the game.

Wind Lane
June 2nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
This was also added to the first page for Capture Raelin:

Raelin starts in the middle of the battlefield. Raelin is never controlled by either player. Raelin never takes damage and cannot be destroyed. Raelin does not count to either players point total. Her defensive Aura is activated for the figures you control while you have a figure adjacent to her. If both players have figures adjacent to Raelin then her Aura is not active. If at the beginning of your turn, a figure on the card you are taking a turn with is adjacent to Raelin, and if your opponent doesn't also have a figure adjacent to her, then during your move phase that figure may "drag" Raelin. If the chosen card has the ability to fly, stealth fly, grapple, or leap that figure will be unable to use that special ability during it's move phase. Move the adjacent hero or adjacent chosen squad member on the card. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin may only be moved once per turn. If At the end of your move Raelin is in one of your original starting zones you win the game.

Out of curiousity, what about mounts like Theracus? Would their carry negate the no fly rule?

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
No

A valid question and we stopped just short of specifically saying, (this means Theracus cannot fly when draggin her!) But that is what it means.

Basically anyone can "drag" (carry) her, but they cannot fly, stealth fly, leap, or grapple while doing so.

The idea is that she is dead weight, unconscious and as such can not ride a mount. The unit dragging her must stay grounded.

Wind Lane
June 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM
No

A valid question and we stopped just short of specifically saying, (this means Theracus cannot fly when draggin her!) But that is what it means.

Basically anyone can "drag" (carry) her, but they cannot fly, stealth fly, leap, or grapple while doing so.

The idea is that she is dead weight, unconscious and as such can not ride a mount. The unit dragging her must stay grounded.

That's what I would have guessed, but it seemed like an interesting angle to pursue.

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 04:02 PM
No

A valid question and we stopped just short of specifically saying, (this means Theracus cannot fly when draggin her!) But that is what it means.

Basically anyone can "drag" (carry) her, but they cannot fly, stealth fly, leap, or grapple while doing so.

The idea is that she is dead weight, unconscious and as such can not ride a mount. The unit dragging her must stay grounded.

That's what I would have guessed, but it seemed like an interesting angle to pursue.
Interesting as in....game over on the second marker of the game. ;-)

As it is people better be on their toes with this one. You can lose in a hurry if you don't bring the right tools to the fight.

Grungebob
June 2nd, 2008, 04:06 PM
BTW, the unconscious Raelin may not be cyberclawed.

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM
Good catch, GB!

Jexik
June 2nd, 2008, 05:25 PM
Interesting- kind of like a Neutral CTF game, Heroscape style.

R˙chean
June 2nd, 2008, 05:28 PM
We will have more updates on the Capture Raelin event. Another item of note is that she cannot be thrown.(Juton) Look for the complete update soon.

Grungebob
June 2nd, 2008, 05:29 PM
Interesting- kind of like a Neutral CTF game, Heroscape style.Really it is just a CTF, but with the added benefit of Raelin's aura.

Revdyer
June 2nd, 2008, 05:56 PM
My daddy always said, "If the girl's gone unconscious, son, you've got to take her right home."

Wind Lane
June 2nd, 2008, 05:57 PM
My daddy always said, "If the girl's gone unconscious, son, you've got to take her right home."

Your home or her's?

I never can tell which way these things will go with you. ;)

Revdyer
June 2nd, 2008, 06:12 PM
Daddy would have insisted "hers" and I'd have had to stay on the front porch and 'splain it all to her daddy, too.

Wind Lane
June 2nd, 2008, 06:24 PM
Daddy would have insisted "hers" and I'd have had to stay on the front porch and 'splain it all to her daddy, too.

For some reason I get the mental image of a very apologetic and younger Rev quickly explaining the situation to a man resting gently in a rocking chair with a shotgun across his lap.

It makes me laugh. :lol:

Revdyer
June 2nd, 2008, 06:49 PM
That's the correct image.

Wind Lane
June 2nd, 2008, 06:57 PM
That's the correct image.

Seemed likely as my own experience in the south is that guns are just a common tool, like a shovel or a hammer might be. ;)

Onacara
June 2nd, 2008, 08:37 PM
Daddy would have insisted "hers" and I'd have had to stay on the front porch and 'splain it all to her daddy, too.

For some reason I get the mental image of a very apologetic and younger Rev quickly explaining the situation to a man resting gently in a rocking chair with a shotgun across his lap.

It makes me laugh. :lol:

I am a little scared as to how many times Rev had to make that speech...heck I am scared to think he had to make it even once. :shock:

stumpy_man
June 4th, 2008, 11:02 AM
Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere but when will the maps be announced?

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 11:06 AM
No later than July 1st.

