Where will HeroScape be in 2008?

[Ditzer]

Just got some great news... My wife and I will be Peace Corps Volunteers serving in Costa Rica! We are scheduled to return September, 2008. I won't be able to bring my toys with me. (They suggest leaving anything that is irreplaceable at home!) I wonder what new HeroScape stuff will be waiting for me when I return. Man am I excited!

[skyknight]

I think by 2008 Heroscape will be old and retired and starring in a Mexican Donkey show. Who knows maybe not :lol:

[jbbnbsmith]

I don't mean to sound like a party pooper, but I don't know how much more new stuff I'll actually buy. I've certainly done my fair share to keep Hasbro in the black, but I'm reaching a saturation point where I have more units than I'll ever need. There are some figs I've never even used yet in a game! I will probably pick up a few castle sets but that may be it for me in terms of purchasing. I'll keep playing, and maybe selectively buy some new units from time to time, but I think my days of buying four sets of every expansion are drawing to a close. I may be changing my tune in a month or so when details about wave 5 hit, but I wasn't all that thrilled when I saw "the shelf".

Heroscape in 2008? I envision a fully 3-D rendered computer version. Create your own maps ala landscape & solidscape, every characters is rendered in 3-d and fully animated, special graphics effects for special abilities, etc. How about Heroscape in 2028? Holographic figures that move around on the board like the Star Wars chess game in episode iV!

[Mud Turkey 13]

In order to control over-buying my friends and I have a sort of system worked out. I buy two of every common expansion and one set of the hero expansion and then we play with those. If a squad gets used a lot then one of the other guys will buy a set or two so we have extra. That way no one is spending a ton of money(although I'm still spending the most and everyone acknowledges that but I'm still fine with it) and we get just the right amount of units. There are a few units I've bought more than two of, but that was just because I really liked them and decided we needed more.

[GaryLASQ]

i'll bet my first born there will be an official Star Wars expansion set for HS by 2008. *sigh*

[Augray]

I bet Craig, Rob and the gang have some cool stuff planned.

[Joah]

i'll bet my first born there will be an official Star Wars expansion set for HS by 2008. *sigh* Probably, But I'll hold out until then with you Gary.

[ultradoug]

I think by 2008 Heroscape will be old and retired and starring in a Mexican Donkey show. Who knows maybe not :lol:

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[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

Q. Where will HeroScape be in 2008?
A. Coming soon

[netherspirit]

On the Moon.

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

ignore this post

[dra(gon)]

how long will heroscape run? in fact if the hs ms go down why sould the game support. look heroquest and starquest some expansions and the game was over , snow, lava ,castel, and road are good expansions but never a big shot you need a ms oder twice. so mabe some times comes a 2nd ms game that has land like the ms set and a buch of nev figure.

the end of hs will be ms set with wave 1-5 figures.
you get a compleat wave and ms tils. so you can buy wave 1-5 and get five sets.

[SyvarrisX]

On planet Earth. But also, I think that it will still be being made...

[TheRealQ]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time. A lot of those boys playing with whatever is bought for them are going to grow into teens with jobs or allowances. When they go off to college a lot of them are going to take their games with them and use them as a social interaction opportunity. Back in the 90's campuses everywhere had students sitting down to Magic the Gathering. In the 80's it was RPG's. I expect HS to have a similar effect in the 2010's.

I expect HS to span generations the same way that D&D has. Different people like D&D for different reasons...the same can be said for HS. The main draw to both though is that no two sessions has to be the same.

I expect Hasbro will capitalize on this at some point and make other variations of a Master Set. (perhaps StarWars, Marvel, or something along the lines of WH40K) In addition they could always add new generals, new rule sets, or even a different Valhallla Master Set.

My children are 9 and 4 but I wholeheartedly expect to be playing this with my grandchildren when the day comes.

Now I'll step off my soapbox and address the first question. It appears as though Hasbro plans on 4 waves of characters per year as well as 2 sets of large characters and 2 sets of terrain. In addition I believe that something new, like the castle set, will be released each year. If you are gone for 2 full years I forecast that 32 character packs (12 uniques/20 common), 4 terrain packs, 4 large character packs, and 2 of something completely new will be waiting for you to buy. The problem will be that a lot of them won't be in stores and you will be at the mercy of collectors unless Hasbro is nice enough to continue stocking everything online.

If you come home and decide to buy just one of everything that you don't have you're probably going to be out about $700 to catch up. At the same time, I expect a lot of players won't be buying everying that comes along. With so many options available players will be able to specialize their armies. They will be able to focus on a single general or a specific style of play.

Either way I expect HS will have gone through so many additions that for some time after your return you'll see something new and have to stop the game to either read an army card or some new rule or aspect of the game.

[countblah]

I predict that Heroscape will, unfortunately, be gone by 2008. It'll probably wrap up sometime next year, which is probably fine. What with it being a limited system, there is only so much that can be done in it before it starts to push its limits. Having said that, what Hasbro gave us, more than plastic pieces, is an eternally modifiable game, which will continue in our hands long after Hasbro has stopped supporting it. Booya us! Power to the people!