Here is the update for the Capture Raelin event; please change on first page:



Raelin starts in the middle of the battlefield and is never controlled by either player. Raelin never takes damage and cannot be destroyed. Raelin can not be the target of an attack and cannot be subjected to, nor affected by, any special ability. Figures may not pass through Raelin even if they have powers that allow them to move through figures. Raelin does not count to either player's point total. Her Defensive Aura is activated for the figures you control while you have at least one figure adjacent to her. If both players have a least one figure adjacent to her, then her Defensive Aura is not active. At the beginning of any of your turns, if a figure on the card that you are taking a turn with, is adjacent to Raelin and if your opponent doesn't have a figure adjacent to Raelin, then during your move phase, that figure may "drag" Raelin. If the chosen card has a special move ability such as flying, stealth flying, grapple, climb, leap, charge…etc that figure will be unable to use that special move ability during it's move phase. The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move. Raelin can only be moved once per turn. At the end of your move, if Raelin has been "drug" onto any of your starting zone hexes and is not adjacent to any of your opponent's figures, you win the game. Players can also win the game be destroying all of the opponent's figures.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Can we assume that glyphs are only used in games that specify that they will be announced prior to the event?

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 11:21 AM
No, you should assume that most events will have glyphs. We will be finalizing the glyph pool per event along with the maps by July 1. There is a high probability that the Capture Raelin event will not have glyphs, due to the nature of the event. Other than that, all the other events will probably have glyphs.

Grungebob
June 4th, 2008, 11:23 AM
No, you should assume that most events will have glyphs. We will be finalizing the glyph pool per event along with the maps by July 1. There is a high probability that the Capture Raelin event will not have glyphs, due to the nature of the event. Other than that, all the other events will probably have glyphs.
I agree that the Capture Raelin does not need glyphs as Raelin herself will be the main focus.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, professor.

paradox22
June 4th, 2008, 01:34 PM
The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move.

To clarify... No matter what the speed is of the figure "dragging" Raelin, they cant move her more than 4 spaces... Correct? So troops with really high movement really don't grant an advantage to dragging her.

Also, not sure if this was covered or not... but can the Airbore Elite drop adjacent to her?

THANKS;)

Cavalier
June 4th, 2008, 01:44 PM
The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move.

To clarify... No matter what the speed is of the figure "dragging" Raelin, they cant move her more than 4 spaces... Correct? So troops with really high movement really don't grant an advantage to dragging her.

Also, not sure if this was covered or not... but can the Airbore Elite drop adjacent to her?

THANKS;)Based on the fact that their card says they can't land adjacent to another figure, I'd guess no.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 01:46 PM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, professor.


I can also make a battery out of a coconut..but I cant fix a damm boat.

Revdyer
June 4th, 2008, 01:55 PM
I can also make a battery out of a coconut..but I cant fix a damm boat.
It's the not being able to tell Gilligan from Ginger or Marianne that worries us. <grin>

Of course, The Skipper can tell the difference but it still doesn't change his behavior. That is even more worrisome.

Cavalier
June 4th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, professor.


I can also make a battery out of a coconut..but I cant fix a damm boat.-5 points to Onacara for missing the obvious Star Wars (Empire Strikes Back to be specific) reference. An addition -10 points for mistakenly thinking it was a Gilligan reference.:p

Revdyer
June 4th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, professor.


I can also make a battery out of a coconut..but I cant fix a damm boat.-5 points to Onacara for missing the obvious Star Wars (Empire Strikes Back to be specific) reference. An addition -10 points for mistakenly thinking it was a Gilligan reference.:p

<laughing> And I get lost in the backwash.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 02:21 PM
I am dissapointed at my level of geekdom :(

Grungebob
June 4th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Ok cool..thanks. I was working on some army sheets and was putting the event specs on each one and wanted to make sure I noted which had and which did not. It does help with army building you know :wink:I'm glad you're here to tell us these things, professor.


I can also make a battery out of a coconut..but I cant fix a damm boat.-5 points to Onacara for missing the obvious Star Wars (Empire Strikes Back to be specific) reference. An addition -10 points for mistakenly thinking it was a Gilligan reference.:pToo funny!! lol

robbdaman
June 4th, 2008, 02:46 PM
-5 points to Onacara for missing the obvious Star Wars (Empire Strikes Back to be specific) reference. An addition -10 points for mistakenly thinking it was a Gilligan reference.:p

-5 points to Cav for thinking that reference was an obvious one. ;) I think you need to be an Uber Star Wars fan to get it.

R~

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 02:50 PM
- 5 point for me because the quote was not accurate. Han doesn't actually refer to C3PO as professor until his next line.

paradox22
June 4th, 2008, 03:39 PM
The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move.

To clarify... No matter what the speed is of the figure "dragging" Raelin, they cant move her more than 4 spaces... Correct? So troops with really high movement really don't grant an advantage to dragging her.

Also, not sure if this was covered or not... but can the Airbore Elite drop adjacent to her?

THANKS;)Based on the fact that their card says they can't land adjacent to another figure, I'd guess no.

Shes not really being treated as "a figure" in any other way during this senario so I thought I'd ask...but thats what I figured.
I think my first qusetion got lost in the spam:spam:;)

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Right - AE can not drop right next to her.

High move figures do grant the advantage of getting there quicker; trust me, getting there is half the battle.

The Aura activates when you are adjacent and your opponent is not. You want to be able to get adjacent with Raelin early and often.

Some games will be won on the drag; others will be won in the trenches and she may never move.

We did leave it that she can only be moved once per turn instead of once per order marker.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Can we just kill her for s**ts and giggles? :p

damja
June 4th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Right - AE can not drop right next to her.

High move figures do grant the advantage of getting there quicker; trust me, getting there is half the battle.

The Aura activates when you are adjacent and your opponent is not. You want to be able to get adjacent with Raelin early and often.

Some games will be won on the drag; others will be won in the trenches and she may never move.

We did leave it that she can only be moved once per turn instead of once per order marker.
So if there is a bonding situation then she could be moved twice?

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 05:03 PM
As it currently stands....YES.

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 05:19 PM
As it currently stands....YES.
Yes me or Yes Damja?

Xaqery
June 4th, 2008, 06:39 PM
On the GENCON site General Wars is listed as a 10 to 2pm event just like Dragon wars. On the front page of this thread General Wars is listed as a 5 hour event.

I signed my kids up for the dragon war and me the General War assuming that we would finish together and move on to other events.

I also see that more people are aloud to sign up for General Wars and therefore will take longer to sort out a winner.

Where is the discrepancy? But I am afraid I can guess.

Thanks for your time -

- Dwight

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 08:58 PM
As it currently stands....YES.
Yes me or Yes Damja?
I was replying to Damja. I assumed your question was a joke since it says Raelin can not be damaged, destroyed, or targeted for attack or special ability. Did you have some other way of killing her?

Onacara
June 4th, 2008, 09:00 PM
As it currently stands....YES.
Yes me or Yes Damja?
I was replying to Damja. I assumed your question was a joke since it says Raelin can not be damaged, destroyed, or targeted for attack or special ability. Did you have some other way of killing her?

I could marry her and make her wish she was dead. :roll:

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 09:04 PM
On the GENCON site General Wars is listed as a 10 to 2pm event just like Dragon wars. On the front page of this thread General Wars is listed as a 5 hour event.

I signed my kids up for the dragon war and me the General War assuming that we would finish together and move on to other events.

I also see that more people are aloud to sign up for General Wars and therefore will take longer to sort out a winner.

Where is the discrepancy? But I am afraid I can guess.
Dwight, I have to apologize on behalf of the party that actually submitted the events. Dragon Wars is 4 rounds and General Wars is 5 rounds. The General will run longer than the 4 hour posted time. Our apologies; that element was beyond our control. General is a 5 hour event and it should have been scheduled that way. It wasn't but the description is accurate. Again, our apologies.

R˙chean
June 4th, 2008, 09:05 PM
I could marry her and make her wish she was dead. :roll: That would probably do it! :twisted:

Xaqery
June 4th, 2008, 09:51 PM
On the GENCON site General Wars is listed as a 10 to 2pm event just like Dragon wars. On the front page of this thread General Wars is listed as a 5 hour event.

I signed my kids up for the dragon war and me the General War assuming that we would finish together and move on to other events.

I also see that more people are aloud to sign up for General Wars and therefore will take longer to sort out a winner.

Where is the discrepancy? But I am afraid I can guess.
Dwight, I have to apologize on behalf of the party that actually submitted the events. Dragon Wars is 4 rounds and General Wars is 5 rounds. The General will run longer than the 4 hour posted time. Our apologies; that element was beyond our control. General is a 5 hour event and it should have been scheduled that way. It wasn't but the description is accurate. Again, our apologies.

No appologies needed. We will work sometihng out. Thanks again. I should have paid more attention to the description. I was just too excited to be signing up for GENCON events.

- Dwight

R˙chean
June 5th, 2008, 01:17 AM
We did leave it that she can only be moved once per turn instead of once per order marker.
So if there is a bonding situation then she could be moved twice?As it currently stands....YES.

And it no longer stands that way; it is going to be that Raelin can only be moved once per order marker.

Sorry for this change.

R˙chean
June 5th, 2008, 10:00 AM
We had to make a final change to the Capture Raelin event. We decided that to maintain the event's value that we needed to change the ability to drag Raelin from once per turn to once per order marker. We apologize for the continued changes to this event, but this should be the final revision. We wanted to ensure the participants enjoy their time playing and felt satisfied with the value of the event.