[ultradoug]

I plan on selling Tae on ebay for 9,000,000,000 or something.

[vernz]

I plan on selling Tae on ebay for 9,000,000,000 or something. sounds like a good price so you better stock up on them so you can be super rich lol

[InfinityMax]

Where will HS be in 2008?

In my pants.

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

I plan on selling Tae on ebay for 9,000,000,000 or something.If you do, you might want to change your signature..

"I don't cost that much!"
-Taelord, Kyrie Warrior

[Alastair MacDirk]

I predict that by 2008 Thaelenk Tundra and Raknar's Vision will finally become available at local retailers like Target and Walmart. If not, then perhaps by 2009.

[Joah]

I predict that by 2008 Thaelenk Tundra and Raknar's Vision will finally become available at local retailers like Target and Walmart. If not, then perhaps by 2009. Is it just me, or are we getting funnier with every site move? :lol:

[Alastair MacDirk]

I predict that by 2008 Thaelenk Tundra and Raknar's Vision will finally become available at local retailers like Target and Walmart. If not, then perhaps by 2009. Is it just me, or are we getting funnier with every site move? :lol:

It's just you :banana:

[ultradoug]

Where will HS be in 2008?

In my pants http://www.heroscapers.com/community/images/smiles/banana.gif.

:quarter:

[DEATHWALKER 1970]

I think that in terms of new terrain, there might not be a lot of possibilities left. Sure, desserts or jungle would make some people happy, but it´s not very appropriate for the Valhallan setting! (I live in Denmark,Scandinavia where the legends that Heroscape is LOOSELY based upon, originate from, and trust me when I tell you that there are no vast expanses of sand or towering palm trees outside my windows!) In terms of new figures though, there´s a lot of possibilities yet to explore, both historically and from the universes of sci-fi and fantasy. (Horror too?)

And there´s always franchising, Star Wars or Marvel or whatever...
I have the idea that Heroscape came about when HASBRO asked their games designers to "Make something like Warhammer, but you know, for kids!" And thinking along these lines, it might be fun with an expanded rules system, designed to take HS from small skirmishes to larger battles. But I´m sure they´ll surprise us all and come up with new stuff, that noone else thought about, the Castle opens up new ways to go, with siege engines and everything, and how about making the Kyrie generals, Jandar, Utgar et al, as minis to lead their armies...?

[DEATHWALKER 1970]

I think that in terms of new terrain, there might not be a lot of possibilities left. Sure, desserts or jungle would make some people happy, but it´s not very appropriate for the Valhallan setting! (I live in Denmark,Scandinavia where the legends that Heroscape is LOOSELY based upon, originate from, and trust me when I tell you that there are no vast expanses of sand or towering palm trees outside my windows!) In terms of new figures though, there´s a lot of possibilities yet to explore, both historically and from the universes of sci-fi and fantasy. (Horror too?)

And there´s always franchising, Star Wars or Marvel or whatever...
I have the idea that Heroscape came about when HASBRO asked their games designers to "Make something like Warhammer, but you know, for kids!" And thinking along these lines, it might be fun with an expanded rules system, designed to take HS from small skirmishes to larger battles. But I´m sure they´ll surprise us all and come up with new stuff, that noone else thought about, the Castle opens up new ways to go, with siege engines and everything, and how about making the Kyrie generals, Jandar, Utgar et al, as minis to lead their armies...?

[Ditzer]

Well, my guess is that I will probably be missing a lot of stuff. I'm going to have to arrange for an assistant who can buy the stuff as it comes out. Otherwise I fear for having to pay collectors prices for things that are no longer on the toy shelves.

[Nightmare]

In 2008, Heroscape will most likely start to feel the strain of the bungee cord that is the market.
And therefore, it shall be locked in a special vault that not even God could break into, and I would own it.

[jcb231]

I think there is still a LOT of untapped potential for HS. The other day I had the misfortune of being stuck as a backseat passenger on a loooong car trip, and I passed the time by sketching out ideas for future waves. In just an hour or so before I fell asleep, I was able to think of many areas that had not been fully explored, making enough for at least a couple more years.

Major factions that Hasbro hasn't tapped include Dwarves and Merfolk....Vampyres were hinted at a while back at Gencon, so hopefully we'll see them. Elves, Gruts, Knights, and so on all have much more room for expansion. The possiblities are virtually unending.

What's great about this sort of game is that as new things come out, new areas open for further expansion.

As for new terrain types, I think Swamp is a logical choice, but new types of trees are a front runner too. I'd love to see something other than pines! Quicksand and other types of hazards are a good fun option as well. Maybe large rocks? Marro Hives? Grut Forts? etc etc....