Up until a few weeks ago, we weren't even sure we were having these events. WOTC had challenged us to come up with twice as many events as we had previously submitted to them. Capture Raelin is an event that needed some additional tweaking. Thank you to everyone for the patience and flexibility on this item. I am confident that these changes will maintain the value of the event as well as the vision we had for this event.

Revised Event details:

Raelin starts in the middle of the battlefield and is never controlled by either player. Raelin never takes damage and cannot be destroyed. Raelin can not be the target of an attack and cannot be subjected to, nor affected by, any special ability. Figures may not pass through Raelin even if they have powers that allow them to move through figures. Raelin does not count to either player's point total. Her Defensive Aura is activated for the figures you control while you have at least one figure adjacent to her. If both players have a least one figure adjacent to her, then her Defensive Aura is not active. At the beginning of any of your turns, if a figure on the card that you are taking a turn with, is adjacent to Raelin and if your opponent doesn't have a figure adjacent to Raelin, then during your move phase, that figure may "drag" Raelin. If the chosen card has a special move ability such as flying, stealth flying, grapple, climb, leap, charge…etc that figure will be unable to use that special move ability during it's move phase. The chosen figure may not increase its move value from terrain or from any power on a glyph or card. Move the chosen figure. After you move that figure place Raelin adjacent to that figure. Raelin can be placed no more than 4 hexes away from where she was prior to the figure's move. Raelin can only be moved once per order marker. At the end of your move, if Raelin has been "drug" onto any of your starting zone hexes and is not adjacent to any of your opponent's figures, you win the game. Players can also win the game be destroying all of the opponent's figures.

Cleon
June 5th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Where is the Ram, may I ask? I was trying to find it last year, but couldn't. Or is it for 18 or older only?

Wind Lane
June 5th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Where is the Ram, may I ask? I was trying to find it last year, but couldn't. Or is it for 18 or older only?

I'm pretty sure it's a bar, which would make it for 21 and older. ;)

Cavalier
June 5th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Where is the Ram, may I ask? I was trying to find it last year, but couldn't. Or is it for 18 or older only?

I'm pretty sure it's a bar, which would make it for 21 and older. ;)
They do have a general admittance resteraunt area, if I'm not mistaken.

Revdyer
June 5th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Yes, they do; but I would think that if one were a minor, a parent or guardian would need to find the place for you. <gentle smile>

Draconious
June 6th, 2008, 02:16 AM
OK I skimmed through, I saw answers close to this but not exactly this... maybe I missed it...

The Alley tickets, they are purchaseble by the day, would this be only because you can only search per day and maybe they can work regardless of the day they were purchased? so if I bought 2 for saturday but did not use them I could use the unused ones on sunday? Just seems there is potential for it to maybe be setup this way... but maybe not.

Grungebob
June 6th, 2008, 08:42 AM
OK I skimmed through, I saw answers close to this but not exactly this... maybe I missed it...

The Alley tickets, they are purchaseble by the day, would this be only because you can only search per day and maybe they can work regardless of the day they were purchased? so if I bought 2 for saturday but did not use them I could use the unused ones on sunday? Just seems there is potential for it to maybe be setup this way... but maybe not.No if you bought a ticket for Saturday, then you must use it on Saturday. You can likely choose your time.

Draconious
June 6th, 2008, 09:54 AM
Thanks, that is what I figured, but I was hopeing... I will just get one for saturday and hope there is time and space generic ticket style if I want to play more. Since it keeps going I guess if you get eliminated you can just hop back in on the next one? or will they limit people? :) Should give a prize to the most attempts and still losing, I might actually get one that way.

Einar Gen.
June 6th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Please just tell me where to get tickets and how... I'm really new to the whole Gencon thing...

Grungebob
June 6th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Thanks, that is what I figured, but I was hopeing... I will just get one for saturday and hope there is time and space generic ticket style if I want to play more. Since it keeps going I guess if you get eliminated you can just hop back in on the next one? or will they limit people? :) Should give a prize to the most attempts and still losing, I might actually get one that way.If you get eliminated, just use generics to hop in on another, the same day or on a different day.

paradox22
June 7th, 2008, 04:21 AM
Please just tell me where to get tickets and how... I'm really new to the whole Gencon thing...

You can purchase geneeric tickets on GenCons web page as long as youve already registered for genCon. Go to www.gencon.com (http://www.gencon.com) and click on register for events, the ID number: GEN00001
They are 2.00 each and you'd need 4 of them to jump into a Damnation alley tourney.

If an event it full, then you cannot use generic tickets to get into it. I wouldnt rely on generic tickets for the Heroscape events other than the damnation alley... they will for sure fill up. So make sure you register for those individually. Their ID numbers can be found here: http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=18481

Hope that helps somewhat... :?

Cleon
June 7th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Where is the Ram, may I ask? I was trying to find it last year, but couldn't. Or is it for 18 or older only?

I'm pretty sure it's a bar, which would make it for 21 and older. ;)
They do have a general admittance resteraunt area, if I'm not mistaken.

Okay, thanks guys. :) . I'll be there in 8 years...GenCon 16'. :p

lonewolf
June 8th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Open Spots Remaining....several of the events are close to selling out...

Thursday
Dragon Wars 20/32
General Wars 25/50
Jumpstart 1/32

Friday
Championship 8/80
Capture Raelin 21/32
Battle Above 32/64

Saturday
Marvel 36/50
Classic Draft 11/32
Heat of Battle 5/50

Sunday
Unique Hero 6/50
Mind Shackle 24/32

I didn't include DA, since it is more open entry.

Grungebob
June 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Great, now let's hope we have enough volunteers to actually run these events. Looking pretty shakey right now :confused::(

damja
June 9th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Great, now let's hope we have enough volunteers to actually run these events. Looking pretty shakey right now :confused::(
I think this is the :gb: way of saying he needs some help.

Check this link

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=579469&postcount=71

Grungebob
June 9th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Yeah I need morning people.

Hendal
June 17th, 2008, 10:03 AM
I was wondering about the boards to, thanks for the info, GC can not come soon enough for me!

R˙chean
June 27th, 2008, 03:16 PM
The chosen maps are up:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=599726#post599726

Onacara
June 27th, 2008, 03:25 PM
The chosen maps are up:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=599726#post599726

:excited:

damja
July 1st, 2008, 10:46 AM
In case you didn't notice, Pre-Registration ended. I have updated all of the events with the exception of the Win-a-Waves with the number of registrations still available.

Who 'dat
July 2nd, 2008, 12:10 PM
Ok, this figures. I finally get everything in order to be able to attend GC, and I miss pre-reg. So I assume this means the only way to get that last spot in the Championship is to be on site in Indy Wed. morning and hope I get the ticket.

How can everything go so right and then so wrong in one day!? :D

Revdyer
July 2nd, 2008, 01:11 PM
Ok, this figures. I finally get everything in order to be able to attend GC, and I miss pre-reg. So I assume this means the only way to get that last spot in the Championship is to be on site in Indy Wed. morning and hope I get the ticket.

How can everything go so right and then so wrong in one day!? :DThat is sad, Who 'dat. Get there early. There's bound to be a couple of people drop out because of other circumstances. Have generic tickets in hand. I wish you well.

Who 'dat
July 2nd, 2008, 01:17 PM
Thanks, Rev. There should be plenty to do that weekend, HS and otherwise, so I shouldn't be too heart broken. I'll just have to get movin' on everything a little earlier next year.

Revdyer
July 2nd, 2008, 01:25 PM
Well, have some Revrep to tide you over.

Who 'dat
July 2nd, 2008, 03:04 PM
Well, have some Revrep to tide you over.

Oh man! Shiny new Revrep! Much appreciation.

Eirikr
July 12th, 2008, 03:44 AM
Could anyone share the time limits for the championship games and other events please?
Sorry if this has already come up but a search did not yeild positive results.
Thanks.

gamjuven
July 17th, 2008, 10:49 AM
I'm freaking out about the Gencon Championship. So much pressure, so many good players involved. I wanna do well and save face. What army to pick?! What is everyone else gonna play?! AAARRGGHHH!!!

I also hear they sacrifice the losers to the Dice Gods in order to stimulate growth for the game.......so there's that to think of as well.

Jexik
July 17th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I'm freaking out about the Gencon Championship. So much pressure, so many good players involved. I wanna do well and save face. What army to pick?! What is everyone else gonna play?! AAARRGGHHH!!!

I also hear they sacrifice the losers to the Dice Gods in order to stimulate growth for the game.......so there's that to think of as well.

Yeah, and for some of these people, it'll be their third time going.

I'm starting to think that for me at least, I won't worry too much about what other people are playing, or about what the maps or glyphs are, and just pick a good army that I feel comfortable playing. I'll still try to get practice in against most of the probable armies and of course try all of the maps out, but I have a bad habit of not playing armies because I'm worried what one specific unit will do it.

Onacara
July 17th, 2008, 11:04 AM
I'm freaking out about the Gencon Championship. So much pressure, so many good players involved. I wanna do well and save face. What army to pick?! What is everyone else gonna play?! AAARRGGHHH!!!

I also hear they sacrifice the losers to the Dice Gods in order to stimulate growth for the game.......so there's that to think of as well.

Yeah, and for some of these people, it'll be their third time going.