[Codeman]

The question is were will we be ( or our HS stuff )? In not yet a year I’ve acquired 5 master sets, 3 thru the forest ( I want more), 2 lava, and all most one of ever expansion and multiples of a few of those expansions. I’m already filling two 12-gallon tubs plus a few smaller containers. Looks like I will have to build or send a child out of our house and take over a bedroom.

HS will be just fine.... I will be broke.

[Revdyer]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time. A lot of those boys playing with whatever is bought for them are going to grow into teens with jobs or allowances. When they go off to college a lot of them are going to take their games with them and use them as a social interaction opportunity. Back in the 90's campuses everywhere had students sitting down to Magic the Gathering. In the 80's it was RPG's. I expect HS to have a similar effect in the 2010's.


Two of our group (one of whom is me) are well over 50. But the dynamic described by TheRealQ is right. I've been playing Stratego, chess, backgammon, Othello, dominoes, and various card games all my life just about. I think HS has that kind of long play-life too. College D&D memories, in fact, are part of what interested me in HeroScape forty years later.

Habro will make their business decisions, of course. But if they handle the product right, they'll have a money maker for a long time (cp. Monopoly and Scrabble).

[Gimoo]

If it's still around, the gameplay will have been worn thin by characters wielding endless nonsense specials and modifications, much like what happened to Magic the Gathering.

[TheRealQ]

If it's still around, the gameplay will have been worn thin by characters wielding endless nonsense specials and modifications, much like what happened to Magic the Gathering.

Remember, MtG has been around since 93 (or 92) so has been around 13 or 14 years. After 10 or more years HS will have a ton of powers and variations but it has a limiter that MtG doesn't. With HS you know what the other player has before the first initiative is thrown. If HS came out with just the things people on this site have already thought up it will take 5 to 10 years to produce.

BTW, I was still active with MtG in 97 and didn't notice a slow down. This was 4 years into my playing it. The original question in this thread is about HS in 08, 4 years after it came out. Like MtG, HS will be strong and growing after 4 years and hopefully still have a huge following after 14 years.

[Ghostdogg]

IMHO the game will be that much stronger in 08. But then again that is my 2 cents. :)

[Teamski]

I'm surprised at all of the negative vibes here. I think that Heroscape will be alive and kicking in '08. With a couple new ideas, the HS system can continue to grow and grow. I know I will still be there with my cash in '08!

-Ski

[Ghostdogg]

ditto

[jcb231]

So...next logical question:

For those (like me) that feel the system will be alive for quite a while, what do you think the next "big" innovation in the game will be?

We can play around with quirky little new powers in each wave and do just fine with that for a long time, but sooner or later a big innovation will be needed....Bonding was huge in wave one. Common heroes were big in wave two. Powers requiring markers were big in wave four.....what's next? New terrains and castles are steps in the right direction....but what other innovations could come along to really open up some possibilities?

[skyknight]

The next big release is going to be Vahalla itself, mark my words. It is going to take the battle to the heavens. There is only so far you can go with landscape. Sooner or later you have to start a new line so to speak. This will allow Hasbro to release all sorts of buildings with seperate powers, a blacksmith shop, the main hall, the landscape will probably represent clouds or something. The Rainbow bridge, I can almost guarantee that sooner or later Hasbro is going to shift the focus slightly to insure that you keep buying. A release like this would be labelled as a new master set with all the expansions rolling out right behind. We really have everything now except a swamp, soon also I bet. I am already counting the castle. I feel it in my bones that some sort of cityscape is coming. Anybody wanna bet this is the Gencon sneak peek!!!!

[Keebler]

I agree with Skynight. If Hasbro is going to continue to produce Heroscapes the will need a new master set before to long. In order to keep selling the large voulumes for the big boxes they are going to need to keep things fresh. To be honest I'm suprised it has been around as long as it has. Many games come in go in the space of a year. Look at the games in Target and Walmart and see how different HS really is. When the Master Set first came out I was worried that I would miss it. I figured anything this cool obviously couldn't sell at the box stores and would be gone before the end of the year. I love the game and am happy that it's still going strong. I can't wait to see what they come up with next, I would love to see the system keep going for years to come.

[feekonea]

Well luckily I know the answer for this question, and its not vahalla, Its me! Im the single greatest hero ever! Once I hit the shelves everyone will just start buying!

[dra(gon)]

a new ms is a good ida, maybe a city expansin with buldings in combo with castel expansion. in new waves i see demons , witchs, dwarfs, cavemen.

but a new ms is a must , like wastland, utgart.

[morgonis]

for the longest time we had tiles to play on, then finally they released the bridge and trees, the bridge even had a small wall...then the Lava set, and now the Tundra set, what factors did these sets bring to the game?

Lava......crowd control, a way to efectivly channel where players will go on the board, some will grab armies that can cross of course, but most wont

Bridge....movement and defense, gave a way to quickly cross the playing field and gave us trees, the first offical release besides tiles to hide behind

Tundra...again new ways to control movement, and more things to hide behind

Castle...no idea how the rules will work, but im gonna give it the general "something to hide behind" mark


ok, now going along these lines, I think its safe to say the next and future terrien expensions will include things to hide behind and things that effet movement in some shape....Desert? we have sand tiles already so not really expecting that one to much...Jungle? we have greeb tiles, pretty much covered for that...could possibly be a expansion that is just jungle trees and or sand dunes to fill that niche though....but im thinking some kind of buildings are next, huts or similar, things to hide behind and or hide IN...but thats just my specualtion :)

[TheRealQ]

I expect a lot of little things before the next BIG thing. The next big new idea I hope to see will be artifacts and siegecraft items. With castles coming out they almost have to throw some machinations in there. I'd like to see a new class of figure that is neither hero nor squad but inanimate objects that modify the attack, defense, movement, range, or even Special Attack of an adjacent figure(s). For instance a ballistae; if a figure begins a turn next to said ballistae he may forgo his move and attack to allow the ballistae to attack instead. Ballistae L2,M0,R10,A4,D2. This is just a crude example on the spur of the moment but I hope it gets the idea across. Other items could be vehicles, mobile barracades, new glyphs, seige engines, amulets...

Speaking of amulets gives me another idea. Just as Morsbane can drop a marker on someone making them lose their powers you can have a hero who has a limited number of markers to distribute that enhance targeted figures.

Back to my original thought, I say the next BIG thing has almost got to have something to do with the castle set.

[Rodriquez]

just my few thoughts worth

by than hasbro will either have a)set up a test group knowing that the majority of players arent 8-15 but rather 20-40 or b)will have sold the R&D rights to a company that does cater to the more "mature" type games.


so by than we should see more units, squads, Hero's who have a wider range of talents/specials/auras, and which arent just based on about a handful of worded specials..

ye'll also see a better selection of terrain which are more suited for a "real world" than a poor worded Tundra are(however in defense I think the tundra sets are kewl lookin but the rules for them leave a lot to be desired)

also there will be more types of artifacts than just trees and glyphs...and lousy generic "ruin" walls... but I dont thin we'll see a big improvement in the castle set...ye can tell it's aimed at those 8-11 yrs...

cheers.

don't get me wrong here, I enjoy this game verra much, but it does leave a lot to be desired in terms of fiqures, rules, terrains...and alot of "silliness" to overcome if they do change the age market to the older generation..

[Revdyer]

I'm waiting for the Porno Wave, with Pimps and Hookers, Junkies and Dealers. That'll make the marketing shift from kids to older people, for sure.

[skyknight]

I want you to be my reverend, that settles it. I am becoming Presbyterian and denouncing the Catholics.... Well maybe not, my priest is also a cop, so he shoots people, can you one up this by chance? :P

[ultradoug]

mettalscape ;)

[Revdyer]

I've got the answer, skyknight...stay Catholic but have Presbyterian friends.

[skyknight]

I'm friends with everyone :D

[bighamrules]

i hope it still around

[jcb231]

I expect a lot of little things before the next BIG thing. The next big new idea I hope to see will be artifacts and siegecraft items. With castles coming out they almost have to throw some machinations in there. I'd like to see a new class of figure that is neither hero nor squad but inanimate objects that modify the attack, defense, movement, range, or even Special Attack of an adjacent figure(s). For instance a ballistae; if a figure begins a turn next to said ballistae he may forgo his move and attack to allow the ballistae to attack instead. Ballistae L2,M0,R10,A4,D2. This is just a crude example on the spur of the moment but I hope it gets the idea across. Other items could be vehicles, mobile barracades, new glyphs, seige engines, amulets...

Speaking of amulets gives me another idea. Just as Morsbane can drop a marker on someone making them lose their powers you can have a hero who has a limited number of markers to distribute that enhance targeted figures.

Back to my original thought, I say the next BIG thing has almost got to have something to do with the castle set.

Hmm...some good ideas there. Your "inanimate objects" idea got me spinning off into the possiblities of stationary "dangers" like man-eating plants or mechanincal traps. Things that fight everyone but don't really move. That has some potential I think....there could even be figures that place objects like landmines or beartraps....hmmm....

[jcb231]

The next big release is going to be Vahalla itself, mark my words. It is going to take the battle to the heavens. There is only so far you can go with landscape. Sooner or later you have to start a new line so to speak. This will allow Hasbro to release all sorts of buildings with seperate powers, a blacksmith shop, the main hall, the landscape will probably represent clouds or something. The Rainbow bridge, I can almost guarantee that sooner or later Hasbro is going to shift the focus slightly to insure that you keep buying. A release like this would be labelled as a new master set with all the expansions rolling out right behind. We really have everything now except a swamp, soon also I bet. I am already counting the castle. I feel it in my bones that some sort of cityscape is coming. Anybody wanna bet this is the Gencon sneak peek!!!!

Building a whole town might be too big of a cash commitment, even for a game like this.