I'm starting to think that for me at least, I won't worry too much about what other people are playing, or about what the maps or glyphs are, and just pick a good army that I feel comfortable playing.


Very good point Jexik. I want to also add that I have gotten to sit across the table from some really good players at the local tournaments and been in the same room with many other good players and everyone has a bad day once in a while and some days things just go your way. If you go with an army you think will do well for you and have a good time regardless if they live up to their billing or bomb like Gilgi then you are a winner.

killercactus
July 17th, 2008, 11:09 AM
I'm freaking out about the Gencon Championship. So much pressure, so many good players involved. I wanna do well and save face. What army to pick?! What is everyone else gonna play?! AAARRGGHHH!!!

I also hear they sacrifice the losers to the Dice Gods in order to stimulate growth for the game.......so there's that to think of as well.

I'm trying to decide whether I care about saving face or not. On one hand, I wanna come back from Gencon, log onto Heroscapers and see tourney results with my name at the top with the respected players. On the other hand, I have this mad desire to play Runa beyond the expectations that everyone has set for her. Somehow I don't see myself accomplishing both of those at the same time.... and I definitely don't want to be sacrificed to the Dice Gods.

lonewolf
July 17th, 2008, 11:20 AM
I'm freaking out about the Gencon Championship. So much pressure, so many good players involved. I wanna do well and save face. What army to pick?! What is everyone else gonna play?! AAARRGGHHH!!!

I also hear they sacrifice the losers to the Dice Gods in order to stimulate growth for the game.......so there's that to think of as well.

I'm feeling the pressure as well. I am down to two armies that I am want to play. The first I really enjoy playing and it does pretty good against most competition.....the second isn't as fun to play, but I haven't been able to beat it yet. I feel the pressure to play the second army and do well, but I really like the first army. AAARRGGHHH!!!

I am going to start playtesting for all the other events and come back to the championship in a couple weeks.

gamjuven
July 17th, 2008, 11:33 AM
If you play Runa in the Championship killercactus, I'll sacrifice you to the gods on shear principle.

I'm sure you'll do fine, you rank right up there in terms of excellent army picking. Your armies are genius. I just hope I don't have to play you in Day 1. (bellows at the gods) At least let me make it to day 2, I can aim at that lofty goal first!

All the other events I'm going for a more "fun value" when it comes to preparing and playing. The Championship requires a little more serious planning. (As serious you can get when playing a game designed for 8 yr olds and up)

killercactus
July 17th, 2008, 11:47 AM
That's scary... I have been playtesting Runa, Minions x2, Q9 (or raelin/krav) a little bit, but I don't think it has everything I want out of a championship army. I think I have a better idea for the championship, but Runa will make her mark somewhere.

By the way, +rep to you for calling my armies genius :D.

playa1
July 17th, 2008, 11:48 AM
The way I see it, you gotta go with what you have fun with. The army I plan on playing doesn't win consistently, but isn't completely horrible. I can pick a better, more consistent army that isn't as much fun for me, but I don't think I will. (Though winning is always fun).

The fact is, if I go in with MY army and lose, well it just wasn't meant to be. If I go in with an army I chose just to win, . . . and lose, then that'll really suck. There are just too many factors, and I don't think there is one army that will always win no matter what.

I guess what i mean is, "I just gotta be me".

gamjuven
July 17th, 2008, 11:59 AM
That's scary... I have been playtesting Runa, Minions x2, Q9 (or raelin/krav) a little bit, but I don't think it has everything I want out of a championship army. I think I have a better idea for the championship, but Runa will make her mark somewhere.

By the way, +rep to you for calling my armies genius :D.

I'm sure you'd do fine with the Q9/minion/runa army, but I agree with you that it probably doesn't have everything you need from an army. Runa definitely has her place in other events. Heck, she could be awesome in the all-hero build. And thanks for the rep!

Cleon
July 17th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Since I'm in 7 different events (same as my dad), I'm not worrying about some events as much as bigger events. Like I'm working very hard on the Championship army (I'm 90% sure what I'm playing, the army hasn't lost yet), but I'm just playing a favorite army for Jumpstart that I don't intend on practicing much with.

R˙chean
July 17th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Could anyone share the time limits for the championship games and other events please?
Sorry if this has already come up but a search did not yeild positive results.
Thanks.
You should plan on 50 minutes maximum of game time. We (Heroscapers) are not running these things; the third party vendor of WOTC is running them, so Grungebob, myself, truth nor anybody on this site can say with any degree of certainty exactly how much game time will be allowed. As a rule, it was set up to be 1 hour rounds for most events but with time needed in between to reset, 45-50 minutes is probably what you are looking at. I apologize that a more definitive answer can not be given. The Scapers that are volunteering, lead or otherwise, are merely consultants to the people contracted to run the events. The bottom line answer is beyond our control and our knowledge.