[markwars]

So...next logical question:

For those (like me) that feel the system will be alive for quite a while, what do you think the next "big" innovation in the game will be?

We can play around with quirky little new powers in each wave and do just fine with that for a long time, but sooner or later a big innovation will be needed....Bonding was huge in wave one. Common heroes were big in wave two. Powers requiring markers were big in wave four.....what's next? New terrains and castles are steps in the right direction....but what other innovations could come along to really open up some possibilities?

I think that one very viable path to completely new types of game play and scenarios is ships. A new master set that came with a semi generic pirate ship or viking longboat would not only be visually cool it would also open up a new dimension in terms of water movements and powers. It would lend itself easily to expansion ships and boats and sea serpents and the like. Kraken anyone? I think that the best approach to continuing the game is to continue to open up new possibilities tied to the original master set, but moving away from it slightly. Setting up new battles just off shore is one way to do this.

[jcb231]

What about NEGATIVE abilites? Like auras that reduce the number of attack or defense dice figures roll?


What about reverse Deathwalkers? Figures with life of 9 or 10 and defense of 0 or 1?


What about figures that cannot attack? Attack zero but great support abilities?



What about figures with no special powers? Just straight up, point-costed brawlers?


What about figures that are strong against melee, but weak against range? The reverse of Drake?

[markwars]

No comment on ships?

[TheRealQ]

No comment on ships?

Ships add so much that it is hard to grasp. They would almost need to make an entirely new game or at least a new Master Set. Just think of all the water tiles you would need to properly use ships. At the same time if they made a set of ships they could throw in some larger water tiles to make a suitable body of water.

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

You will go into the Forgotten Forest and bring back...a shubbery!

With the release of the castle, how about a 50 x 50 hex maze with shrubs. Didn't royalty have mazes near the castle for entertainment purposes? Could make for some nice hand to hand fighting with the commons.

[TheRealQ]

You will go into the Forgotten Forest and bring back...a shubbery!

With the release of the castle, how about a 50 x 50 hex maze with shrubs. Didn't royalty have mazes near the castle for entertainment purposes? Could make for some nice hand to hand fighting with the commons.

Nee!

That is a great idea. It could be in pieces rather than a preset maze and fit on the edges similar to the ruins.

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

You will go into the Forgotten Forest and bring back...a shubbery!

With the release of the castle, how about a 50 x 50 hex maze with shrubs. Didn't royalty have mazes near the castle for entertainment purposes? Could make for some nice hand to hand fighting with the commons.

Nee!

That is a great idea. It could be in pieces rather than a preset maze and fit on the edges similar to the ruins.
But how to include the herring...?

[TheRealQ]

Actually, I like the idea of hedges so much I think I am going to custom some. All I have to do is modify the ruins...just need to buy a few more master sets. :) ...and for the herring you always send your knights on a quest.

[bobofett]

There will be a heroscape religon and everything. Instead of recess it will be called heroscapess. Everything you say will make some kind of reference to heroscape(like the smurfs). :headbang: :joke: :rofl:

[allskulls]

bobofett - that's "scaperific" :D

How about an official Hasbro website that supports its Heroscape fans?
Nah, probably asking too much.

[bobofett]

bobofett - that's "scaperific" :D

How about an official Hasbro website that supports its Heroscape fans?
Nah, probably asking too much.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: So true.

[champrjk]

I think it would be cool if HS came out with some seige figure sets and some more fortress refuge sets. That would keep me buying well into 2008.

[Jandars_Hope]

2008:
Waves 10, 11, 12
Large figure set
Large terrain set
Another set of exclusives.
3rd Master set - ''The Earth Strikes Back''
An 'Official' Heroscape Binder for storing those precious cards.
Heroscape magnets -one of each general! :lol:

Don't know - but i hope it continues for at least a few more years!

[philowar]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time.

I almost wish that someone like (gasp) Wizards of the Coast would buy Heroscape up so that we could see a game that was no longer being marketed to 8-14 year old boys as you say. I get really sick of that, and I think we'd be seeing expansion figures that were a lot cooler (admit it, some of them are a bit childish and/or lame) if Craig and crew were working for a real gaming company instead of a toy company that's focused on marketing to children. Just who does Hasbro think is buying up all these expansion sets anyway? They need to get a clue.

[champrjk]

funny that you should mention wizzard of the coast. I emailed hasbro a question a while ago conserning heroscape and they said that they could not help me out and that i should ask (of all people ) wizzards. It was rather weird.

[kenjib]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time.

I almost wish that someone like (gasp) Wizards of the Coast would buy Heroscape up so that we could see a game that was no longer being marketed to 8-14 year old boys as you say. I get really sick of that, and I think we'd be seeing expansion figures that were a lot cooler (admit it, some of them are a bit childish and/or lame) if Craig and crew were working for a real gaming company instead of a toy company that's focused on marketing to children. Just who does Hasbro think is buying up all these expansion sets anyway? They need to get a clue.

Wizards of the Coast gave D&D a facelift and made it all spiky, stretched out, and leather filled. They would probably do the same with Heroscape if tasked with giving it a facelift because that's what Magic the Gathering and Dreamblade both look like and that's what many of their artists seem to like to do. Heroscape has a more classic look that I prefer. If that's what "more adult" would mean, and I strongly suspect that it would, than I would prefer that they stick with what they've got going now myself. The WotC look is a faddish thing that will look rather dated in 5-10 years. The current Heroscape looks is not - well...with the exception of Sir Denricks hair perhaps...

[Grungebob]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time.

I almost wish that someone like (gasp) Wizards of the Coast would buy Heroscape up so that we could see a game that was no longer being marketed to 8-14 year old boys as you say. I get really sick of that, and I think we'd be seeing expansion figures that were a lot cooler (admit it, some of them are a bit childish and/or lame) if Craig and crew were working for a real gaming company instead of a toy company that's focused on marketing to children. Just who does Hasbro think is buying up all these expansion sets anyway? They need to get a clue.Just be happy Hasbro is behind Heroscape. It is the only company with enough clout to mass market a big box of plastic bits.. If it was a WOTC product it would consist of a few prepainted minis and a flimsy cardboard battlefield.

[truth]

I think that since they marketed HS to 8-14 yr old boys and it appears to have a fan following of men 20-50 it to be around a very long time.

I almost wish that someone like (gasp) Wizards of the Coast would buy Heroscape up so that we could see a game that was no longer being marketed to 8-14 year old boys as you say. I get really sick of that, and I think we'd be seeing expansion figures that were a lot cooler (admit it, some of them are a bit childish and/or lame) if Craig and crew were working for a real gaming company instead of a toy company that's focused on marketing to children. Just who does Hasbro think is buying up all these expansion sets anyway? They need to get a clue.Just be happy Hasbro is behind Heroscape. It is the only company with enough clout to mass market a big box of plastic bits.. If it was a WOTC product it would consist of a few prepainted minis and a flimsy cardboard battlefield.

...sold in a blind booster.

[philowar]

Wizards of the Coast gave D&D a facelift and made it all spiky, stretched out, and leather filled. They would probably do the same with Heroscape if tasked with giving it a facelift because that's what Magic the Gathering and Dreamblade both look like and that's what many of their artists seem to like to do.

You're right. One only needs to look at Dreamblade, AKA Hellraiser meets I don't know what -- that, and the "hip" fantasy art in their game manuals. Wizards' stuff may not be marketed towards 10 year olds, but it certainly has that slick, faddish teen aesthetic and that I'm glad Heroscape does not.

Don't get me wrong, I love the look of a lot of the HS figures, especially the historically-based ones (which look even better after a nice wash and some touch-ups), but it always bums me out when I see a goofball like Retarius (though the Crixus sculpt is great) or Spartacus or the Nikita Agents or yet more foofy elves.

I mean, instead of a big clunky, ugly guy like Finn, why can't HS vikings look like this:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/philowar/vikings.jpg


Alright, well I'm sure they wouldn't if HS was a Wizards game either. I'm just saying... I hope those Templars look really nice. Please, God, please, do whatever you want to the elves and robots and so on, but please please please make the historical fighting men look good.

And verily I admit, as Grungebob says, if it wasn't for Hasbro's deep pockets we probably wouldn't be seeing plastic hexes but a cardboard map. And I'm sure the figures wouldn't be pre-painted either. Just look at Battlelore.

[Will T]

funny that you should mention wizzard of the coast. I emailed hasbro a question a while ago conserning heroscape and they said that they could not help me out and that i should ask (of all people ) wizzards. It was rather weird.

Champ - Since you apparently do not know, Hasbro hired Wizards of the Coast to provide the techinical support for Heroscape. They have been doing it for a few months now.

[Miniature Geek]

I found this thread interesting. Seeing as it's 2008 and the company is still going and has switched hands with new things in the pipe.

[Jexik]

I agree. Thanks for the bump, MG!

It's creepy how right some people were.

[NecroBlade]

I love :gb: and :truth: 's doom and gloom predictions about WotC just a few posts above! :rofl:

[guido]

I found this thread interesting. Seeing as it's 2008 and the company is still going and has switched hands with new things in the pipe.

Good choice of thread resurrection.

[1Mmirg]

I love :gb: and :truth: 's doom and gloom predictions about WotC just a few posts above! :rofl:

...sold in a blind booster

Yeah, Truth, haven't you heard: "There will be no blind boosters" :D <the sarcasm drips thickly>

Seriously, though, if HS hadn't started with Hasbro and done as well as it has, well...

[Revdyer]

Interesting, and somewhat embarrassing, to read that. We will be getting desert. We won't, yet, be getting boats (take that, markwars!). WotC are the folks who will carry the torch. Skyknight and I are not only friends, but GenCon roommates. The game lives and is still the destination. And, lest we forget, this is still the primo site for HeroScape and the model for any game site in the world.