All that said...50 minutes is probably the max you can expect and that is from the pairing, not from when you actually start rolling for initiative. Even if a round or game starts late, the effort will be to keep things on time, so the time allowed could be even lower depending on how things are going during the course of each day.

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And for the rest of you: Save face? Can't we all just have fun? I don't need the added pressure you guys are throwing around. 8-)

Grungebob
July 17th, 2008, 01:57 PM
Thanks Rychean! Yes that pretty much sums it up. My guess is that we will get a little behind on some events, but that is usual for miniature events at Gencon (not mine but I will have to get used to a new lower standard in this area). The idea is to have more events for heroscape enthusiasts. We want to have the events scheduled in the least amount of time possible as Gencon charges by the hour. Gencon raised prices this year so those organizing the events (Rychean, Truth, myself and a bunch of volunteers are just the on hand judges making sure these things are running smooth) are already charging high entry fees, we don't want those to go any higher.

Revdyer
July 17th, 2008, 01:57 PM
In addition to what Rychean and Grungebob have just said, let me add a simple, "Relax!" It is, really, a game, a good time, fun; so the preparation for it should be "a game, a good time, fun." If you've moved out of that space, step back, breathe deeply, and enjoy...your life, your friends, your health, your self.

Onacara
July 17th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Ok besides my original reasons to want to play against Ry, Grunge and Rev...you can add these posts here to the list.

I am far from a great player...but I love to play ..especially when it is against someone other than just my kids. If you don't have fun playing a game then you shouldn't bother.


GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?

Revdyer
July 17th, 2008, 02:23 PM
GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?As a volunteer last year, I'd add: pointing out the restrooms, helping people find seats, chasing after wayward children, telling people how to get to other displays and areas, and finding lost items. ("I left my fourth Deathreaver here two hours ago. Has anyone found it? I think it got knocked onto the floor.")

lonewolf
July 17th, 2008, 02:43 PM
I am by far a great player...but I love to play.


Did you mean "I am far from a great player"?

Onacara
July 17th, 2008, 02:43 PM
GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?As a volunteer last year, I'd add: pointing out the restrooms, helping people find seats, chasing after wayward children, telling people how to get to other displays and areas, and finding lost items. ("I left my fourth Deathreaver here two hours ago. Has anyone found it? I think it got knocked onto the floor.")


Noted. :thumbsup:

Onacara
July 17th, 2008, 02:44 PM
I am by far a great player...but I love to play.


Did you mean "I am far from a great player"?

OMG :oops: of all the poorly structured sentences to make.

You are correct. I started writing "I am by no means a great player" and then wanted to change it to "Far from a good player" and made myself look like a pompous ass instead of just a regular ass.

mecha frog
July 17th, 2008, 02:48 PM
I am by far a great player...but I love to play ..especially when it is against someone other than just my kids. If you don't have fun playing a game then you shouldn't bother.

Off topic I know, but I just had a vision. We're all aware of the Soccer Mom. Well I now present you with the Heroscape Dad. He sits up in the stands cheering on his kid. Yelling words of encouragement like, "Roll a skull! Roll a skull!" or "No! Shields!!! Shields!!!"

I mostly get to Scape with my kids, too, and we almost always play with "cool" armies as opposed to competitive ones. I think there is a lot of value to playing in our GenCon events to have fun and not just looking for the win.

R˙chean
July 17th, 2008, 02:51 PM
GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?
Rules clarifications? Yes. LOS Disputes? NO. There are rules in place for LOS disputes. Volunteers simply need to instruct the participants to roll the D20. No volunteer, judge, or otherwise should be determining LOS for anybody. If the participants can not agree on LOS, instruct them to follow the rules and roll the D20.

Onacara
July 17th, 2008, 03:04 PM
GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?
Rules clarifications? Yes. LOS Disputes? NO. There are rules in place for LOS disputes. Volunteers simply need to instruct the participants to roll the D20. No volunteer, judge, or otherwise should be determining LOS for anybody. If the participants can not agree on LOS, instruct them to follow the rules and roll the D20.



Gotcha!! Just want make sure I am prepared to fulfill my duty.


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hee hee hee duty

playa1
July 18th, 2008, 12:56 PM
I am by far a great player...but I love to play ..especially when it is against someone other than just my kids. If you don't have fun playing a game then you shouldn't bother.

Off topic I know, but I just had a vision. We're all aware of the Soccer Mom. Well I now present you with the Heroscape Dad. He sits up in the stands cheering on his kid. Yelling words of encouragement like, "Roll a skull! Roll a skull!" or "No! Shields!!! Shields!!!"

I mostly get to Scape with my kids, too, and we almost always play with "cool" armies as opposed to competitive ones. I think there is a lot of value to playing in our GenCon events to have fun and not just looking for the win.

I am a Heroscape Dad. I just have to remember to stick to yelling encouragement and not giving advice! Whenever I play him, I always end up telling him when he can get a better move on me, so it is an innocent habit. In fact, I'll probably end up doing that to my opponents too:

"You know you could probably kill my dragon with Krug if you break engagement with my two ghosts! And you'll avoid an embarrassing sould devour to boot!"

"Thanks, dude!"

"Sure" (feeling stupid) :oops:

Fallen Templar
July 19th, 2008, 12:28 AM
Does one Army have to play through the whole tournament or can we change up what army we use between matches?

Grungebob
July 19th, 2008, 12:54 AM
GB and RY: Since I volunteered to help out on one of the days I am assuming we are there to be the impartial judge if there is a question regarding LOS etc as well as clarify a rule as needed right?
Rules clarifications? Yes. LOS Disputes? NO. There are rules in place for LOS disputes. Volunteers simply need to instruct the participants to roll the D20. No volunteer, judge, or otherwise should be determining LOS for anybody. If the participants can not agree on LOS, instruct them to follow the rules and roll the D20.
There should be no LOS disputes. You either see it or you don't. Where is the dispute?

ChaosChild
July 19th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Does one Army have to play through the whole tournament or can we change up what army we use between matches?

Same army throughout any one tournament.

skyknight
July 20th, 2008, 07:12 AM
I should probably start thinking about what armies I am bringing I guess....last year I did it a couple of days ahead of time. I tend to procrastinate on these things.:D

R˙chean
July 20th, 2008, 10:34 AM
There should be no LOS disputes. You either see it or you don't. Where is the dispute?I agree, GB.

Unfortunately I have seen it too many times and been on the receiving end of such shenanigans. There are ultra competitive players that sometimes have their vision clouded or compromised by their desire to win. In all my tournament games of heroscape, I have only ever encountered one player that managed to see things that weren't actually there.

I just want to make it abundantly clear that no volunteer should ever be weighing in on LOS. There is already a rule that covers it; we don't need or want event personnel messing with it.

I should probably start thinking about what armies I am bringing I guess....last year I did it a couple of days ahead of time. I tend to procrastinate on these things.:D

This worked out pretty well for you last year so perhaps we do want you thinking about it MORE. Maybe you will second guess yourself right out of the best army for you to play. :twisted:

Grungebob
July 20th, 2008, 10:40 AM
There should be no LOS disputes. You either see it or you don't. Where is the dispute?I agree, GB.

Unfortunately I have seen it too many times and been on the receiving end of such shenanigans. There are ultra competitive players that sometimes have their vision clouded or compromised by their desire to win. In all my tournament games of heroscape, I have only ever encountered one player that managed to see things that weren't actually there.

I just want to make it abundantly clear that no volunteer should ever be weighing in on LOS. There is already a rule that covers it; we don't need or want event personnel messing with it.

We'll be there to help with whatever we have to, but if folks can't even determine LOS then we have a problem. You can either see the enemy figure or not. Don't call us over for something you should be able to determine yourself.

Onacara
July 20th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Sorry didn't mean to cause a stir..I guess it is just me being used to having youngsters around who don't always know how to determine LOS.

paradox22
July 21st, 2008, 10:01 PM
There are two ways to get your Agent Skahen promo at GenCon. The first is to play in any Heroscape tournament – you’ll get one for each tournament you play in. The second is to come to the Wizards of the Coast booth when the exhibit hall opens.


Are the Damnation alley events considered "tournaments" for the purpose of securing a promo figure?

Cleon
July 21st, 2008, 10:22 PM
There are two ways to get your Agent Skahen promo at GenCon. The first is to play in any Heroscape tournament – you’ll get one for each tournament you play in. The second is to come to the Wizards of the Coast booth when the exhibit hall opens.


Are the Damnation alley events considered "tournaments" for the purpose of securing a promo figure?

I asume so since they are put along with the other tournaments, and since heats are much like typical tournaments. (But don't take my word for it)

Grungebob
July 21st, 2008, 10:25 PM
There are two ways to get your Agent Skahen promo at GenCon. The first is to play in any Heroscape tournament – you’ll get one for each tournament you play in. The second is to come to the Wizards of the Coast booth when the exhibit hall opens.


Are the Damnation alley events considered "tournaments" for the purpose of securing a promo figure?

I asume so since they are put along with the other tournaments, and since heats are much like typical tournaments. (But don't take my word for it)
You will get a Skahen for attending a Damnation Alley event. And really! These are fun. It is like a mini tourney and only takes up 1-3 hours. Great way to try out armies or settle grudges with rivals. Also an easy way to get a Skahen for somebody who is willing to sponsor you.