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

[guido]

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

That means that the recruiters are doing their job!

[Revdyer]

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

That means that the recruiters are doing their job!

You are absolutely right, guido. Now, if only the educators will get to work!

Like the monasteries of the 10th century in Europe, this can be the small, enclosed site that will save culture for the future.

[guido]

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

That means that the recruiters are doing their job!

You are absolutely right, guido. Now, if only the educators will get to work!

Like the monasteries of the 10th century in Europe, this can be the small, enclosed site that will save culture for the future.

Or in the case of Imax, like the Spanish Inquisition, ruthlessly torturing and destroying all the ignorant masses.

[Revdyer]

Or in the case of Imax, like the Spanish Inquisition, ruthlessly torturing and destroying all the ignorant masses.

Now, now; Imax is a good friend of mine and all he wants is sweetness and light and flowers and the screaming blood of stupid idiots and dying dumbasses.

[Granite-M]

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

That means that the recruiters are doing their job!

You are absolutely right, guido. Now, if only the educators will get to work!

Like the monasteries of the 10th century in Europe, this can be the small, enclosed site that will save culture for the future.

Or in the case of Imax, like the Spanish Inquisition, ruthlessly torturing and destroying all the ignorant masses.

NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

[guido]

(I did notice the spelling and grammar were at a higher level a couple of years ago than they are today around here.)

That means that the recruiters are doing their job!

You are absolutely right, guido. Now, if only the educators will get to work!

Like the monasteries of the 10th century in Europe, this can be the small, enclosed site that will save culture for the future.

Or in the case of Imax, like the Spanish Inquisition, ruthlessly torturing and destroying all the ignorant masses.

NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
http://pandagon.blogsome.com/images/spanishinq0go.jpg

Fixed!

[nyys]

Interesting read. Kudos to those who either mentioned Hasbro selling/handing off to a company that would market to the gaming community or specifically bring in WotC to run things.

The funny thing I find about the posts that are doom and gloomish are that some need to realize that as long as the game is still making a buck, no matter how good, bad, insane, silly, or <insert adjective> the game becomes they will continue to sell it.

If/when it ever goes red, that is when we'll say adieu.

[Revdyer]

If/when it ever goes red, that is when we'll say adieu.

Obviously, and exactly, right. The trouble is that we, the gaming public, will never know that information until eighteen months or so after it is true.

[1Mmirg]

Or in the case of Imax, like the Spanish Inquisition, ruthlessly torturing and destroying all the ignorant masses.

Now, now; Imax is a good friend of mine and all he wants is sweetness and light and flowers and the screaming blood of stupid idiots and dying dumbasses.

We can all hope... :D

[This was an enlightening read/glance to the past; thanks again for bumping it, Miniature Geek]

[wotcpbarclay]

I found this thread interesting. Seeing as it's 2008 and the company is still going and has switched hands with new things in the pipe.

Interesting reading indeed.

[Bach]

This is like back to the future...

[Einar's puppy]

yeah...Wotc now officially own heroscape don't it?Well I am optomistic *ha optomism,does that exsits nowa days?* I like the terrain set as an Idea. obvously I want better then a repaint but it is good.

[hextr1p]

*ha optomism,does that exsits nowa days?*
No.

But 'optimism' does.

;)

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[guido]

I found this thread interesting. Seeing as it's 2008 and the company is still going and has switched hands with new things in the pipe.

Interesting reading indeed.

Hey, you posted outside the box! Cool!

[NecroBlade]

I found this thread interesting. Seeing as it's 2008 and the company is still going and has switched hands with new things in the pipe.

Interesting reading indeed.

Hey, you posted outside the box! Cool!No one tell his superiors, they won't let him come back! :excited:

[jbbnbsmith]

I don't mean to sound like a party pooper, but I don't know how much more new stuff I'll actually buy. I've certainly done my fair share to keep Hasbro in the black, but I'm reaching a saturation point where I have more units than I'll ever need. There are some figs I've never even used yet in a game! I will probably pick up a few castle sets but that may be it for me in terms of purchasing. I'll keep playing, and maybe selectively buy some new units from time to time, but I think my days of buying four sets of every expansion are drawing to a close. I may be changing my tune in a month or so when details about wave 5 hit, but I wasn't all that thrilled when I saw "the shelf".


Yes, my days of buying four sets of everything are indeed drawing to a close....eventually. But in the time since my original post I've purchased four sets of wave 5, four of wave 6 (plus 7 sets of zombies), and three of wave 7 (only because that's all I've been able to find), not to mention three castle sets, one Marvelscape, and four SotM.

[nyys]

If/when it ever goes red, that is when we'll say adieu.

Obviously, and exactly, right. The trouble is that we, the gaming public, will never know that information until eighteen months or so after it is true.

Yep and that's a big reason why speculation is usually fruitless.

[IAmBatman]

yeah...Wotc now officially own heroscape don't it?Well I am optomistic *ha optomism,does that exsits nowa days?* I like the terrain set as an Idea. obvously I want better then a repaint but it is good.

What was Rev saying about grammar, readability, that kind of thing? :wink:

[Revdyer]

yeah...Wotc now officially own heroscape don't it?Well I am optomistic *ha optomism,does that exsits nowa days?* I like the terrain set as an Idea. obvously I want better then a repaint but it is good.

What was Rev saying about grammar, readability, that kind of thing? :wink:

I was lamenting the lost golden articulate past, something old men are wont to sit around and do. <grin>

[Granite-M]

yeah...Wotc now officially own heroscape don't it?Well I am optomistic *ha optomism,does that exsits nowa days?* I like the terrain set as an Idea. obvously I want better then a repaint but it is good.

What was Rev saying about grammar, readability, that kind of thing? :wink:

I was lamenting the lost golden articulate past, something old men are wont to sit around and do. <grin>

Don't know if 24 counts as old yet, but I'll join you at the wake for grammar and all that good stuff like punctuation.

Poor guys... they never knew what hit 'em. I thought the Internet was bad enough, but then text messaging came along and... ::sniff:: ...I'm sorry, I need a minute!

[Revdyer]

Don't know if 24 counts as old yet, but I'll join you at the wake for grammar and all that good stuff like punctuation.

I don't know, Granite-M. It all depends on what the 24 is. If years, then, no, you're not old yet. If wives, then, dang! dude! you've got to be worn out. If cars, well, that's about right.

[jcb231]

So it's been roughly 18 months since the original post in September of 2006, and we've seen Flagbearers, Wave Six, Wave Seven, Marvel, Master Woo, and Swarm of the Marro...and all of that was within 12 months of the post, as we've also seen a ginormous delay of no releases from August of 2007 to present.

Where will Heroscape be in 2008? So far it's in the same spot it's been since 2007...let's hope that changes soon!

[Kroc]

Yes, my days of buying four sets of everything are indeed drawing to a close....three of wave 7 (only because that's all I've been able to find)

Your in luck! Housemouse just announced they are taking pre-orders for wave 7. But you know, since 2006 you have increased your collection more than my entire collection. You're going to stop buying? Yea, I'll believe it when I see it.

PS I love seeing these old gloom-and-doom posts. It just warms the heart so...

[Kroc]

Like the monasteries of the 10th century in Europe, this can be the small, enclosed site that will save culture for the future.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kroc]

i'll bet my first born there will be an official Star Wars expansion set for HS by 2008. *sigh*

I can't believe you all missed this, we now have rights to GaryLASQ's firstborn! So what are we going to do? Auction the little tike off? Make him edit posts on this site for grammatical content? Only let him play with HS figures?

Personally I've got my hands full with my own, but come on folks! First born for the taking!!!!!!

[southwest ninja]

got enough youngins running around. dont need another.

[ewabbie]

On the Moon.

Wern't we all suppose to be living on the moon in 1999?


It's 1999 and a base has been built on the Moon. Moonbase Alpha safeguards the nuclear waste shipped from Earth and carries out research. Moonbase Alpha is staffed with 311 crew members. On September 13, 1999, disaster strikes. The nuclear waste explodes, in a chain reaction, and the Moon is hurled out of Earth's orbit, into deep space. Thus begins the adventures of Space:1999. ....

[Miniature Geek]

Just a thought, but why don't we change this thread title to 2010, make new predictions, and in 2 years reopen it?

I had forgotten which part of the board I found this in, so I was amazed when I saw that people had posted to it. And to think I had the power of theadomancy all this time. :twisted:

On a serious note, thanks to all who thanked me, and to those who weren't upset that I bumped a 2 year old thread.

[Revdyer]

It was a great bump, Miniature Geek.

[Aldin]

Excellent bump indeed. I particularly found these comments to be well founded:

I expect Hasbro will capitalize on this at some point and make other variations of a Master Set. (perhaps StarWars, Marvel, or something along the lines of WH40K) In addition they could always add new generals, new rule sets, or even a different Valhallla Master Set.

I think that in terms of new terrain, there might not be a lot of possibilities left. Sure, desserts or jungle would make some people happy, but it´s not very appropriate for the Valhallan setting! […] and how about making the Kyrie generals, Jandar, Utgar et al, as minis to lead their armies...?

As for new terrain types, I think Swamp is a logical choice, but new types of trees are a front runner too. I'd love to see something other than pines! Quicksand and other types of hazards are a good fun option as well. Maybe large rocks? Marro Hives? Grut Forts? etc etc....

I can almost guarantee that sooner or later Hasbro is going to shift the focus slightly to insure that you keep buying. A release like this would be labelled as a new master set with all the expansions rolling out right behind. We really have everything now except a swamp, soon also I bet.

I almost wish that someone like (gasp) Wizards of the Coast would buy Heroscape up

Great stuff :up:

~Aldin, just clipping along